The only poll of Malcolm Turnbull’s second week is the regular two-week rolling average from Essential Research. Clearly this week’s sample produced a good result for the Coalition, as Essential published its “one week only” result last week to show a 50-50 debut for the Turnbull government, and adding this week’s result to that one has produced a Coalition lead of 52-48. On the primary vote, the Coalition is up a point to 44%, Labor is down two to 35%, and the Greens are steady on 11%. Further findings:
• Sixty-three per cent want the election held next year, whereas 21% think the government should go early.
• Forty-one per cent say Tony Abbott should resign from parliament (although it’s not specified if this means right now or at the end of the term), 25% would prefer that he stay on the back bench, and only 16% believe he should be given a ministry.
• Twenty-six per cent rate the state of the economy as good versus 32% for poor, and 34% think it heading in the right direction versus 39% for the wrong direction – both of which are much as they were when these questions were last posed in March.
• Since July 2013, respondents have become somewhat more likely to think people on high incomes would be better off under a Liberal government, and much more likely to think people who send their children to private school would. Conversely, small business, farmers, average working people, pensioners, single parents and the unemployed are now perceived as much better off under Labor. The rating for middle-income earners was 5% in favour of the Liberals two years ago, but is now 6% in favour of Labor.
Further on the polling front, The Australian has today published its first geographic and demographic breakdowns since the takeover of Newspoll by Galaxy, of purely historical interest though the results may be, given that they are compiled from the entire polling period between July and September.
Everyone is relieved Tone has gone.
Apart from Andrew, Alan, Ray and Tony.
William or Kevin Bonham
So, should we expect further polls to be around 51-49 to the Coalition for the next few weeks (barring any unexpected events) or will the polling get better for the Turnbull Government?
Shorter Question:
Will the Turnbull Government further in the polls or is this the peak of the bounce?
It probably depends on what the Turnbull government does from here. So far they are showing sign of moving in the right direction.
[It probably depends on what the Turnbull government does from here. So far they are showing sign of moving in the right direction.]
Which is to the left 🙂
From previous thread:
davidwh@2388 on BludgerTrack: 51.5-48.5 to Coalition | The Poll Bludger
Can you explain what being “a conservative when it comes to things economic” means?
Does it mean you adhere to outdated and discredited pre-Keynesian economic theories?
Everybody is totally relieved to have someone who looks and acts like a Prime Minister (and is still a virgin in the job).
[ I’m a bit messed up]
Don’t think so, Davidwh. You seem pretty well together to me.
Enjoy the sunshine. We’re all enjoying Abbott gone even tho it’s going to be damn hard work for Labor to get the swingers to disengage from Turnbull for some time.
It’s fascinating to watch Abbott and Campbell Newman rebuilding their ‘image’. Right little pair in Govt they were.
Showing signs? Oh is that all?
If he moves far enough to the left on various policies I’ll vote for him myself. The big question is how far will he go. I hope he realises he’s got the right wing nut jobs by the short and curlies and ignores them.
bemused old comrade no I don’t have a problem with change but just believe in as little government intervention in the economy as possible. I’d be a lousy socialist.
GARY – One more year of this mob (with or without Turnbull) and there won’t be much of Medicare left. Make sure you don’t get ill.
BH it is pelting down rain and I think hail at present here.
Tones – They snuck up behind me while I wasn’t looking.
Shows how disfunctional his office and Whips were.
Hugh White with a withering set of observations on Admiral Abbott’s Army.
Defence White Paper? Bin it.
[Marise Payne is as well qualified for the job of defence minister as any who have taken it on for a very long time, and far better qualified than either of her most recent predecessors. Her appointment has sent the clearest possible signal that Malcolm Turnbull intends his government to fix the mess in defence created by previous governments over many years, by doing things differently.
That is not because of her gender, but because she is an unusually intelligent, articulate, practical no-nonsense person with a real interest in good policy, a healthy scepticism about received wisdom, and a degree of intellectual and political courage and toughness. These are all important qualities in a defence minister, and they have been sadly missed of late.
]
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Kevin Bonham@2380
Thanks KB. I was thinking along the lines of the two week averages too.
[GARY – One more year of this mob (with or without Turnbull) and there won’t be much of Medicare left. Make sure you don’t get ill.]
If he alters Medicare there is no way in hell I will vote for him.
Julie Bishop must be quite fond of her boyfriend
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/why-was-julie-bishops-boyfriend-on-the-floor-of-the-united-nations-asks-labor-20150929-gjx6wa.html
Tones – They snuck up behind me while I wasn’t looking.
Rubbish he knew they were there …. just waiting, but Tony spent so much time talking to idiots like Jones & Hadley believing he was as infallible as the Pope or Pell.
We have never had as big an idiot as PM as Tony , Malcolm has already done the country one great service, huge accomplishment.
Couldn’t vote Liberal if Malware cured cancer and poverty.
I think there may be some closet Malcolm supporters here 🙂
[ I don’t have a problem with change but just believe in as little government intervention in the economy as possible. I’d be a lousy socialist.]
You sound like me, but I’ve come to see that the most profitable parts of the economy are those full of rapacious rent-seekers and ticket-clippers. Judging by their actions, they deserve govt regulation.
So in my case, my initial leaning to “as little as possible” intervention over time has turned into “quite a lot”!
sprocket_
“At the time, Ms Bishop questioned how Mrs Carr’s attendance on overseas trips could advance Australia’s interests.
“It is not common practice for a foreign minister or a secretary of state to travel with a spouse for the business part of a visit,” Ms Bishop said in 2012.”
But that was then & this is now!
davidwh@12
I really think you need to read this book:
Governomics – Can we afford small government?
https://www.mup.com.au/items/155678
[What did the public sector ever do for us?
People have good reason to demand decent public education and a well-funded health system, to yearn for an economy that doesn’t trash the environment or for a smaller gap between rich and poor. Almost without exception, sound economics is on their side.
We’ve grown used to public debates that pit people and the planet against an abstract, distorted image of ‘the economy’, but it doesn’t have to be this way. Governomics shows that an emaciated state is bad for business, and that standing up for government means standing up for a public sector that truly serves the public.]
ALL Bishops use discretion when chartering helicopters and anointing VIP loved ones to critical World affair events.
“It is not common practice for a foreign minister or a secretary of state to travel with a spouse for the business part of a visit,” Ms Bishop said in 2012.
“I guess what’s quite concerning is it is against the government’s own ministerial guidelines.”
“They specifically state as a general rule a minister should not be accompanied by their spouse on official overseas travel and they can only do it with the prime minister’s approval,” Ms Bishop said.
A Liberal hypocrite?? NEVER!
Kon Karapanagiotidis @Kon__K 2m2 minutes ago
A #refugee woman our Gov sent to #Nauru has been raped & fallen pregnant as a result. Our gov plans to leave her there.
Let that sink in.
No change in salesman.
ABC Local @abclocal 3m3 minutes ago
Cyanide ponds from abandoned mine could spill into Murray-Darling Basin. Farmers fear ‘catastrophe’ http://ab.co/1YLlKy3
bemused I do believe there are services that governments should provide, or lead, that are essential in a fair society and include education, health, aged-care etc. It’s all about finding the right balance between allowing people to make decisions for themselves and at the same time ensuring government provides adequate social programmes.
Australia over a long time, under different political governments, has done this pretty well.
Market’s continue to go put put, no confidence in ’21st Century goverment’ yet.
davidwh@30
Name the improvements made in those fields by non-Labor Governements?
My list appears below.
end of list.
New ’21st Century Goverment’ is already spying on us:
Hytech Systems @HytechSystems 15m15 minutes ago
Hytech Systems Retweeted Allie Coyne
Prelude for #hfc? Deep packet inspection utilized in the US to control congested nodes on #hfc networks #nbn
zoidlord@33
Earth to planet zoid…
Please read content of report before ranting about it.
Murdoch’s Oz this afternoon
[‘Support Turnbull with gritted teeth’
Tony Abbott with Ray Hadley.
JARED OWENS
Tony Abbott urges the public to support the Coalition at the next election, even if they do it “through gritted teeth”.
‘Rock solid behind renewables’
2:24PM JARED OWENS
Greg Hunt insists the Turnbull government is totally supportive of renewable technologies including wind turbines.
‘Honour Abbott: talk up legacy’
ROSIE LEWIS
The former PM ranks in the ‘pantheon of great Liberal leaders’ and must be honoured, says a key crossbench senator.]
[ROSIE LEWIS
The former PM ranks in the ‘pantheon of great Liberal leaders’ and must be honoured, says a key crossbench senator.]
Delusion abounds.
I came across a two part British Doco recently on this subject and was very surprised to learn the British Government had in fact paid compensation in relation to freed slaves.
Only thing payment wasn’t to the slaves it was to the slave owners – the biggest ever British Government compensation payment ever – 17 Billion Pounds in current money so double that amount in AUD.
The surprising thing revealed though was the extent of slave ownership throughout Britain – from widows and clergy who a few or a dozen slaves working in places like Jamaica right up to families who had thousands and who received compensation amounting in some case of hundreds of millions of pounds in todays money.
[ Jamaica calls for Britain to pay billions of pounds in reparations for slavery
Downing Street says David Cameron does not believe compensation is the right approach ahead of his first official visit to Jamaica ]
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/29/jamaica-calls-britain-pay-billions-pounds-reparations-slavery
bemused #32 not sure how I go about answering that without getting into a drawn-out argument. I’m happy for you to claim all social programs were introduced by Labor governments if that helps.
However my point was that, regardless of which political party you want to give credit for implementing social programs in our history, social programs have been maintained under governments of all political persuasions and by world standards those programs have been good programs which have served us well.
bemused@32
To be fair, I don’t think davidwh was being partisan here. He was just airing his view that there needs to be a balance to where government is involved in.
@bemused/34
No thanks, and No thanks.
Using the scape goat “read the report” I exactly know what Deep packet is used for both spying and congestion.
If the Deep Packet was used for Congestion, then the big part of Failed Fraudband was spent most of Turnbull’s time promoting HFC!
Downing Street says David Cameron does not believe compensation is the right approach ahead of his first official visit to Jamaic
That would be right.. a Capitaist not wanting to pay for what they stole.
davidwh@38
The best approach to answering questions is honestly.
The maintenance you refer to has been grudging at best and often short-lived as with the original Medibank.
Our status as a world leader in social programs has been slipping.
Raaraa@39
And I responded in an entirely fair manner. How dare you suggest otherwise.
A bit more on Julie. But at least her ‘partner’ paid his own fare.
[A source familiar with UN gatherings told Fairfax Media the minister’s decision to include her partner and non-diplomatic staff at the official Australian section was highly unusual as it is traditionally an area for government and DFAT staffers only.
They also questioned the general practice of allowing personal guests to attend sessions, saying it could potentially lead to seats being granted to political donors
They pointed out that when former Labor foreign minister Bob Carr visited the UN for Australia’s successful bid to sit on the UN Security Council, his wife Helena was seated in the public gallery.]
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[The former PM ranks in the ‘pantheon of great Liberal leaders’ and must be honoured, says a key crossbench senator.]
Any guesses as to who said it?
lizzie@45
If it was any Senator I would say Cory Bernardi, but cross-bench rules him out.
OK, so which one was dumb enough?
lizzie
[Any guesses as to who said it?]
leyonheljym ?
My guess is Bob Day.
[Royal Dutch Shell has ended its expensive and fruitless nine-year effort to explore for oil in the Alaskan Arctic in another sign that the entire industry is trimming its ambitions in the wake of collapsing oil prices.
Monday’s decision came after one well drilled by Shell this summer came up mostly dry, and environmental groups declared a major victory. But at a time when global markets are glutted with oil, it also confirmed the major oil companies’ increasing willingness to turn their backs on the most expensive new drilling prospects in the Gulf of Mexico and suspend plans for new projects in Canada’s oil sands. Shell spent more than $US7 billion on its Alaska venture.
The industry has cut its investments by 20 per cent this year and laid off at least 200,000 workers worldwide, roughly 5 per cent of the total workforce. At the same time, companies have retreated from less profitable fields in places like the North Sea, West Africa, and some shale prospects in Louisiana and North Dakota.]
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The shorter Hugh White: Marise listens to me, or will after I smother her in kisses.