A shift to Labor over the previous three weeks has been blown away and then some in the latest BludgerTrack poll aggregate, which has the Coalition up 1.5% on two-party preferred and gouges a further nine from Labor’s already feeble showing on the national seat projection (three seats from New South Wales plus one from each other state plus the combined territories result). The damage was done entirely by this week’s 58-42 Newspoll result, which is visible as the most recent outlier in the charts on the sidebar. The results from weekly pollsters Essential Research and Morgan were both consistent with a 55-45 trend that’s showed no real sign of budging since February. Another feature of the result is that the Greens have fallen to their lowest ebb this term.
…… yeh, yeh.
rupe’s return.
what does george hearst declaim to merrick in the last scene of deadwood ?
“….. I will get my own people to install my own newspaper to lean the other way.”
Ever, the clear and straighforward reporting and recording of the truth and the facts works against the LiesNotPolicy fanfare of obscurance and opacity, deception and denegration, and abrogation of duty.
which is why you don’t get the former, and the latter is spewed forth daily.
…… Hearst/Rupe says ….
“….. Drive on.”
the media’s abrogation of duty.
101 days to the election…… The end is nigh.
for example.
Morning all. This might interest some on the NBN debate. It is the thoughts of an experienced ex Telstra networks engineer on the NBN network rollout. Overall it is quite complimentary to the idea, and dismissive of the coalition alternative. It also has constructive suggestions for how the rollout could be improved.
[I think that the recent commencement of the NBN network installation is ideal to help with Australia’s future development in pretty well all areas of endeavour, including industrial development and improved telecommuting to take more pressure off road and air travel. And I very much like the overall deal that the NBN has currently done with Telstra. I feel it’s good for the NBN and also good for Telstra.
I like the point-to-multipoint fixed microwave radio plans for areas of regional Australia where Optical Fibre to the Home is not viable. Also the Satellite plans for outback Australia where the other telecommunications technologies are not economical.
The main area of change I would like to see is in the need to give priority to the areas where the NBN network should be provided first. These are industrial/business/medical areas plus residential areas where the current Broadband technologies are not adequate – eg in residential areas a long distance from their local exchanges where current DSL technologies don’t have effective reach. Also, areas outside the coverage by the existing hybrid Optical Fibre – Coax CableTV networks already serving residential areas pretty well for the time being. ]
http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&srchtype=discussedNews&gid=2132296&item=244866972&type=member&trk=eml-anet_dig-b_pd-ttl-cn&ut=23VV_UxdP_xBM1&_mSplash=1
The main limitation identified is availability of skilled installation staff. We need to train more.
The only real interest in this election is can the coalition crack 100? I’ld say that will be where all the interest will be
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/exlabor-pollster-tips-epic-disaster-20130605-2nqlb.html
Ben Pobjie writes:
[Look, Labor is depressed. So am I. On September 14, the whole country is going straight to the bottom of the ocean, and there’s not a damn thing we can do about it. But we can surely have a laugh while we’re waiting to sink. I beseech you, ALP, put down the violins, and go have some fun. Because every day your backbenchers show up to parliament wearing pants is just another day spent denying reality.]
Of course, they could always try being a progressive party instead of a parody party. There’s a thought. I’d find that a lot more fun than 100 pizzas to Chris Pyne’s place of Greg Combet without his trousers.
or Greg Combet without …
The pro coalition media and supporters , still talking about hypothetical polls , which are useful as coalition winning unimportant divisions.
Why is Abbott and his cronies scared to debate
aye MB, and how will the media hide it when,that debate is forced upon them ?
Ha, two labor members have already packed there office up…..
The public need to to decide this on election day is the leader of the liberals and the party as a whole to be trusted
Here is what the leader of the liberals has promised
1- Abbott promised he will not lie to get into government
2- Abbott promised he will have surpluses every year
3- Abbott promised he will to stop the boats
4- Abbott promised there will be no carbon price/tax under his government
5- Abbott promised cost of living will be lower under his government
6- Abbott promised Electricity prices will not rise
7- Abbott promised there will be no new taxes or rises
8- Abbott promised he means what he says and wont change his mind
9- Abbott promised this campaign will be on truth
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which 2 labor members? the PM? Crean?
[Meguire Bob
Posted Thursday, June 6, 2013 at 7:09 am | PERMALINK
The public need to to decide this on election day is the leader of the liberals and the party as a whole to be trusted]
Bob, get rid of Gillard and people might just do that….. Labor have chosen wipeout over victory so don’t cry to the voters to chose wisely.
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centaur009
Posted Thursday, June 6, 2013 at 7:12 am | PERMALINK
which 2 labor members? the PM? Crean?]
Two no names
Here what will happen if the leader of the liberals get into government
1- Abbott deliberately lied to get into government
2- Abbott will take Australia into recession each year of his government
3- Abbott will not stop the boats
4- Abbott will bring in a 4 timers expensive carbon price/tax
5- Abbott will make cost of living over 4 times more expensive
6- Abbott will make cost of Electricity prices rise
7- Abbott will bring in a 4 times more expensive carbon price/tax , GST 20% , PPL , Business tax rise
8- Abbott will deny what he says and promised
9- see above
From previous thread
Nope, I suspect a wrong needs to be repaired or public perception will continue punishment beyond the election.
With Gillard, Labor is a sick creature that needs to be put down and thereafter an object of scorn. However a Rudd return, even with a loss, will be seen as Labor trying to redeem itself.
Originally I was impressed by the religiosity of this but on reflection I think it is more Wagnerian
Brunnhilde (JG) must ride her stallion (the ministry) into Seigfried’s (KR) funeral pier so that the Rheinmaiden (ALP members ) can reclaim the gold and destroy the Gods (faction bosses) thus ending the corruption of the world.
Set it to music and stage it over 17 hours and people will come from all over the world to see it. BUT I don’t think its going to change the election result.
Rummel it’s like Green eggs and Ham withought the happy ending. Here try Gillard, in a box, with a fox, in a house, etc etc
the public says ” we do not like green eggs and Ham we do not like them sam I am!
rummel
Posted Thursday, June 6, 2013 at 7:13 am | PERMALINK
Meguire Bob
Posted Thursday, June 6, 2013 at 7:09 am | PERMALINK
The public need to to decide this on election day is the leader of the liberals and the party as a whole to be trusted
Bob, get rid of Gillard and people might just do that….. Labor have chosen wipeout over victory so don’t cry to the voters to chose wisely.
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if the voters choose wisely Gillard wins by default
rummel
The ones who will be crying after september 14th election aka like in 2010
will be anti Gillard and coalition supporters
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
Potentially more woes for Geelong.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/target-to-axe-jobs-in-push-to-cut-costs-20130605-2nqh3.html
VW’s local management is in for a hiding.
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/volkswagen-told-to-come-clean-on-safety-concerns-20130605-2nqnx.html#poll
There will be chaos if Pyne becomes Minister.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/too-hard-for-coalition-to-unpick-education-reforms-20130605-2nqjf.html
Name , shame and hammer these bastards! And I wonder who they would vote for.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/visa-scheme-rorting-leaves-foreigners-in-debt-bondage-20130605-2nqnw.html
Is this what “flexibility” means?
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/457-worker-told-to-fork-out-pay-to-boss-20130605-2nqno.html
Remember whe Rudd got shitcanned when he spoke about the need to look ahead to when mining alone could not sustain our economy?
http://www.smh.com.au/business/wa-in-recession-as-growth-slows-to-a-trickle-20130605-2nqh4.html
This may well turn out to be the case.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/05/greens-leader-abbott-jeopardises-children
Alan Moir has Popeye and his wrecking ball on the job this morning.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/opinion/cartoons/alan-moir-20090907-fdxk.html
Cathy Wilcox and the cultural dichotomy.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/opinion/cartoons/cathy-wilcox-20090909-fhd6.html
David Pope with a revealing look at Can-Do.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/opinion/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
David Rowe with a rather sick one on navel gazing.
http://www.afr.com/p/national/cartoon_gallery_david_rowe_1g8WHy9urgOIQrWQ0IrkdO
2 no names Smythe, Symon?
Fran
[Of course, they could always try being a progressive party instead of a parody party. There’s a thought. I’d find that a lot more fun than 100 pizzas to Chris Pyne’s place of Greg Combet without his trousers.]
I agree. The trouble is, most of the controlling blocks in Labor now really are not progressive, and do not feel any obligation to advance progressive causes, outside IR. They are conservative-minded people, who happened to have been born in union homes.
Anyway, they should loosen up. Anyone who can no longer laugh at a situation, especially one as absurd as Labor’s now, has lost their sense of perspective.
Morning All
Queensland lost 🙁
Only one man to blame imo – Campbell Newman, he has to go
Speaking of going, Chris Bowen must be sacked as Immigration Minister immediately due to not acting on the Egyptian, insert all the possible negative terms you know here. Oh wait, he has already gone. Let’s have an inquiry, learn from it and move on.
100 days to go, when will Labor fire up??? When will Labor re-enter the game??? Maybe they need to do a Paul Gallan and punch someone in the face to send a message to the team – worked for NSW last night
[if the voters choose wisely Gillard wins by default]
Gillard got the PM by default because people chose Labor and kevin wisely and that’s the problem, she can’t win elections because the only people who support her are union hacks in Labor. Kevin had popular support among the people.
Mb
The anti-Labor right supporters (they are the problem more than Gillard) have been crying for a while. I have pretty much stopped. So we can start laughing on election night. The idiotocracy that has been the right faction rule in Canberra is about to come crashing down as it did in Sydney.
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Meguire Bob
Posted Thursday, June 6, 2013 at 7:18 am | PERMALINK
rummel
The ones who will be crying after september 14th election aka like in 2010
will be anti Gillard and coalition supporters]
Wow, that’s like every one in Australia bar half of PB a half of caucus. Lol
Socrates
Posted Thursday, June 6, 2013 at 7:23 am | PERMALINK
Mb
The anti-Labor right supporters (they are the problem more than Gillard) have been crying for a while. I have pretty much stopped. So we can start laughing on election night.
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I think this would be better winning lotto
if a repeat of 2010 did happen , and Abbott lost the coalition chance to govern again
[Brunnhilde (JG) must ride her stallion (the ministry) into Seigfried’s (KR) funeral pier so that the Rheinmaiden (ALP members ) can reclaim the gold and destroy the Gods (faction bosses) thus ending the corruption of the world.
Set it to music and stage it over 17 hours and people will come from all over the world to see it. BUT I don’t think its going to change the election result.]
great post!
MB
Even labor members are making jokes about Labor…. Your spin does not hide your tears.
rummel @ 28
Lets look at Gillard as a leader compared to Abbott
Abbott expected the media to put him in government
in 2011,2012 and early 2013
newsltd/Abbott coalition threw the worse dirty propaganda at her they could think of
Gillard is owning them
rummel
The only tears i have is from laughter , thinking about the howls of protest again from news ltd, when Abbott loses once more to Gillard
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Meguire Bob
Posted Thursday, June 6, 2013 at 7:30 am | PERMALINK
rummel @ 28
Lets look at Gillard as a leader compared to Abbott
Abbott expected the media to put him in government
in 2011,2012 and early 2013
newsltd/Abbott coalition threw the worse dirty propaganda at her they could think of
Gillard is owning them]
Yes, more people would like Abbott rather then Gillard. I thought it was the Labor party and not the Gillard party? If you want a win MB you would support the removal of the milestone hanging around the neck of Labor. Why the extremist support for Gillard that will destroy labor and end up as a wipeout at the election?
And from the Land of the Free –
Mississippi Repug governor shows Southern class.
http://americablog.com/2013/06/mississippi-governor-phil-bryant-working-mothers-education.html
And nice stuff from Cory Bernardi’s Tea Party.
http://americablog.com/2013/06/republican-party-doesnt-want-black-people-to-vote-per-texas-tea-party-leader.html
This is how to handle smart-arsed interviewers.
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013/06/05/video-rep-jim-mcdermott-d-wa-smacks-down-foxs-megyn-kelly-you-are-putting-words-in-my-mouth-stop-it/
The military breeds some good types.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/mccaskill-excoriates-general-who-overturne
An epic rant from Rachael Maddow.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017123172
Abbott is far from popular but unfortunately more popular than Julia for now – if people had a real choice they’d take neither. We need to focus on the policies not the people
Heading off a bit early today – have a great day all
rummel
Posted Thursday, June 6, 2013 at 7:34 am | PERMALINK
Yes, more people would like Abbott rather then Gillard. I thought it was the Labor party and not the Gillard party? If you want a win MB you would support the removal of the milestone hanging around the neck of Labor. Why the extremist support for Gillard that will destroy labor and end up as a wipeout at the election?
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rummel the only people who Abbott is popular too is news ltd
Newsltd/Abbott coalition know they can not beat Gillard
Why they are calling for a change , think about it if they want to be in government and if gillard was as bad as they claim they would want her to stay
But calling for a change is showing newsltd fear their man Abbott can not win on september 14th
Good Morning
While I agree with our sage that Labor is unlikely to win there are some things to note.
Unlikely does not mean impossible. Hewson proved that.
This could be an election to lose. For once recession on the horizon when it looks like an LNP win. Breaking the boom for an incoming LNP Government. Hockey really will have to prove his worth.
It may be a short term depending on what happens with the Carbon Price and Abbott keeping a promise on a DD.
The next election will see Labor with a new Leader either Combet or Shorten most likely in my view. Another woman leader will take a while.
Labor will reform the influence of the right on things like AS and SSM will be greatly diminished. The strength of Whitlam was his progressive policies Labor needs to return to that strength.
If there is a loss it is not going to be a landslide like some Lib Bots seem to think. There will be stronger showing by minor parties and as campaign rolls out the stark policy choice will narrow the gap shown by current polls.
If Abbott does become PM he is going to be quite restricted in the things he can do first term Starting with the big one. The known known of rollback on the Carbon Price.
Abbott has set the standard. Opposition will mean Labor will be wreckers of procedures and conventions in Parliament to show how the LNP is a government of chaos and incompetence.
So Lib Bots crow while you can modern government is no bed of roses.
guytaur
Surprised you giving these opinion polls any credit
Guytaur
But will Abbott get the chance to govern, The Governor General can refuse to swear him as prime minster , if the election is close and the coalition do not control the senate
Abbott can not govern
MB
I do not believe the polls. I still believe Labor can win. I just think its gong to be very tough because of polls and the narrative Murdoch and allies run off of them.
Social Media will make a difference so I don’t think its going to be a landslide like last time Murdoch did this in 1975.
However a difference enough to win? Yet to be seen. My gut feeling is policy will count in the end. Yet the media keeps blocking that as part of election process at the moment.
This is why I think the result is going to be close. The campaign period does make a difference. The question is how much?
Mb
Under the post 1975 changes, the GG will swear in Abbott, then parliament will sit. This year’s budget will be passed. Abbott will not have to pass supply bills till this time in 2014. If he does not get a Senate majority he can still negotiate with minors. If he still cannot pass supply bills, he could call a DD with Labor seen as the wreckers. Then it is goodbye Senate too.
Socrates
Your confidence of Abbott winning a DD is misplaced. Abbott will find that in government scrutiny will prevent a lot of his winning ways he has now.
morning
Apparently there will be an official statement from the PM office shortly.
Guytaur 40
I think that is realistically Labor’s best chance to reposition itself. However you sop short of the internal reform Labor needs to gain credibility. Also, I think you should believe the polls. State results recently all confirm them. This will be a thumping.
although it could well be an inaccurate report by the radio station
MB
Before you comment. Abbott’s winning ways refer to polls not elections.
Abbott has not won an election as party leader.
Guytaur
Wishful thinking. The electorate is stubborn. The almost fixed voting indicates that 55% of the voters will vote coalition.
Now there are a few unknowns- the relatively high undecideds MAY shift to Labor giving them perhaps a two percent boost (assuming a 2/1 split in Labor’s favour)
This leaves 3% to pick up over the next three months based on policies and presentation alone. Now since the two leaders are known there will not be much change over the election campaign. So it is all down to policies. Hard to see how these alone can lift Labor three points