Sunday preselection snippets

Further dispatches to keep the ball rolling until the glorious day when paged comments return:

• Nicole Hasham of the Illawarra Mercury reports on possible successor to Liberal MP Joanna Gash in the southern NSW seat of Gilmore. The front-runner is said to be Shoalhaven deputy mayor Andrew Guile, a one-time staffer to Gash who is evidently not on good terms with his former employer. According to the report, the South Coast Register published a letter from Gash in August which criticised Guile for sharing a $1080 meal with other councillors at a Sydney restaurants at which various preselections were said to be discussed, including her own. Also named as a possible contender is Gash’s “close Liberal associate” Clive Brooks, who “owns South Nowra business Great Southern Motorcycles”.

• The Daily Telegraph reports Craig Laundy, “general manager of his father Arthur’s $500 million hotel empire”, has Tony Abbott’s backing for preselection in the central western Sydney seat of Reid. According to the report, “a senior Liberal source said Mr Laundy had been to see Mr Abbott, party president Arthur Sinodinos, state director Mark Neeham and moderate faction leader Michael Photios about his run for the seat”. He may face opposition in the shape of Dai Le, ABC Radio National producer and two-time state candidate for Cabramatta.

• Christian Kerr and Lauren Wilson of The Australian report that some in the Nationals camp hope the party might be able to poach the New South Wales seat of Hume from the Liberals if Alby Schultz retires as expected at the next election, by fielding Senator Fiona Nash as their candidate. One virtue of the plan is said to be that Nash is seen as “a possible party leader, a more stable alternative to (Barnaby) Joyce”.

• Similarly, the WA Nationals are said to be hopeful of winning Durack if the current Liberal member Barry Haase does not contest the next election, “as many predict”.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. It is a bit silly to concentrate on the backgound of the members/commissioners as PvO is doing now as a guide.

    Once the person affirms/takes the oath of office the political baggage is often left behind.

    Sir William Deane was the lawyer of choice for corporates involved in tax disputes but became as reforming a HC judge as we have had in the last 50 years.

    At the other end of the scale Peter Sams was a high level union official but a relatively conservative commissioner on the NSW IRC.

  2. Boerwar

    d

    [Thank you. So, the future of our nation is in the hands of the legal industry through the personages of Watson, Drake & Smith.]

    That was a piss-poor response.

    You asked a question & drake responded accordingly. You didn’t need to bring your prejudices to the fore in this instance.

    You’re a bad naughty boy, Boerwar.

  6. [Latika Bourke
    @latikambourke
    Howe says terminating the industrial action best serves avoiding economic harm to Australia. #Qantas]

  7. The dead in Afghanistan
    ___________________
    Despite all the talk Qantas have not killed anyone

    However a number of Australians died yesterday and many wounded some very seriously..in addition a US armoured bus was blown apart by a car full of explosives and one suicide bomber…much more of such to come on suspects
    One Maddie a Repugnant ,Sen Graham in Washington,now want a full scale attack on Pakistan…it’s a new call for another war..a big one

    …….and we are involved

    If Gillard/Smith and Rudd could stop Brown-Nosing
    Obama and act like Whitlam did in 1972-73 over Vietnam…Labor would win a few much needed votes…I know that in my family today talking over the dinner table at a family gathering ,we all agreed that Gillard could win some hearts if she pulled out of the conflict…but for the moment it’s the Greens for us all…on the issue of Afghanistan….and many feel the same way
    How many others here support my view?

    I dread Obama’s visit..it will be an orgy of sycophantic slobbering…at least we are not to have the awful Clinton woman,who seems like a reincarnation of Rumsfeld…
    …

  8. [I see that Catholics can now be the king or the queen.]
    No: a Roman Catholic can be the spouse of the Monarch. Roman Catholic as head of Anglican Church? – not a prayer’s chance!

  9. [Latika Bourke
    @latikambourke
    Howe says in a different context rights & wrongs of steps leading to tonight might be important but ‘frank choice’ under Act is economic.]

  12. [Latika Bourke
    @latikambourke
    Howe urges less examination of whether #Qantas overreacted and more about whether a termination or suspension would best avoid economic harm]

  13. [Latika Bourke
    @latikambourke
    Howe says a four month suspension still leaves open the possiblility of #Qantas locking out staff at the end of that period.]

  17. [Latika Bourke
    @latikambourke
    Howe says 4 weeks is not a long time to sort out this issue and there would be “unending escalating uncertainty’ for fwd bookings. #Qantas]

  18. Gilbert on Sky says the coalition’s comments on Qantas dispute are undermined by the absence of a coherent policy on IR.

    Sky have never bothered to chip Abbott in this way before; pretty much anything he says has been taken at face value, coherent Party policy or not. Why now?

  19. [Latika Bourke
    @latikambourke
    Howe is arguing that a suspension would just be delaying what’s clearly an acrimonious dispute that could very likely remain unresolved.]

  20. my say
    Posted Sunday, October 30, 2011 at 9:10 pm | Permalink
    [I am. Still curious as to why we have no liberal visits today at pb]
    You scared them off…

  21. BH

    [thanks poroti – thought I heard that. It doesn’t stop Abbott from saying whatever he wants to.]
    Of course.Heaven forbid that reality should intrude upon Tones mendacious world.

  22. [Latika Bourke
    @latikambourke
    Counsel for the Minister Tom Howe arguing for a termination says a suspension has ‘a beguiling a character of something interim.’ #Qantas]

  23. [leigh_howard on twitter is providing a dense stream of informative twitters from inside the hearing.]

    draje – he’s been fantastic all afternoon. Sort of compelling to follow it

  24. Politically suspension or termination is irrelevant. QANTAS will be flying again tomorrow arvo. The rest is fluff that will be forgotten.

  25. [Latika Bourke
    @latikambourke
    Howe says ‘there is a high measure of blockage to a resolution,’ and quotes Strambi saying ‘miracle’ would be required. #Qantas]

  26. In the UK…the Sovereign has to be an Anglican as they are then Head of the C of England…so now he/she can marry anyone they like…we might have a Mormon
    Consort…or even a Scieintologist

  29. [KeeptheBshonestKeeptheBshonest

    Rumour that Emirates have applied to run A380 service x 6 services between Sydney and Melbourne on Tuesday for Melbourne cup #Qantas

    15 seconds agoFavoriteRetweetReply]

  31. Uhlmann said tonight that the Vic or NSW Premiers could have applied to have the Qantas dispute go before FWA.
    If he’s right, Baillieu could have done more to protect the Melbourne Cup which is a huge drawcard for Vic tourism – but he chose to blame the Fed govt instead – of course – and let it drag on.

  35. my say
    Posted Sunday, October 30, 2011 at 9:23 pm | Permalink
    [Bemused. haven’t posted for nearly a week
    just little bits, with not much discussion]
    See… that’s all it takes.

    You have them bluffed!

  36. [I see that catcholics can now be the king or the queen.]

    As rua says, they can marry but I can’t see the head of the Church of England being a Catholic somehow, unless they dissolve the link between monarch and church. I can’t think of a reason why that couldn’t be done, however.

    If the British Parliament does change the Act of Succession, do we simply have to agree or are we (as Australia) just mentioned in the British act? Do we have our own Act that imitates the British one (perhaps when we made HM “Queen of Australia”?)

    We’ll probably be a Republic by then in any case so the point is moot.

  37. rua
    [To bed, to dream of Tony asking an IR question in the Reps tomorrow. Ha ha surely he is not THAT diumb?]
    Well, nor, surely, could he avoid the day’s cause celebre

  38. NSW and Victoria playing politics at the hearing, saying Cth should have taken the other (s431) option of terminating. In other words, the conservative O’Farrell and Ballieu governments are saying that the progressive Gillard government should have intervened in an industrial dispute to shut down the action of a corporation.

    Wierd times.

  39. Yes lizzie. , yes and they know, we would be quoting work choices effect, so I think they know
    That abbott has no clue, I also think noneof their shadow lot may understand the way ,julia has set it up now, why was reith advising. Qt may be very very interesting,
    How does the pm keep up this pace, she is amazing,

  40. [NSW and Victoria playing politics at the hearing, saying Cth should have taken the other (s431) option of terminating.]

    …and admonished by one of the judges for being ‘unhelpful’.

  41. I want to know, where is Eric Abetz?

    he is the shadow spokesman on IR – he should be all over this dispute, rather than leaving it to Reith and a reluctant Abbott, who is just going through the motions

    a quick Google shows the last peep out of Abetz was 2 days ago FFS -and then he was trying to stitch up a sinecure for a fellow traveller

    Surely there has to be some questions asked ** pops over to twitter **

    [Fair Work Australia president Geoffrey Giudice must not be replaced with “another Labor friend”, a senior Liberal senator says.

    Justice Giudice, who has presided over a number of significant cases as the inaugural president of the industrial relations tribunal, resigned on Thursday.

    The resignation will take effect from February.

    Opposition workplace relations spokesman Senator Eric Abetz said Justice Giudice was well regarded by “all stakeholders in the workplace relations area”.

    “The coalition wishes Justice Giudice well for the future,” he said in a statement on Friday.”

    He urged Labor not to replace him with “another Labor friend”.

    “With 80 per cent of the appointments under this government coming from trade union officials, one can only hope that Labor will use the opportunity of appointing a new president as an opportunity to balance the ledger and provide Fair Work Australia with some semblance of balance to maintain its reputation,” he said.

    Several FWA commissioners have union backgrounds, including former union leader Anne Gooley, former senior union official John Ryan, ACTU senior industrial officer Michelle Bissett and Australian Manufacturing Worker’s Union national president, Julius Roe.

    Senator Abetz has previously said the appointments undermined Labor’s claims that FWA was independent.

    Before he became president of FWA, Justice Giudice served as president of the Australian Industrial Relations Commission (AIRC).

    He was also a judge of the Federal Court of Australia.

    The Australian Industry group hailed him as “an outstanding president of FWA and the AIRC.”

    “He personally epitomises the fairness and justice of Fair Work Australia,” Ai Group Chief Executive Heather Ridout said in a statement on Friday.]

  45. shellbell

    [It is a bit silly to concentrate on the backgound of the members/commissioners as PvO is doing now as a guide.

    Once the person affirms/takes the oath of office the political baggage is often left behind]

    I’m not sure that that’s the case, as judges bring with them the baggage we all carry & that has to reflect their views & consequentially their judgments.

    But generally I agree with your assessment – the Mason Court being a good example.

    Once commissioned, they have almost, albeit within confines, carte blanche powers to impose their values upon society.

    But, that said, if one were to chose betwixt the executive and the judiciary, I’d invariably rely on the the latter.

  46. All this stuff about how Govts, both state and federal could have intervened before in the Qantas / Unions negotiations really seems driven by hindsight and opportunism.

    If the Feds had intervened by choice they would have copped a motza from the Fibs and their shills, brought IR into sharp focus in a way that would have implied a lack of faith in the FW legislation and probably escalated the dispute.

    And NO-ONE outside of those who planned this in Qantas thought that Qantas would ground everything with no notice. It really speaks of an agenda ranging far beyond negotiations between Qantas and the 3 Unions involved.

    I’d think the best outcome in the short term is a termination, 21 days for further negotiations, and and Arbitrated outcome if those are not successful.

    I suspect that will lead to Qantas spitting the dummy over the outcome of Arbitration as if it gets that far they will lose on some issues. Follow up the Arbitration with a Senate Inquiry to lay out ALL the circumstances.

    I still think this will be a massive own goal by Qantas management when its all sorted. Wonder if Joyce will keep his pay rise at the end of this when he’s unceremoniously turfed into unemplyment??

  47. [

    chriskkennyChris Kenny

    #pmlive many misjudging likely public mood. Twitter and airport vox pops not a good guide. Next days will show anger at unions. #Qantas

    2 minutes agoFavoriteRetweetReply

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    @Jsus1Jonno S

    @chriskkenny agree completely. Vox pops at airport of people angry…what do you expect them to say.

    1 minute agovia Osfoora for iPhoneFavoriteRetweetReply

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  48. If the ‘Unions’, had pulled Saturday’s grounding without 72 hours notice, what would the penalty have been?

    If Joyce is on a WorkVisa, and commits a crime he could be deported, yes?

    Game, Set, Match.

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