Troy Bramston of The Australian has just announced on Twitter there will be no Newspoll this evening, so I’m giving the weekly Essential Research its own thread instead. The result finds Essential maintaining a recent record of taking a while to catch up with the trend, even after accounting for the stabilising effects of its two-week rolling average methodology. Labor has made a two-point gain on two-party preferred to now trail 53-47, from primary votes of 36% for Labor (up one), 47% for the Coalition (down one) and 9% for the Greens (steady). This is Labor’s strongest two-party vote from Essential since June last year, and its strongest primary vote since a month previously. There’s even been a move in favour of the carbon tax, up three on support to 38% since June and down six on opposition to 48% – although there are now 69% who say they have noticed an increased in costs compared with 52% in August, with no increase down from 36% to 24%.
On the question of whether a seat at the UN Security Council would be of benefit, 44% say it would and 24% say it wouldn’t, which interestingly compares with 66% and 14% when the question was last posed in September 2008 (right when the global financial crisis was erupting, if that means anything). The poll also finds clear majority support for implementing higher taxes to fund the National Disability Insurance Scheme, dental health scheme and Gonski reforms, but not the purchase of new submarines (although Lindsay Tanner might have something to say about that). Sixty-eight per cent responded that a budget surplus was important “for the country as a whole”, but only 46% for them personally.
This little black duck@3744
His impersonation of a VI is outstanding.
mari
[Ah Ha so you be a Royal Stewart clan well well]
On the less so good side they were religious loons that followed this guy nearly 200 years ago
http://www.broadrunit.com/RootsWeb/NormanMcLeod.html
After all this time in the small town the gaelic speaking Scots founded in NZ (via Nova Scotia) this still goes on.Very multicultural as Maori and Dalmatians are very much part of the mix.
[Waipu Highland Games – New Zealand 2012]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Bd0H8FZQY
[Waipu Pipe Band parading in the Waipu main street]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exR5X-_cW7c
[WAIPU HIGHLAND GAMES 2011 ]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuQBK2Zg9Fs
Fran:
I can’t find any indication of how the Greens view wheat de/regulation on their website.
I have a vague memory of an article last week saying Bandt was voting against wheat deregulation, but can’t find that either.
crikey whitey@3745
I still don’t understand why you wanted to appropriate the abbreviation for Manuscript?
Shellbell:
[The Commonwealth and Ashby could not agree on what they had agreed on hence the judge intervened. If they were ad idem on what they agreed on the court stamp would have been applied without a problem.]
Don’t want to go back and look up my exact words, but the jist of what I said was that the judge had to approve the settlement, whether that was a rubber stamp or not. I also adverted to the possibility that he might not approve.
Guess what?
As it turned out he did have some deciding to do, which is precisely why these agreements have to be run past the Court.
The judge made it quite clear that he was in the “allowing” and the “disallowing” business. It’s his court and his final say. He made it pretty clear that one of the versions was too onerous on Ashby. He specifically said he couldn’t allow that to proceed.
One presumes there might be lots of agreements that cause judges in cases to say, “Whoa!”, even IF both sides agree to them. Whether the judge rules these out, in the face of no objections from either side, is another matter.
I think today’s happenings proved my point that in Justice Rare’s court, he gets the final say.
[This little black duck
Posted Thursday, October 4, 2012 at 8:21 pm | PERMALINK
rummel,
Do you know who is standing for your mob in Monaro 2013?]
Sally…. my dog. You dont know how Eden monaro will swing… we all liked the last member but turfed him out for Kelly.
[Do you know who is standing for your mob in Monaro 2013?]
I believe it’s a former ACCI chap, but could be wrong.
dave@3750
Sure!
Peter Hendy. I was right.
Rummel is basically arguing that Labor has to take it on the chin every time, to set a good example, while his side of politics can whinge and squeal all they like because “that’s politics.”
Sure.
At the risk offending Rummel, after considerable thought, I did not sponsor him.
It was a worthy cause, but I have plenty of such causes.
I am pleased that I did not. As is BB.
I am seriously dismayed that Rummel sought $ but not reciprocation.
rummel
has every rite to say what he wants. Not every one should be a rusted on labor voter or we would be a one party society
Crikey Whitey,
I have fun with the Ms. Miss, Dr thing. I pick a different one every time. It always makes me smile when I get my mail!
Wot, bemused?
[I can’t find any indication of how the Greens view wheat de/regulation on their website.]
its going to be fun times when the Green side with the Libs to stop the deregulation of the wheat market.
rummel,
Vote 1 Sally!
The previous was Gary Nairn.
Crikey Whitey,
[Why should a woman’s marital or otherwise status have to be identified.]
I am quite serious: that’s the only reason I completed a higher degree 😉
Almost.
Joe6pack@3762
As do others.
[poroti
Posted Thursday, October 4, 2012 at 8:22 pm | PERMALINK
mari
Ah Ha so you be a Royal Stewart clan well well
On the less so good side they were religious loons that followed this guy nearly 200 years ago
http://www.broadrunit.com/RootsWeb/NormanMcLeod.html
After all this time in the small town the gaelic speaking Scots founded in NZ (via Nova Scotia) this still goes on.Very multicultural as Maori and Dalmatians are very much part of the mix.
Waipu Highland Games – New Zealand 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Bd0H8FZQY
Waipu Pipe Band parading in the Waipu main street
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exR5X-_cW7c
WAIPU HIGHLAND GAMES 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuQBK2Zg9Fs
But you have to admit there is some good stock in there, all those sea voyages each one I expected the boat to disappear, and he lives to 86, not bad really
SK,
U R soooo norty.
rummel, has it occurred to you that the reason there is no outrage about Williamson being charged, is that some of us, maybe all, think that if Williamson has been charged, he ought to be dealt with via proper process. Speaking personally, I was so dismayed by the HSU during his and Kathy, Abbott’s hero, leadership, I left in disgust.
[I am pleased that I did not. As is BB.
I am seriously dismayed that Rummel sought $ but not reciprocation.]
Im seriously pleased you did not as well. I happily got off my ass to raise money for a cancer charity because a friend found him self with cancer. This is on top of the 1000 of hours i put in a year as a volunteer. If you wish not to donate because i do not follow your type of politics your as shallow as you think i am.
Maryanne Demasi rocks.
Catalyst has so many Über-qualified presenters.
dave
Posted Thursday, October 4, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Permalink
[Joe6pack@3762
rummel
has every rite to say what he wants.
As do others.]
yep It is silly but he does have his rite to free speech
BB
He did not approve the settlement which is what you anticipated would happen. He decided what it was which was the dispute which kept the Cth Ashby thingie alive this week after the ‘settlement’ was announced last Friday.
settlements are contracts which the court is duty bound to uphold unless the terms are beyond the court’s power for example. Courts also resolve disputes about settlements which is what happened today.
When Williamson is dealt with by the courts there will be plenty to say, until then, I am not commenting. I don’t care which side of politics he comes from.
SK
Must say I do similar things.
Using my married name or hesitate to say, ‘maiden’ name.
On the other hand, I need to. People know me as one or the other.
Makes life easier.
Men rarely change their names, upon marriage. Nor does the Mr designation change.
ok maybe not 1000 but lots 🙂
[ rummel
Posted Thursday, October 4, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Permalink
WTF… Why are the libs not supporting the deregulation of wheat!. Who would have thought I would have to support Labor on deregulation. ]
Your all over the place tonight …..
[ rummel
Posted Thursday, October 4, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Permalink
its going to be fun times when the Green side with the Libs to stop the deregulation of the wheat market. ]
Joe6pack@3774
As others have.
Rummel does nopt seem to understand that millions of people were disgusted with Jones’ outburst.
That it was said in private doesn’t matter. It was said by a “public person” to a Liberal Party gathering.
Jones’ critics were looking to the Liberal party to say it wasn’t part of their operating principles to malign the PM in this way.
Instead the Libs (with a couple of honourable exceptions) supported Jones, pathetic and losing as that tactic is.
If the next Newspoll comes out with Labor in front, all hell is going to break loose as the entire basis of political commentary over the past 2 years falls into a hole. If not this Newspoll, then the next one or the one after that will show Labor ahead.
It’s going to happen some time soon. The whole myth of Labor being unelectable under any circumstances will be in the garbage bin as a result.
The Libs and their supporters have dug this hole for themselves, relying on polls only – snapshots of the relative race positions miles before the finish line – to support their claims of invincibility. It’s been a lazy, fact-free ride for them, and now it’s starting to look decidedly flaky, as one by one things start to fall apart.
It was all based on an immediate election, a “Home By Christmas” tactic that demonstrably hasn’t worked. That’s not opinion: that’s a FACT… it hasn’t worked.
In the trench warfare that inevitably followed, the quick counterpunch, the flashy three-word slogans and the collusion of the media (of whom Jones is a prominent member) have finally worn out their usefulness and their bite.
The more the Libs support jones the better, the MUCH better it is for Labor.
Keep it up Rummel. You’re doing Labor a favour. Keep digging those trenches.
Fiona,
There is a method to my madness. Depending on the systems scrubbing definitions, there is every possibility it won’t ‘match’ my data so systems assume I am two different people!
Fiona
I needed a recentish reference and asked my friend for one, for not only does she know me well, she had obtained her doctorate. Just because, in her retirement years.
I said I specifically wanted her to use her title. She was delighted. Had not had a reason to do so.
Space Kidette do you get the feeling Tim Wilson isn’t very well liked with his the Drum appearances, many thanks for your retweet of my” out of 22 million Australian you would think one other could be picked occasionally” tweet, got the most retweets etc I have ever had before
Toot by tooth , the pawl ratchets backwards for Abbott’s advantage built on short term, negative, destructive tactics.
Having lost it he cannot regaining by lifting the lever and applying costed policy action. More of the same just won’t do it!
How do you fancy his chances?
mari
[But you have to admit there is some good stock in there, all those sea voyages each one I expected the boat to disappear, and he lives to 86, not bad really]
The sea stories are amazing. In 1818 (?) when they left for Canada the first ship sprung a leak. Norman decided that it was just as far forward as back and decided to push on. Check out St Ann’s in Nova Scotia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Anns,_Nova_Scotia . When ,years later in Nova Scotia,there was a series of crop failures they hired and built their own boats and sailed for the Antipodes.One of the ships was wrecked on the coast of the US. The survivors went back and built another boat and sailed again.The main fleet dropped in to Adelaide and Melbourne . He declared Melbourne to be “Sodom and Gomorrah” . Gold rush was on 😆 .So he set off for NZ.
[The Rev. Norman McLeod preached a harsh gospel in which mercy and tolerance had no place. But his followers in Scotland, Canada and New Zealand regarded him as their saviour.]
http://ouraucklandstuff.freeservers.com/McCleodofWaipu.htm
crikey whitey@3764
Wot, crikey whitey?
Jones crossed the Ribicon, he can stand and fight , or shove off, either way he is disgraced damaged goods to liberals and radio.
My apologies if I have told the following story on PB before.
When I was offered a position in a Melbourne firm in the early 1980s, women in the law were still a comparative rarity. However, there was already a woman solicitor with my then fairly unusual first name plus my very common family name.
So I decided to get married to my long-term consort – and I have always asserted that the the only reason for the marriage was so I could change my surname.
Only four years later there was a Fiona + my changed surname on the legal block who also had an account at my bank branch.
mari,
I’m not sure what value they (ABC) deem Tim Wilson can provide. I NEVER watch him. I like the concept of The Drum but I am not going to watch sponsored, right wing propagandists ever.
I’m not surprised by the number of retweets. He is not popular or respected.
Toot = Tooth
Rubicon
BB
All you say is true and is really the feel now In my opinion.
Rummell should be allowed to express his opinion though, how ever wrong it may be
BK,
Abbott’s solution is ‘more, harder, bigger’ and I don’t think he is capable of anything else. Which is good because the harder he digs the deeper the hole.
SK @ 3782,
[Depending on the systems scrubbing definitions, there is every possibility it won’t ‘match’ my data so systems assume I am two different people!]
An excellent reason. I’m tempted: I’ve always wanted to be an Abbott, and a Bishop, and …
CW @ 3783,
That is delightful and your friend should have (and I am sure was) charmed by your compliment.
Joe6pack@3793
No one has said he cannot. And no one can say others cannot do likewise.
Shellbell:
[He did not approve the settlement which is what you anticipated would happen. He decided what it was which was the dispute which kept the Cth Ashby thingie alive this week after the ‘settlement’ was announced last Friday.]
Sounds like nitpicking to me: he picked one form of words over the other and stated why.
That’s his job – to try to settle things amicably, fairly and with less costs and time consumed in court – and both sides knew it.
What irks me more about this is that Ashby has unlimited money available to him, and powerful backers. A man on $150k salary can’t normally afford to run a case worth $50,000-ish, causing millions to be outlaid in legal costs in the process.
The judge’s comments re. Slipper earning enough to afford legal representation seem verging on the prejudicial to me. It wasn’t Slipper who brought the case on in unusual circumstances with unlimited resources. It was Ashby and his rich mates.
Joe:
[BB
All you say is true and is really the feel now In my opinion.
Rummell should be allowed to express his opinion though, how ever wrong it may be]
I don’t think anyone’s saying any different. In fact I invited him to continue.
Musrum, Dario, anybody else out there?
Could we possibly have a two minute period of grace in which to edit our spelling and/or grammatical errors even if we have used Preview? (which I didn’t – where’s the limp lettuce leaf?).