The latest Essential Research survey has its monthly favourability trend ratings for Anthony Albanese which, as distinct from its straightforward approval/disapproval question, asks respondents to rate his performance on a scale of one to ten. This finds 46% giving him from seven to ten, up one on a month ago; 26% from four to six, down two; and 23% from zero to three, up three. On the question of national direction, 44% rate that Australia is on the right track, down two on a month ago and four on two months ago, compared with 36% for the wrong track, up two on a month ago and seven on two months ago.
Other questions relate to Australia’s relationship with China, which 46% expect to be better under the Labor government compared with only 9% for worse. Asked whether they wanted the government to look for opportunities to rebuild relations with China, take a more confrontational approach or maintain the current course, 54% opted for the first (up two from May), 13% the second (down six) and 12% the third (steady). Forty-four per cent think the AUKUS submarine partnership will make Australia more secure compared with 16% for less secure and 39% for about the same.
The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1042. Note that progressively updated coverage of the Victorian election count continues on the post below.
Griff @ #1650 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 6:10 pm
You mean by pointing out a few inconvenient truths?
Fair call, I say.
RE: Whitlam University.
It has taken a day for my journey through (into) the past to jog my current old feller memory regarding Western Sydney University.
An earlier poster Steve 777, I think, recalled the Chifley Campus – which I believe was another stand-alone campus in western Sydney. It was located in the suburb of Chifley, obviously named after Australia’s greatest Treasurer and one of our greatest Prime Ministers, alongside Curtin & Whitlam.
As noted, Ben Chifley’s former electorate extended from Bathurst to far western Sydney.
Like Milperra, I think that Chifley – at least in name and as a stand-alone College was another victim of the Dawkins reform of tertiary education in the mid-80s, and not as a fit of pique from Premier Greiner.
TailorMaid: “Successful PM administrators ”
Successful PM administrators pass legislation. There are LNP governments from the not so distant past that couldn’t pass legislation even when they had ‘control’ of parliament.
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Torchbearersays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 5:20 pm
Q: Successful PM administrators do not send a staffer in their place to attend National Security briefings.
This is a common trope- female leaders are critically responsible for every single decision of their career- one mistake and they are tarnished and disgraced forever.
Male leaders can act like Trump, Abbott, Johnson etc..for years and years with impunity.
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A small correction…..
Male leaders can act like Trump, Abbott, Johnson,Morrison etc..for years and years with impunity.
Player One @ Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:20 pm
“”Griff @ #1650 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 6:10 pm
Voice is being responded to on Pollbludger by the same posters, in the same manner, as they do to climate change.”
You mean by pointing out a few inconvenient truths?
Fair call, I say.”
“A few inconvenient truths” or a singular attitude? As either is possible, Occam’s razor comes to mind 😉
Did you know?
Thousands of Dutch farmers protested with tractors on street
Govt did not accept any demand
Now Dutch govt is forcing them to shut 3000 farms
Is Netherlands action anti-democratic?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_farmers%27_protests
https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2022-09-06/Dutch-farmers-protest-being-hurt-hard-by-nitrogen-emission-targets-1d5mKDwbdfy/index.html
Ven says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:37 pm
Did you know?
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Tulip revolution?
What is the problem with Dutch farmers?
The Netherlands is the world’s second largest exporter of agricultural goods, but intensive farming methods and a high population density mean that nitrogen levels have started to reach illegal levels – prompting the Hague to take action.
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Dr Johnsays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:42 pm
Ven says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:37 pm
Did you know?
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Tulip revolution?
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Or Tulip ban? 🙂
England got to 15 seconds to midnight ….
Nick takes the listener through the major turning points of Truss’s seven weeks in power such as the sidelining of key economic institutions, the Bank of England’s dramatic intervention into the UK’s pensions industry and the sacking of chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng as he made his way back from a meeting with the IMF, a decision that ultimately spelled the end for the Prime Minister.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001fvj3
Liz did not act alone… all of the nutters are still there…. waiting
Simon Henny Penny Katich @ 8.43am
RE: Avoca Beach
The hordes tend to cluster at the southern Avoca Beach end.
We, at Nth Avoca Beach, have a visitor spike for a couple of weeks around Christmas/New Year’s Day and Australia Day if that falls upon a weekend.
The sign at the top of Tabletop Road – which states no access to Avoca Beach deters many day trippers. And yes, 40% of Nth Avoca residences are not fully occupied except for occasional weekends and holiday periods.
During the worst of the Covid restrictions, Nth Avoca has its greatest ever proportion of
residence occupancy. All the Sydney plague avoiders taking sanctuary on the golden shores of Nth Avoca.
Vensays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:44 pm
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Dr Johnsays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:42 pm
Ven says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:37 pm
Did you know?
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Tulip revolution?
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Or Tulip ban?
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Are they edible?
Breaking SMH
Lawyers for former Liberal staffer Brittany Higgins have given notice that they will sue former Liberal ministers Linda Reynolds and Michaelia Cash as well as the Commonwealth for about $3 million
Dr John says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:47 pm
Vensays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:44 pm
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Dr Johnsays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:42 pm
Ven says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:37 pm
Did you know?
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Tulip revolution?
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Or Tulip ban?
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Are they edible?
中华人民共和国
Tulip Mania.
‘TPOF says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 5:34 pm
Boerwar says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 4:08 pm
Thousands of Afro-Americans were lynched on this very basis by righteous individuals who believed that they were being reasonable.
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The only basis for lynching of African-Americans over the years was to keep them in their place. It was never about justice, even rough justice, but about racial subjugation. The extra-judicial violence was intended to demonstrate that African-Americans were not entitled to their day in court. I would have thought you would know this BW.’
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Uh huh. I studied American History at Uni and have read it ever since. My point was that the people doing the lynching thought that it was reasonable behaviour.
Upnorthsays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:50 pm
Dr John says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:47 pm
Vensays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:44 pm
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Dr Johnsays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:42 pm
Ven says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:37 pm
Did you know?
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Tulip revolution?
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Or Tulip ban?
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Are they edible?
中华人民共和国
Tulip Mania.
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Don’t open the dykes.
Nah
The Campus at Kingswood had the Chifley University sign for a few months and it was definitely Greiner who mean spiritedly stopped the name.
(The suburb of Chifley is in the south eastern suburbs)
‘Ven says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:43 pm
What is the problem with Dutch farmers?
The Netherlands is the world’s second largest exporter of agricultural goods, but intensive farming methods and a high population density mean that nitrogen levels have started to reach illegal levels – prompting the Hague to take action.’
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There has been friction between Dutch farmers and Den Hague for yonks. It is a bit like friction between Australian Greens and farmers. Endemic.
B.S. Fairmansays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 2:43 pm
The proposed Indonesian ban on cohabitation outside of marriage is probably not going to go down too well….’
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I see what you did there. Does that count under the legislation?
Dr Johnsays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:47 pm
Vensays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:44 pm
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Dr Johnsays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:42 pm
Ven says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:37 pm
Did you know?
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Tulip revolution?
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Or Tulip ban?
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Are they edible?
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Well apparently they are second largest exporter of agriculture goods. So by logical extension must be.
I don’t think they are going to lie down and take it
‘yabba says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 5:20 pm
Boerwar @ #1618 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 4:08 pm
Thousands of Afro-Americans were lynched on this very basis by righteous individuals who believed that they were being reasonable.
You are better than that, BW. Even making allowances for monochrome you, that is just disgusting!’
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uh huh.
Kangaroo courts, ‘rough justice’, lynch mobs in their various forms, and social media destruction of individuals on the basis that the digital mob KNOWS who is guilty, are all part of a bumpy continuum where the mob knows better than the courts and acts accordingly.
It is all, as you say, disgusting. And, as you say. We should be better than that.
Some of my cuzzes are on those tractors. The boers have troubled the authorities in my area since they necked Floris the Second or the Fifth. Or something like that.
OK, so the Plan is to start a Makarrata by getting whitefellas and Price and Thorpe in the Greens and the Nationals to sort themselves out. Not to mention Dutton.
When that is done we can move right along and start talking with Indigenous peoples. In the absence of representative arrangements we would have to find a way of simultaneously talk with all one million of them.
It is the sort of Plan that only arseholes and VoiceBusters could come up with.
Sincerely so, of course.
I love the story of Johan de Witt, the leader of Holland, who was so hated that not only was he assassinated but he was also eaten
Upnorth @ 12.54pm
Thanks Cobber.
By the way, in the past 3 months we have had 3 reported cases of Men in Grey Suits having a nibble or two upon unsuspecting swimmers & surfers.
Incidentally, when I lived at Copacabana (next beach south of Avoca) whenever Copa Point was really pumping, the surf club blokes would sound the Noah Alarm to clear the water.
If I was at home, it was a signal to grab my board and come on down the hill.
Boerwar says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 7:09 pm
OK, so the Plan is to start a Makarrata by getting whitefellas and Price and Thorpe in the Greens and the Nationals to sort themselves out. Not to mention Dutton.
When that is done we can move right along and start talking with Indigenous peoples. In the absence of representative arrangements we would have to find a way of simultaneously talk with all one million of them.
It is the sort of Plan that only arseholes and VoiceBusters could come up with.
Sincerely so, of course.
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Only 2 first nations spokespersons will be needed: Price and Thorpe.
They’ll present a consensus position on everything.
‘Oakeshott Country says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 7:11 pm
I love the story of Johan de Witt, the leader of Holland, who was so hated that not only was he assassinated but he was also eaten’
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Read Dutch history covering this past millenium or so and you need to get ready for some very energetic savagery.
Boerwar says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:54 pm
Uh huh. I studied American History at Uni and have read it ever since. My point was that the people doing the lynching thought that it was reasonable behaviour.
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Lots of people who do incredibly evil things (objectively) think it’s reasonable behaviour. And so do people who do less nasty, but still unlawful, things. Like the gilets jaunes, for example.
I object to both lynching and causing roadblocks but I wouldn’t equate the two in terms of moral culpability.
What is French President Emmanuel Macron playing at? From https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/dec/04/russia-ukraine-war-live-us-sees-reduced-tempo-in-conflict-russia-will-not-accept-oil-price-cap:
“ The west should consider how to address Russia’s need for security guarantees if Vladimir Putin agrees to negotiations about ending the war in Ukraine, the French president, Emmanuel Macron, said. He said Europe needed to address Putin’s fear that “Nato comes right up to its doors”, and the deployment of weapons that could threaten Russia, as Europe prepares its future security architecture, Reuters reports.”
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First, Russia’s “need for security guarantees”?? Since 1945, NO Western/EU/NATO country has attacked any Russian territory whatsoever. The USSR/Russian Federation, on the other hand, has attacked Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine. Who is the real threat to whom???
Secondly, Europe “needs to address Putin’s fear”? Since when has pandering to a dictator’s fevered, paranoid delusions been a sound basis for foreign and military policy??
I think Macron is in danger of being dragged down to Putin’s slim grip on geopolitical reality. I also think Olaf Scholz needs to be careful not to expose himself too much to Putin’s whispered urgings. I think President Biden is wise to keep Putin at a distance and so avoid falling into some Rasputinist web himself.
Boerwar @ #1673 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 7:02 pm
Pumping out your inner P1.
Well done. Your methodology is almost identical.
As with that pointless noise machine, in this subject area it is absolutely useless to even attempt to engage.
Go well. Smug away, to your little heart’s content.
Yabba
You have been variously rude, crude, insulting, dismissive, judgemental and histrionic: all in the service of demonstrating your superior rationality. You have even, gulp, likened me to P1. Could I sink any lower?
I have been, I believe, consistent and reasonable. While acknowledging the varying capacity of individuals to come to conclusions about guilt or innocence outside the court system, I don’t like extra-judicial ‘reasonable justice’ in any of its manifestations.
‘TPOF says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 7:39 pm
Boerwar says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 6:54 pm
Uh huh. I studied American History at Uni and have read it ever since. My point was that the people doing the lynching thought that it was reasonable behaviour.
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Lots of people who do incredibly evil things (objectively) think it’s reasonable behaviour. And so do people who do less nasty, but still unlawful, things. Like the gilets jaunes, for example.
I object to both lynching and causing roadblocks but I wouldn’t equate the two in terms of moral culpability.’
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Neither would I. That is why I used the term ‘bumpy continuum’.
Very interesting story
France abolishes all domestic flights between cities that are linked by train. ( Can you imagine this thing happening in USA?)
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/12/3/2139796/-France-abolishes-all-domestic-flights-between-cities-that-are-linked-by-train
The European Union permitted France to ban all domestic flights linked by train travel of less than two and a half hours. The decision by the EU was made yesterday, 12/2/2022. The ban will not affect routes between Paris Orly, Nantes, Lyon, and Bordeaux, at least not yet. Those routes will be banned in the future, according to sources.
The wealthiest get to keep their private jets and travel with no restrictions. I know, what a stunning surprise.
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A report from Transport and Environment (T&E), the European federation for clean transport, found that private jets are up to 14 times more polluting than commercial flights per passenger mile, and 50 times worse than trains.
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France’s parliament passed a wide-sweeping climate bill in 2021. The bill’s proposals would ban “future airport expansions, prohibit open-air terrace heaters and reduce packaging waste.” The French government requires public schools to have at least one meal per week that contains no meat or fish for meals. Grocery stores will be made to reduce wasteful packaging and plastic use. Landlords will be required to insulate their properties by 2025. And Reuters reports that “Meanwhile, the sale of cars emitting more than 95 grams of CO2 per kilometer will be banned from 2030, and a subsidy for electric bicycles is extended.”
Ven
Australian conservationists who are concerned by greenhouse emissions should long ago have eschewed air travel.
5% of the world’s emissions and 99% of it entirely avoidable. H sapiens got by without mass air travel until 1960.
We can get by without it again.
If I were the UN I would immediately ban air travel for UN staff except in case of extreme emergencies. Just for the UN to lead the global way, for a change.
Macarthur
“ The west should consider how to address Russia’s need for security guarantees if Vladimir Putin agrees to negotiations about ending the war in Ukraine, the French president, Emmanuel Macron, said. He said Europe needed to address Putin’s fear that “Nato comes right up to its doors”, and the deployment of weapons that could threaten Russia, as Europe prepares its future security architecture, Reuters reports.”
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I find it really odd that Macron takes this view. Unlike Germany, France has enough nuclear power so that it is not so dependent on Russian gas. So Macron can afford to be tough with Putin. Yet he isn’t.
Before the war Macron made a genuine attempt to get a diplomatic solution with Putin. But since the invasion it should be obvious that Putin places no value on peace, only winning and losing to appear strong in Russian domestic politics.
Mac and Soc
It all depends. Every nation involved has a balance of national interests and each national leader will be considering all the elements in that balance. Mixed up in that will be the personal political interests of the leaders.
If one were to think that this war will end in negotiations rather than outright victory by either Russia or Ukraine then it could be expected that there would be all sorts of jockeying in the negotiating space: including phase in which the the framing of negotiations happens before any real negotiations even begin.
Macron strutting the world stage and Macron the Peace Finder would go down well to some sections of his domestic audience.
Could we please leave the air travel ban until I’ve had a chance to go to Turkey?
I’ve always wanted to, and I’m not up to the swim.
Socrates @ Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 8:03 pm:
“ I find it really odd that Macron takes this view. Unlike Germany, France has enough nuclear power so that it is not so dependent on Russian gas. So Macron can afford to be tough with Putin. Yet he isn’t.
Before the war Macron made a genuine attempt to get a diplomatic solution with Putin. But since the invasion it should be obvious that Putin places no value on peace, only winning and losing to appear strong in Russian domestic politics.”
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Socrates, it has me scratching my head. The only thing that makes sense to me so far is that Putin may happen to be very good at direct personal persuasion, and so those national leaders who have been most exposed to direct communication with him since Feb 24 (like Macron) have been more swayed to the views Putin wants them to have.
Boerwar
“ Macron strutting the world stage and Macron the Peace Finder would go down well to some sections of his domestic audience.”
True. But from everything I have read, there is no sign of a negotiated settlement in sight. The more Ukraine starts taking territory back, the less they will want to concede.
OK, I’m clearly not living life to the fullest…
BW
No wonder these European countries are getting into serious trouble with their populations. They are increasingly taking very unpopular decisions regarding Climate change and added to that because of Putin war energy prices have zoomed into stratosphere.
When compared to European countries in AUKUS countries people are getting outraged and agitated over piddly things because of Murdoch rags.
Boerwar @ #1683 Sunday, December 4th, 2022 – 7:54 pm
BW, You have been bombastic and deliberately perverse, and have strewn irrelevant red whale-sized herrings about with gay abandon. Your puffed up, smug, absolute certainty is amusing.
The Australian police and court system utterly fails the vast majority of Australian rape victims, and victims of paedophilia. You know it, and every judge and lawyer involved in those fields also knows it. The idea that the Australian police forces handle such cases with any degree of competence is laughable. The court ‘justice’ process is a demonstrated failure, and victims are suffering, and having their lives destroyed.
And no, I do not have a solution. Yours, apparently, is more of the same.
so the prosecuters reasoning claiming mental health if she persued a trial has fallin a part with in days if he was telling the truth she would soo renalds i agree with the prosumption of inosints but think as the averige person is notdoes not have much knolidge of ddealing with sexual asult sensative trials should be judge only higins would have more of a case for defermation then lehrman whos name was supresed until very late i think the acused should also face questions couldnt the law be retrospective so higins did not have to retell her story in camera
Macarthur
I read the comments of Finnish leaders, past and present, who have had to deal with Putin personally. (I especially recommend Alexander Stubb), who switched from politics to academia after defeat as PM. He talks about his own past mis-judgements with refreshing honesty.)
Anyway none of them think Putin crazy – he is rational – but all say he operating from a quite different value system. It is all about power and he can be quite the ruthless bully. So hard to understand how Macron would fall for his “charm”.
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zoomstersays:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 8:09 pm
Could we please leave the air travel ban until I’ve had a chance to go to Turkey?
I’ve always wanted to, and I’m not up to the swim.
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You are safe if you can travel by train. 🙂
drumgold seemed to be continuing the mrorrison of higins being to weak to continue trial andhe did not seem to intervene on her behalf during the acused lawers cros egzamination which was not overly relivant
‘Socrates says:
Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 8:11 pm
Boerwar
“ Macron strutting the world stage and Macron the Peace Finder would go down well to some sections of his domestic audience.”
True. But from everything I have read, there is no sign of a negotiated settlement in sight. The more Ukraine starts taking territory back, the less they will want to concede.’
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1. I agree. I made just this point a couple of months ago. I referenced the way in which the Boer War was extended in time because the Boer commandos won local guerilla battles.
2. I believe that it is highly unlikely that formal face-to-face negotiations will commence anytime soon.
3. Both Ukraine and Russia have a long history of enduring terrible wars for years. This was just one reason why I suggested quite early on that this war might last for longer than five years.
4. In the interim public posturing in relation to negotiations is an integral part of the war for all players. On the side of Ukraine’s supporters this might range from expressions of public support for a fight to the death to posturing for a domestic audience by Macron.
5. I believe that the Russians would welcome an Ukraine attempt to cross the lower Dnipro in force. It is an optimum killing ground scenario for them.
zoomster says:
“Could we please leave the air travel ban until I’ve had a chance to go to Turkey?”
Zoomster on the Orient Express?
You know it makes sense!
Boerwar @8:09pm:
“Macron strutting the world stage and Macron the Peace Finder would go down well to some sections of his domestic audience.”
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Boerwar, that is another motivation that makes considerable sense to me. Maybe he’s getting a little shirty with Erdogan getting all the “honest broker” headlines. Whatever, I think his actions here are mostly just encouraging Putin to dig his heels in. Pity poor Ukraine!