The Australian has published a Newspoll survey of 1134 respondents which finds 47 per cent of respondents want the rural independents to back Labor, compared with 39 per cent for the Coalition. There is, predictably enough, almost unanimous partisan support among voters for the party they supported which can only mean primary vote support for the Coalition has taken a solid hit since the election, at which they polled 43.7 per cent. Hopefully more to follow.
UPDATE: We also have another JWS/Telereach robopoll courtesy of the Fairfax broadsheets, this time of 4192 respondents, which has 37 per cent for Labor, 31 per cent for the Coalition and 26 per cent for a new election. However, on voting intention the Coalition leads 44.9 per cent to 35.4 per cent on the primary vote and 50.4-49.6 on two-party preferred, suggesting most of those in favour of a new election are Coalition supporters.
UPDATE 2: Full JWS-Telereach release here, courtesy GhostWhoVotes. I gather the poll targeted 55 seats with post-election margins of less than 6 per cent, and the vote results above extrapolate the swings on to the national results. On Coalition costings, 40 per cent of respondents professed themselves very concerned and 19 per cent somewhat concerned, with only 35 per cent showing little or no concern. People are more concerned about the Greens balance of power in the Senate (49 per cent say bad for Australia against 39 per cent good) than the value of the Labor-Greens alliance (opinion evenly divided). Julia Gillard only just shades Tony Abbott as preferred prime minister, 43 per cent to 41 per cent, and respondents are evenly divided on which party would prove more stable and competent.
blue green
😆 I’m waiting for our William to form the PB Party so we can whip this sad excuse for a country into shape 😉
Scary, hope all is okay.
Well Joyce called the election for Labor on election day. Nobody outside the leadership team will have a clue which way the independents are leaning.
How can the independents maintain any source of credibility if they back the coalition given their dodgy costings. That being the case they should just get on with it and back the ALP and put us all out of misery.
Diogs, you should read Robert Hughes’s book on Bcn if you’re interested. He describes Gaudi as a Catholic ecstatic mystic.
Thanks Punna.
And for those who think Big Hat Bob’s mad, try this (from his Leichhardt neighbour, Warren Entsch) for fully rabid:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/independents-will-support-labor-party-says-coalitions-warren-entsch/story-e6frf7kf-1225914729133
Musrum
Not much chance of getting rid of Murdock if his Melb Storm getting away with rorts is anything to go by.
He didn’t really come to grips with much in those articles you linked spur. There was no great delving into the policies or costings.
and further to that OPT
“The way Tony is going, I agree with him completely. You only agree to what is achievable,” he said.
“There were certain things you can go along with, but when you start talking about some of the things (Bob Katter) is talking about, particularly in relation to trade tariffs, there is no point in even offering them because they are not achievable.”
so we can expect the new Opposition to accuse a JG government of reintroducing tarrifs presumably.
Bingo ! BK Me too 😀
Itep
Did you like the part of the article where Warren says Gillard will do anything to get elected.
The Rabbott on the other hand will only offer what is achievable.
😀 😀 😀
William there seems to be some sort of new Essential poll out
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/09/06/essential-voters-expect-another-poll-and-expect-the-coalition-to-win/
ALP 51-49
Why is Entsch going the dummy spit BEFORE the big announcement. Not a good look
so tone thinks it a achievable to give a billion dollars for a project that may only cost.
550 million
Still good. And the Fundacio Joan Miro is good too.
Andrew @ 3085
True, true. But he did comment on the ludicrous ‘audit’ scenario from memory. To my mind he tries to avoid politicizing from unknowns and concentrates on what’s out there. Opposition costings are notorious in their ambiguity no matter where they originate from. But I can well understand you being frustrated. Unfortunately, as we’ve just discovered our fellow Australians are diverse in priorities and thoughts. George is entitled to dictate the content of his articles as he sees fit… the bonus is, that what he writes has merit… and this is a good thing. That’s all.
Latest Essential poll is out
51 – 49 for Labor
Dr Good, that would make it 52-48 for the past week
What is Entsch even talking about? Robb already came out and said the Coalition could meet most of Katter’s list.
3073 BK
I am stressed enough without having to contemplate this.
vera
There should be a Royal Commission into this. We know News Ltd is up to its eyeballs.
Essential say THEY provided the most accurate pre-election poll?? Sorry, it was Newspoll, who by the way looks like it will be bang on the money
Most of the 52% wanting a fresh election will be rusted ons from both sides thinking their side will not form government.
I love frogs, have since I was a kid, when there were zillions, coming out after rain like delicious wild mushrooms. A few survived the drought in our sewer line; but we’ve had oodles of croakless rain this year. 🙁
Sophie B will offer some stress relief.
It’s either a personal dummy spit because Bob’s next door or he’s laying the foundation for attacks on the government to come. or both.
Makes sense, watch that number drop once a winner is declared
TPP at the moment
ALP 49.98- 50.02
LNP is about 5,000 votes ahead.
I expect that the normal counting of the 142 electorates will put the
Coalition even further ahead, say by about 13,000 votes. That is
ALP 49.95- 50.05.
Then, some of the remaining eight seats are a little hard to estimate
but my best guess is that the ALP will get a nett 31,000 votes from
those seats (down from over 70,000 for those seats in 2007).
Predicted Final result. ALP 50.13- LNP 49.87
(or ALP ahead by about 18,000 votes).
I’m not sure my sanity could take another campaign.
Why does the word ‘succubus’ come to mind…?
Sorry Rocket – we’re all a bit highly strung.
Dr Good, I read that out of the remaining electorates with less than 90% counted (8 seats excepted), 2/3 favour Labor. Why do you assume the coalition will increase its lead
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/09/06/lessons-in-competence-part-2-the-need-for-speed/#comments
Bernard Keane pointing out the Howard Govt. waste. Labor had heaps of answers to Abbott’s ‘stop the waste’ if only they’d had the wherewithal to use them.
Don’t worry yo ho ho. There won’t be a new campaign. There will be plenty of calls from the losing side’s supporters for a fresh election though 😉
I’ve already seen the first murmurings of it on here.
BG: toc toc to you too.
OPT: The frogs as well as being appealing are of course a reminder of why climate change and other environmental damage matters, they seem to be major canaries in our global coalmine.
And comparisons are odious!
If Bob does back Julia, his Green Power corridor & NBN “from Mt Isa to the sea” really do go marching through Kennedy, and he wins back some fishing rights for “Wild Rivers” in his electorate, the chances of Leichhardt going Indie and/ or Green next election will go sky high – it’s a volatile electorate with changing demographics.
Does First Dog visit this part of Crikey? His latest cartoon (which is free..hooray!) says it all.
The Interregnum comes to town http://bit.ly/bHLHC3
SPECTATOR – Touche – But they could have counted the smiles on their faces.
BH 3133
Indeed, sometimes the truth is the best defence, which becomes problematic when you get unfamiliar with using it.
Good old Mungo in crikey today – it seems more and more people are ganging up on the OO for some reason.
Great news about both FF senate conetenders falling behind on latest counts. I feel the courge of FF can be removed completely if they fail this time.
By next time seante reform will hopefully end the whole “microparties get 1.8%, rig ticket votes” scourge from our system.
I am not sure exactly where people get the information that an
electorate is less than 90% counted from. Certainly there are some
electorates with less than 90% of the enrolled numbers counted.
However, we have to be careful with that as ALP electorates may
be correlated with ones where not so many voters turned up to vote
(and also where there were less formal votes).
I looked at how many non-ordinary votes seem to be sitting there
waiting to be counted towards the TPP count in the 142 seats.
Thus I estimate the final total number for those seats.
I think there are only two seats with less than 90% counted:
Sydney 88.6% and Wentworth 89.8%.
The other thing to note in my spreadsheet is that it is mostly
postal votes that are still to be counted, maybe 200,000 postal votes,
100,000 early votes, 100,000 absents and 10,000 provisionals.
And postal votes often favour Libs even in ALP leaning seats.
Gecko @3093 75-74 in votes of no confidence. In this case Labor would win, just. In other matters the indies would split their own way. It may lead to an early election, but not immediately.
Dr Good, so what you mean is the postals in Lib held seats will increase the gap at a faster rate than the postals in the Labor seats will close it.
And probably not. There will be little incentive to go for an early election because it’d likely limit the next term in some way. I also think there is little chance for a DD as the next election.
Cud @3143
Yep. Do you happen to know when testing the house whether the speaker votes? Is there a speaker at this point?
calm before the storm
Psephos
I flicked through that book one afternoon, just reading the bits about Gaudi.
Hughes also wrote a brilliant book on Goya.
Gecko, electing the Speaker is the first item of business. The Speaker only ever votes in the case of a tie.
No Itep
I mean that even in a seat that favours the ALP like say Kingsford Smith
which is 55-45% ALP overall, the postal votes might favour the Libs,
as they do 55-45% to Libs in that seat.
Thus we have already counted say 93% of the votes in that seat and they
have been added to the national TPP total, but the if the remaining 7% of votes
are mainly postal votes, then when we add them then the Libs will
go further ahead.