The usual weekly Essential Research coronavirus poll finds “only a quarter” of respondents now consider it too soon to be easing coronavirus restrictions, down from a peak of 49% in mid-April. There was also strong support for a range of fresh restrictions being imposed if there is a new surge of cases, but not for making the coronavirus app compulsory, which only 38% supported. Only 45% were confident the government would be able to adequately protect data from the app, and 44% were confident the government itself would not misuse it. Kristina Keneally’s call for a reduction in temporary migration after the pandemic had the support of 67% of respondents. All this detail is derived from The Guardian, which also tells us that the number of respondents who are “quite concerned” about the virus is up three points since last week to 49%, but without the “very concerned” figure it’s hard to know what if anything to make of that. The full report from the pollster should be published later today.
UPDATE: Full report here. The government reaches new heights on the eighth weekly iteration of the question as to how well it is handling the crisis, with good up five points to 71% and poor down one to 13%. The goodwill extends to state governments, who are collectively up three on good to 73% and steady on poor at 12%. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1067.
GG
With only one nomination was a ballot of the membership held, or was Albanese simply endorsed by the caucus?
If a membership ballot was held, did it contain the option “seek another candidate”?
Player One @ #1950 Thursday, May 14th, 2020 – 10:04 pm
And Adam Bandt.
Pegasus @ #1956 Thursday, May 14th, 2020 – 10:09 pm
So let’s talk about the Greens fucking up a progressive move to a Democratic process for electing their Leader.
The Dutch Military Order of Willem, what a blasphemous insult it is.
The Dutch Order of the Netherlands Lion, another blasphemous insult.
We get the P1 cross every night!
nath says:
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The successful delivery of a few projects does not relieve a government of the responsibility not to waste Billion of dollars on a lazy and ill thought out project.
Since Bolte the Victorian Liberals have the solution down pat, do nothing. In NSW they have taken it one step further, pull shit down.
And what has our contribution to policy discussion been, ” I hate shorten”, mate it gets boring.
On reflection, “the desalination plant was a waste of money” is big progress for you, you have at least thought about an issue.
GG
Can I assume by your deflection and unwillingness to answer two simple questions, Albanese was elevated to Labor leader via an undemocratic process?
Greensborough Growler @ #1952 Thursday, May 14th, 2020 – 10:09 pm
Who gives a rats about Adam Bandt? Other than you, apparently?
I actually give a rats about Labor.
Greensborough Growler @ #1955 Thursday, May 14th, 2020 – 10:14 pm
You may aspire to it, but you are yet to deserve it.
Of course boerwar would hate this cosmic blasphemy:
Pegasus says:
Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 10:09 pm
GG
With only one nomination was a ballot of the membership held, or was Albanese simply endorsed by the caucus?
I would have thought with the recent Green fiasco the Greens would moved to a new subject.
”The successful delivery of a few projects does not relieve a government of the responsibility not to waste Billion of dollars on a lazy and ill thought out project.“
Like pulling down and rebuilding perfectly good stadiums. Like tearing up a perfectly good heavy rail link to NSW’s second city to replace it with a dinky little tramway running 100 metres South. It’s a myth that right wing Governments are good money managers. They throw money at people and projects of which they approve or at least will help them getting re-elected, while starving funds from constituencies and projects they don’t like. Every dollar spent on a public school or public health or the environment is a dollar that can’t be given to a Liberal mate, an elite private school or a wealthy publicly funded superannuant.
Peg, leadership positions were spilled after the election loss in 2019.
Albo was the only nomination. If there had of been more, there would have been a democratic process – inclusive of the membership.
The gReens however, the dozen or so parliamentary ones that is, choose one of their own. Membership don’t get a look in. How good is that?
It is, as always, quite telling how many Labor partisans here are determined to make the debate about the deficiencies in the Greens, as a means of diverting the debate from the deficiencies in their own party 🙁
This is the essence of the “Labor/Green” wars.
sprocket
So the Labor membership had no voice. Not so different then.
Why was there only one nomination in the end and hence no ballot of the membership?
The Labor / Green wars are back? Don’t mention the Virus.
Player One @ #1963 Thursday, May 14th, 2020 – 10:16 pm
Labor have grown up and moved to better pastures.
We don’t worry about complaintive cows moooing and promulgating what must be done. We milk them for all they have and gently sidestep their bullshit.
Steve777 @ #1966 Thursday, May 14th, 2020 – 10:25 pm
They never went away for some people 🙁
Henry Lawson drank excessively for a fairly obvious reason.
FFS!
Pegasus @ #1970 Thursday, May 14th, 2020 – 10:23 pm
So, how would the Greens have sorted a contested situation?
Pegasus
says:
Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 10:23 pm
sprocket
So the Labor membership had no voice. Not so different then.
Why was there only one nomination in the end and hence no ballot of the membership?
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After the NSW Right decided to back Albo it wasn’t possible for another contender to win. Factional politics decided the leader.
P1 @ 10:21pm
Spot on. And often with the obligatory abuse, derision and/or denigration thrown into the ring by a few uncivil wannabe headkickers.
Player1 wrote:
Lesson #01 with Centrelink is that as soon as they see a set of company accounts mixed up with a dole application it goes into the Pity Pile: as in “No Pity”.
I know you think I’m having a go at you, P1, but I’m not, really.
Listen to the advice I give you. It’ll stand you in good stead. I’m doing you a favour, P1.
Divest yourself of anything and everything that even reminds a bored Centrelink assessor of some kind of clever corporate structure.
Divest yourself of ego, self-worth, dignity and anything that even obliquely looks like the vague appearance of prosperity or aspiration.
YOU may not think your business setup clever. YOU may not believe you aren’t doing anything different to what the B&B next door is doing. YOU may believe that your business is a vital part of the regional economy. YOU may believe that the accountant you pay thousands a year to, to handle your various tax and deduction structures, is a genius. But, if you refer to him or her as “our accountant”, score -1 demerit.
None of the above means shit when it comes to Centrelink.
Centrelink decides. Centrelink hears the appeals. Centrelink dismisses the appeals. Centrelink is in charge.
Get that through your head first.
You can insult me personally all you like. Call me a racist and a bully. Tell me I’m pathetic when I even bother to deny it (as if denying it proves the allegation out of the box).
But – welcome to the REAL Real World: Centrelink doesn’t give a shit what you think of THEM. They can play with you like a cat plays with a mouse; as long as it takes for you to realise who’s boss. Your words and protests are useless against them. They actually make their day. To them you’re just another South Coast smartarse with a business structure that looks dodgy, another wannabee wealth concealer with a sharp accounrant who thinks they’ve lucked onto a good tax dodge and is into every lurk going.
You’re crying poor now. You may even BE poor, P1. Do you think Centrelink gives a rat’s arse? I’ll answer that: they don’t. For every sob story you think you’re the centre of, they’ve heard a million others, each more deserving than you.
The first thing you need to do is become a person. Not a company or sole trader fronting for a person. Not a tax minimizing corporate entity. Not a vital part of the South Coadt tourism infrastructure. A person. Preferably a broke person who has no other recourse but to beg for the dole.
If you’ve got too much pride for that, you can whinge and bitch all you like. Calling me names here on this blog won’t help you. Writing angry letters won’t do you any good. It won’t change Centrelink’s mind.
You have to hit rock bottom, and convince Centrelink you’ve done that, or else you’re fucked.
Handy Hint: ditch that accountant.
The deficiencies of the Greens’ internal processes are profoundly uninteresting to me. Actually, so are those of the NSW Labor right.
nath
I know that was the case. Just drawing it out of GG, Sprocket….
Labor’s notion of democracy is another person’s notion of anti-democratic processes.
The former is an illusion and a stitch-up when the candidates are decided behind closed doors before the membership even gets to vote.
The 2013 ballot…2 candidates only …If I had been a Labor member I wouldn’t have voted for either of them. It was the wrong choice then….
This is better than Master Chef with a very frumpy looking Katy Perry.
Well, I know it’s not midnight yet, but I have discussed it with the stewards, and we are prepared to call it …
The “Funniest Post of the Day” goes to BB for his gem at 10:29pm.
Not just funny, but smug, superior, sanctimonious and offensive – all in the one post. It just doesn’t get any better than that!
Taking the degree of difficulty into account, we are scoring it as a 9.5. If BB could have worked the ‘racism’ angle in there it might have made a perfect 10, but hey – you can’t have everything, and at least this way he still has something to shoot for tomorrow!
Thank you linesmen, thank you ballboys.
P1, my wife had $20 in an account she opened in 1999. It was to benefit her newly-born grandson… a gesture. It sat there with the one single transaction for 21 years. No interest. No charges. No activity at all. Her mistake was to call it an “investment” account.
It took Centrelink 18 months to inform her that THIS was what held up her part pension and Health Card application. They were, in the end, demanding the grandsons tax details and a certified report from the bank over the status of the account. $20 DOLLARS!
We only found this out when we finally met the one human being employed at Tuncurry NSW Centrelink, who actually looked up the file, made two phone calls right there in front of us, and sorted out the problem on the spot. I won’t mention her name, but in these parts this lady is a legend.
Get that chip off your shoulder. Stop blaming me for your problems. Centrelink, like the coronavirus, doesn’t give a damn if you think I’m a deadshit. It doesn’t matter to them. They’ll just move onto their next victim.
Play smart. Get humility. Quit bitching and moaning. Get in the car and see if YOU can find your own human being at the nearest Centrelink office. You might get lucky.
But realise this: the world does NOT owe you a living. Being better, more deserving, more morally superior than other people doesn’t count for zip with Centrelink. You may find this hard to believe, but they don’t care about you, or think you’re special.
Bushfire Bill @ #1980 Thursday, May 14th, 2020 – 10:52 pm
Sorry, BB. We can’t carry over entries once you have already won.
Please repost your drivel tomorrow if you want to win again.
Well, if you thinks it’s so pompous, forward it to Centrelink. See if it changes their mind.
“Hey, Centrelink, this guy was pompous and arrogant about me on a blog. Therefore: GIMME MY MONEY!”
I await their reply.
Well, you deserve what you’ll get: exactly nothing.
It’s no good poking fun at me. Anyone who’s tried to get a business structure past Centrelink will tell you the same thing: you’re nobody, unless they say you are.
You’ll learn the lesson for yourself. An acknowledgement when you do would be nice, but I won’t hold my breath.
You are JUST the type that Centrelink LOVES to take down, P1.
Meanwhile in the real world…
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/new-zealand-thailand-report-zero-new-coronavirus-cases
Pegasus @ #1942 Thursday, May 14th, 2020 – 7:58 pm
That’s how Bandt became Greens leader, wasn’t it? 😆
Steve
Its a sign of just how complacent we have become that PB is back to its usual diet of political inanities.
The future direction of the country hangs on a thread and everyone is either complacent or overly trusting of the “authorities”.
BinTB
None of the other greens fed parliamentarians, all 10 of them, wanted to be leader.
There was a contested vote for the other co-deputy position, which featured senators Nick McKim, Sarah Hanson-Young and Mehreen Faruqi.
There were several aspirants to be Labor leader. None of them made it to the close of nominations. Why was that?
CC
“everyone is either complacent or overly trusting of the “authorities”.”
“Everyone”? And you can state this with such absolute certainty because….
I am neither of these 2 binary choices….there goes your “everyone”.
Peg you’re obviously an exception to every rule…
Hey, I understand Cameron Dick has promised to bring in some experienced help if he becomes Premier.
He’s looking at asking Ed Balls to come over from the UK and be Treasurer. And get Richard Face out of retirement in NSW.
I’m looking forward to the Dick Face Balls administration.
Pegasus @ #1993 Thursday, May 14th, 2020 – 9:21 pm
😆 😆
I’ve a bridge for sale.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/more-than-half-of-australians-with-symptoms-not-tested-for-covid-19-20200513-p54sic.html
In other words, NSW Health needs to go to the next level in getting people to get tested.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/new-zealand-borrows-big-and-spends-hard-to-counter-job-losses-20200514-p54t28.html
The Libkin are whinging about Labor for the zillionth time. Really, who could care less!
CI
I don’t. I have better things to worry about right now.
New thread.
“The Labor / Green wars are back?
They never went away for some people ”
I’ve got PTSD from them and I wasn’t even a combatant.
Sorry Cud I’m not an everyone either. We are kidding ourselves if we think the worst is over.