The latest Essential Research survey has its monthly favourability trend ratings for Anthony Albanese which, as distinct from its straightforward approval/disapproval question, asks respondents to rate his performance on a scale of one to ten. This finds 46% giving him from seven to ten, up one on a month ago; 26% from four to six, down two; and 23% from zero to three, up three. On the question of national direction, 44% rate that Australia is on the right track, down two on a month ago and four on two months ago, compared with 36% for the wrong track, up two on a month ago and seven on two months ago.
Other questions relate to Australia’s relationship with China, which 46% expect to be better under the Labor government compared with only 9% for worse. Asked whether they wanted the government to look for opportunities to rebuild relations with China, take a more confrontational approach or maintain the current course, 54% opted for the first (up two from May), 13% the second (down six) and 12% the third (steady). Forty-four per cent think the AUKUS submarine partnership will make Australia more secure compared with 16% for less secure and 39% for about the same.
The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1042. Note that progressively updated coverage of the Victorian election count continues on the post below.
B.S. Fairmansays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 2:43 pm
I wonder who will be the first politician or government official caught up in these laws?
BiC
Is it retrospective. Or has it been grandfathered?
‘A R says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 2:48 pm
Sundry Bludgers reckon there is no need for trials.
Say what?….’
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Kangaroo courts suck. Everyone makes up their own rules. One person’s nuance is another person’s bullshit.
Venting is no substitute for the real thing.
Mr Lehrmann may well enjoy the coming lawyer’s picnic.
Apparently 50 of Smith’s 134 catches have come off Lyon.
Gillard was known as such a successful PM administrator in no small part because of the work of Albanese in Gillards cabinet.
Spent a bit of time in Indonesia over the decades. Reckon this adultery legislation is there because as development has progressed, a lot of fathers have been abandoning too many families. Indonesia doesn’t have the safety net that Oz has. Certainly not everywhere. Or, at least, that would be seen to be the justification IMO. I can see this law as a way of making sure you do your part… or else. Indonesians are mostly great; Friendly and generous. Quite particular about the right way to do things depending on where you are though. It’s a massive country.
Boerwarsays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 3:07 pm
It hasn’t passed Parliament yet, but that only appears to be a formality.
I haven’t seen anything about it being retrospective or otherwise, but the wording in reports suggests that it would become effective from the time of being signed into law.
Boerwar @ #1533 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 1:22 pm
Why do so many pretend that Makarrata depends on the Voice? It doesn’t.
Makarrata Now!
Player Onesays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 3:30 pm
Why are you so disrespectful to the position expressed in the Statement from the Heart?
Rex Douglas @ #1590 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 2:36 pm
I don’t think all Labor supporters are fossil fools, but the number we have on this site is certainly a bit disturbing 🙁
A R @ #1024 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 2:48 pm
BW thinks that it is not possible for a reasonable person, with a modicum of real-life experience, to form honestly held opinions about events, without the outcome of the extended play-acting of a ‘fair’ trial. As though a trial proves anything, except, at length, after appeals, the published outcome of the extended play-acting. If you think that the High Court decision in Pell’s case ‘proved’ he was innocent, then you have my pity.
My firm opinion, in this case, being that a man who deliberately takes a very drunk young lady to his place of work, at 1.30 am on a Saturday night, and explains his need for going there in three different ways, when asked by security, his boss and the police, (all such ‘reasons’ being spurious), is highly unlikely to be trustworthy. That opinion extends to a belief that such a person is not one whose testimony, if he were prepared to actually give it, should necessarily be believed. Particularly when the person who contradicted his reported statements about his motivations and actions was willing to put herself through the prolonged, days long, torture of vicious grilling by said man’s hired, methodical, psychological torturers, while he chose not to be exposed to any examination of his character or truthfulness at all. (As was his ‘right’.)
Right! It would be absolutely unreasonable to draw any conclusions from that! Of course! BW has spoken!
Wonderful things, ‘fair’ trials! Justice for all! /S The probity of all of those involved in the police/law industries is undoubted. You can swear on that. Also /S
Player One says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 3:36 pm
Rex Douglas @ #1590 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 2:36 pm
Fossil fuel stooges abound – and stalk you endlessly in a disturbing fashion.
I don’t think all Labor supporters are fossil fools, but the number we have on this site is certainly a bit disturbing
中华人民共和国
Says one of the two stooges on PB who don’t want to support Ukraine in their desperate struggle to survive the Northern winter. Your Putinesque stance would even make Trump blush.
Pi
“It is the first of three steps, but it’s the most important step”
Indeed. The simplicity belies the strength. I’m reminded of one of Ernie Dingo’s a travelogues. He’s chatting with a ranger and asks him how he copes with the job. I don’t recall the exact reply but in a nutshell the ranger says that he follows the principles that the elders taught him, “Listen, and respect.”
That’s the gift of the Voice. That’s where it starts.
Makarrata depends on participants’ good faith and on legitimacy of the participants.
Makarrata will depend in substantial part on Parliament as representing non-Indigenous Australians.
VoiceBusters would need to explain how they propose to organize one million Indigenous people to participate fairly and systematically.
Their current model seems to be that anyone who shouts and disses others gets billing and the rest can just go and get f*cked.
And yet again, the usual suspects have enjoyed deflecting from the issue at hand: SSM, stooges, Gillard, paternalistic piety.
It’s as if our First Nations peoples do not have a Voice 😉
One of the logistical issues for Makarrata is whether it addresses each massacre in turn or, for example, whether it addresses a massacre per language group or perhaps a massacre per state. And so on and so forth. Processing a massacre per day would require at least 400 working days of the Makarrata process. There is a lot of water under the bridge. Each group is still affected by the massacres in their country. Why should some groups not have their massacres addressed?
How does Makarrata deal with what many regard as two and half centuries of cultural genocide?
It won’t be about a few self-selected individuals fist pumping in parliament or creating fake binaries between ‘practical’ work and the Voice.
The Voice IS practical.
Regarding Joshies loss in Kooyong
Despite being an IPA, Thatcher loving complete failure of a Treasurer, not usually an impediment for well heeled Liberal voters but rather a reason to vote for him, l’m pretty sure the reason he lost was his spittle flecked rant against Dan Andrews and Victorians in general in the middle of the long lockdowns. Most Vics hated them but stuck it out for the sake of the whole community, then Josie screaming at us cos we were letting the rest of Oz down, ruining his Budget & the biggest sin of all, why couldn’t we be like NSW just after they reinfected us. Andrews sealed his fate when he reflected most Victorians visceral anger firing back with Treasurer of NSW & not a leader just a Lberal.
Griff @ #1614 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 3:53 pm
It’s as if we haven’t got them dead to rights about that certain elements of The Greens, whom they fulsomely support, are just as keen as the Coalition to kill the Voice.
Yabba
Of course people can form opinions which in their view are reasonable. This happens all the time.
But are we all Yabbas?
Who makes the rules?
Who applies the rules?
Who decides the punishments?
Thousands of Afro-Americans were lynched on this very basis by righteous individuals who believed that they were being reasonable.
Of course OTHER reasonable people might have formed a contrary view at the time, but hey.
RC
It is an interesting matter for contemplation.
My suggestions:
1. He was involved in stabbing Turnbull in the back.
2. He was part of Governments which systematically favoured NSW over arch rival Victoria with real money.
3. He was a male in a Government that spent years behaving in a blokey and in a systematically misogynistic way.
4. He was linked closely to Morrison.
5. He was a senior minister in a climate action blocking Government.
6. He was a senior minister in a NACC blocking Government.
OTOH, we should not be underplaying the $2 million in the kitty that Ryan had and the ability to organize 2000 volunteers. Ryan had no need to be accountable for her policies in terms of budgeting or costing.
IMO, if the Liberals selected a strong and accomplished woman as candidate for Kooyong they have a chance to get it back.
The Greens have put Sarah Hanson-Young. in a difficult position, she has to point out that David Littleproud has left the plantation without noting that Littleproud is doing little more than joining Adam Band.
Former Rubio staffer says GOP must throw Trump overboard: ‘We own it until we purge it’
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Writing on Twitter, Nunziata took stock of the latest controversies swirling around the former president, who is the only person in this history of the presidency to have been impeached two times.
“Former president, current candidate, likely GOP frontrunner this week dined with a Nazi and called for the dissolution of the U.S. Constitution,” he wrote. “Sorry, GOP electeds, I know you don’t want to be asked about this all the time, but we own it until we purge it.”
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-crimes-2658827363/
‘frednk says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 4:24 pm
The Greens have put Sarah Hanson-Young. in a difficult position, she has to point out that David Littleproud has left the plantation without noting that Littleproud is doing little more than joining Adam Band.’
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Exactemundo.
Prakash charged on six terrorism offences:
Accused IS State terrorist and leading global recruiter for the notorious jihadist group, Neil Prakash, could be jailed for life after being charged in Melbourne on Sunday.
she could have made a deal with the little known senater don farrell who is a former leader of the shoppies union i remember when the teroitory rights bill came up with the greens the australian at the time reportid farell and hog said she had not honered her deal and labor aposed it when the shoppies made a fus
Judge blocks Indiana abortion ban on religious freedom grounds
https://wabx.net/2022/12/02/judge-blocks-indiana-abortion-ban-on-religious-freedom-grounds/
A second Indiana judge on Friday blocked the state from enforcing its law banning most abortions after Jewish, Muslim and other non-Christian women challenged it in a lawsuit.
Marion County Superior Court Judge Heather Welch issued a preliminary injunction against the Republican-backed law, which prohibits abortions with limited exceptions for rape, incest, lethal fetal abnormalities or a serious health risk to the mother. The plaintiffs have argued that the measure infringes on religious freedom protected by another state law.
The law had already been on hold, as another judge in September blocked Indiana from enforcing it while Planned Parenthood and other healthcare providers challenge it in court.
Upnorth – Be Proud of your Pragmatism @ #1611 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 3:43 pm
Speak of the devil, and he appears!
Boerwar @ #1615 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 3:58 pm
Makarrata is the process Indigenous Australians say they want to address exactly this issue.
Why deny it to them?
Player One says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 4:58 pm
Upnorth – Be Proud of your Pragmatism @ #1611 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 3:43 pm
Player One says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 3:36 pm
Rex Douglas @ #1590 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 2:36 pm
Fossil fuel stooges abound – and stalk you endlessly in a disturbing fashion.
I don’t think all Labor supporters are fossil fools, but the number we have on this site is certainly a bit disturbing
中华人民共和国
Says one of the two stooges on PB who don’t want to support Ukraine in their desperate struggle to survive the Northern winter. Your Putinesque stance would even make Trump blush.
Speak of the devil, and he appears!
中华人民共和国
Joke about Ukrainians suffering all you want. Rex and yourself should be ashamed to hold positions that will see people freeze to death. Shame on you
Pisays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 3:16 pm
Gillard was known as such a successful PM administrator….
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I can stop you right there.
Successful PM administrators do not send a staffer in thier place to attend National Security briefings.
The justice system is totally asymmetrical when it comes to allegations of rape.
The alleged victim is subject to quite aggressive and, sometimes, minute cross-examination about their credibility and, often, their character in order to create reasonable doubt in the minds of as few as a single juror (where a unanimous verdict is required).
The alleged perpetrator does not even have to give evidence, let alone be cross-examined.
I understand what some here are saying about the presumption of innocence, but the implied adverse judgments about Ms Higgins by some here demonstrate how asymmetric things are. I would not presume guilt because Mr Lehrmann did not give evidence. After all, why should he want to go through the same treatment that Ms Higgins got – whether he was guilty or innocent!
But it may well be that Mr Lehrmann will get his day in court if he pursues civil action arising from this trial.
Lol Tailormade
C@tmomma says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 2:25 pm
Anyway, why are we relitigating Julia’s position wrt SSM, today!?! Yet again we’ve fallen into a trap set by nath. We should be alert to these perpetual attempts to besmirch Labor by this grub and react accordingly, by ignoring it.
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Because conspiring media owners won’t allow polls showing too much bad news for the Coalition to be published and the Victorian Electoral commission counts too slowly!
Q: Successful PM administrators do not send a staffer in their place to attend National Security briefings.
This is a common trope- female leaders are critically responsible for every single decision of their career- one mistake and they are tarnished and disgraced forever.
Male leaders can act like Trump, Abbott, Johnson etc..for years and years with impunity.
Boerwar @ #1618 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 4:08 pm
You are better than that, BW. Even making allowances for monochrome you, that is just disgusting!
Taylormade says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 5:09 pm
Pisays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 3:16 pm
Gillard was known as such a successful PM administrator….
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I can stop you right there.
Successful PM administrators do not send a staffer in thier place to attend National Security briefings.
中华人民共和国
LOL Taylormade
Player Onesays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 5:01 pm
Who’s denying it to them?
The Statement from the Heart asks for the Voice first.
Once again you show your disrespect.
Boerwar says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 4:08 pm
Thousands of Afro-Americans were lynched on this very basis by righteous individuals who believed that they were being reasonable.
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The only basis for lynching of African-Americans over the years was to keep them in their place. It was never about justice, even rough justice, but about racial subjugation. The extra-judicial violence was intended to demonstrate that African-Americans were not entitled to their day in court. I would have thought you would know this BW.
Rex:
Rex is like one of those people who walk around cities encased in signs that read “The End of the World is Nigh”
I’m not sure it would be wise for Lehrmann to sue for defamation but it’s his choice, just as it was for Roberts-Smith.
Mavis, I’d suggest that there’s some merit in the suggestion that you’d have a right to privacy, for better or for worse.
The bush troll is using the just claims and aspirations of First Nations peoples to gouge for the Reactionaries, as is their daily practice.
They are haters in bad faith, thru and thru: disingenuous, malicious, spiteful, untrustworthy, phobic.
They will do their feeble worst to discourage the passage of a Constitutional Voice, Makarrata and Treaty. The Statement from the Heart offends their dark reactionary heart. Fortunately they will be ignored by most. They would rather foil justice for First Peoples than concede a political inch to Labor – Labor, whom the troll hates with all their bludging soul.
Torchbearer @ #1633 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 5:20 pm
And Morrison. That man did something that dwarfs any wrong FPMJG ever did, but that grub, nath, would never say a bad word about that guy, except for some mealy-mouthed deflection like, well, everyone knows he’s bad. But that grub will devote a whole day, again, to prosecuting Julia Gilllard. Just proving, again, he’s lower than a snake’s belly. My how being shunned by someone/something you once loved can warp a person permanently.
Billy the Goat @ #1641 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 5:52 pm
And if it fails, guess who they will blame for the failure? Labor.
Barney in Cherating @ #1636 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 5:33 pm
And once again you show you have not even bothered to read the Statement from the Heart.
Which of us is showing disrespect here?
Player Onesays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 5:55 pm
As I was the one to first post the part of the Statement that contradicts your assertion on the Voice that says I most certainly have.
If your position was true, why did Lidia Thorpe and others walk out of the Uluru convention?
E. G. Theodore @ #1638 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 5:34 pm
Well, given that the end of the world as we know it IS nigh, that seems like a fairly sane response 🙂
Of course, the Cartel will make sure you pay heavily for any such action …
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/dec/02/climate-activist-who-blocked-traffic-on-sydney-harbour-bridge-jailed-for-at-least-eight-months
I imagine any kind of protest – peaceful or not – will eventually be banned. Or perhaps attract a life sentence?
Barney in Cherating @ #1645 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 6:04 pm
You have quoted it but apparently not bothered to read it or understand what it says.
Makarrata Now!
“yabbasays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 3:01 pm
markjs @ #945 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 10:06 am
..I mention this because we all know the robo-debt calculations were almost invariably WRONG..
The robodebt calculations were ALWAYS WRONG, because they were based on a completely, utterly false premise. That being that a client’s income in any particular, specific 14 day period could be calculated by dividing their annual PAYE income in that financial year by 26. Utter nonsense. A probability of ever being correct approaching zero so closely as to be indistinguishable from it.”
..thanks for your easily understandable explanation of how they calculated the victims’ fortnightly income..
..to think that their deliberate and sadistic scheme resulted in untold misery for many …and suicide for some, makes me so mad, and sad..
..is it too much to hope that somebody (bodies) in authority will be held accountable for this atrocious crime, perpetrated in full public view, upon some of our most vulnerable fellow citizens?!!..
Player Onesays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:07 pm
Why did Lidia Thorpe walk out of Uluru?
Voice is being responded to on Pollbludger by the same posters, in the same manner, as they do to climate change.
I like spotting patterns and I am lucky it is my day job. But I don’t have to always like what I see.