GhostWhoVotes tweets that the Abbott government’s second Newspoll result has the Coalition leading Labor 53-47, down from 56-44 a fortnight ago. The Coalition is down two points on the primary vote to 45%, with Labor up one to 32% and the Greens up two to 12%. Newspoll thereby returns to the pack after its previous result, which was unique out of the 15 polls published since the election in showing a significant rise in support for the Coalition. Tony Abbott’s personal ratings are still much better than any he enjoyed as Opposition Leader, although he is down two on approval to 45% and up four on disapproval to 38%. Bill Shorten has made a handy five-point gain on approval to 37%, with disapproval steady at 24%. Preferred prime minister changes only slightly, Abbott’s lead of 47-28 a fortnight ago narrowing to 46-30.
Stay tuned for the weekly Essential Research, which should be out later today.
UPDATE: Essential Research remains at 53-47, with both Coalition and Labor down a point on the primary vote, to 44% and 35% respectively, and the Greens up one to 9%. Monthly personal ratings find Tony Abbott’s disapproval on the upswing after a post-election improvement, up five points to 40%, while his approval is down one to 45% off his personal best result of a month ago. Bill Shorten’s debut ratings are 31% approval and 27% disapproval, and he trails Abbott as preferred prime minister 42-27. The poll also throws in personal ratings for Joe Hockey as Treasurer, in what looks like it might become a regular series, and it shows him viewed very favourably with 45% approval and 28% disapproval.
Further questions find 48% approving Labor’s position of dumping the carbon tax if it is replaced with an emissions trading scheme versus 26% disapproving; strongly favourable response to dumping fringe benefit tax on cars, weakly favourable response to dumping the mining tax, super tax increase and cap on education expenses, and strongly negative responses to dumping subsidies for low super contributions; and 25% opposition to live sheep and cattle exports, 16% unqualified support, and 52% support for the qualification that the receiving country should guarantee humane treatment.
ajm – Turnbull’s leadership aspirations are on deep freeze for at least 5 years
Crank
Of course it was the right thing for Rudd to do.
Only those blinded by hatred were deluded in thinking he wanted yet another go at the leadership.
It’s good for Shorten, it now officially ends the Rudd/Gillard era 😎
Swan should have gone long ago – he was a rat in the ranks.
[This Sunday on #AustralianAgenda @howespaul gives a frank & fearless account of Kevin Rudd. We also talk NSW politics with Premier O’Farrell]
*groans*
Thankfully at this point in the electoral cycle, nobody is paying attention.
Another little birdy told me that Rudd may not have been entirely disingenuous when it came to citing ‘family’ as a reason for pulling the pin.
Centre – Hawker was saying a few weeks ago that it is the right thing for Rudd to continue to serve on for the full term.
Boerwar,
Thanks for that. Sounds a lot like the situation in Australia that you are very familiar with.
Tricot
[swaprat@2067
I have succumbed to American Imperialistic power over our spelling.]
i NEVER will follow that yankee programme!! It will effect your mind.
You will become infantile, like a 10 year old. You will start wearing baseball caps, carry a BIG gun, chew gum, drink bad coffee, think the world is just a war game between “goodies”” and “baddies”, war is the best response to all problems, anything you don’t agree with or understand is socialism, though you will have no idea what and worst of all you will say “gonna” instead of “going to”!!!
Be afraid.
Boerwar:
Not Jessica. I thought she lived in China.
CC
[ajm – Turnbull’s leadership aspirations are on deep freeze for at least 5 years]
Not really. AGW is on Turnbull’s side. It’s here and it is getting worse.
confessions
I won’t go into details.
Boerwar – that would have been expensive.
Tricot,
I’m sure Rudd will try and white ant Labor from outside. It’s just with each passing day he’ll become a distant more irrelevant.
Another little birdy told me that Rudd may not have been entirely disingenuous when it came to citing ‘family’ as a reason for pulling the pin.
well, there is the Rudd family and the Labor ‘family’…
[leftocentre Nov 13, 8:42pm via Twitter for iPad
Kevin Rudd will defect to China, boarding a submarine surfacing off Noosa Beach.]
:laugh:
boerwar – you wish, jellyfish.
Crank
The right thing was to wait for Rudd to do the right thing.
And Swan can stay if he wishes – it’s his choice. Swan will make the right call too in time 😉
If the vote for Labor falls by the same amount in Griffith as it did at the 2013 election, we can rack up another LNP Win.
TLBD
The differentest language I every had a go at was Pitjantjatjara. It was quite a bit of fun and I got up to day-to-day conversation status with it.
Gawd! I just realised @2097 I have kind of asserted that anyone from South Africa, and living in Perth, is a Jappie!
Another faux pas tonight. Time to lurk as the pro/con Ruddites write/rewrite history.
Surely somebody has to step in and get rid of Abbott, he’s a security risk. If he’s blabbing on national TV about spying on Indonesia, what will he blab about next?
This is beyond partisan politics, this government is fast becoming destructive to the national interest. The denial of climate change and refusal to participate in international forums will isolate us from future economic opportunities in addition to destroying our international reputation.
Either the business world or the more sensible members of the LNP have to act and clean out the idiots from the front bench.
[a reason for pulling the pin]
Better to pull it before someone else does and you don’t know about it. I suspect someone may have said in his shell-like: “I have this little explosive …”
CC
[boerwar – you wish, jellyfish.]
I would like it you occasionally got something right. Your predictability is so boring.
I wish for one thing, mainly: that somehow either 97% of the world’s climate scientists are completely wrong, or some deus ex machina arrives to negate what AGW is bringing us already.
[Not really. AGW is on Turnbull’s side. It’s here and it is getting worse.]
Will be interesting to see if the Libs finally start looking at this in a realistic fashion. However the irrational True Disbelievers in the Fibs are strong at the moment.
Going to become harder for them though if there actually are major trading partners who price CO2 in the next couple of years, and if the EU price rises.
The best bit about learning pitjantjatjara was being with pitjantjatjara speakers when I was learning and they were teaching me. Such fun. Such laughter.
MTBW It’s how I feel. 2010 was a disappointment for him but he should have retired then.
You won’t like me saying either that I voted for Shirten because Albo was about the only one to call off the Ruddistas from 2010 to 13 byt his excuse was that he was too busy to do anything. Strange that he was often seen with the Ruddistas keeping a check on the numbers.
I also have some info from a couple of ex Gillard Ministers both of whom are well regarded by all. I give Kevin his due for the Apology, constant work thru GFC and his immense intelligence. Other than that I am so pleased it’s over.
CC
[ajm – Turnbull’s leadership aspirations are on deep freeze for at least 5 years]
Turnbull’s aspirations have never been in the deep freeze – it was just that he didn’t have a path to pursue them. With Abbott stumbling so badly already, it’s clear he saw his chance this evening and really powered into his speech on Rudd. He could have done something much quieter.
imacca
‘Going to become harder for them though if there actually are major trading partners who price CO2 in the next couple of years, and if the EU price rises.’
Xi might end up being Abbott’s nemisis. The Chinese have started a new Long March. This time is their environment, including AGW.
Hate to brake it to you Bludgers.
I don’t think a democratically elected first term PM will ever be going anywhere again before that next election 😎
swaprat@2108
You are dead right of course.
Actually, in their natural habitat – i.e. – the US of A – I have found Americans to be friendly and hospitable.
They believe the US is the centre (center) of the universe of course, but then again, it is.
It is when then take their ideas overseas and impose them on others it is time to arch up.
Tony Wright says it so very well.
[Now Labor can put Kevin Rudd behind it and Rudd himself might get on with his life. But he leaves behind an astonishing trail of collateral damage: including former ministers Nicola Roxon, Simon Crean, Craig Emerson, Martin Ferguson, Greg Combet, Stephen Smith and Peter Garrett, and many staffers, bureaucrats and colleagues burnt out by Kevin Rudd’s ambition, which burnt beyond his own capacity to control it.]
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/there-will-be-relief-and-anger-20131113-2xh5a.html#ixzz2kWY3bXOq
Im not the least bit surprised Rudd is resigning his seat, just as with the leadership.
The picture here of a mad driven sociopath was always a shallow bath of slander and pyscho babble – in which sat a dirty wailing baby called June 2010, averting its gaze from the terrible stupidity of its own ill-justified existence, and its failure to engage the electorate’s love.
And so it ends, with PM Abbott. Who, incidentally, gave a disturbingly unhinged interview tonight,and may not have a full term in him ‘upstairs’, if tonight is any guide.
I salute the Ruddster – slayer of Howard. Only majority winner for the ALP in 20 years. All the best for whats next, Kevin. Let’s see who else in the party can follow in your steps.
At the 2013 election Labors vote in Griffith dropped 3.7%
If it drops the same amount now Rudd has gone, LNP Win
Centre,
And, that is good news for Labor.
On what has been presented to date, Abbott is clearly not up to the job. Shorten may only have to confirm he has a united Party behind him and Abbott may crumple in a heap of no performance.
Centre
[I don’t think a democratically elected first term PM will ever be going anywhere again before that next election]
Does the same rule apply to Victorian Premiers, NT First Ministers, etc?
If poll driven politicians see some advantage in deposing a leader they will do it. They’ll be able to rationalise the damage that the deposing of Rudd did to Labor was due to the particular circumstances and doesn’t apply to the situation where they think they can gain an advantage.
Centre – you may be right but a week is a long time in politics.
At the moment, the Oz electorate is tired and bored and have put politics in the set and forget basket until at least Christmas.
Come the first budget in 2014 and the change in the Senate in July 2014 it will be another matter I sense.
By which time just over 2 years to another election.
Things not looking all that good for the Libs in Victoria.
The economy has not gone into over-drive and 6-8 months from now, that 53-47 figure may well be to Labor’s favour.
It does not take long.
Oh, and another reason why Xi might end up being Abbott’s nemisis. The Chinese have just decided to lower their growth target, transfer investments from fixed assets (which require plenty of steel and coal) in order to boost consumer spending and to focus on environmental repair, including addressing AGW.
None of that is good news for Abbott politically.
Oh, and the Chinese are going to try to do that while the Party maintains political control. Not easy.
Bye bye Kevin, did a lot of good early on but lost the plot – would’ve been a lot more interesting if he left after he lost the leadership imo
Wonder who Clive can find to run in Griffith??? – the right candidate, a big spending campaign – Labor preferences, could make things pretty interesting
[None of that is good news for Abbott politically.]
It’s all Labor’s fault!
ST
[If it drops the same amount now Rudd has gone, LNP Win]
I know I’ll regret actually engaging with St but if the LNP don’t contest the seat they won’t win it, and why would they take the risk of contesting it when they could easily go backwards?
ajm,
Could be Campbell for Canberra!
Who or what is Sean Tisme?
ajm
I said PM. And it won’t be happening!
duck,
I think it is something that is sick.
[I know I’ll regret actually engaging with St but if the LNP don’t contest the seat they won’t win it, and why would they take the risk of contesting it when they could easily go backwards?]
Queensland is one of Labors weakest states.
Rudd won with a measily 53% TPP
The LNP will contest.
[Psephos
Posted Wednesday, November 13, 2013 at 9:59 pm | PERMALINK
Griffith bi-election
I gather straights and gays are eligible too.]
Trannies?
The Indonesians, having more or less got the Abbott Government where they want it, are probably stitching up all sorts of goodies in exchange for a few asylum seeker crumbs for Abbott and Morrison.
I dare say the signal Abbott and SBY have come to taws will be a joint Indonesian-Australian announcement of a package of initiatives on which Indonesia will take leadership in the regional Bali Process. The goodies that Abbott & Co will shovel Indonesia’s way will largely be hidden from Australians, but will be front and centre for those Indonesians wishing to prosper in the coming elections. Some of the goodies will be symbolic; others will be substantive.
As for the asylum seekers, there is absolutely no doubt that Morrison will continue to treat them as badly as he can get away with in order to deter them. He is certainly going to fully test the proposition that asylum seekers are driven by pull factors and that push factors are irrelevant.
GG
[Could be Campbell for Canberra!]
He would be eaten alive. Lot of pent up hostility to him already and making such a cynical move would really ramp that up. Besdies, the bikies would be patrolling the streets of Griffith monstering people to vote against him. I want to be able to sleep without bikes roaring up the street all the time!
Good night all.
*goes to bed*
‘Tony Wright says it so very well.’
Tony Wright is a pale imitation of a journalist and only an idiot would quote anything he says with approbation.