Morgan phone poll: 53-47

I held off doing a post on yesterday’s unconvincing Morgan phone poll result in the hope they would give us a face-to-face poll this week, but either they’ve gone on Christmas break or are returning to their old pattern of combining results fortnightly. Yesterday’s effort was a phone poll from a sample of just 493 respondents, conducted on the back of a survey about climate change. The results were not unlike those of last week’s similarly dubious poll: Labor up a point to 42 per cent, the Coalition down 1.5 per cent to 41.5 per cent and the Greens down one to 9.5 per cent, with Labor’s two-party lead steady on 53-47.

Elsewhere:

Phoebe Stewart of the ABC reports Palmerston deputy mayor Natasha Griggs has been preselected as the Country Liberal Party candidate for Darwin-based Solomon, defeating three other candidates including Darwin City Council alderman Garry Lambert and Tourism Top End head Tony Clementson. Bob Gosford of The Northern Myth further writes that Bess Price, described by the Northern Territory News as an “indigenous domestic violence campaigner”, has nominated for CLP preselection in the territory’s other electorate, Lingiari. Price has the backing of Alison Anderson, Labor-turned-independent member for Macdonnell, and says she has “always voted Labor” in the past.

VexNews hears the NSW Liberals could dump Chris Spence as candidate for The Entrance early in the New Year. At issue is Spence’s comprehensive resume as a former One Nation activist: research officer to the party’s state upper house MP David Oldfield, federal candidate for Fraser in 1998, state candidate for Barwon in 2003, New South Wales state party secretary, national and state president of the youth wing “Youth Nation”, and ACT branch president and regional council chair.

Samantha Maiden of The Australian reports possible scenarios for federal intervention into the NSW Labor Party include replacing secretary Matthew Thistlethwaite with an administrator answerable to the federal executive, and stripping Joe Tripodi and Eddie Obeid of their preselection (respectively for Fairfield and the upper house).

• Nick Minchin told ABC Television on Wednesday that it would be “healthy for democracy” if restrictions were placed on television election advertising to reduce the costs of campaigning.

• The Labor national executive has endorsed Rob Mitchell for a second try at McEwen, to be vacated at the next election by retiring Liberal Fran Bailey. The court ruling in Mitchell’s unsuccessful legal challenge against the 2007 result saw his margin of defeat increased from 12 to 27.

Damien Madigan of the Blue Mountains Gazette reports the the state leadership change has inspired Labor’s national executive to delay its preselection decision for Macquarie, where Blue Mountains mayor Adam Searle is expected to be named successor to the retiring Bob Debus.

• Reader Sacha Blumen points me to a Wentworth Courier article from a month ago (see page 22) naming two potential Labor candidates for Wentworth – “Paddington veterinarian Barry Nielsen and Darlinghurst barrister Phillip Boulten” – in addition to Stephen Lewis, described in last week’s edition as a Slater & Gordon lawyer, anti-high rise activist and members of the Jewish Board of Deputies. Former Australian Medical Association president Kerryn Phelps has also been mentioned in the past. This week the Courier reports the Greens have endorsed Matthew Robertson, a Darlinghurst-based legal researcher for the Refugee Advice and Casework Service.

• Antony Green berates those of us who were “examining the entrails of the booth by booth results to try and divine some patterns” from Saturday’s by-elections, arguing such entrails are only interesting for what they tell us about “how Labor voters react to the Greens as a political party”. The conclusion is that “Labor voters in the ritzier parts of Bradfield seem more likely to view the Greens as a left-wing alternative to Labor than Labor voters in less affluent areas”. Antony has since conducted some entrail examination of his own to conclude that the resulting positive relationship between the two-party Liberal vote in 2007 and the Liberal swing at the by-election is unusual for urban electorates. My own post-mortem was published in Crikey on Monday.

• The NSW Nationals have announced the state seat of Tamworth will be the laboratory for its open primary experiment, in which the party’s candidate will be chosen by a vote open to every person enrolled in the electorate. The naturally conservative seat is held by independent Peter Draper, having been in independent hands for all but two years since Tony Windsor (now the federal member for New England) won it in 1991.

Robert Taylor of The West Australian has written an action-packed column on Labor federal preselection matters in Western Australia. It commences thus:

On the surface, the WA Labor Party’s powerful state administrative committee looks to have a straightforward job next Monday when it meets to approve candidates in crucial seats for next year’s Federal election. In typical Labor fashion, three of the candidates for the most winnable Liberal seats of Swan, Cowan and Canning are unopposed, the backroom deals having already been done between the factional powerbrokers to obviate the need for a vote and all the inherent dangers that accompany them. In Durack, where there’s an outside chance of Labor rolling incumbent Barry Haase in the redrawn Kalgooorlie-based electorate, former State Geraldton Labor MP Shane Hill is also unopposed, but that’s because he was really the only one who wanted it badly enough. In Stirling, where Labor has a second to none chance of rolling incumbent Michael Keenan, something obviously went wrong because two people decided to nominate against the favourite Louise Durack, but an upset is highly unlikely.

So the administrative committee had very little to worry about until last Thursday when the Corruption and Crime Commission released its long-awaited report on goings-on at the City of Wanneroo, which handed a couple of misconduct findings to deputy mayor Sam Salpietro and fired a salvo across the bows of Wanneroo mayor Jon Kelly. The problem for Labor is that Mr Kelly is the party’s hope in the seat of Cowan, held by the Liberals Luke Simpkins with a thin 2.4 per cent margin. Labor sees a combination of the local mayor and Kevin Rudd as an irresistible combination in Cowan and had all but pencilled in the seat as a win before last week’s report. The CCC made it clear that in its opinion Mr Kelly was prepared to curry favour with former premier-turned-lobbyist Brian Burke in order to further his own political ambitions. Mr Kelly argued both at the commission and since the report came out that he did everything possible to distance himself from Mr Burke, but put bluntly the CCC just didn’t believe him – which must make the ALP’s administrative committee wonder whether the voters of Cowan will either.

• Dennis Shanahan of The Australian has been in touch to point out an error in last week’s Newspoll post, which stated both Newspoll and the Nielsen poll were both conducted on the Friday and Saturday. Newspoll’s surveying in fact continued throughout Sunday, with The Australian releasing the result at the end of the day.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. [Page after page, on the Sunday Murdoch.

    Flick, flick. I tore it up, enraged. Oh. Hurled it into the recycle bin. ]

    Crikey Whitey – do what most of has have learnt to do – don’t buy it anymore.

    [ Ian Plimer award for the most misleading and deceptive use of a reference in order to aid an unsustainable argument!

    My wife wins one daily]

    Only ONE, TP – tell her she’s slipping!! We can’t have the Wives Union falling behind.

  2. I look at the ABC as being in the death throes of the RWDB.

    Slowly but inexorably the Howie huggers will be pushed out.

    In the meantime its is fun to spot the RWDB try to dressup stories

    Note to ABC:

    Even if you put lipstick on it ,it is still a pig

    HTH
    😉

  3. Adrian – case in point. This am ABC was saying the AMA was unhappy with Govt’s new plans for medicare payments. Sky Noos actually said the AMA was happy with it.

    I wondered what on earth was going on. ABC took the ‘glass half empty’ line while the commercial mob took the ‘glass half full’ line. Interesting!

  4. don # 927

    Dio@710:

    “cud chewer

    I actually agree with most of your post except I think you are a bit optimistic about geothermal, although it could be cheap if it works on a large scale.”

    Dio, you are wRONg again.

    In iceland they use geothermal to heat the streets.

    For A$1,000 one can fly the Tasman and check out NZ’s long-established geothermal power – and the NI’s magnificent volcanoes & geothermal district, and the forests, and the coastlines and ….

    Gawd! Ain’t just the greenies who are blinkered!

  5. [I am always perplexed that people actually fell for the religions these two people obviously invented out of their imaginations.]

    I used to think that, but you have to cast your mind over to what “conventional” Christianity (for one example) teaches us:

    1. Virgin Birth,
    2. Water into Wine,
    3. Physical resurrection from the dead,
    4. Loaves and Fishes,
    5. Praying to Mary McKillop cured cancer,
    6. The vanity and riches of the Church (any of them) when it teaches “blessed are the poor”,
    7. Silly hats and silly costumes,
    8. Heaven, Hell and Purgatory
    9. Holy Communion,
    10. Interference in politics almost everywhere on behalf of Christ

    …and many more.

    Thetans coming to Earth to fight the Final Battle are on about the same level as any of the above. As are God’s Prophets roaming the American West (with their wives). We’ve had 2,000 years to get used to the strange customs and beliefs of Jesus’s followers. But I guess we feel about Scientology and Mormonism about what Pontius Pilate felt about those pesky Jewish revolutionaries and their fake “King Of The Jews. In another 2,000 years we might think the Thetans are pretty acceptable to believe in, too, seeing as their return is just a variation on the Messiah concept.

    I guess we should judge them by their works. A lot of good has been done on behalf of Christianity and also a lot of harm. Mormonism, too has many good works to boast about. Scientology… I’m not so sure about. Perhaps someone can “enlighten” me?

  6. It’s really getting beyond a joke. You might as well sell the organisation to Murdoch and we’d notice precious little difference, and at least we’d be without the pretence of impartiality.

  7. LTEP

    disingeneous there sunshine.

    The allowance of wacko’s to voice their views unchallenged is for the commercial networks.
    A correction would have been nice.

    ps Boer one of the callers used the Boswell defence
    🙁

  8. Well I’m sorry to disrupt this train of thought, but actually this morning’s ABC report on Copenhagen was totally one-sided to the LEFT. It cited all the Green criticisms of Australia’s position as if they were facts, quoted Christine Milne at length, reinforced this with an unnamed “source” and allowed no-one to put a contrary view.

  9. Perhaps they didn’t have any/many callers in support of climate change. You have to consider the types of people that would ring up talkback radio of any type on a week day morning.

  10. [6. The vanity and riches of the Church (any of them) when it teaches “blessed are the poor”,]

    There is very good BBC Forum Podcast on the subject of Eternity (and how much?), morality and corruption:

    Podcast is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00551mg

    The Churches used to own up to 60% of the real estate in any given city or town.

    In this silly and quiet season, BBC podcasts are a heaven sent, wide ranging subjects and topics, always stimulating and interesting. More here and it’s free:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/worldservice

  11. Psephos, it doesn’t matter from where the criticism comes, just so long as it keeps on coming. They will give the Greens a voice, but only when it is critical of Labor.

  12. Adrian, I think that’s a bit too machiavellian. I think there is a strong Green cell operating in the ABC (just as there used to be a communist cell – it’s probably the same people, or their offspring), and their guy in Copenhagen is obviously a member of it.

  13. LTEP

    So if I ring up and say smoking is good for you and heroin relieves stress,then the announcer just lets it go to the keeper.

    Not on your nellie.

    Its the lack of Correction that annoys me not the wacko’s (who cant be saved anyway)

  14. Similarly if you rang up and said that John Howard, GB and TB are war criminals, and the state of Israel is something less than a paragon of democracy and peace in the world, see how far you’d get.

    Psephos, maybe so, but the only time I hear a reference to the Greens at all is when they’re critical of Labor policy. Maybe that’s all they ever say?!

  15. I suppose this will guarantee Berlusconi for another term:

    [Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi of Italy is recovering in hospital after an assault left his face covered in blood following a rally in Milan. He suffered two broken teeth, a minor nose fracture and cuts to his lip after being struck by a man wielding a souvenir model of the city’s cathedral.

    Mr Berlusconi, 73, tried to assure supporters afterwards he was OK. The alleged attacker, who has a history of mental illness, has been charged with throwing the souvenir. Massimo Tartaglia, 42, had no previous criminal record, police were quoted as saying. ]

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8410946.stm

  16. Don 935 and Ratsars

    [Bushfires are a natural part of the Aussie bush cycle. Not counting them is BS.

    Bushfires are releasing the CO2 they have stored since the last one. There is no net release of CO2.]

    The problem is that they want to count the carbon stored but not the carbon released. Of course wood stoves are carbon neutral, but they want to treat them as a giant sink. They ain’t, if the wood keeps getting burnt. It is a scam.

    To put it in some perspective, from Hadley Centre model figures I recall, each year plants absorb some 62 Gigatonnes of carbon from the atmosphere via transpiration of CO2 releasing O2 and keeping the carbon. Trouble is they release about 60 Gigatonnes back, meaning the net carbon storage for the planet from trees is only about 2 Gt per annum. In the northern hemisphere the main reason for the release is leaffall of deciduous trees in Autumn. Elsewhere it is trees rotting on forest floors and fires. Not counting the fires is, as I said, BS. They have to be considered in any net carbon storage figure for forests.

  17. A couple of year’s ago I was listening to Alan Howe trying to justify the Iraq war on 3AW. When questioned he described the deaths of civilians as “collateral damage”. This discussion took place on a show called “Sunday morning”, a show where all of the right wingers of Melbourne ring in agreeing with everything the right winger on the program says. So I couldn’t believe my eyes as I read this article in the Herald Sun today by none other than Alan Howe. Times have certainly changed.

    Did we give in to Bush?
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/did-we-give-in-to-bush/story-e6frfhqf-1225809967588

  18. Psephos

    Glad to hear about the govt investment into Geothermal research. Although geothermal as it would be applied in this country is not yet viable, that may change with more pilot plants. Same with solar research, which I support. Unlike CCT.

  19. The ABC this morning did not present a very sensible discussion on a complex, difficult and important issue.

    IMHO, it is highly likely that, globally, bushfires are acting as a positive feedback mechanism for AGW. But bushfires are not the only thing. There are bark beetles. In CO2 emission terms, the ones in Canada more than reversed all the things Canada did under Kyoto. All those decaying dead forests. In our patch, the MDB drought has killed thousands, if not tens of thousands of trees. As droughts get hotter this will become an increasing pattern across the globe. On the other hand, as some regions become wetter, they will be more and more capable of soaking up CO2 in newly-larger, or newly-created forests.

    Then, if we count bushfires and bark beetles, do we count what is happening in the oceans? Many countries have seas that are important in absorbing CO2.

    My point is that, technically, the area is very important, should be included but is highly challenging. One of the fraught issues is that new measurement challenges will rise every so often, after the fact, as climate patterns alter to accommodate the ever-increasing energy in the system.

    Some hypothetical examples that come to mind: soil fungi distribution will alter with rainfall and temperature changes. Some of this will result in large-scale forest death. As with bark beetles so with any number of ‘sleeper’ insects and viruses that are just sitting around waiting for conditions to tip to their favour.

    The ABC could usefully have gone through some of these issues and then related them in a testing way to the Australian position. Instead they have headed straight for the journalistic sludge.

  20. There is rather a bizarre assumption from some bloggers that listeners to ABC cannot sort wheat from chaff. Its not the job of a presenter seeking listener feedback to “correct” silly views of callers or to publicly agree with callers who share their personal views. Thats the difference between professional journalism and being a cheer squad for certain views (like some of the privately owned media).
    Overall the listeners/viewers of ABC are to the left of the national population. One of my criticism of many of the ABC presenters and listeners especially a few years ago is that they often seem complacent with their rather progressive views and didn’t like debating or even listening to alternate views. Being aware of and understanding the views of people with contrary views is the basis for successful political action. The experience of many people with the challenge of Hansonism was indicative of failure to have good understanding of political trends on the right. Instead of attacking them the ABC giving them some space to express their reactionary views was a better way to expose them.
    Privately run media such as owned by political parties or groups can go as hard as they like but the ABC must not.

  21. [There is rather a bizarre assumption from some bloggers that listeners to ABC cannot sort wheat from chaff. Its not the job of a presenter seeking listener feedback to “correct” silly views of callers or to publicly agree with callers who share their personal views. Thats the difference between professional journalism and being a cheer squad for certain views (like some of the privately owned media).]

    I agree completely.

  22. Yes the Gp’s are interesting. The government will pay them more for a longer consultation but we have a shortage of GP’s = even larger shortage of service. One thing that I don’t understand is that why they have made it such a long process to become a GP. Why would you be mad enough to do 12 years to be part of the RACGP. It could and should be 5 years med and 2 years GP.

  23. Forests churn CO2. So does grassland. Is there a difference and does it matter?

    The main difference is that that the forest stores more CO2 than a grassland over an equivalent area. So, if you start with grassland and plant it to forest, you are reducing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, even if a percentage of it continues to churn.

    Similarly, if you start with a forest and turn it into a grassland, you will increase the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, even if the grassland continues to churn some CO2.

    Thinking about it, bushfires increase the percentage of the forest CO2 that is churned.

    The critical thing in calculating quantities is overall time frame and the frequency of what are now quaintly called, ‘Fire events’.

  24. Oh dear. What can you say? The gift that keeps on giving…

    http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/work-choices-not-dead-yet-says-abbott/story-e6frfku0-1225810093994

    [WORK Choices is well and truly dead but may be partly resurrected, federal Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said.

    The Rudd government’s Fair Work Australia replaced the Howard government’s Work Choices regime in July.

    While new Liberal leader Tony Abbott has maintained “the phrase Work Choices” was dead, he also believed aspects of the old legislation should be reinstated.

    “I should point out that just because Work Choices is dead, it doesn’t mean we don’t still need a free as well as a fair labor market, and I would certainly like to see less union power than we have been witnessing under the Rudd government,” he told Macquarie Radio today.

    “So Work Choices is well and truly dead but there are some aspects, many aspects of the Howard government policies, until Work Choices went too far, that we do need to keep.”]

  25. [Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi of Italy is recovering in hospital after an assault left his face covered in blood following a rally in Milan. ]

    Had the Signore’s wife been working as a waitress at the Italian Parliament?

  26. [“I should point out that just because Work Choices is dead, it doesn’t mean we don’t still need a free as well as a fair labor market, and I would certainly like to see less union power than we have been witnessing under the Rudd government,” he told Macquarie Radio today. “So Work Choices is well and truly dead but there are some aspects, many aspects of the Howard government policies, until Work Choices went too far, that we do need to keep.”]

    Ho ho ho. Abbott just cannot get off this hook. If he says “We will leave the Rudd government’s IR laws in place,” why would anyone bother voting for him? If he says anything different, that will be seen simply as code for bringing back WorkChoices, which of course it will be. Everyone knows that’s what a Liberal government would try to do, one why or another, so there’s not much point in trying to deny it.

  27. [While new Liberal leader Tony Abbott has maintained “the phrase Work Choices” was dead, he also believed aspects of the old legislation should be reinstated.]

    I’ve always maintained that the only thing ‘dead’ about WorkChoices was the name. Howard killed that off before the election, hoping to pull the wool over the voters’ eyes that there was nothing to worry about.

    It’s as Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd have always said: the desire to impose SerfChoices on Australians is in the Liberal/National DNA.

    What with Abbott’s admissions, and Abetz’ past utterances, there is the makings of a huge scare campaign that, if deployed professionally, will neutralise the scare the conservatives are making about “Labor’s massive new tax” (ETS, being their own policy up until a couple of weeks ago, was also THEIR massive new tax).

  28. Vera 618

    [I’ve spent a nice Sunday arvo at Bunnings]

    Wash your mouth out with soap, girl. My OH just saw that and said ‘I’m gonna swap you for Vera’. I’m the bain of his life cos I won’t spend 2 hours in Bunnings with him!!

    You would have loved Fran Kelly’s interview with Barnaby this morning on RN – she went for him with a sledgehammer and the poor addled bloke didn’t know what hit him.

  29. [If he says anything different, that will be seen simply as code for bringing back WorkChoices]

    I just can’t believe he’s still giving it air though. He hasn’t got a clue.

  30. What’s next?

    I am God!!!!!

    [Barnaby: I predicted the GFC ………………………. Mr Rudd’s temper was proof he was “a selfish little boy who can speak Chinese. I’m so smart, just let me show you. I speak Mandarin. Well, woopdy doo, so do 1.3 billion Chinese,” he said…………………. He criticised Mr Henry for toeing the government line, saying Mr Stevens was “more honest” about the economy. “The fearless public servant I don’t think is what you’d call Ken Henry.”]

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sunday-telegraph/barnaby-i-predicted-the-gfc/story-e6frewt0-1225809741119

    yes, the gifts are keep on coming.

  31. BH
    My OH is the one who has to be dragged to Bunnings! He isn’t all that interested and just follows me around which makes me nervous 😯 so I hurry up and get my stuff and we go.
    If I go on my own I can be wandering around enjoying myself for ages 😀

  32. Windschuttle is up to his nasty old tricks cf the film: ‘Rabbit Proof Fence.’ His point is that Neville was not trying to breed out the Aboriginal race but was protecting the girls because they were having sexual intercourse with white men. [I note in passing that there is a documentary smoking gun about Neville’s real intentions that Windschuttle must know about, but ignores in this article.]

    The really intriguing thing about the article is that there is no discussion about the extent to which forced removal of Aboriginal children in successive waves of stolen generations was ‘forced’ on officials by white paedophile behaviour. I have seen text to suggest that (pre-penicllin) white men preferred Aboriginal girls over Aboriginal women because they were less likely to have STDs. There is no discussion by Windschuttle about why these men were never prosecuted. There is no discussion about what may have been, from the large numbers of girls who were removed for their ‘protection’, virtually customary rape of Aboriginal girls by white men. No discussion at all.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/rabbit-proof-fence-grossly-inaccurate-says-keith-windschuttle/story-e6frg6n6-1225809998531

  33. Well, I ain’t letting him read 987 Vera. It’s the exact opposite here. Boring Bunnings, I call it, but it’s the love of OH’s life, apart from his dog, i.e. I think I come next. lol

  34. Finns

    I see that Japanese are going to be killing 1,000 of your big brothers, the Minke whales in the Southern Ocean, weather and various pestiferous nuisances willing.

    Does this have a sort of cetaceous impact on your feelings? Are you in favour of a court case?

  35. One of the morning news, 10 or 9 I can’t remember which, in their Cophenhagen report had Abbott on about no need for ETS and it was his policy of better land management etc that one of the Oz delegates at Copenhagen mentioned.
    But they them showed Rudd doing a radio interview giving Abbott heaps, making him look stupid.

    I’ll have to see if i can find the Rudd radio interview on the net later.

  36. BB 957

    I think the cruncher that most people desperately want to believe in religeon is no 3:
    [3. Physical resurrection from the dead,]
    That is the psychological security blanket for which believers will put up with all the other nonsense. I have often thought there will be another big religeon vs science stoush in a few years when people realise what advances in research in consciousness implies for the possibility of a soul/mind existing separate to the brain.

    Since atheism doesn’t seem to be recognised as a legitimate belief system perhaps I” start my own religeon. I hereby dub myself Pope Cadbury I of the Chocolatarian Church. Religeous observances will consist of a shared eucharistic meal of chocolate and Barossa Shiraz. These expenditures should be tax deductible for all believers. I plan to worship daily.

  37. I thought Avatar was only that tiny little pic that says: “Hi, it’s me”.

    Wow, this looks like a bloody good movie for the silly season:

    [Avatar film review: blockbustepic – Words like “big,” “grand” and “spectacle” seem virtually blasé in the context of blockbuster filmmaking, an art form driven by audacious people bent on outdoing each other in sheer excessiveness. Since James Cameron invented cameras capable of making this movie, it seems appropriate to invent a word capable of reviewing it, so here we go: you might say that Avatar, which feels so grand it almost goes beyond blockbuster and beyond epic, is a blockbustepic. All its milestones may be temporary technological achievements, and as an experience it may infantilise the audience, reducing us to wide-eyed children rubbernecking at strange new sights, like the stunned apes in 2001: A Space Odyssey dancing madly about the monolith. But being there at ground level, ogling at the marvellous weirdness of it all, is an undeniably exhilarating experience.

    Avatar’s Australian theatrical release date: December 17, 2009.]

    Apparently, it is also very much anti war, anti Bush movie. It’s also gets over 90% in the Rottentomatoes rating. A must see then:

    [This is spectacle with soul, a film as unafraid to reference My Lei or the Trail of Tears as it is Edgar Rice Burroughs or Hayao Miyazaki]

    http://au.rottentomatoes.com/m/avatar/

  38. [I see that Japanese are going to be killing 1,000 of your big brothers, the Minke whales in the Southern Ocean, weather and various pestiferous nuisances willing. Does this have a sort of cetaceous impact on your feelings? Are you in favour of a court case?]

    BW, another Hiroshima.

  39. BH
    Yesterday all I got to see was the shadecloth aisle and once we got our purchase OH was heading for the checkout!
    We would have been in there 5 to 10 minutes tops!
    Off he went and was half way up the aisle, shadecloth under his arm, not waiting for me I had to yell at him “Hang on I want to look at the blinds!”
    Then I made a made dash to where the blinds were, OH reluctantly, slowly wandering after me.
    His heart wasn’t in it, I could tell 👿

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