Essential Research 2PP+: Labor 55, Coalition 40, undecided 5 (open thread)

The latest Essential Research poll finds no indication of weakening support for the government or an Indigenous voice.

Federal voting intention numbers from the latest fortnightly Essential Research poll have both parties down a point on the primary vote from a fortnight ago, with Labor at 33% and the Coalition at 30%, with the Greens enjoying a curiously timed three point surge to 17%, One Nation down two to 6% and undecided unchanged at 5%. Presumably reflecting the elevated result for the Greens, Labor is up two on the 2PP+ measure at 55% and the Coalition are down two to 40%, with undecided steady at 5%.

The poll also featured the pollster’s monthly “favourability ratings” for the two leaders, whom respondents rate on a scale of one to ten rather than provide straight approval and disapproval responses. Anthony Albanese’s results were little changed from late November, with 47% rating him seven or higher (up one), 27% from four to six (up one) and 22% from zero to three (down one), while Peter Dutton is respectively at 26% (down two), 31% (down one) and 35% (up two).

Support for an Indigenous voice increased two points to 65% with opposition down two to 35%, while 30% said they felt well informed about the proposal compared with 37% for poorly informed. Forty-three per cent rated that the country was headed in the right direction (down one), compared with 37% for the wrong direction (up one). The 300 respondents from New South Wales were again asked about approval of the state leaders, with Dominic Perrottet up four on approval to 51% and down three on disapproval to 33%, while Chris Minns at is steady at 38% and down two to 25%.

The poll was conducted Wednesday to Monday from a sample of 1000.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

3,009 comments on “Essential Research 2PP+: Labor 55, Coalition 40, undecided 5 (open thread)”

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  1. Sceptic ,
    She should stop being so stupid and educate herself about how engines work. It’s a battery. More complex, but a battery. Once installed, you don’t do anything. Harping on the point really doesn’t progress the conversation.

  2. Why do conservatives hate unions?

    They don’t hate the AMA, Chambers of Commerce, the Business Council of Australia, or other similar organisations.

    A few of the usual suspects might single out a few ratbags like the wharfies or building workers, but never seem to be bothered by wage thieves, employers who exploit youngsters, sometime sexually, or those who won’t address safety concerns becvause a remedy might come off the bottom line.

  3. “People choose to join unions or not. Clearly 92% of people have chosen not to do so.

    Compelling people to join unions through use of government funds is overreach.”

    Nah, I don’t think the deunuinisation of the Australia workforce has been purely a matter of choice. It has been engineered.

    People aren’t compelled to join a union they could find work elsewhere.

    I’d change tendering laws so that companies without unionised workforces, and tax residency in Australia are ineligble to contract to Govt.

  4. “Lars Von Trier says:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 7:36 pm
    People choose to join unions or not. Clearly 92% of people have chosen not to do so.”

    34% of workers are unionised in the public sector!
    Why is that fewer workers are unionised in the private sector?…. Would retaliation from the boss and lack of appropriate safeguards for the unionised workers have anything to do with that?

    Neoliberalism has left the workers unprotected, with the inevitable consequence of lower salaries, more casualisation, worse conditions, etc…. But Neoliberalism is on the way out. To complete the process, we only need a few consecutive terms… N.1 is already here.
    🙂

  5. She should stop being so stupid and educate herself about how engines work. It’s a battery. More complex, but a battery. Once installed, you don’t do anything. Harping on the point really doesn’t progress the conversation.
    _____
    South
    I 100% agree. It has been an atrocious interview by Ferguson.

  6. The deunionisation agenda has been strong for many years. Hopefully this Labor Government is better on the subject than the last one who struggled to say the word Union. Early signs are positive but as always they could and should do more where possible.

  7. C@t
    The only way up and out of the job was to become a supervisor and they didn’t want to do that because that involved bullying the underlings to achieve their KPIs.

    We can both agree a contact centre team leader is a hateful job that twists good people into bad ones.

    It took me several years and roles to unlearn the management style foisted onto me at News.

  8. Kind of stark Charlie Teo bringing Anthony Mundine and Steve Waugh to cheer him into 477 George Street while a widower waits inside with an account of failure to warn as to the risk of catastrophic consequences of high risk surgery.

  9. I heard Dutton in parliament giving an explanation for why he boycotted Australia’s Apology to Aboriginals in 2008.
    His apology for the boycott was long-winded but involved seeing DV in aboriginal communities when he was a cop in QLD.
    He said until DV and the like in aboriginal communities stopped he would boycott saying sorry.
    What a F**king cop out. (Excuse the pun)
    I would have thought after seeing those terrible things first hand he would have proposed saying sorry before anyone else.

    Well I suppose him saying sorry now for not saying sorry before must really make him feel sorry for being such an a**ehole.

  10. “ Vice Admiral (US / UK) “reactor .. sealed .. welded .. shut”.. So it’s literally a ‘black box’, Serah’s obvious question.. “what if something goes wrong”.. response, deafening silence.”

    The Admiral is incorrect. The reactor fuel core is welded into a sealed area, but the reactor compartment is not. There is always an access hatch the engineers to enter and maintain the reactor. So you can’t easily get at the uranium, but you could get at the reactor.

  11. From The Guardian, a very good Murph’s article on Dutton:

    “Dutton has spent the summer running a soft no campaign on the voice to parliament. One of Labor’s responses to the summer of soft no has been reminding Dutton regularly that he screwed up in 2008. The point of Anthony Albanese and Linda Burney re-litigating 2008 is obvious. You did the wrong thing then. Are you going to do the wrong thing now?

    For now, this question remains open. While Dutton searches for his answer, the anniversary forced a more extended reckoning with 2008. In the chamber, Dutton said he wanted to explain the past in an “unscripted” way. Dutton said he couldn’t say sorry back then because the ghost of Peter past possessed the mind of a cop – one of his pre-politics professions. He was haunted by images of domestic violence, and abused women and children. Back in 2008, he felt the time for apologies would be after those problems were fixed.”

    Ha, ha, ha… he couldn’t apologise because he was thinking about solving the social issues Aboriginal people faced?… Oh dear, and what did he do to solve those problems in the 9 long years he spent in government?…. But hey, now, again in opposition, he is once more oh so worried about the real problems that Aboriginal communities face, so much so that he believes that the Voice is not that important, just like the Apology in 2008…

    Dear me, what a buffoon!

    Voters, send a message to Dutton: Smash the Liberals and Nationals at the coming state election in NSW…. Then, perhaps, Peter will start worrying about the real issues, rather than finding excuses.

    The Coalition have completely lost the plot and any grasp of reality.

  12. Murph in The Guardian:

    “Dutton and Albanese continue to circle one another wondering if there is a universe where this referendum campaign can be a moment of unity rather than a moment of psychic injury.”

    I am afraid that there won’t be unity. But the only party to be psychologically and electorally injured will be the Liberals. Dutton won’t last, but the problem is: Who would replace him?

  13. I think linking the No (and Dutton) to refusals to apologise to the Stolen Generation (and Dutton’s own boycott of the apology) is a sharp move.

    Meanwhile I just saw that the No campaign is already splintering apart as Senator Price realised that she’d thrown in her lot with some fossilised dinosaurs and has decided she’s better off doing her own thing.

  14. Socrates,
    Do you know how dense and hard plutonium is. To make a bomb you have to machine it on a lathe into a ball. It’s really fucking hard to do. Proliferation is a red herring.


  15. Alposays:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:00 pm
    From The Guardian, a very good Murph’s article on Dutton:

    “Dutton has spent the summer running a soft no campaign on the voice to parliament. One of Labor’s responses to the summer of soft no has been reminding Dutton regularly that he screwed up in 2008. The point of Anthony Albanese and Linda Burney re-litigating 2008 is obvious. You did the wrong thing then. Are you going to do the wrong thing now?

    For now, this question remains open. While Dutton searches for his answer, the anniversary forced a more extended reckoning with 2008. In the chamber, Dutton said he wanted to explain the past in an “unscripted” way. Dutton said he couldn’t say sorry back then because the ghost of Peter past possessed the mind of a cop – one of his pre-politics professions. He was haunted by images of domestic violence, and abused women and children. Back in 2008, he felt the time for apologies would be after those problems were fixed.”

    Ha, ha, ha… he couldn’t apologise because he was thinking about solving the social issues Aboriginal people faced?… Oh dear, and what did he do to solve those problems in the 9 long years he spent in government?…. But hey, now, again in opposition, he is once more oh so worried about the real problems that Aboriginal communities face, so much so that he believes that the Voice is not that important, just like the Apology in 2008…

    Dear me, what a buffoon!

    Voters, send a message to Dutton: Smash the Liberals and Nationals at the coming state election in NSW…. Then, perhaps, Peter will start worrying about the real issues, rather than finding excuses.

    The Coalition have completely lost the plot and any grasp of reality.

    Smash LNP and him at Aston by-election. If and when LNP loses NSW State election, he will say LNP lost because of state issues. But if he loses Aston by-election he will have nowhere to hide.

  16. The biggest whackos at Senate Estimates are:

    1. Senator Rennick – Climate Science denier
    2. Senator Antic – Climate Science denier
    3. Senator Roberts – Reality denier

  17. “Arky says:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:07 pm
    I think linking the No (and Dutton) to refusals to apologise to the Stolen Generation (and Dutton’s own boycott of the apology) is a sharp move.

    Meanwhile I just saw that the No campaign is already splintering apart as Senator Price realised that she’d thrown in her lot with some fossilised dinosaurs and has decided she’s better off doing her own thing.”

    … and Leeser too seems to be returning to the Yes camp: “The shadow attorney general, Julian Leeser, on Monday borrowed from Rudd in 2008, noting it wasn’t sentiment that makes history “it is our actions that make history”. “Let us all choose to be participants and not observers in the repair of our country and the reconciliation of our nation,” Leeser said.”


  18. shellbellsays:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 7:50 pm
    Duncan Kerr SC as head of the AAT and Federal Court judge was a bit out of left field.

    Shellbell
    Please clarify how Duncan Kerr can be both. Isn’t it one or the other?

  19. “Ven says:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:14 pm

    Smash LNP and him at Aston by-election. If and when LNP loses NSW State election, he will say LNP lost because of state issues. But if he loses Aston by-election he will have nowhere to hide.”

    Aston is quite winnable provided that local Teals voters, Labor voters and Greens voters all put the Liberal party last in their preferences.
    It’s very easy: Vote the Liberal party LAST!


  20. sprocket_says:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:16 pm
    The biggest whackos at Senate Estimates are:

    1. Senator Rennick – Climate Science denier
    2. Senator Antic – Climate Science denier
    3. Senator Roberts – Reality denier

    Whacka-doodle-do!
    And Australians think GOP senators are whackos.


  21. sprocket_says:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:18 pm
    Rennick is saying the BoM are doctoring the figures by putting solar panels next to weather stations

    Whackos!


  22. Zwaktyldsays:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:25 pm
    It’s telling that Canavan can’t even make the top 3. We haven’t even had to include Hanson or Babet either.

    If Joyce is Nationals leader, Canavan would have made it.

  23. Senator Roberts now ranting a the BoM hearing questioning the science of Climate Change. Demands answers from the government.

    Jenny McAllister, as minister at the table, says she has observed his interaction with scientists for many years, and nothing she can say will change his mind.

  24. This article, from two years ago, was warning about foreign adversaries routinely penetrated US airspace with intelligence-gathering drones and balloons. It has aged like a fine wine.

    We may not know the identities of all the mysterious craft that American military personnel and others have been seeing in the skies as of late, but I have seen more than enough to tell you that it is clear that a very terrestrial adversary is toying with us in our own backyard using relatively simple technologies—drones and balloons—and making off with what could be the biggest intelligence haul of a generation. While that may disappoint some who hope the origins of all these events are far more exotic in nature, the strategic implications of these bold operations, which have been happening for years, undeterred, are absolutely massive.

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos

  25. South

    Yes I agree re proliferation. Removing the reactor core from an SSN is very difficult for many reasons including the nature of the core (uranium not plutonium for a US/UK SSN). The amount of HE uranium is very small.

    Likewise the safety question was badly asked and answered. The US and UK SSN programs have been very well engineered and are very safe. They have never had a radiation release in 60 years. Safety standards in the US and UK civilian nuclear industries are much worse and we should steer clear of them IMO.

    Mead was also incorrect about the French SSN LEU reactors. Their old ones need refueling every 7 years. Their new ones need refueling every 10 years. Also there is a special hatch to access the fuel core, so it isn’t that hard. The level of radioactivity is also much lower, so the whole process is easier and safer for workers.

    Mead’s confidence in the delivery time was striking. I doubt we are building SSNR, at least not in the first instance, if he is correct.

    On timing, the fact they still haven’t commissioned design of the new shipyard is damning. You need a shipyard upgraded to a nuclear engineering (safety) standard before you can start building an SSN. So if we are really in a hurry I must ask: why haven’t we started upgrading the ASC site already?? It will delay construction 3 years.

  26. Ministry of Defence Great Britain:

    – As of 07 February 2023, open source imagery indicated Russia had likely further bolstered defensive fortifications in central Zaporizhzhia Oblast, southern Ukraine, particularly near the town of Tarasivka.
    – As of 08 January 2023, Russia had established defensive fortifications between the towns of Vasilyvka and Orikhiv, Zaporizhzhia Oblast.
    – Despite the current operational focus on central Donbas, Russia remains concerned about guarding the extremities of its extended front line.
    – This is demonstrated by continued construction of defensive fortifications in Zaporizhzhia and Luhansk oblasts and deployments of personnel. Russia’s front line in Ukraine amounts to approximately 1,288 km with the Russian-occupied Zaporizhzhia oblast frontline at 192 km.
    – A major Ukrainian breakthrough in Zaporizhzhia would seriously challenge the viability of Russia’s ‘land bridge’ linking Russia’s Rostov region and Crimea; Ukrainian success in Luhansk would further undermine Russia’s professed war aim of ‘liberating’ the Donbas.
    – Deciding which of these threats to prioritise countering is likely one of the central dilemmas for Russian operational planners.

  27. The appointments to the AAT is a massive rort used as a retirement home for all types of erroneous types, most having been associated with governments at some level and definitely mostly awarded by Liberals as sinecures to Liberal associated folk.

    Arguing otherwise is the domain of complete “deadshits”.

    The majority of voters have no idea of the existence of the AAT nor its role.

    Attempting to malign the hugely successful Superannuation system, now implemented at all levels across all of Australia, is pathetically disingenuous.

    Appointments to independently established Superannuation Schemes, established by Unions is in no way a justification for the institutionalised rorting of the AAT by the Liberals.

    Criticism of superannuation schemes by the Liberals is classic Liberal jealousy.
    The jealously is not being able to control and rort the workers superannuation.
    Remember Howard’s brother and his disregard for workers superannuation !

    Superannuation benefits have been used by Liberal types (a la franking credits) to feather their own nests while denouncing the rights of workers to gain benefits from superannuation introduced to provide security and dignity in old age.

    Liberals are out of office because enough of the voters are now aware that as an organisation they cannot be trusted.
    Why would the Liberals be trusted to perform with integrity as part of the AAT ?
    Certainly not helped by the enormous remuneration packages they receive.

    Why not have a “time and motion” person follow the members of the AAT around for a week to determine if these “fluffy tenures” are worth the money.

  28. sprocket_ says:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:27 pm
    Senator Roberts now ranting a the BoM hearing questioning the science of Climate Change. Demands answers from the government.

    Jenny McAllister, as minister at the table, says she has observed his interaction with scientists for many years, and nothing she can say will change his mind.

    Sometimes you just have to resign yourself to there being some really stupid people on the planet & the US doesn’t have a monopoly on them

  29. Goll

    Keating once related that Howard and the Liberals voted against every single piece of legislation related his superannuation scheme. Every one.
    And then the Liberal aligned banks and fund managers went on to be among the biggest winners as funds grew.
    And the Liberals tuned it into a massive tax dodge for their wealthy supporters.
    The banking royal commission showed what a dodgy bunch they were and how they ripped off people. Even dead ones.
    The Liberals hate industry funds because sometimes their performance embarrasses the banks and fund managers and some may have union affiliations.
    But just as much, I think, because there’s a pot of money their mates in banking and finances can’t get their hands on and profit from.


  30. Rex Douglas says:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 7:03 pm

    frednk @ #2868 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 6:52 pm

    Lars Von Trier

    As I know an industry fund independent director I know what you just posted is not true. Bullshit in the end seriously damages our society and the Liberal party.

    How many ‘independent industry fund directors’ are ex-union officials …?

    And which finds have the highest performance? And the person in question is definitely not an ex union official.

  31. Of course bank super or for profit schemes are poor.

    Yet in Australia industry funds take out about 1% of contributions as admin costs. Whereas in Denmark they have one govt retirement fund which takes 0.1% of contributions.

    The difference is worth billions in dolllars going to the administration of the industry funds.


  32. shellbellsays:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:26 pm
    Ven

    It is a joint appointment

    IMO that should not be allowed at all. That Australian judicial system allows is a black mark on it.
    Even if it is allowed the government, whether it is ALP or LNP, should not do it.
    Even if they do it Duncan Kerr is not that spectacular to be appointed for both.
    I am sure there are many ALP legal luminaries who are better suited than Kerr to be appointed in one or the other.

  33. In answering all those impertinent questions of Ferguson I think VADM Mead did quite a good job, leaving the big questions of, for example, the cost & number of boats to his political masters. And the SA economy should go gangbusters.


  34. cafsays:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:28 pm
    This article, from two years ago, was warning about foreign adversaries routinely penetrated US airspace with intelligence-gathering drones and balloons. It has aged like a fine wine.

    We may not know the identities of all the mysterious craft that American military personnel and others have been seeing in the skies as of late, but I have seen more than enough to tell you that it is clear that a very terrestrial adversary is toying with us in our own backyard using relatively simple technologies—drones and balloons—and making off with what could be the biggest intelligence haul of a generation. While that may disappoint some who hope the origins of all these events are far more exotic in nature, the strategic implications of these bold operations, which have been happening for years, undeterred, are absolutely massive.

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos

    caf
    Why does that surprise you?
    When ex-Presidents and ex-VPs can take classified documents with impunity, this should not surprise because intelligence and security agencies appear to be more interested in protecting politicians and coercing foreign countries they might be under the impression that nobody will dare to do that to them and left that gate open.

    It is like having high security system for the home but leaving the back door open.

  35. Fargo61 says:
    “How does the U.K. with a primitive first past the post voting system, on top of voluntary voting, get rated as a full democracy?”

    No gerrymander.

  36. Q: “How does the U.K. with a primitive first past the post voting system, on top of voluntary voting, get rated as a full democracy?”

    Not to mention an unelected House of Lords (FFS its 2023, not 1223)….complete with a dozen Bishops!

  37. Mavis @ #929 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 8:55 pm

    In answering all those impertinent questions of Ferguson I think VADM Mead did quite a good job, leaving the big questions of, for example, the cost & number of boats to his political masters. And the SA economy should go gangbusters.

    Yes, I believe so and I believe that Socrates fears will be unfounded at the end of the day.

  38. C@tmomma says:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:24 pm
    sprocket_ @ #910 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 8:18 pm

    Rennick is saying the BoM are doctoring the figures by putting solar panels next to weather stations
    Did he explain the science/physics behind that accusation?

    Maybe Renwick thinks having a black / non reflective surface next to a weather stations heats up the air around it?

  39. Dutton won’t last, but the problem is: Who would replace him?

    There are whispers of mounting phone bills around Angus Taylor and the evangelical Sandgroper, Andrew Hastie. If Dutton doesn’t perform well in the Aston by-election, watch the knives become unsheathed.

  40. Sceptic @ #935 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 9:27 pm

    C@tmomma says:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:24 pm
    sprocket_ @ #910 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 8:18 pm

    Rennick is saying the BoM are doctoring the figures by putting solar panels next to weather stations
    Did he explain the science/physics behind that accusation?

    Maybe Renwick thinks having a black / non reflective surface next to a weather stations heats up the air around it?

    Don’t solar panels absorb heat and turn it into energy?

  41. “clem attlee says:
    Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:12 pm
    Fargo61 says:
    “How does the U.K. with a primitive first past the post voting system, on top of voluntary voting, get rated as a full democracy?”

    No gerrymander.”

    Gerrymandering would make the UK situation even worse, but it’s very bad as it is already.
    Just look at the results of the 2019 general election:
    Due to voluntary voting: 67.3% Turnout.
    Conservatives win 43.6% of the popular vote.
    Therefore, they represent 29.3% of the total electorate.
    Due to the FPTP system: they won 56.1% of the seats in the House of Commons.
    … and with that, they form government.

    Democracy my a..e!

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