Roy Morgan’s fourth published poll of the Rudd era has produced a result similar to the first two, after a slight improvement for the Coalition at the third. Labor’s two-party lead has increased to 62.5-37.5 from 60-40 at the previous face-to-face poll; their primary vote is up from 49 per cent to 54 per cent, with the Coalition down from 36 per cent to 33 per cent.
Ron at #99
Well remembered! He did mention Solidarity:
Kim Beazley Farewell Speech, reported in Sydney Morning Herald, 22 September 2007
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/in-departure-the-glory-that-was-missing/2007/09/21/1189881775006.html?page=fullpage
Out of interest, what are the appropriate HTML tags in order to turn a slab of text into a quote, bold or italics?
Thanks.
Frank C @ 98
In this bit on his page I think Brendan is describing not dogs, but his MP’s who didn’t boycott sorry day or read a magazine in the House:
“I love the fact that they’re gutsy, affectionate, low maintenance and less of a problem if you take them to a mate’s place. “
Gary says:
So that’s a fourteen month honeymoon now is it? 🙂
Of course this means even less than Morgans meant pre-election, but you’ld have to think that a poll taken post-Wednesday would be even better than this one taken pre-Wednesday…
ESJ. Mmmmmmmmaaaatttttttteeeeeeeee. This is getting creepy. That is your obsession with Jen.
Jen please be careful that he finds out no more about you or else your undies might start to disappear from your laundry line!
ESJ please get back to politics & STOP cyber stalking.
Generic Person at #102
Google is your friend (and red herrings too?)
Out of interest, what are the appropriate HTML tags in order to turn a slab of text into a quote, bold or italics?
[blockquote] quote [/blockquote]
[strong] bold [/strong]
[em] italic [/em]
with < instead of [ and > instead of ]
(if that sentence doesnt work I mean the triangular brackets on the , and . keys)
Hell Martin B , now we are going to get Howard’s speechs quoted back to us
We thought the nightmare was gone
Interesting.
Compared to first preferences at the election this poll says:
-FF have decreased by .5% to only 1.5%
-Greens have decreased by only .3% to stay virtually the same as before at 7%plus.
-“Others” seem to be about the same.
-Which means that nearly all of the massive increase of more than 10% by the ALP seems to have transferred directly from the Coalition [can one really call such a disunited group a coalition?].
And I suspect Rudd’s current approval rating would be through the roof and the ALP to have marginally improved even further in the last few days.
Double dissolution soon anyone?
I think not.
108 Don’t think so Ron, he’s never understood a word anyone here has ever told him.
Fred@109
good point re the DD option
at the moment the libs are like a little kitten chasing a ball of wool across the floor to one side of the room and back again.
Every now and again Rudd comes in and gives the ball a gentle push.
Why spoil the kittens fun. 🙂
Thanks Martin B
testing 2
testing 3
No 110
You never had the flair or clarity perhaps? 😉
true Steve ….but he’s testing as we speak !
People who love St Kevin of OZ
Me
Stolen Generations
Jose Ramos-Horta
Xanana Gusmao (what a big warm hug that was!)
and even the Dalai Lama
Dear Kev, good onya – Dalai Lama
By Mark Schliebs
February 15, 2008 06:36pm
KEVIN Rudd didn’t only win over Australians with his apology to Aboriginal people: he earned the praise of one of the world’s most respected spiritual leaders – the Dalai Lama.
The Dalai Lama was so tickled-pink with the new prime minister’s commitment to reconciliation, Mr Rudd’s office received a letter outlining the Buddhist leader’s approval.
“I was very encouraged to hear on the news about the apology you made in parliament to all Aborigines for laws and policies that ‘inflicted profound grief, suffering and loss’ upon them,” His Holiness wrote.
“Overall, this was a timely, appropriate and civilised thing to do.
“Although, of course, this is not a matter in which I have any direct concern, because you and I know each other, I wanted to tell you how much I appreciate this kind gesture.”
Vera you have clearly good taste & interllect !
Gusface , like a little kitten ?…..what happened to the rodent ..(s)
Fred/Gusface…does the Poll predict Senate numbers in a DD as the Libs have 37 to 34 over Labor there & without a DD it may take 6 years to reverse ?
Cheers Ron
114 [but he’s testing as we speak !]
Has been for years,
touche
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Even sorrier, do I feel. Having just caught up with today’s sorry. A sad Australian, humiliated and outraged at the use of her story.
Courtesy, Brendan Nelson. Again! Disgraced in his entrapped position.
Lifelines from Kevin will only work, if Brendan allows himself to be pulled across the divide, defying the attempts of his fellows on the opposite shore to drag him down.
They will not help him, up or back.
They care neither for him nor Australia.
Be rescued, Brendan Nelson.
Leave the Libs. They hate you.
You could lead an exemplary life. If you would just do itl
Aunty Fay you’re referring to Crikey ?
Kevin07 in his speech quoted a stolen story because HE spoke to her on Sunday
Brendon in his speech quoted a stolen story he had not spoken to at all and then took her fathers comments out of context to justify taking Aunty Fay away
It seems Brendon’s speech writer and/or researcher should be sacked
Ron no one Story of forced removal tells the entire picture IMHO. That episode in history is far more complex than is argued by the left.
Ron
the rodent has gone, i love pina colada’s like nobody else :0
leave the kitten playing with the the ball of wool-it cant do any harm outside the house
if by trying to lift our standards we can encourage others too as well then i say well and good
labor has given this nation its soul back and by its softly softly approach will smooth the way to a more open caring society that can intelligent discuss points of view.
not all will agree with everything but the chance to voice our opinion again unfettered by political dogma should lead us back to the pre-eminence and respect we once had on the world stage in so many areas.
Crikey
Brendan could do some good in the libs and actually may be able to inject a bit of culture shock before too late-otherwise its the long dark night of the soul…
As i indicate, Ron. Brendan should get out of his invidious position. Glen at 122 is reinforcing the point.
Gusface no matter how badly Labor ran Australia for 13 years under Keating and Hawke we Liberals never said that you’d taken away Australia’s soul.
And even when we apologise for the forced removals we’re again told we’re trying to take away the country’s soul get over yourself.
No 124
The woman is over exaggerating for no reason. What a ridiculous thing to say: “I feel like I’ve been stolen all over again”.
Glen, you’re an upstanding member of society. Hear hear to your words of wisdom.
but clearly not yet a full member of the ‘Hansonites’
glen
i voted for that !@#$$%^&&***((())(*&^%$#$@@@!@#$%$^&**(())(*&^%#@@!#$$%$ john winston howard and the !@!@!@$%^&*()())__)_+_+_(_*_)& liberals till Rudd appeared on the scene
so dont lecture anyone here or presume they are leftards or rightards.
admit your party was morally bankrupt and captive of extreme ideology and it will
energise both yourself and your party.
be open to why people voted as they did
what did howard do that made you cry with pride to be an australian
Glen – One doesn’t begin by pronouncing about the awful experience of others, either in individual, cases or generally. That’s what got Brendan into trouble.
When allegations are made, the first thing you do is you listen carefully and objectively to the people who say they were victims. Take their evidence, and a picture will emerge. This was done in the case of allegations of forced separation from aboriginal communities and reported on in detail ten years ago, and the picture certainly emerged.
Whatever you think, there are a lot of people who feel their lives have been trampled on.
Now, to say to those people as you are effectively doing, “But wait a minute, you are not entitled to feel the way you do, because the people who hurt you were well intentioned.” is grossly unreasonable on any moral level.
No 128
He waged war against mindless pathetic leftard bullshit. There you have it. Crude, but succint.
No 129
That’s because they’ve always been made to feel like victims through the policies of successive governments.
gusface.
I doubt very much that the Libs will learn the meaning of ‘soul’ anytime soon. They may begin to realise, over the next, say three years, once the Senate is again in the hands of the populace, that the people are interested, and that we matter.
And may be more so once the Government and the Parliament, in the first place, the Reps, are seen to be responsive to the, yes I know, ‘will of the people.’
Something of which is already in the air. I breathe, too.
i never said that but the fact is most removals were done by well intentioned people you cannot hide away that fact, it doesnt make removals for no reason any better they just make it easier to understand the situation.
Howard’s intervention in East Timor made me proud to be an Australian and helping to give democracy to the Iraqis and Afghanis as well just so you know Gusface.
“Howard waged war against mindless pathetic leftard bullshit”
and he lost !!!
and he lost his own seat !!!
and he has lost his political legacy now
and you have lost any culture…oh dear
Gp@130
your words give away your feelings
see the leftards and the rightards are both responsible for the aboriginal problem
to move forward in any area/issue you acknowledge guilt and take measures to ensure it doesnt happen again,this requires both maturity and compassion
and one word “sorry”
to wage war against mindless pathetic leftard bullshit you might as well use a kitten as a political party
enjoy the ball of wool
Glen – They were well intentioned people – they could easily have been members of my family. But with the benefit of a few decades they can be seen to have been wrong wrong wrong. Just as the White Australia policy, with the benefit of a few decades, can also now be seen to be wrong wrong wrong.
The term ‘well intentioned’ means nothing. The point is the EFFECT of the actions, well intentioned or not, on large numbers of people.
I mean the doctors who injected thalidomide into pregnant women at around the same time were ‘well intentioned” too. That doesn’t mean that the everyone should withhold sorrow for the children born with deformities.
Surely, you must get the point.
gusface then you must also be sorry for the left’s political correctness that has helped foster the current child abuse taking place in aboriginal communities.
Glen
“Howard’s intervention in East Timor made me proud to be an Australian and helping to give democracy to the Iraqis and Afghanis as well just so you know Gusface.”
pride in being a pawn as part of a regional geopolitical chess game?
we did what was required lab or lib it would have occurred
anything else?
Glen how has the left’s political correctness fostered the current child abuse? The right was in power for over 11 years and Howard won the ‘culture wars’ (for a while).
if it had not been for this fear of removing children from any circumstances we may have been able to protect some of the children who have and continue to be abused in some aboriginal communities but we’ve all be scared into doing nothing thanks to political correctness gone mad from the Left!
139
Chris in LDN
Howard won the ‘culture wars’ (for a while)
every sembalance of ‘howardism’ will be removed by Rudd
and Howard consigned to a historical oddity
Glen@137
childrens welfare is not new no
“The entrepreneurialism of Dr Thomas Barnardo finds an echo in many youth, community and voluntary organizations in which informal educators function. His methods – the use of outreach, the emphasis on education and training, and upon creating an environment where the well-being of the child or young person comes into focus are also familiar. He also professed a concern for the whole person (although just how he interpreted it is a matter of some debate). ”
this is from the 1870’s in england -the point being that it aint a “black problem”
the issue is that a GRAVE injustice occurred under fed gvt policy continously since in effect Federation (Nb i did not mention either party)
once we accept that simple idea then as a nation we can heal that dark part of our history
ps you know i have raved about canada before-check out their relations with their indigenes ,not perfect but certainly food for thought
Gusface #128,
That sounds familisr. In 2001, I voted for Howard because I didn’t want an inexperienced government just after 9/11. In 2004, I voted for Howard because the alternative was Latham. In 2007 – Kevin all the way. After WorkChoices, I vowed “I will never vote for the Liberal Party again”. Thus far, the “new and inproved” Liberal Party has done nothing to make me reevaluate my decision.
GP #130,
Having watched you and your opponents in action for some time, my considered advice to you is : grow up. If you want to sway opinions towards you, you are certainly going about it the wrong way.
Ron at 141
I realise that all that will removed by rudd. Part of what I liked about Rudd’s speech was his rebuttal of Howard’s arguments.
Btw, it was covered on the BBC’s main news bulletin fora bout 5 mins, which is more coverage than I’ve seen “international statesman” JWH get in the past 5 years. Even his visits to London were ignored by the press here, if I didn’t read Australian papers online you wouldn’t know he had even been. Which shows how ridiculous it is that QEII is our head of state. But that’s the next battle to be fought. 😀 And Kev’s just the man to do it.
Glen at 140
“we’ve all be scared into doing nothing thanks to political correctness gone mad from the Left!”
I can’t believe it’s not bull-butter…..
Mathew Cole
im ashamed to say it
but if its wasnt for Howard (and worstchoices) i would never have blogged. 🙁
so i suppose i owe him on two accounts 🙁
though i hope to redeem myself 🙂
Gusface…..you are forgiven ….we believe in compassion on the ‘bright’ side
145
Chris in LDN
Glen is still a JWT disciple but not a ‘jHasonite’ and so can be redeemed for salvation
No 146
Don’t worry, I shall be commemorating his forthcoming knighthood and have the pleasure of dubbing him Sir John Howard.