Essential Research 2PP+: Labor 51, Coalition 44, undecided 5 (open thread)

Essential Research offers unsurprising numbers on voting intention and prime ministerial approval, and continues to find a clear majority in favour of an Indigenous voice to parliament.

Essential Research seems to have a new routine of discreetly slipping out federal voting intention numbers without trumpeting them in their weekly report. Labor is on 35% (up two), the Coalition 30% (down one), Greens 13% (steady), others 17% (steady) with 5% undecided (down one). The “2PP+” two-party measure has Labor steady on 51%, the Coalition up one to 44% and undecided down one to 5%. The weekly report has the monthly personal ratings for Anthony Albanese, which have him unchanged at 60% approval and 27%.

A forced response question on a constitutionally enshrined Indigenous voice to parliament runs 63-37 in favour, in from 65-35 in August. Respondents were presented with four questions querying their understanding of the issue, which found 25% holding the incorrect view that the proposed body would be able to block parliamentary legislation, with 26% believing otherwise and 50% not sure. Forty per cent expected 2023 would be a better year for Australia, compared with 24% for worse and 25% for no difference. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1042.

Roy Morgan’s weekly video informs us that their latest federal two-party numbers have Labor’s lead out from 54.5-45.5 to 56.5-43.5.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

2,019 comments on “Essential Research 2PP+: Labor 51, Coalition 44, undecided 5 (open thread)”

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  1. Federal investigators have accessed emails of Rep. Scott Perry, John Eastman and other Trump allies in 2020 efforts

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/16/politics/emails-scott-perry-john-eastman-trump-allies/index.html

    “Messages with Scott Perry
    In the Perry email cache, investigators found Eastman, Klukowski and Clark were in communication with the congressman a few dozen times after the election. A handful of email exchanges and attached documents were initially filtered out by the DOJ’s filter team, and Howell then allowed prosecutors to access the 37 records.

    Among those records, about a week after the 2020 election, Klukowski acknowledges in an email that he and Perry spoke, then attaches a document about state legislatures being able to determine the presidential election.

    Three emails showed Eastman discussing a phone call with Perry in mid-December 2021. “John, this is congressman Scott Perry from PA. Can you contact me ASAP?” one said around December 11.

    Other emails from Clark’s account, from after the Trump administration ended in 2021, included him sending Perry his resume, a forwarded excerpt of a Vaclav Havel essay, a discussion of a Roger Stone interview and a comment about Pennsylvania’s voting system.

    Eastman, Perry, Clark and Klukowski have been known to be subjects of the DOJ criminal investigation around January 6 since earlier this year, when federal investigators conducted searches of each man’s cell phones. CNN reported earlier this week the DOJ had a dispute with Perry over accessing the data on his phone because of constitutional protections around members of Congress, but it’s unclear if that has been resolved.

    None of the four men have been charged criminally.”

  2. On this day of family gatherings, to reflect on Russia’s war is dismaying. This quote from the NYT article jarred a thought, and then another.

    “In a rare open letter, he warned that using force against Ukraine would threaten “the very existence of Russia as a state.”

    #1 That might well have been interpreted as, “So you must agree that our existence is threatened right now!” IOW, it’s no deterrent.

    #2 If Ukraine was a threat before, it is more so now. And Ukraine is not his only threat. Putin is not going to stop.

  3. “ It is South Africa. There will be a fight back.”

    Sadly not, Simon.
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    3-5 to 3-50 was a fight back. Lead only 10 and still some peeps to bat bloke.

  4. Frednk

    Yes true, the main Soviet era rocket factory was at Dnepro in Ukraine 🙂

    And the Soviet navies main supplier of large scale diesel engines for warships was at Odessa. Which is why Russia hasn’t launched a warship over 4000 tonnes since 1994.

  5. Putin is not going to stop.
    —————————
    He created an enemy at the gates. Not winning early backed himself into a corner.

  6. Rex Douglassays:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 2:22 pm

    Terrible Gabba pitch. Day 1 soft greentop now full of hardened indentations that has the ball going off them all over the place.

    As someone of such integrity it’s not surprising you’re looking for excuses.

    Too many cheap dismissals, not enough batsmen willing to apply themselves and work for their runs.

    Combined with good bowling by both sides.


  7. Simon Henny Penny Katichsays:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:05 pm
    Putin is not going to stop.
    —————————
    He created an enemy at the gates. Not winning early backed himself into a corner.

    No war goes according to plan and expectations. As far as I know only 1 war went according to plan. Bangladesh liberation from Pakistan by India.


  8. Scepticsays:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:33 pm
    Chanel 7 will have to ask Cricket Australia for its money back

    Australia were so desperate to win in Brisbane and against South Africa, each batsman had be a Alan Border to survive. Yeah yeah you would say what about Travis Head? Lucky I guess.

  9. Oliver Sutton says:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:55 pm
    South Australia averaged 104.1 per cent net renewables over 7 days?

    Chris Uhlmann will need to update his slide show.
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    These types, deniers, and there’s still a lot of them, will continue to deny the reality regardless. Furthermore, the speed at which this is going to happen is greater I suspect than even those of us who understand had hoped. This truly will be a national energy revolution.

  10. Griff says:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:27 pm

    frednk @ Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:13 pm

    Yep. Agree with you on what a NN is. And you have a higher threshold for the definition of AI than some

    There are people pretending there will be self driving cars. My view is that my definition is required if you really want a self driving car. Hence my test. The Turing test is not enough, and it doesn’t even start to address vision.

    Me; I only wanted the computer to decide if a piece of fruit would be nice to eat. I have enough experience to treat all articles that claim the AI problem has been solved as delusional. ENough experience to marvel that a child born can develop self awareness and go on from there. The human vision system is absolutely amazing. Our ability to turn images into the perception of objects, and then the past knowledge we bring to classify it …… There are no words to describe the wonder of it all.

  11. Socrates says:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:00 pm
    Frednk

    Yes true, the main Soviet era rocket factory was at Dnepro in Ukraine

    And the Soviet navies main supplier of large scale diesel engines for warships was at Odessa. Which is why Russia hasn’t launched a warship over 4000 tonnes since 1994.
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    Can’t build new ones and can barely maintain the old ones. Sadly, they sound like Australia.

  12. He played for East Torrens, but was only a fringe A grade. He then had a long career in Adelaide Turf with Brighton A grade after getting married and moving down there.
    He was also a league footy umpire during the ’60s and early ’70s.
    Initials RH.
    ____________
    Thanks Barney

    But I could not solve it. When I pick up dad’s scrapbook from my brother next week I’ll dig deeper.

  13. Ven says:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:35 pm

    Simon Henny Penny Katichsays:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:05 pm
    Putin is not going to stop.
    —————————
    He created an enemy at the gates. Not winning early backed himself into a corner.

    No war goes according to plan and expectations. As far as I know only 1 war went according to plan. Bangladesh liberation from Pakistan by India.
    ——————————————————————————————-

    Even back in the 80s we used to have a saying that “no plan survives the Form Up Point” of even a single battle so it’s probably unsurprising that few wars go to plan. So many variables, made worse if the most basic assumptions on which a plan of warfare such as Putin’s was based were so deeply flawed. It will make for yet another a classic study down the track.


  14. Socrates says:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:00 pm

    Frednk

    Yes true, the main Soviet era rocket factory was at Dnepro in Ukraine

    And the Soviet navies main supplier of large scale diesel engines for warships was at Odessa. Which is why Russia hasn’t launched a warship over 4000 tonnes since 1994.

    Yep, the smarts were in Ukraine. The press is going on about a USSR drone being modified to attack Russia well inside the Russian borders. I would put my money on Ukraine building something from scratch.

  15. I was sat next to a friend today at lunch who has been studying military history at Uni and he was saying that, not that it’s a surprise, but that the Russian nuclear subs aren’t much chop either. Apparently the technology they use hasn’t been upgraded since WW2.

    Also, did you know that Putin has a poo tester? Putin’s poo is collected daily and analysed to see whether anyone is attempting to poison him. 😐

  16. well a bit rich the liberals going about mental health funding they seem to have abandnd the budjet repair method do not think this campese move is smart obveously the local cowncilor they tried out a couple of times was not good enough

  17. Trust frays as CEOs become wary of Canberra

    What most corporate leaders believed would be a moderate, business friendly Labor government is showing distinct signs of being far more interventionist than expected.

    The business community didn’t see it coming. What most business leaders believed would be a moderate, business-friendly Labor government is showing distinct signs of being far more interventionist than they had expected.

    This has certainly not severed Labor’s relationship with business in general or frozen either sides’ stated ambitions for further co-operation, but trust is fraying as a new wariness sets in about what might come next.

    Manufacturing companies in particular argue it’s vital for the government to do what’s necessary to help protect them from the sharp rise in energy prices for households and businesses.

    …But…..the government response has created rising apprehension in business about the precedent it might establish for intervention in other sectors of the economy.

    …Heading into summer somnolence, the public remains favourably disposed to Albanese, including his energy plan – so far, at least. The business community knows its own reputation is always less secure. Despite CEOs acknowledging a “solid start” by Labor, they are now more nervous about what lies ahead.

    More –
    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/trust-frays-as-ceos-become-wary-of-canberra-20221217-p5c74u


  18. Cronussays:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:56 pm
    Ven says:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:35 pm

    Simon Henny Penny Katichsays:
    Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:05 pm
    Putin is not going to stop.
    —————————
    He created an enemy at the gates. Not winning early backed himself into a corner.

    No war goes according to plan and expectations. As far as I know only 1 war went according to plan. Bangladesh liberation from Pakistan by India.
    ——————————————————————————————-

    Even back in the 80s we used to have a saying that “no plan survives the Form Up Point” of even a single battle so it’s probably unsurprising that few wars go to plan. So many variables, made worse if the most basic assumptions on which a plan of warfare such as Putin’s was based were so deeply flawed. It will make for yet another a classic study down the track.

    It appears Putin’s expectation was that Ukraine will surrender when they see large Russian army. And it appears he did not have a plan B if that fails and no idea what to do if that war drags for more than a couple of months. It appears He believed in “Shock and Awe” doctrine of US with very little resistance. Maybe he expected 2014 to happen in 2022.

  19. Cat

    “ I was sat next to a friend today at lunch who has been studying military history at Uni and he was saying that, not that it’s a surprise, but that the Russian nuclear subs aren’t much chop either. Apparently the technology they use hasn’t been upgraded since WW2.”

    I assume he means Russian / Soviet subs haven’t been upgraded since the end of the cold war. A lot has changed since the end of WWII.

    At the end of WWII both US and USSR took advantage of captured German U Boat technology and both incorporated it in their conventional diesel subs.

    Then in the 1950s the US worked out how to build nuclear powered subs and had a large technical edge over Soviet subs at that stage through to the 1980s. The Soviets started a crash course to build their own SSNs but they were inferior.

    The Soviets caught up through espionage, their spies paying treasonous defense workers (the notorious “Walker spy ring”) to discover the secrets of the US sub program and Soviet subs started improving in the 1980s.

    But in the 1990s their economy collapsed and both sub builders and crews lost their jobs. Putin recently poured money into restarting Russian sub production but it probably hasn’t improved in quality since the late cold war.

    The British SSNs started after the US gave them their nuclear power tech. The French partly learnt how to make SSNs on their own. All three are qualitatively superior to Russian SSNs. Chinese SSNs are inferior to Russian SSNs.

  20. Dave
    When did manufacturing get excluded from the business community?

    The people feeling less secure are effectively destroying manufacturing for short term gains, they should feel insecure. More people are employed in manufacturing, the few employed in the energy sector do not see the insane profits.

    I think the AFR should consider who their readership is and give it a rest.

  21. Ven – ah yes, Australia prepared a pace friendly pitch to screw over a Rabada-led Saffer bowling attack, truly devious.

    India need no excuse to prepare spin friendly wickets at home, but the idea they’d cite this pitch in a match they aren’t involved in as justification is particularly farcical.

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