The fortnightly Newspoll in The Australian brings the government little respite, Labor’s lead down from the 55-45 blowout last time to 54-46, from primary votes of 37% for the Coalition (up one), 37% for Labor (down two) and 13% for the Greens (up two). Tony Abbott’s personal ratings continue to deteriorate, with approval down three to 33% and disapproval up two to 57%, while Bill Shorten’s remain broadly stable as they have for so long, with approval unchanged at 39% and disapproval up two to 43%. Shorten’s lead as preferred prime minister widens just slightly from 43-37 to 43-36.
Also out today was the regular fortnightly face-to-face plus SMS poll from Morgan. This has the Coalition up a point to 39%, Labor down one to 37.5%, the Greens steady on 12%, and Palmer United down half a point to another new low of 2%. Two-party preferred moves two points in the Coalition’s favour on the respondent-allocated measure, from 55.5-44.5 to 53.5-46.5, and previous-election preferences moves one point from 54-46 to 53-47.
UPDATE (Essential Research): The latest fortnightly rolling average from Essential Research ticks a point in Labor’s favour, from 52-48 to 53-47, with the major parties tied at 40% on the primary vote (Labor up a point, the Coalition steady), the Greens down one to 9% and Palmer United steady on 3%. Further questions:
Opinion on the balance of power in the Senate is found to be unchanged since July in being slightly favourable, with 37% reckoning it good for democracy, 29% bad and 18% indifferent. When asked if the Senate has been right to block or reject various items of legislation, yes outpolls no in every case.
A little surprisingly (to me at least), 42% think the 1.5% pay increase for defence personnel fair, versus 47% for unfair.
Fifty-six per cent disagree with the Prime Minister’s contention that his government has fundamentally kept faith with the Australian people with respect to election promises, with 31% in agreement. Opinion is inevitably divided along party lines, but Greens voters are found to be even more negative than Labor ones, albeit that the sample for the latter is extremely small.
As Essential does from time to time, respondents were asked for their view on various attributes with respect to the two leaders. The last time this was done was at the height of the Coalition’s post-budget poll collapse, and the latest survey finds Tony Abbott’s position very slightly improved, most noticeably with respect to hard-working (up five to 62%) and good in a crisis (up seven to 42%), the latter being an interesting bit of residue from his now vanishing poll recovery on the back of MH17 and terrorism concerns. However, he has dropped a further four points on visionary, to 27%. Reflecting his long-standing poll stasis, Bill Shorten’s readings are little changed, although he is down five on a capable leader to 46%.
The Government made a huge fuss about the previous Government allegedly not having a proper process for large projects, e.g. the NBN, Australia Network. So Conroy’s amendment to have a competitive tender for the Submarine project exposes the Coalition’s hypocrisy if they don’t accept it. And yes, it’s a stunt, but a good one.
The $60,000 Abbott saved on his daughter’s tertiary education would buy him several long summer family holidays.
Unfortunately many other families will be unable to enjoy a holiday of this sort if Abbott’s higher university fees ever get through the Senate.
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I just don’t understand how after a full year in power, with debt ballooning & spending going up the govt can blame Labor for it. Move on… ]
PvO should know, with one tune tony there is one major rule –
*Its always someone else fault – never him*
Yesterday’s presser was just theatre. Ignore what they say, look at what they do.
lizzie
[
Abandoning support for manufacturing might be excusable if the Coalition were encouraging research and alternative energy projects]
I heard a feature on RN yesterday and in Denmark they have an employment guarantee. Lose you job and you get training and re-skilling if required. An example came up where a large shipyard was having to close down. The government helped set up a renewable energy center and the required retraining. It is now a leading place for wind/solar power research and production.
Stefanovic really gave it to Abbott this morning.
Gareth
Goodness if karl, who is Abbott’s friend, was not kind to him, he is really on the nose!
Re Poroti @99: Permanent Floating Crap Game
A good description of the Abbott Government, although hopefully not permanent but ending in two years.
poroti
According to the IPA gurus and Abbott, unemployment opens up future possibilities for you, stimulates your efforts. But govt doesn’t hold out a hand to help.
I hear that DAndrews is reopening the education centre in Lilydale that Napthine closed down. :claps hands:
[“Look at the way we have handled the foreign policy issues like MH17, MH370. Look at the way we have handled the foreign fighters threat, the ISIL death cult threat,” he said.]
Just don’t look at domestic issues…
UK Politics –
[Poll: Tories still more trusted than Labour on the economy ]
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/poll-tories-still-more-trusted-than-labour-on-the-economy-9896534.html
[Just don’t look at domestic issues…]
And don’t look too hard at these foreign issues either.
Nice spot at Cheviot Beach for the Abbott holiday
Cartoon by David Rowe – what’s in his binsses? (Gollum voice)
I think it is a surgical mask with “Infectious” printed on it with the biological hazard symbol above it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_hazard
Not sure whether this is referring to Ebola or just “Toxic Tony”
Rowe cartoon
http://www.afr.com/p/national/cartoon_gallery_david_rowe_1g8WHy9urgOIQrWQ0IrkdO
@mpbowers: Shorten ” this is the final caucus meeting 4 the year & you may feel somewhat tired imagine how T. Abbott’s feeling?” http://t.co/2rNrLb6b1p
@abcnews: Update: @JacquiLambie and @Nick_Xenophon now definite No votes on Government’s higher #education bills http://t.co/w8IYf5ea2d #auspol
Stone was jettisoned by Abbott.
Nicholas Stuart, who has been assiduously following the Subs Saga and who has close links to defence industry, the ADF and the ministry, has a scathing article in today’s CT in which he describes the Abbott Cabinet as ‘a small, bizarre group of repressed men’.
Re Guytar @115: Labor + Green + X + Lambie = 37 “No” votes for higher education “reforms”. Need one more.
Cheviot Beach
Well, the Abbotts are unlikely to meet any nasty Labor lowlife there, but that’s the spot where Harold Holt disappeared.
Will that be Tony’s final reboot?
Here’s hoping Lambie sticks to her guns & Abbott doesn’t make a deal.
BTW, I seem to recall he promised not to make deals…..
In any case, Abbott HAS taken holidays. I remember one to the ski fields of France to be with his daughter. That was WELL inside 5 years ago.
Steve777
Palmer said yesterday no to current bill. Wiggle room yes. However makes more likely a PUP no vote. Muir is the 64 000 question but on past voting record I think its not looking at all good for Abbott.
Could explain Abbott going with blackmail and feral Labor rhetoric.
This is worth reading for a comparison and a laugh.
“Out of his depth: the PM who believed his own publicity”
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/08/24/1061663679090.html
The item in the bin shows the letters vic ection = ? vic election and hence why it is in the bin. The shadow could therefore be a metaphor for the Vic electorate??
Report in the CT that around 50,000 soldiers in the Iraqi Army did not exist.
They were ‘ghost soldiers’.
Someone has pocketed a lot of pay.
Is it nice to know that Australians are now paying for this monstrous corruption by way of ADF forces fighting in Iraq?
William
There is a reference to yourself and, implicitly, Bludger Track in today’s CT. First Page of Times 2.
Nicholas Stuart article from Canberra Times
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/david-johnston-is-wrong-asc-could-build-a-canoe-but-please-note-terms-and-conditions-20141201-11xnsv.html
A full triple 😀 for this from Abbott during his morning TV appearances. Poor diddums . Not so much fun when the boot is on the other foot is it Tony ?.
[used his TV appearance to lament the lack of support from Bill Shorten’s Labor opposition.]
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-declares-labor-feral-during-morning-tv-blitz-20141201-11y2sl.html
This link http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/tax-the-rich-not-the-poor-corporate-advisers-tell-tony-abbott-20141201-11xo8q.html
As posted by BK is worth reading, a business lobby group is advising the government that any change to the tax system must include higher taxes on the wealthy and/or removing concessions.
Very interesting.
My reading of the polling figures is that the LNP primary is soft not yet ready to back the ALP.
In time the ALP need to address this, no need yet to provide any distraction to the Libs control-alt-delete
[Will that be Tony’s final reboot]
One can only dream, still its even more fun with him in charge at the moment.
A clever tweet I saw yesterday was that you can reboot a commodore 64 its still a commodore 64. Out of date and ability to deal with today’s world.
ltep@81
No problem. It looks confusing when quoting puts answers in italics.
As a side note. No change to RET this year.
I just had an interesting conversation on the phone with NBNco.
First the background.
We went away in mid-late July and when we returned home there was a bloody great pole stuck on the horizon across the river.
NBN had arrived!
So we waited for a while, talked to the locals, looked up our address on the net and we are at step 2 of 3 steps.
The last step is contact a provider.
So who are our providers and when will we be able to access their services taking into account the infrastructure was well under way in early August?
Estimated waiting time is ..6 to 12 months.
Pissweak.
JR – I’ve always had the view (prejudice) that once Tony loses a vote, it doesn’t come back. Now the electorate is waiting with baseball bats. I would say the steady march of the polls against this govt, with an extraordinary lack of volatility, seems to support this.
Liked this from Leyonhjelm
Liberal Democratic Party senator David Leyonhjelm has told Sky News the government needs to do a better job of cultivating a relationship with the cross bench.
“They’re like teenage kids,” Senator Leyonhjelm said of the government. “They only want you when they want some money or to borrow the car.”
Reminds me of Russell Savage, former policeman who won seat of Mildura as an independent in 1996 – Kennett and his cronies made life really hard for him (because he had the gall to “steal” a safe Coalituon seat). Three years later the chickens came home to roost when two more independents were elected and they all sided with Bracks and Labor and turfed Kenntt out of office.
I really do feel for independents/cross benchers in the h=House and Senate – it is a very hard workload without a major organisation and staff behind you. The “sneering resentment” from Abbott and his cronies cannot alter the fact that all these people have just as much right to sit in Parliament as they do. Ignore that at your peril.
Kinkajou @112
[Nice spot at Cheviot Beach for the Abbott holiday]
Love it!
Fact check from last September: will Australian universities ‘slide into mediocrity’ without reform?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-21/christopher-pyne-universities-claim-far-fetched/5703522
They find the claim “far fetched”. Unfortunately the ABC fact checking department don’t use the ‘pants on fire’ rating.
Love Abbott’s remark to Stefanovic that nobody said acchieving a surplus would be easy, and yet, according to him, budget surpluses were in their DNA:
http://www.nationals.org.au/Budget2013/TonyAbbott%E2%80%99sAddressinReply.aspx
Maybe he really is a nobody … 😉
Do you think Tone could do a deal with Lambie on defense pay, for her vote on Tertiary fees ?
bw 126 – thanks I thus found this good article about the submarines
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/david-johnston-is-wrong-asc-could-build-a-canoe-but-please-note-terms-and-conditions-20141201-11xnsv.html
😀
[Tony Abbott will not be needed during the Queensland election campaign, Premier Campbell Newman said.
All he needs is his “strong” LNP team.
Speaking to the ABC on Monday afternoon, Mr Newman said he didn’t “need anyone else to stand by my side other than members of my team, because we have a very strong team”.
The “Abbott effect” is largely being blamed for the Liberals’ election loss in Victoria last weekend, which relegated them to a one-term government.]
http://www.theage.com.au/queensland/tony-abbott-not-needed-for-queensland-lnp-election-campaign-campbell-newman-20141201-11y883.html
jr 140 – I have a feeling “the lady’s not for turning”
Tony Abbott is turning into the guy in the next seat who doesn’t use deodorant.
lizzie 142 – we will need to keep count of the number of LNP members who willingly submit to the Tony Abbott “death hug”
http://media.theage.com.au/news/national-news/awkward-hug-abbott-and-napthine-5938492.html
Two of my biggest smiles this morning is when I heard reported that Abbott has described the Opposition (wtte) that they had gone ‘feral’.
The second was to bemoan that fact that the government was doing really well in the Foreign Affairs area – where parliament (wtte) did not interfere!
Talk about pigeons coming home to roost.
Finally, the ABC, in its efforts to be even handed has not, this morning, in the 6 am news in Perth, or Early AM, made recognition of the overnight Newspoll. It is still absent from on-line last time I looked as well.
Same poll was mentioned several times on Fairfax radio news in Perth.
Doing well at foreign affairs?
We’ve pissed off the EU, the US, the Indonesians, the Chinese, the Russians and the Nauruans; we are at war with half the islamic world, and we have rolled over in one FTA after another to the cost of Australian workers and the Australian environment.
The reboot is on the other foot.
Fran the Victorian Liberals achieved a budget surplus of $2 billion by –
cutting TAFE funding by 80%
fighting with ambos
firing 400 environmental scientists in DSE
cutting CFA funding by 20%
cancelling domestic violence prevention programs
starving state schools of funds
cutting hospital funding by 20% -not sure about this figure
They found time to waste money by letting the chosen 4 families graze their cattle in the Alpine National Park
and give those same families leasehold in National Parks to build hotels, because not everyone wants to camp.
Tricot
[Two of my biggest smiles this morning is when I heard reported that Abbott has described the Opposition (wtte) that they had gone ‘feral’.]
What is Abbott’s IQ? He is great at summing up the characteristics of others but apparently never looks in the mirror at himself.