The fortnightly Sky News Pulse poll by YouGov has Labor up three points to 30%, the Coalition up one to 21%, One Nation down three to 24% and the Greens steady on 14%. Labor’s two-party lead over the Coalition is unchanged at 54-46, but is much improved against One Nation at 57-43, out from 53-47. Anthony Albanese is up two on approval to 40% and down three on disapproval to 54%, while Angus Taylor is steady on 38% and down one to 42%. Albanese’s lead over Taylor on preferred prime minister is out from 44-39 to 45-36, and his lead over Pauline Hanson is out from 50-39 to 54-35. The poll was conducted last Tuesday to this Tuesday from a sample size unspecified in the report, which was likely around 1100 (UPDATE: It was actually 1500, as is typical for this series).
The weekly Roy Morgan poll has Labor steady at 29.5%, the Coalition up one-and-a-half to 24%, One Nation down one to 21.5% and the Greens down one to 13%. Labor’s lead on respondent-allocated preferences is unchanged at 54.5-45.5, while its lead on previous election preferences is in from 54-46 to 53-47. The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1681.
Omar Comin’ , from the last thread @ 8pm
I get want you mean man 😉 And I really hope your chickens are doing well. I am writing the discussion below to help me clarify my thoughts, and definitely not as any polemic aimed at you.
The Dawn Patrol by BK, understudied by Lizzie when required, and then picked up by C@tmomma, was an amazing source of mostly news and including some opinions. But, it was an incredibly time consuming task for them all, for which I was always very grateful, and thanks again BK and C@t, and Lizzie, who was a wonderful gentle spirit.
I was not on the blog when the criticism of C@t about her DP being just “women’s work” was thrown at her – weird stuff – but I can see why she threw the towel in. It is such a lot of work.
So, I am actually quite grateful to HH for the snippets of news with which he provides us.
And news it is that he provides us with (as Yoda would say), and news is actually something that is generally in short supply in these days of the “clickbait to get payment model” that our media currently runs on.
From the 1900s to the 2000s, news outlets in Australia (and much of the world) sold actual news (breaking, factual information) about wars, economics and politics. The various news outlets may have had editorials, attempting to tell people what to think, and how to vote, but people bought them for the news and information. And, the rivers of gold in advertising followed the readers.
Now, the “news” websites carry mostly opinion. There have always carried opinion pieces, and us readers who were there for the news applied our critical thinking skills to said opinion pieces, and critically appraised their opinion, using it to refine our own thoughts, in a manner weighted by reference to facts.
So a big shout to HH for providing news as it comes. I am also happy to read the many opinion pieces posted here by so many people, and they are really useful, but for these I ask myself:
* Is this opinion piece based on facts? This particularly applies to any piece about any science?
* Does it provide credible, peer-reviewed references for any facts, statistics etc. that it relies on to make its arguments?
*Is the author demonstrably knowledgeable about the subject – education, experience etc?
These three points above are what is needed to write an article for The Conversation, and I think that is a reasonable test as to an author’s credentials.
And I am not dismissing all opinion pieces, but said opinion pieces need to be taken with a good pinch of salt. More than a few are written as the clickbait for the revenue model by which our current media hangs on with by a thread.
Some Cartoons
Rowe
Wilcox

Badiucao

Katauskas (For Grogs Gamut)

Golding

Mark David

Christopher Downes Hobart Mercury

Rod Emmerson NZ Herald

I thought it would be fun to ask AI about it’s future.
Why are all the data centers being cancelled?
As of early 2026, roughly 30% to 50% of planned AI data center projects in the US are facing cancellation or significant delays. This massive slowdown in the $600B+ AI infrastructure boom is driven by a combination of severe power shortages, supply chain bottlenecks for critical equipment, and intense local opposition over environmental and cost concerns.
Is the AI industry profitable?
Most AI companies are currently not profitable and are operating at a loss, prioritizing rapid growth and infrastructure development over immediate earnings. While top firms generate significant revenue, massive R&D, compute, and talent costs often outweigh these earnings, with major players like OpenAI and Anthropic not expected to reach profitability until 2028–2030.
Will the non profitability of th AI industry and the collapse of the building of data centers cause a recession?
While many analysts believe the AI industry currently faces a potential “bubble” scenario due to high capital expenditure (capex) and slow profitability, it is not guaranteed to cause a recsssion
For weasel words you have to give it A+
I had a really quick poker at aggregation of news stories with AI a year ago. The proof of concept worked but needed refinement. I might see of can set up a claud agent to get it better.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/05/05/world/iran-war-trump-hormuz/370eb69f-906c-5a3c-b2a2-981374d7013a?smid=url-share
Umm…what? Does the man even hear himself? What the hell has been “amazing” about the blockade? And ‘nobody is going to challenge the blockade’? What does that mean?
The ever changing timeline for ending the war. Now they’ve just resorted to saying the war’s over.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/05/05/trump-changing-strategy-iran-war/
World News & Politics Patrol:
WHO tracing over 80 people on flight taken by hantavirus victim: https://www.manilatimes.net/2026/05/06/world/who-tracing-over-80-people-on-flight-taken-by-hantavirus-victim/2336441
Cruise ship with hantavirus outbreak to sail to Canary Islands: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pypvjx1ko
Middle East ceasefire on the brink as Iran strikes UAE and warns ‘we’re just getting started’: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-war-us-strait-hormuz-trump-uae-b2970970.html
Hegseth says ‘the ceasefire is not over’ after U.S., Iran exchange fire: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/05/iran-war-hegseth-trump-ceasefire-hormuz-strait.html
US tries to force open the Strait of Hormuz as the UAE comes under attack in a test of Iran truce: https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-war-ceasefire-negotiations-strait-a4857f28d9b47e0170b65ced19451a25
Romanian socialists and far right topple government: https://www.politico.eu/article/romania-government-collapses/
Lawyer who represented Hamas in court says UK police falsely listed him as member of group: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2026/may/05/lawyer-fahad-ansari-represented-hamas-uk-police-falsely-listed-as-member
Zack Polanski’s Popularity Plummets In Wake Of Golders Green Row: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/zack-polanskis-popularity-plummets-in-wake-of-golders-green-row_uk_69f9c468e4b055e1a496b8c4?3ne
Republicans Unveil $72 Billion Package For ICE, Trump’s Ballroom: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republicans-bill-72-billion-ice-trump-ballroom_n_69fa0082e4b055e1a496eff0
Republicans Make Jaw-Dropping $1B Demand for Trump’s Ballroom: https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-make-jaw-dropping-1b-demand-for-donald-trumps-ballroom/
Trump, 79, Falls Asleep After Bragging to Kids About Iran War Plans: https://newrepublic.com/post/209963/trump-falls-asleep-white-house-kids-iran-war-plans
MTG Says She Would ‘Probably Get Put in Jail’ If She Released Trump Texts Allegedly Saying Her Youngest Son Deserves Death Threats: https://people.com/mtg-claims-trump-texts-said-her-son-deserves-death-threats-11966958
An internal dispute over how to carry out President Donald Trump’s deportation agenda grew so heated that officials had to “clear the room,” according to a new report: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-deportation-ice-master-plan-fight-b2970888.html
Delta cuts food and beverage service on short flights: https://www.jsonline.com/story/travel/airline-news/2026/05/04/delta-food-beverage-changes/89937354007/
Secret Service employee exposed himself and masturbated in front of guests at DoubleTree near MIA, detectives say: https://wsvn.com/news/local/miami-dade/secret-service-employee-exposed-himself-and-masturbated-in-front-of-guests-at-doubletree-near-mia-detectives-say/
Jumbo fuel guzzling utes struggling….
https://www.afr.com/policy/energy-and-climate/diesel-ute-sales-fall-off-a-cliff-as-fuel-prices-bite-20260505-p5ztwb
And for the conspiracy buffs amongst us, this one is a cracker..
As they say, the coverup has started 🙂
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/may/05/barron-trump-not-time-traveller-idea-gone-viral
Thanks Holdenhillbilly,
I also would like to mention that I wouldn’t refer to Social Democrats in Romania as socialists.
The MAGA faithful need something to hold onto amongst all this doom and gloom!
Yet another test coming up for Australia with the US apparently drafting something for the UN to open the Straits of Hormuz.
Noting it would be open now if we didn’t have this stupid war OR the US lifted their blockade
Iran is denying they bombed the UAE, maybe that’s the case, maybe not, the question is about the proportionality of the response. Surely something we’ve all grown to appreciate after October 7
Disappointed with the decision re the Inland Rail, rejigging it makes more sense than scrapping it imo. I wise older gent I followed on Twitter suggested it should go to Gladstone rather than Brisbane, made a lot of sense imo
Farrer will be fascinating, silly to ignore that the Nationals are running like some of the analysis has imo even if the polling suggests they get less than 10%.
The big question is where does the Labor party vote go. Based on Nepean that will be everywhere, including to One Nation, rather than the Greens which is why I support issuing an open ticket in Stafford
Lucky the government has the Greens to help pass their tax reforms through the Senate, even if they take us, and our preferences, for granted too often
Douglas and Milko, Wednesday, May 6, 2026 at 5:11 am:
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D & M, thank you for the cartoons you curate for us. They can provoke thought and curiosity for more info at least as well as the best prose opinion pieces, IMO.
I fully agree that BK, Lizzie and C@tmomma’s efforts for us in presenting us with news and opinion pieces every day is sorely missed. I, too, was dumbfounded at the snark aimed at C@tmomma’s DR.
And thank you for the advice regarding the evaluation of opinion pieces.
Barnaby wanted the inland rail to go to Gladstone to export coal.
I too sorely miss c@t’s contributions.
The nexus between UK bond rates and falling confidence in the UK’s political capacity to deal with the UK’s economic issues has been lurking just over the horizon for some time.
There has been quite a bit of guessing about whether some economies will be sent over the edge by the Netanyahu/Trump/Khamenei II War.
Very early in the piece I hypothesized that if it ran long enough the War could topple governments.
It might do both.
Thank you to D&M for the toons and Hh for the round up.
Barnaby bough a mongrel bit of country before the inland rail route was sorted.
I do hope his personal finances does not get a personal financial hit as a result of this decision.
SL,
I am still in shock having just read GA’s story about the demise of Inland Rail. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/may/05/albanese-government-abandons-beleaguered-inland-rail-project-connecting-nsw-with-queensland
This is insane.
Re. Sprocket’s AFR link @ 7:08
It is no surprise that the AFR provided the best story on yesterday’s April EV sales data. Even when you include all of their anti-govt CIS bias they provide much better coverage of the energy transition than their competitors.
For example, the ABC have a story today which states:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-06/ev-discount-two-days-emissions-industry-jump-start/106643890
They don’t seem to be aware that there is data for March and April available, showing EV sales hit 23% and 28%, respectively: https://evdbau.com/market-stats
Still, at least they aren’t as bad as GA, which still includes this blatant disinformation from last month’s article:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/apr/15/australia-fossil-fuels-politics-electric-vehicle-savings-clean-energy
LS, I think this is the key piece:
-> It was Barnabied.
Various numbers are being given for how many ships have passed the SoH. The highest number from sources other than Trump is 9 ships.
The other reports range from 2 ships to 7 ships.
There is some uncertainty about what number of ships have been guided by Trump/Netanyahu or toll boothed by Khamenei II.
Trump turns that into 34 ships. He only has to triple that and the world economy is bruised but home and housed.
Netanyahu, Trump and Khamenei II only have to keep the Intifada going for the world economy to go down the gurgler.
Sing it loud. Sing it proud. ‘Globalize the Intifada!’
For some weird reason or other Rubio has entered the fray and has advised the world that the US will continue to target drones and small boats.
SL Barnaby is a goose and running the line past the property he purchased bordering on corruption
A lot of the talk was about Australia becoming Asia’s food bowl, so I’m thinking grains rather than coal. They won’t need our fossil fuels forever but they’re always going to need to eat
It takes two to tango but only one to tangle with the truth.
The truth? All sides have ethnic cleansing fever dreams.
The Guardian
Self explanatory URL
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/05/israeli-army-chief-unequal-enforcement-palestinians-west-bank
The Guardian
Self explanatory URL
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/05/jonathan-pollard-israel-gaza-ethnic-cleansing
The Australian:
The ABC has ignored the Pain of Israelis, Inquire Witness Says
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=TAWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theaustralian.com.au%2Fnation%2Fjewish-witness-tells-royal-commission-abc-contributed-to-antisemitism%2Fnews-story%2Fc130ca7f007684049a0aa24121a28eb3&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=ULTRALOW-Segment-2-SCORE&V21spcbehaviour=append
So in both these polls, the Centre-Left primary vote remain behind the Right Wing primary vote.
And on a primary of 30%, Labor is terminal.
They should never have even got one term either federally or in Victoria. Dictator “Dan Xiaoping” and his nefarious deeds should guarantee that Labor never get elected to power for the rest of the century, and make Victoria once again the ruby red state that it was during the Bolte era.
And when will ANY party address the elephant in the room: temporary immigrant workers who don’t form part of the migration quota? Are they just going to be allowed to keep driving Uber indefinitely while not having any grounds for permanent settlement until their atherosclerotic plaques clog up the cath labs and bypass theatres? Memo to all: reducing the permanent intake is only part of the solution. Deportation and repatriation need to be on the table, and you need to grow some chest hair so you don’t look like you’re scared of the latte sippers of Erskineville and Newtown.
There are persistent reports that Iran hit a US warship and some chatter about, if so, whether it was a destroyer or a drone boat or the like.
The latter would be neither here nor there.
The former would be significant.
Barnaby doesn’t care about food bowls:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/joyce-promises-multibillion-dollar-coal-export-train-to-gladstone-20211014-p59015.html or https://archive.is/fr52f
Timmy the Truth Teller Taking Truthy Lessons from Trump.
Guardian
The cost has increased more than 50% in just three years, since Dr Kerry Schott was commissioned by Labor in 2023 to independently review the project.
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But apparently the SRL is still going OK on the cost estimates from 5 years ago.
I don’t think they will ask Dr Kerry Schott to independently review that project.
“Barnaby doesn’t care about food bowls:
Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce says an extension of the multibillion-dollar Melbourne to Brisbane inland rail project to Gladstone can be “booked in” as a federal election promise to potentially unlock significant coal resources in the Surat Basin.”
You realise that only be unlocking profits from coal will economic prosperity in the regions result in more food on the table, native grown or imported, for the people of this great nation. Handouts and subsidies only cause net loss in productivity and net gain in welfare dependence.
Also, Hanson is going to move to the Lower House, opening a pathway for her to be the first elected woman prime minister. I cannot wait for a ON-Liberal government (the National Party will be obliterated by ON) with ON as the senior partner providing the Prime Minister. What a wonderful world it would be!
Timmy says:
Wednesday, May 6, 2026 at 8:02 am
So in both these polls, the Centre-Left primary vote remain behind the Right Wing primary vote.
And on a primary of 30%, Labor is terminal.
They should never have even got one term either federally or in Victoria. Dictator “Dan Xiaoping” and his nefarious deeds should guarantee that Labor never get elected to power for the rest of the century, and make Victoria once again the ruby red state that it was during the Bolte era.
And when will ANY party address the elephant in the room: temporary immigrant workers who don’t form part of the migration quota? Are they just going to be allowed to keep driving Uber indefinitely while not having any grounds for permanent settlement until their atherosclerotic plaques clog up the cath labs and bypass theatres? Memo to all: reducing the permanent intake is only part of the solution. Deportation and repatriation need to be on the table, and you need to grow some chest hair so you don’t look like you’re scared of the latte sippers of Erskineville and Newtown.
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Right-wing satire is almost as funny as Left-wing satire at times 🙂
No more diesel subsidies for farmers? No more income averaging over three years for farmers?
No more drought support subsidies?
No more special assistance after fires and floods?
No more household income support subsidies?
Gosh, that is brave.
Taylormade says:
Wednesday, May 6, 2026 at 8:05 am
Guardian
The cost has increased more than 50% in just three years, since Dr Kerry Schott was commissioned by Labor in 2023 to independently review the project.
_______________________
But apparently the SRL is still going OK on the cost estimates from 5 years ago.
I don’t think they will ask Dr Kerry Schott to independently review that project.
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Reading the rest of the article. Commissioned at $9.3 billion, now estimated at >$45 billion. Hmm….
Barnaby likes troughs.
Keep dem ‘toons comin’ D & M.
“Right-wing satire is almost as funny as Left-wing satire at times ”
How typical of the intellectual snobs who in their breathtaking sanctimony and hubris assume that behind every “right-wing” post in their view is just another leftie in disguise using satire.
Well let me tell you I ain’t satirising. I’m making fun of the sheer lack of insight of the Left!
And let me also tell you that I’m doing you a favour in letting you know that I ain’t no racist and MY views are shared by the majority of the Australian electorate. Not YOURS. Dismiss my facts if you want it’s a free country. But don’t go shovelling your tweeny-minority positions on everyone.
Thanks D&M and others for your reflections. What a wonderful, caring place pollbludger is.
Timmy says:
Wednesday, May 6, 2026 at 8:17 am
“Right-wing satire is almost as funny as Left-wing satire at times ”
How typical of the intellectual snobs who in their breathtaking sanctimony and hubris assume that behind every “right-wing” post in their view is just another leftie in disguise using satire.
Well let me tell you I ain’t satirising. I’m making fun of the sheer lack of insight of the Left!
And let me also tell you that I’m doing you a favour in letting you know that I ain’t no racist and MY views are shared by the majority of the Australian electorate. Not YOURS.
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How do you know I am not a Right winger masquerading as a Left wing intellectual snob?
p.s. your double negative is hilarious 🙂
Australia’s “social fabric is fraying”: human rights watchdog urges government to rebuild trust in democracy
https://thepoint.com.au/news/260505-australias-social-fabric-is-fraying-human-rights-watchdog-urges-government-to-rebuild-trust-in-democracy
““It (racism) has a long history here, beginning at first contact and is entrenched in systems, structures, and institutions,” the report stated.
“Communities and individuals affected by racism consistently identify an urgent need for the Australian government to take coordinated, national action to address racism in all its forms.”
Two priority actions identified by the Commission included the introduction of a federal Human Rights Act and strengthening federal discrimination laws.
“This reform would protect people’s rights in Australian law, build a culture that respects human rights and give people power to act if their rights are breached. It would strengthen trust in government and promote cohesion,” stated President de Kretser.
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“There is a significant gap between human rights standards that Australian governments have committed to uphold and the actual protections in our laws, policies and processes of government.””
We know that Gina R has gifted a plane to Hanson. In whose name is the aircraft registered? Who is paying for the pilot, hanger space, servicing, compliance, fuel, etc? Are these costs subject to timely disclosure or review under other electoral laws or regulations?
Just asking.
Factcheck: Is Madeline King right to call claims that Australia gives gas away for free “tosh”?
https://thepoint.com.au/factchecks/260506-factcheck-is-madeline-king-right-to-call-claims-that-australia-gives-gas-away-for-free-tosh
“It’s a straw man argument. Everyone acknowledges that gas export facilities cost billions to build. That is not the issue. The issue is that the gas owned by the public is given to those expensive facilities for free.
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Minister King, Senator McDonald, and public servants can dish up all the word salad they like, but this will not change the simple fact – large volumes of Australian gas are extracted and exported without paying royalties or PRRT.
In other words, Australian gas is given away for free.”
Why would the exporters of coal transport the coal from Queensland all the way to Melbourne to export?
The inland rail has been in existence for yonks more often than not getting wheat to Melbourne from Southern Qld, inland NSW and Victoria.
The connection of rail from northern NSW to Brisbane was always a financial and logistical problem.
Inland rail was sold to the National Party, One Nation Party and the old Country Party as the “game changer” to afford rural eastern Australia to their rightful place as the backbone of White Australia.
Like everything emanating from Joyce’s mouth it is all about him regaining the position of DPM and that associated financial and opportunity perks.
K
Joyce is a “cheap watch” in an era of immense technological change.
The inland rail improvements from Melbourne to Parkes have been long overdue. The benefits of this section of rail and its connection to the Sydney Perth line will provide substantial opportunities.
Timmy
No, second. Julia Gillard won the election in 2010.
Pauline Hanson would also be the second redhead.
And also the oldest person ever to hold the office of PM. She is now the same age as Menzies when he retired in 1966, still the oldest person ever to hold the office of Australian PM.
The polls all telling a similar story – Labor around 30, One Nation and The LNP low 20’s and taking turns in terms of who is in front and behind, Greens in the teens or so, and Others (which now excludes One Nation) around 10. The biggest loser from those numbers is always going to be the LNP
There is an MRP out for Scotland that looks very good for the Greens doubling their seats from 8 to 16. Hopefully it’s accurate
Have a great day
A few days ago, a friend of a friend availed herself of assisted dying. Our friend attended it as a witness, which is required under Qld legislation. The day after she died, her kin cancelled a prepaid funeral & asked our friend to collect the deceased’s ashes asap, as the funeral home charged $50 a day for storing them.
In 59 days Project Freedom will finish its run and Mission Farcanal will begin.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5864851-rubio-project-freedom-iran/
‘White shirt guy’ claims he was assaulted by police at the Sydney rally against Isaac Herzog. Now he plans to sue
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/may/06/white-shirt-guy-assaulted-by-police-claims-sydney-herzog-rally-ntwnfb
“This week, Jones is due to become the first protester to launch legal action in the New South Wales supreme court against police over their conduct at the protest. He plans to file a personal injury claim over what he alleges was an unprovoked assault.
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Jones works in finance and had been to one previous pro-Palestine protest. He decided to go to the Herzog rally with his wife because he didn’t think it was “appropriate” for the Australian government to invite the head of a state that a UN commission of inquiry found committed genocide.
His lawyer, Mark Davis of XD Law, says he will also seek a judicial review to try and obtain documents revealing the orders police were following.
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Jones was not arrested or charged after the alleged assault. However, a young man seen in the video – who Jones says was attempting to help – was charged with hindering police.”
Yes Inland rail was a disaster.
Its self described objective was to get a freight train from Melbourne (Beveridge) to Brisbane (Acacia Ridge) in 24 hours yet you can do that via Sydney with a few changes, mostly an expensive (but not 45 billion) freight bypass line probably via Wetherill Park. Some other line deviations that have been on the books for years (eg bypassing Picton or Coffs Harbour).
And they have made a huge mistake NOT continuing the project by clearing the line from Cootamundra to Campbelltown for double stacked container trains, which would also cost a few hundred million at the very most, as that would enable trains from Sydney via Cootamundra and Parkes to Perth, Adelaide and Darwin, as well as Melbourne (Beveridge).
The Toowoomba to Brisbane was always going to not work while the Queensland Government did not support it, and the alignment they used was pointless because while arriving in Queensland via Goondawindi was as ‘far north’ as was required, it was much too far west – the train would travel several hours to get to Brisbane because of this, when the direct line actually does go near Sydney.
It was premised on more coal being shipped off the Darling Downs, and the way things are going, that’s not the future we face. Its all very well saying China, Japan etc need thermal coal, its true until it isn’t. And we seem to be less and less influential over that fact, whether it is geopolitics, closed sea lanes or changes in renewable policy.
I posted yesterday how the changes to the Cheaper Home Batteries program triggered a rush on new solar panels to fill oversized batteries. The graph below illustrates the latter:
https://reneweconomy.com.au/rebate-frenzy-shatters-records-for-home-batteries-and-doubles-year-on-year-rooftop-solar-growth/
Qld have a new record for (big) battery charge:
https://openelectricity.org.au/records/au.nem.qld1.battery_charging.energy.day.high?datetime=2026-05-05T00_00_00&offset=10_00&focus=1777903200000
Corleone says:
Wednesday, May 6, 2026 at 8:49 am
At first glance double stacking doesn’t stack up financially, but then I am not a transport engineer.
https://australasiantransportresearchforum.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/2005_vanGeldermalsen_Leviny.pdf