Federal polls: YouGov and Roy Morgan (open thread)

The fortnightly YouGov poll for Sky News reports improvements in Labor’s primary vote and Anthony Albanese’s personal standing.

The fortnightly Sky News Pulse poll by YouGov has Labor up three points to 30%, the Coalition up one to 21%, One Nation down three to 24% and the Greens steady on 14%. Labor’s two-party lead over the Coalition is unchanged at 54-46, but is much improved against One Nation at 57-43, out from 53-47. Anthony Albanese is up two on approval to 40% and down three on disapproval to 54%, while Angus Taylor is steady on 38% and down one to 42%. Albanese’s lead over Taylor on preferred prime minister is out from 44-39 to 45-36, and his lead over Pauline Hanson is out from 50-39 to 54-35. The poll was conducted last Tuesday to this Tuesday from a sample size unspecified in the report, which was likely around 1100 (UPDATE: It was actually 1500, as is typical for this series).

The weekly Roy Morgan poll has Labor steady at 29.5%, the Coalition up one-and-a-half to 24%, One Nation down one to 21.5% and the Greens down one to 13%. Labor’s lead on respondent-allocated preferences is unchanged at 54.5-45.5, while its lead on previous election preferences is in from 54-46 to 53-47. The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1681.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Holdenhillbillysays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 10:30 am
    Someone quietly placed a massive $920 million crude oil short at 3:40 a.m. ET this morning. Just 70 minutes later, Axios reported the U.S. and Iran were close to a 14 point deal to end the war. Oil prices crashed, and someone made a fortune. The golden age of corruption.

    Gangsters are governing the US.

    We haven’t got our heads around that yet.

    Stand over tactics, extortion, violence, thuggery et al…

    The truly scary thing is our Govt looks away… BAU.

  2. Clearly the overlapping issues around gas are a bit complicated for the media to follow.

    For starts, in terms of ranking of “political bravery”, reservation is a bigger deal than taxation because it is denying the actual molecules from other countries.

    Of course, the ABC fails at the first hurdle – the “announcement comes just weeks after the government killed off a campaign to increase taxes on gas giants” is not correct, the announcement was way back in November:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-22/government-confirms-gas-reservation-plans/106170082

    Ie, before the war stuffed everything up and made liquid fuel imports priority alpha 1.

    Decarbonisation is nice, here are some examples:

    https://thenightly.com.au/business/chemical-maker-qenos-sent-to-administrators-with-hundreds-of-jobs-in-limbo-c-14347752

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-12-06/helium-production-ends-in-darwin-santos-gas-supply-exhausted/103186220

    Here is how that is turning out:

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/manufacturing/global-plastics-supply-chain-crisis-threatens-thousands-of-everyday-products/news-story/3a6242df06e4848d14d968e1576ef078

    https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/hormuz-blockade-puts-asx-helium-stocks-in-the-spotlight-20260506-p5zuc9.html

    So we will see what the actual reservation numbers are and estimates of price impacts.

  3. Victoria, Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 10:36 am:

    This was on twitter going by the handle common sense.

    I always believed Trump was a Bona fide traitor and Melania his handler.

    This tweet makes the case.

    Something is happening to America that is slow, systematic and deadly. Trump is killing America, and it’s deliberate.
    1: Trump killed NATO partnership, our strongest defense alliance against Russia and China
    2: trump’s HHS Secretary is killing our public health infrastructure, creating a more sicker and vulnerable America with communicative diseases
    3: over at the pentagon trump’s frat boy Petey is firing our most qualified generals, depleting our best military hardware rapidly, in a stupid war to make our military a third world level armed forces
    4: trump’s DOGE deliberately hollowed out our government from essential experts, to zap its functioning capabilities
    5: trump killed USAID, and we lost our goodwill around the world and became isolated pariah
    6: trump ICE became his brown shirts, killing
    And abusing Americans to obey
    7: trump’s weirdo FBI director is charging everyone and anyone to silence Americans
    8: trump National security, the skunk looking girl, is dismantling our intelligence, making America vulnerable to terrorists
    9: trump’s interior secretary is dismantling our national parks
    10: trump’s economic team of Bassett and lutnick is crashing the economy, creating a population of economically needy
    11: trump’s Epstein files that now every country have a copy of for blackmail
    12: finally and most importantly, trump
    And his family and his oligarch enablers are looting our treasury, and stuffing our tax dollars into their pockets.

    Now tell me, you don’t think trump is a foreign agent, disguised as the president of the U.S, installed to destroy the US? Could it be that fuck Putin who owns trump’s ass? Drag this enemy of America out of the White House. That foreign escort Melania too.

    Victoria – first, I hope I assigned the correct blockquotes to the correct parts of your post. Apologies if that last paragraph was, in fact, yours.

    Secondly, I completely agree with the premise of this post: that only by accepting that Trump is, in fact, a Russian agent, do his actions since January 2025 make any sense.

    Thirdly, I completely agree with those last two sentences, in particular.

  4. This Iran ‘war’ is about profiteering & insider trading.

    While the rest of us go under financially.

    It is happening in plain sight.

    Maddening that it is not being stopped. Grrrrr

  5. Newy boy

    The only part of the post that is mine, is above the line.

    All the rest is by the handle common sense.

    I concur with its content.

    It’s all happening before our very eyes.

    Trump is being financially rewarded for his actions.

    He is a Bona fide traitor.

  6. President Donald Trump’s abrupt reversal on his plan to help ships go through the Strait of Hormuz came after a key Gulf ally suspended the U.S. military’s ability to use its bases and airspace to carry out the operation, according to two U.S. officials.
    Trump surprised Gulf allies by announcing “Project Freedom” on social media Sunday afternoon, the officials said, angering leadership in Saudi Arabia. In response, the Kingdom informed the U.S. it would not allow the U.S. military to fly aircraft from Prince Sultan Airbase southeast of Riyadh or fly through Saudi airspace to support the effort, the officials said.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trumps-abrupt-u-turn-plan-re-open-strait-hormuz-came-backlash-allies-rcna343845

  7. Problem for PP who already has them at wiped out. Once a so called ‘much higher level’ of bombing occurs what new status will PP assign them?
    ————————————————–
    More bigly wiped out?

  8. Are Trump’s so called peace deals about trying to create peace or more about creating stock market trading opportunities?

    Hence why English literature’s most charismatic bowl of petunias had this to say: “Oh no, not again”

  9. This report makes a fair bit more sense than some of the reporting around the negotiations.

    The one pager is to be an MOU which sets the agreed terms for a 30 day negotiating period.

    Signs of good faith in the negotiating frame are mooted to include both sides lifting their respective blockades.

    There are some promising things here, IMO. The first is that it mutually escalates the ceasefire into something more formal and which contains at least some progress towards mutual agreement.

    Re-opening the SoH, even for a month, would be useful.

    It enables Trump to declare victory and walk away with his honour intact.

    There are reports that one sticking point may be that the Iran side is having difficulty reaching agreement within its ranks about the possible MOU outcomes.

    Netanyahu, who is the key player, is not mentioned in any of the reporting about the negotiations. He will resume hostilities at any time that suits him and may well have bombed Beirut in order to disrupt the MOU negotiations.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/06/another-day-another-pivot-as-trump-flails-in-an-iran-trap-of-his-own-making

  10. Holdenhillbilly says:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 10:57 am

    President Donald Trump’s abrupt reversal on his plan to help ships go through the Strait of Hormuz came after a key Gulf ally suspended the U.S. military’s ability to use its bases and airspace to carry out the operation, according to two U.S. officials.
    Trump surprised Gulf allies by announcing “Project Freedom” on social media Sunday afternoon, the officials said, angering leadership in Saudi Arabia. In response, the Kingdom informed the U.S. it would not allow the U.S. military to fly aircraft from Prince Sultan Airbase southeast of Riyadh or fly through Saudi airspace to support the effort, the officials said.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trumps-abrupt-u-turn-plan-re-open-strait-hormuz-came-backlash-allies-rcna343845

    Wow!

  11. Holdenhillbillysays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 10:30 am
    Someone quietly placed a massive $920 million crude oil short at 3:40 a.m. ET this morning. Just 70 minutes later, Axios reported the U.S. and Iran were close to a 14 point deal to end the war. Oil prices crashed, and someone made a fortune. The golden age of corruption.

    I have never seen or heard of a more corrupt POTUS in my life. We are seeing corruption “like never before”

  12. While some find inspiration from the writings of Sun Tzu. It is believed Trump’s inspiration for his current actions in SoH is from this piece of profound literature.

    “Open shut them, open shut them
    Give them one almighty whack
    Open shut them, open shut them”

    From the Playschool edition of the Art of War.

  13. Boerwar says:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 11:15 am

    Holdenhillbilly says:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 10:57 am

    Just thinking this one through… trying to figure out why… follow the money… the Saudis are exporting through the Petroline something like two thirds the rate of what they were exporting on Feb 28.

    But, in the real world, they are getting close to double the price… … in turn this depends on the Saudi’s competitors locked up in the Gulf…

    So why tempt the Iranians to send a couple of ballistic missiles into Yanbu and destroy most of Saudi Arabia’s current oil income?

    Ka-ching.

    It actually suits the Saudis to maintain the status quo, financially. The Saudis may have sent a back channel signal to the Iranians that they would suspend US overflights if the Iranians agreed to leave Yanbu alone.

    All guesses on my part…

  14. Holdenhillbillysays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 10:57 am
    President Donald Trump’s abrupt reversal on his plan to help ships go through the Strait of Hormuz came after a key Gulf ally suspended the U.S. military’s ability to use its bases and airspace to carry out the operation, according to two U.S. officials.
    Trump surprised Gulf allies by announcing “Project Freedom” on social media Sunday afternoon, the officials said, angering leadership in Saudi Arabia. In response, the Kingdom informed the U.S. it would not allow the U.S. military to fly aircraft from Prince Sultan Airbase southeast of Riyadh or fly through Saudi airspace to support the effort, the officials said.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trumps-abrupt-u-turn-plan-re-open-strait-hormuz-came-backlash-allies-rcna343845

    I don’t understand this supposed action by Saudi Arabia. Can someone explain how “Project Freedom” is disadvantaging Saudi Arabia.
    Isn’t it good that US war ships are escorting Tanker ships out SOH?

  15. Wrt the Gas Reservation Scheme, last year’s Gas Market Review recommended that the current arrangements where the three exporters who control 90% of east coast 2P gas reserves are required to offer uncontracted gas to domestic buyers is replaced with an obligation to supply gas to the domestic market at an affordable price before export permits are granted.

    There was no mention in the Review of a specific % that needs to be reserved. 15-25% was mentioned in the presser, I suspect as one of those shiny objects that are used to distract lazy journos. I expect the same tactic to be used later today.

    Rex, I agree that Lily D’Ambrosio has done a good job with home electrification. There are federal programs that support industrial electrification, but they probably need some sort of outreach program to get the word out. It’s not really a fossil fuel cartel thing. For ~50y, Victoria has had cheap and convenient gas – most factory owners don’t know any other way.

  16. Team Katichsays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 11:03 am
    Problem for PP who already has them at wiped out. Once a so called ‘much higher level’ of bombing occurs what new status will PP assign them?
    ————————————————–
    More bigly wiped out?
    ====================================

    “Flogging a dead donkey” is the term that comes to my mind.

  17. pied pipersays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 12:03 pm
    Victorian taxpayers are paying tens of millions to remove gas and replace with electric and then today the state labor crazy government approved a large gas field….
    ==============================================

    They are also running a budget surplus, get your back in black mugs from out the back of the carboard. Finally something real to celebrate with them, “we are back baby!”,”back in black!”

  18. Disastrous trade figures just through from the Abs.

    https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/economy/international-trade/international-trade-goods/latest-release

    First deficit since 2017 Australia is sinking under labor.

    They labor losers should have hooked us up to the fast growing free USA economy but no,they sold out democracy and trade and went with communist China.

    Australia has no AI to bail it out and its productivity under fed labor government is also a disaster.
    Diversity in our economy labor hates it just loves human rights abusing China.

    Losing!

  19. pied pipersays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 12:10 pm
    Disastrous trade figures just through from the Abs.

    https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/economy/international-trade/international-trade-goods/latest-release

    First deficit since 2017 Australia is sinking under labor.

    They labor losers should have hooked us up to the fast growing free USA
    =================================================

    The USA has the mother of all trade deficits though. They haven’t had a trade surplus since 1975.

  20. More right wing loonery from PP at 12.10pm.

    “They labor losers should have hooked us up to the fast growing free USA economy”.

    How much of Gina’s iron ore would the yanks buy PP?

  21. frednk says:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 12:16 pm

    SAUDI has kicked the USA out and that was the end of project freedom.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OID64eeOoXI

    The Saudis banned the US from using Saudi bases or Saudi air space for Project Freedom. I would guess that there are still dozens of US aircraft based in Saudi Arabia bases and which are still flying around in Saudi airspace.

  22. SBS are advertising the broadcast of the soccer world cup.

    If soccer interests you, that is the only safe way to see the World Cup. The Yankee Tourist Industry was all fired up to make a motza from international spectators and then that idiot Chump and his sycophants stuffed it up. Few spectators, like most other tourists, intend to visit Chumpistan. A few world class players have decided to boycott the event as well.

    FIFA thought that playing to Chump’s ego with their once only peace prize would lead to a successful world cup, but sadly that will not happen.

    As they say, everything Chump touches turns to crap.

  23. Thanks for the tip, pp.

    The Australian and Victorian governments have approved a new Petroleum Production Licence to develop the Annie gas field off the Victorian coast, supporting additional gas supply to the domestic east coast market.

    https://www.minister.industry.gov.au/ministers/king/media-releases/new-gas-production-and-acreage-supply-east-coast

    This is a small field in the Otway Basin which will supply an underutilised* processing plant:

    Gas from the Annie field will supply the Athena gas plant that has a capacity of 150 terajoules per day.


    It’s not to going to supply a heap of gas but might help the lights and heaters stay on later this decade as the Gippsland Basin runs out.

    * It’s currently processing 49TJ/day:
    https://www.aemo.com.au/energy-systems/gas/gas-bulletin-board-gbb/data-gbb/interactive-map-gbb

  24. GrannyAnnysays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 12:13 pm
    More right wing loonery from PP at 12.10pm.
    =======================================

    Does he feed us anything else, it appears to be his staple.

    Also Australia will record a fairly large trade surplus in the March Quarter. It was only March that was slightly negative with both January and February easy cancelling that out with strong trade surpluses.

    One African swallow does not a trade deficit make.

  25. Russia spreads its spiteful threat to attack Kyiv if its propaganda parade is spoilt to other countries as well, via their embassies in Kyiv:

    Russia has told foreign embassies in Kyiv to evacuate their staff in case it decides to attack the Ukrainian capital during the Victory Day parade in Moscow this weekend. It comes despite the Ukrainian president offering a truce extending before, during and potentially after the anniversary if Russia halts attacks on Ukraine. Vladimir Putin, the Russian ruler, has demanded a narrow ceasefire on strictly his own terms to protect his showpiece annual parade.

    In a note to foreign diplomatic missions and international organisations, Russia warned it would launch a “retaliatory” strike on the Ukrainian capital, “including against decision-making centres”, if Ukraine disrupted the commemorations this Saturday. It urged them to “ensure the timely evacuation of personnel from diplomatic and other missions, as well as citizens, from the city of Kyiv”.

    Ukraine proposed its own ceasefire starting on 6 May, which Russia ignored. Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Ukraine’s president, said Russia – which did not confirm its adherence to Ukraine’s proposal – had committed 1,820 violations by late morning on Wednesday. “Russia’s choice is an obvious spurning of a ceasefire and of saving lives,” he said. Ukraine was ready to work for peace but “if the one person in Moscow who cannot live without war is interested only in a parade and nothing else, that is another matter”, Zelenskyy said. “Russia has fought to the point where even their main parade now depends on us.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/07/ukraine-war-briefing-putin-threat-foreign-embassies-kyiv

    Putin is behaving like an increasingly petulant bully. I wonder if his sapping of Russia’s strength is undermining his own power, in terms of what how much he can project beyond his own state’s borders.

  26. ‘Trump disapproval reaches new high, Post-ABC-Ipsos poll finds.

    Democrats now hold a five-point advantage in support for Congress, up from two points in February.
    May 3, 2026

    Six months ahead of the November midterm elections, the Republican Party faces a deteriorating political climate, with Americans broadly dissatisfied with President Donald Trump’s leadership on the Iran war and other key issues and an electorate in which Democrats are significantly more motivated to vote, according to a Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll.

    Trump’s approval on economic issues, which were critical to his political comeback in 2024, has fallen since he launched the Iran war in late February.

    Americans disapprove of his handling of the situation with Iran by 66 percent to 33 percent. His rating on the economy has declined by seven points, to 34 percent, as gas prices have spiked. His approval rating on inflation has fallen five points in that time to 27 percent and his lowest rating comes on perceptions of his handling of the general cost of living, with 23 percent approving vs. 76 percent disapproving.’

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/05/03/trump-approval-ratings-poll/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

    Whether Trump’s unfavourability will extend to the generic ballot at the midterms remains to be seen, though if they do, the House will fall to the Dems, though the Senate will be more difficult, made all the worse by Fetterman sitting on the fence, and who’s a regular guest on Fox News, though he did say this recently:

    ‘Politico’s Jonathan Martin scooped that President Donald Trump, through intermediary Sean Hannity, pitched Senator John Fetterman on leaving the Democratic Party and becoming a Republican, offering “more money than he ever dreamed of” for a 2028 re-election campaign. Fetterman told Martin, “I’m a Democrat, and I’m staying one.”

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2026/05/05/leave-john-fetterman-alone-senate-majority-democrats/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

  27. Oz Update:
    Well, to borrow a phrase from Mike Tyson: everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. And that arrived on Thursday courtesy of the financial crimes watchdog which announced an investigation into Tabcorp’s crime-fighting controls. AUSTRAC says it has “a number of serious concerns with Tabcorp’s ability to identify, mitigate and manage money laundering and terrorism financing risks”.
    McLachlan was said to be blindsided by news of the investigation on Wednesday night. Margin Call hears he cancelled all of his meetings on Thursday morning and called an emergency board meeting. He was also a late scratching from the Warrnambool Cup and will spend Thursday instead at Tabcorp HQ in Collins Street. “Tabcorp takes its anti-money laundering and counter-terrorism financing obligations very seriously,” Chairman Brett Chenoweth insisted in a statement to the ASX.
    One of the first things McLachlan did when he joined the ASX-listed betting giant in 2024 was launch a financial crime transformation strategy.
    But it doesn’t take a genius to work out where AUSTRAC’s focus might lie. Unlike other betting companies, Tabcorp has the major advantage of its retail offering, where customers can use cash through its betting terminals anonymously. After years of decline in cash revenue, mirroring its declining use in the rest of society, Tabcorp has experienced a recent uptick in its cash revenue in its retail venues.
    The share price plunged over 20 per cent in early trading.

  28. How we know Putin’s ‘requests’ for a ‘ceasefire’ strictly to protect his own propaganda parade, as well as his framing of any subsequent attacks he makes upon Ukraine as ‘retaliation’, are pure BS:

    On Wednesday, Russian drones hit a kindergarten in the north-eastern city of Sumy, killing a security guard and wounding two others, officials said. No children were there at the time, Luke Harding writes. Russian attacks on 14 regions of Ukraine since last Friday have killed at least 70 civilians and wounded more than 500, the UN human rights monitoring mission in Ukraine said on Wednesday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/07/ukraine-war-briefing-putin-threat-foreign-embassies-kyiv

  29. GrannyAnnysays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 12:13 pm
    More right wing loonery from PP at 12.10pm.

    “They labor losers should have hooked us up to the fast growing free USA economy”.

    How much of Gina’s iron ore would the yanks buy PP?
    =================================================

    PP’s beloved PHON is pretty much funded by Gina’s exports to China. Export to USA not China will stop those rivers of iron ore money flowing to Gina and onwards from there to Pauline. It would be a total disaster for PHON, as Gina would find it hard to even afford buying them a kids model plane in those circumstances.

  30. Serves those Russians cultural propagandists – and those useful idiots running the Venice Biennale – right:

    The Russian pavilion at the Venice Biennale was temporarily shut down after the activist group Pussy Riot staged a chaotic protest against Russia’s inclusion in the art festival. Wearing pink balaclavas, the protesters ran towards the Russian pavilion where they gathered outside and lit pink, blue and yellow flares while playing punk music and shouting slogans, including “Blood is Russia’s art”. They wore slogans on their bodies such as “Curated by Putin, dead bodies included”, “Russia kills, biennale exhibits” and “Russian art, Ukrainian blood”. A statue outside the pavilion was wrapped in a Ukrainian flag. Nadya Tolokonnikova, a founding member of Pussy Riot who led the protest, said: “It’s weird to me that Europe keeps saying that Ukraine is a shield for the entire European continent but it opens its doors time and time again to Russian propaganda. It’s heartbreaking for me.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/07/ukraine-war-briefing-putin-threat-foreign-embassies-kyiv

  31. Rex Douglassays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 10:13 am
    Victorian budget winners and losers according to the ABC.
    _______________________
    We are all losers under this Govt.

  32. pied piper:

    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 12:50 pm

    ‘VIC woke gov multiculturalism right here….’

    It’s not helpful when you post links that can’t be opened. Stop being a skinflint and pay for a subscription to your
    newspaper of record.

  33. Mavis says:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 1:00 pm

    PP doesn’t read the actual articles attached to the links he’s all about making uninformed and inane comments based on the headlines alone.

  34. Taylormadesays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 12:45 pm
    Rex Douglassays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 10:13 am
    Victorian budget winners and losers according to the ABC.
    _______________________
    We are all losers under this Govt.

    =====================================

    Speak for yourself, while I agree you are a loser. I’m certainly not.

  35. VIC woke gov multiculturalism right here….

    There being no indication in the report as to the identity of the perpetrator (unless his beef is with Canadian crime victims), Pied Piper can’t even pretend this comment isn’t racist, and has been dealt with accordingly.

  36. Bushfire Billsays:
    Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 1:18 pm
    ========================================

    Welcome back

    Has BB been subbed in for PP?

    If so I’ld say that is a Winning! change.

  37. Further to Entropy at 12.39pm.

    Fear not, there are plenty of right wing loons in Australia but not enough to elect a Hanson disaster, and if they did, there is no way Gina would allow Hanson to interfere with her massive income from selling stuff to China.

    Although there won’t be a ON Government, ever, if there was, all the right wing loons would soon regret it. Gina reckons miners are only worth $2 a day and the ON Senators have voted against every initiative that aids the low paid.

  38. Pied piper

    You are obviously not up to speed

    The tobacco wars were also being run by an international Iraqi crime syndicate
    _____
    Exiled Kingpin: Kazem Hamad, an Iraqi citizen, was deported from Australia in 2023 but is accused of continuing to control a major illicit tobacco, vape, and drug syndicate from Iraq.
    ______
    As soon as the feds got on top of the tobacco crap, the crime syndicate have turned their sights on alcohol

    I always thought our federal police were substandard, but there you go

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