GhostWhoVotes tweets that the Abbott government’s second Newspoll result has the Coalition leading Labor 53-47, down from 56-44 a fortnight ago. The Coalition is down two points on the primary vote to 45%, with Labor up one to 32% and the Greens up two to 12%. Newspoll thereby returns to the pack after its previous result, which was unique out of the 15 polls published since the election in showing a significant rise in support for the Coalition. Tony Abbott’s personal ratings are still much better than any he enjoyed as Opposition Leader, although he is down two on approval to 45% and up four on disapproval to 38%. Bill Shorten has made a handy five-point gain on approval to 37%, with disapproval steady at 24%. Preferred prime minister changes only slightly, Abbott’s lead of 47-28 a fortnight ago narrowing to 46-30.
Stay tuned for the weekly Essential Research, which should be out later today.
UPDATE: Essential Research remains at 53-47, with both Coalition and Labor down a point on the primary vote, to 44% and 35% respectively, and the Greens up one to 9%. Monthly personal ratings find Tony Abbott’s disapproval on the upswing after a post-election improvement, up five points to 40%, while his approval is down one to 45% off his personal best result of a month ago. Bill Shorten’s debut ratings are 31% approval and 27% disapproval, and he trails Abbott as preferred prime minister 42-27. The poll also throws in personal ratings for Joe Hockey as Treasurer, in what looks like it might become a regular series, and it shows him viewed very favourably with 45% approval and 28% disapproval.
Further questions find 48% approving Labor’s position of dumping the carbon tax if it is replaced with an emissions trading scheme versus 26% disapproving; strongly favourable response to dumping fringe benefit tax on cars, weakly favourable response to dumping the mining tax, super tax increase and cap on education expenses, and strongly negative responses to dumping subsidies for low super contributions; and 25% opposition to live sheep and cattle exports, 16% unqualified support, and 52% support for the qualification that the receiving country should guarantee humane treatment.
GhostWhoVotes @GhostWhoVotes 54s
#Newspoll Shorten: Approve 37 (+5) Disapprove 24 (0) #auspol
GhostWhoVotes @GhostWhoVotes 48s
#Newspoll Abbott: Approve 45 (-2) Disapprove 38 (+4) #auspol
Again it’s interesting with the approval ratings, abit of a change there.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/bill-shorten-makes-up-ground-on-tony-abbott-in-latest-newspoll/story-fn59niix-1226757704590#mm-premium
“Shorten makes up ground”
OMG this Australian is so anti-LNP…….oh, hang on, that is not the right meme for PB is it…..sorry, just carry on!
Coalition still well ahead… Labor still at 100 year lows.
Brilliant.
Interesting document FYI:
http://www.imo.org/OurWork/Facilitation/IllegalMigrants/Documents/MSC.167(78).pdf
The Coalition seems to have read:
para 2.5
The responsibility to provide a place of safety, or to
ensure that a place of safety is provided, falls on the Government responsible for the SAR region in which the survivors were recovered.
And then forgotten to read the rest of the document. 🙂
para 2.6
Each case, however, can involve different circumstances. These amendments give the responsible Government the flexibility to address each situation on a case-by-case basis
para 6.15
The Conventions, as amended, indicate that delivery to a place of safety should take into account the particular circumstances of the case.
So, Abbott’s assertions and those of his loyal acolytes that the Indonesians are in breach of international law by not disembarking rescued AS are wrong.
Since Abbott is in a position to have his brain-farts fact checked before he inflicts them on the wider populace, and since a reasonable person would expect that he would do so, we can safely assert that he is lying, as well as wrong.
Much Surprisiment!!
[“Shorten makes up ground”
OMG this Australian is so anti-LNP…….oh, hang on, that is not the right meme for PB is it…..sorry, just carry on!]
Wrong again mate. It is simply voters realising how big a fcuk up Tony Abbott actually is.
Why, for example, did he turn a boat around so far that it headed straight to Christmas Island?
Apple Blossom says that you are all boring and should step away from your computers and / or take up a hobby. In Mod Lib’s case she should stop praying for people to drown.
[It is simply voters realising how big a fcuk up Tony Abbott actually is.]
He has a positive Net Approval.
Did Gillard ever have a positive Net Approval?
@Mod Lib/3
Did they have another pre-written article up before publishing?
Article mentions Tony Abbott’s personal ratings is “falling slightly”.
Well, I guess that’s not really correct is it?
I also note that The Australian was saying the PM was doing his job in regards to his dissatisfaction, as to try and not bad mouth the PM.
@Sean/4
Do try harder.
Abbott’s disapproval is already 38 and he hasn’t even acted like a complete idiot in parliament yet.
Not a good sign for Mod Lib’s team.
Mod Lib will be going to bed soon so the echo chamber will be ready for use soon!
[Did Gillard ever have a positive Net Approval?]
Err … yes.
Video of keating’s remembrance day address
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/paul-keating-decries-great-war-in-remembrance-day-address-20131111-2xbla.html
[Did Gillard ever have a positive Net Approval?]
Just because you’re a moron doesn’t mean I am willing to do your research for you.
Richard Marles doing well on Lateline. Making good sense on boats and carbon pricing. It is a bipartisan position to deal with carbon emissions in the most efficient way possible.
Gillard closes gap, Rudd draws level and now Shorten makes up ground. Dejavu
ShowsOn,
Gillard will remain Australia’s most unpopular Prime Minister Australia has ever had(confirmed by polls). Don’t stress your little head.
@Sean/17
Abbott is already there.
[William Bowe
Posted Monday, November 11, 2013 at 11:09 pm | PERMALINK
Did Gillard ever have a positive Net Approval?
Err … yes.]
The end of 2010 appears to be the last time Gillard had a positive Net Approval…..so fair enough. It was certainly heavily negative for the last 2 1/2 years of her rule!
[ShowsOn,
Gillard will remain Australia’s most unpopular Prime Minister Australia has ever had(confirmed by polls). Don’t stress your little head.]
LOL! Are you trying to out moron Mod Lib? Where did I even mention Gillard in this thread!?
You seem to have caught a Gillard fetish because you don’t like the fact that Abbott turned some boats around so far that they ended up at Christmas Island.
Of course we don’t know how many boats he has turned around using this ‘point it towards Christmas Island’ method because he won’t tell us because he is a secretive prat who is unfit to be PM.
Ah, nothing like Coalition hubris. They have a poll lead during a honeymoon straight after an election, so therefore they’re unbeatable. That attitude totally won’t bite you in the bum, no!
According to this:
http://www.newspoll.com.au/opinion-polls-2/opinion-polls-2/
Gillard had positive Net Approval up to the day she busted on the Carbon Tax lie… it was all downhill from there(and negative net approval)
Gillard’s not PM. Abbott is.
So you are comparing Gillard with Abbott?
So Abbott is the worst PM we are ever going to have, and he’s not even in Parliament session yet.
[According to this:
http://www.newspoll.com.au/opinion-polls-2/opinion-polls-2/
Gillard had positive Net Approval up to the day she busted on the Carbon Tax lie… it was all downhill from there(and negative net approval)]
Clearly your research skills are superior to those of Mod Lib, who is in general clueless.
Mod Lib
Please don’t go.
Stay n have fun.
I wanna tell you how when I claim money back from my health fund it’s really claiming a tax deduction.
Just like your salary sacrificing claim for weddings n meals you’re really “claiming a tax deduction. Ha Ha!
You just don’t get it do you. Have you asked someone from the accounts department at your hospital to explain it to you yet? Too embarrassed I bet.
Just saw Julie Bishop on a rerun of the Drum, five times admitting that questions regarding the Indonesian relationship are too hard for her and she’s passing them on to the Immigration Minister. Absolutely pathetic. Surely she’s got to be shunted off somewhere. Too early to send her to the backbench. Maybe she should be offered a job as Minister for something unimportant, like Sport.
Is anywhere offering odds on Tony Abbott not being Liberal leader at the next election? I’d probably put a few dollars on.
The general thinking used to be that the Liberal Party revered its leaders and ditching a sitting Prime Minister was something which went against their firmest values and instincts. But I think that is in the past now, as we saw in the Victoria state party recently.
I give Abbott a 50/50 chance of surviving to the next election.
The kouk on twitter
[Maybe the Coalition will have a Direct Action plan on live animal exports. Pay importers if they don’t treat the animals cruelly #lateline]
Night all
Psyclaw:
Example1:
$100k salary
$10k tax deduction for charity spending
$90k taxable income
Example 2:
$100k salary
$10k Meal Entertainment claim for Wedding catering
$90k taxable income (50% of the benefit to you, 50% to NSW Health)
You say tomato, I say tomato…sem sem.
You claimed there was no such scheme and then ended up with egg on your face (of course this was when you came out of hiding days later).
Still not game to answer the question whether or not you knew Wedding catering was an eligible claim, eh? Interesting that……
[Psyclaw:
Example1:
$100k salary
$10k tax deduction for charity spending
$90k taxable income
Example 2:
$100k salary
$10k Meal Entertainment claim for Wedding catering
$90k taxable income (50% of the benefit to you, 50% to NSW Health)
You say tomato, I say tomato…sem sem.
You claimed there was no such scheme and then ended up with egg on your face (of course this was when you came out of hiding days later).
Still not game to answer the question whether or not you knew Wedding catering was an eligible claim, eh? Interesting that……]
Can you please explain to me how I can claim a refund, rebate, or compensation from the $2 – $3 billion a year paid parental leave tax that Tony Abbott is going to introduce?
RT: I certainly hope you are right!
@Mod Lib/30
Is this anyway not linked to Weddings the Coalition Party have with their “rich” friends?
[ShowsOn
…..Can you please explain to me how I can claim a refund, rebate, or compensation from the $2 – $3 billion a year paid parental leave tax that Tony Abbott is going to introduce?]
Sure.
Have babies.
[zoidlord
Posted Monday, November 11, 2013 at 11:27 pm | PERMALINK
@Mod Lib/30
Is this anyway not linked to Weddings the Coalition Party have with their “rich” friends?]
Well, you can claim for expenses going to a restaurant to have a meal where you are claiming Meal Entertainment…..but not sure how that works with Weddings! 😉
Gotta love Rhiannon’s detention in Sri Lanka. I guess they aren’t too keen there on disguised commie agitators. Why’d they let her out and back here .. I guess they have standards.
[Sure.
Have babies.]
LOL! You moron.
Mick77:
Perhaps she jumped into the water next to a visiting Australian yacht and they used the “Centre principle” to bring her back to Australia? :devil:
Resurgent T
[Is anywhere offering odds on Tony Abbott not being Liberal leader at the next election? I’d probably put a few dollars on…. I give Abbott a 50/50 chance of surviving to the next election.]
Well on that basis you can make a motza with sportsbet offering $7
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/Sworn-In-Government-575056.html
I betcha you don’t put one cent on!
Resurgent Turkeys (any relation to Battle Turkey’s?) @28
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/outrights?ev_oc_grp_id=1192316
Probability of Abbott leading the Liberals at the next election is about 90%. I think it is less than that but more than 50%.
28
How long has LNP been in front in polls for a such a long period of time? I know there was perhaps a scattered eight weeks in the last 3 years where labor was level but to say that now after LNP in govt for 2 months and the same poll is being repeated is either clutching for a small straw or an alternate reality.
Geoffery Robertson: Rupert Murdoch is revered by many here but in the UK his lieutenants are in the dock charged with corruption.
Mod Lib
Here’s your logic:
Travel to work by bus.
Travel to work by car.
Therefore car = bus because they both get you to the same endpoint.
A tax deduction and a debit against salary in a Salary Sacrifice scheme are different processes with different rules. End of story.
Here’s a suggestion. Fill in your tax return form with a tax deduction claim for meals in the work based expenditure section and see how far you get. And if you wish you can write Dept of Health all over the form.
You can repeat your utter crap all night but it won’t change reality.
Resurgent Turkeys@28
Sportsbet has Abbott as Coalition leader next election, Yes $1.07 No $7.00.
I think Victoria is different because of the closely balanced parliament and the Geoff Shaw factor. They may not have had an alternative to removing Baillieu.
psyclaw:
🙂
Evening all. I find this a comparatively fortunate result considering the embarrassment of our border security under the Coalition. No sooner do we have a PM named Abbott and, sure enough, he makes the entire Cabinet take a vow of silence. Operation Run and Hide is not fooling anyone.
Judging from their travel habits though, they have no intention of taking a vow of poverty any time soon.
Shorten’s ratings are improving, which is significant considering all the baggage he carried from the leadership challenges.
Night all.
[Well on that basis you can make a motza with sportsbet offering $7]
I’m certainly considering it. The problem is the shortness of three year terms and the lack of a clear replacement. He might be able to make it.
Of course there is always the possibility that he will grow into the job and become a great statesman the likes of which the nation and the world have never seen. (hahaha)
[any relation to Battle Turkey’s?]
It would be some coincidence if there wasn’t.
Kevin Bonham @ 44
[I think Victoria is different because of the closely balanced parliament and the Geoff Shaw factor. They may not have had an alternative to removing Baillieu.]
It is true that I had not appreciated the specific factors involved there. But prior to the crisis there had been a lot of grumbling about Baillieu and his leadership and performance.
I think all leaders from now on are going to be slaves to the opinion polls and at risk of being dumped for a fresh face. I think conservative supporters are mistaken if they think that this is something which belongs to an ALP culture and from which they are immune.
RT@48
The support for LNP/Abbott has been around for three years. It has been reasonably consistent. It will take a consistent stuff up over a long period to make the people who have had this opinion to shift. LNP changing leaders is very unlikely for a while. Ill health or retirement could occur. Obviously losing an election will make it happen.
GhostWhoVotes @GhostWhoVotes
#Newspoll Preferred PM: Abbott 46 (-1) Shorten 30 (+2) #auspol