Essential Research: PM favourability and China relationship (open thread)

Another poll finding little change in perceptions of the Prime Minister, despite a deteriorating view of the national direction.

The latest Essential Research survey has its monthly favourability trend ratings for Anthony Albanese which, as distinct from its straightforward approval/disapproval question, asks respondents to rate his performance on a scale of one to ten. This finds 46% giving him from seven to ten, up one on a month ago; 26% from four to six, down two; and 23% from zero to three, up three. On the question of national direction, 44% rate that Australia is on the right track, down two on a month ago and four on two months ago, compared with 36% for the wrong track, up two on a month ago and seven on two months ago.

Other questions relate to Australia’s relationship with China, which 46% expect to be better under the Labor government compared with only 9% for worse. Asked whether they wanted the government to look for opportunities to rebuild relations with China, take a more confrontational approach or maintain the current course, 54% opted for the first (up two from May), 13% the second (down six) and 12% the third (steady). Forty-four per cent think the AUKUS submarine partnership will make Australia more secure compared with 16% for less secure and 39% for about the same.

The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1042. Note that progressively updated coverage of the Victorian election count continues on the post below.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. “…. asks respondents to rate his performance on a scale of *one* to ten. This finds … 23% from *zero* to three …”

    William, so it’s actually a scale of zero to ten?

  2. Why don’t we listen more to countries actually on the front line against the Russian threat – like Lithuania (below) and Ukraine itself – when deciding how to militarily help them? I agree with the Lithuanian government that Ukraine needs more armoured ground forces to give their counter-offensives more much-needed punch:

    “Nato powers must take the political decision to send modern battle tanks to Ukraine to give them a military edge against invading Russian forces during the winter months, Lithuania’s foreign minister said on Tuesday.

    “I’ve talked to a number of military experts and the answer I’m hearing is that if we provided tanks by this winter, let’s say January, it could make a difference,” Reuters reports Lithuanian foreign minister Gabrielius Landsbergis told reporters during a Nato foreign ministers’ gathering in Bucharest, a day after a visit to the Ukrainian capital Kyiv with several other ministers.

    He said Ukrainian authorities had told him that they had “pilots” able to operate Nato battle tanks, suggesting some had already undergone commensurate training on alliance territory.

    “It’s a political decision because from a military perspective during the winter when the frontline is stabilising, if an additional jolt is needed, then this could be achieved by providing extra battle tanks,” he said.

    Kyiv has repeatedly asked for Nato’s main arms manufacturers to supply them with state-of-the-art tanks as they look to consolidate gains it has made in counter-offensives in recent months, notably in the embattled eastern Donbas region.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/nov/29/russia-ukraine-war-live-nato-foreign-ministers-meet-in-romania-us-to-announce-substantial-aid

  3. Lest we forget what Russians are inflicting upon Ukrainians, Ukrainian First Lady Olena Zelenska said this to her British hosts yesterday:

    “Russians are trying to “turn into horror” Ukraine’s days and nights with mass missile and drone attacks, Zelenska says.

    More than 20 million Ukrainians were left without electricity, water and heat as a result of Russian missile strikes, she says, some for more than 30 hours.

    Ukraine’s first lady says Russia has used “systematic violence” in many occupied towns and villages in Ukraine.

    Thousands of crimes by Russian forces have been identified, she says, including sexual violence. She says:

    The youngest girl who was raped by the Russian occupiers was four years old. The oldest survivor was 85. These are the victims.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/nov/29/russia-ukraine-war-live-nato-foreign-ministers-meet-in-romania-us-to-announce-substantial-aid?page=with:block-63862c568f082ef70a2410d3&filterKeyEvents=false

  4. Government working on next wave of IR changes
    Phillip Coorey

    This week’s passage of the controversial Secure Jobs, Better Pay Bill will be followed next year by another wave of industrial relations changes, this time to close what the government calls loopholes.

    With Senate passage of the first tranche of changes guaranteed by the end of this week, Workplace Relations Minister Tony Burke confirmed next year’s agenda would include clamping down on the use of labour hire, regulating the gig economy, and moves to reduce the use of casuals.

    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/government-working-on-next-wave-of-ir-changes-20221129-p5c261

  5. So, what are the Nationals’ reasons for opposing the voice? What have they had to say? And what has been the response?

    The federal Nationals leader, David Littleproud, says the voice will be “another layer of bureaucracy here in Canberra”.

    But Uluru campaigners argue the voice was designed to cut through the layers of bureaucracy.
    From the Heart’s campaign director, Dean Parkin, says governments currently run “multiple, repeated consultation processes”.

    “Aboriginal people are the most over-consulted people going around,” he said.

    “What is being said at the local level gets filtered, amended and changed before it actually gets to where decisions are made. We’ve got to cut through those different layers. We need a new way of doing business.”

    Campaigners say they’ve done 15 years of work on the voice – and it will be practical.

    “It must be substantive, it must change people’s lives on the ground, otherwise why go to a referendum?” Pat Anderson told the National Press Club earlier this month.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/29/why-do-the-nationals-oppose-the-indigenous-voice-and-do-their-arguments-stand-up-to-scrutiny

    In a way I’m not too fussed About The Nationals stand, and I detect a note of the Barnaby Joyce tail wagging former staffer Littleproud’s dog here because this seems to be all about politics and not about a practical line of differentiation. I believe it will give the Albanese government an out group to run hard against and will be able to use them as the bogey men (and women). Living in the colonial past and not wanting to allow the nation to move on from it.

  6. Bit more –

    Labor’s plan for labour hire, known colloquially as “same job, same pay”, all but guarantees another clash with business, especially the airlines and miners.

    Business groups have already warned that requiring labour hire companies to provide the same rates and conditions to their employees, as their clients provide to their own employees, would create many major complications and potential adverse consequences for businesses.

    But business faces another uphill battle, with One Nation already declaring its support to

  7. However, shellbell’s friend, Andrew Gee, has broken ranks with the rest of The Nationals and said he will support the Voice:

    Andrew Gee has become the first federal Nationals MP to break ranks and declare he will back the Indigenous voice to parliament after the party room vowed to oppose First Nations constitutional recognition.

    The West Australian branch of the Nationals also said it would support the voice as the federal party came under fire from Indigenous groups and the Albanese government for panning the proposal, before concrete details were finalised.

    “While I respect the opinions of my colleagues, I’m still a supporter [of the voice],” Gee said on Tuesday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/29/nationals-fracture-over-federal-opposition-to-indigenous-voice

    Congratulations.

  8. Great news! Looks like the Libs are doing all in their power to keep us happy by staying in opposition for a looonnnggg time:

    “ What do they say about the definition of madness?

    Something about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

    By that standard, the Liberal Party has gone properly nuts.”

    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/the-liberals-rejection-of-quotas-is-self-sabotage-on-an-epic-scale-20221129-p5c29w.html

  9. The Liberals should not use quotas to get more female MPs into federal Parliament, according to a review of the party’s dismal May election result, the SMH reports. Out of 48 Liberal MPs, just nine are female (19%), down from 13 in the Morrison ministry. Compare that with Labor’s 77 MPs, of whom 35 are female (45%). Labor has had quotas in winnable seats since the mid-’90s, but I guess that’s just a coincidence. Former party director Brian Loughnane and Liberal Senator Jane Hume led the review, which reportedly recommends targets, not quotas. Ironically it comes after the federal Liberals urged their Victorian counterparts to work on attracting female voters, Guardian Australia reports, after the party returned its lowest primary vote since the 1952 state election. Hume actually told the ABC yesterday that it was important to improve “representation within the party” but called quotas a “blunt solution”.

  10. These changes were taken to the election though –

    Coorey – Unlike the introduction of multi-employer bargaining, which was the centrepiece of the first wave of changes but never taken to the election, the government has a clear mandate for the second set of changes.

    Mr Albanese told MPs and senators to take a well-earned break over Christmas but to then spend the remainder of the summer selling the government’s achievements.

    As well as the IR changes and establishing the NACC, he listed climate change, cheaper prescription medicines, cheaper childcare, free TAFE places and increased aged care funding.

  11. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    Scott Morrison will be censured today for eroding public trust in Australia’s democracy, the first time in history a former prime minister has been formally reprimanded by the federal parliament. The text of the censure motion, which will be debated on Wednesday morning, notes the Constitution provides for responsible government in which the executive is accountable to the parliament and through that, to the voters.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/where-is-your-loyalty-to-the-people-archer-signals-crossing-the-floor-on-morrison-censure-20221129-p5c269.html
    “Rift? What rift? Morrison and Hawke put their bromance on display”, writes Matthew Knight who writes about Alex Hawke’s “non-denial denial”.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/rift-what-rift-morrison-and-hawke-put-their-bromance-on-display-20221129-p5c27w.html
    Phil Coorey tells us that Scott Morrison intends to speak in defence of his five secret ministries during today’s censure motion and has thanked his colleagues for their support in refusing to join Labor in condemning him.
    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/morrison-to-defend-himself-against-censure-20221129-p5c20x
    Sean Kelly wonders if Scott Morrison will even care when he is censured. A very good read.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/will-scott-morrison-even-care-when-he-is-censured-20221128-p5c1ym.html
    Barely a word has been spoken by his Coalition colleagues against former Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s secret ministerial power grab, writes Jennifer Wilson who says that Coalition’s silence over Morrison’s betrayal is alarming.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/coalition-silence-over-morrisons-betrayal-alarming,17017
    The entertaining John Lord gives us quite a pot pouri today. He’s always worth a read.
    https://theaimn.com/to-be-truthful-sorry-is-a-word-so-hard-to-say/
    James Massola and Chip Le Grand say that a secret review into the Liberals’ disastrous election loss in May has ruled out formal quotas for the number of women MPs in federal parliament and instead recommends a British-style recruitment drive to improve the party’s gender balance.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberals-election-review-to-back-pipeline-not-quotas-to-attract-women-to-party-20221129-p5c28h.html
    Jacqui Maley reckons the Liberals’ rejection of quotas is self-sabotage on an epic scale. She is very critical of many of the current crop of men on the Liberal MP ranks.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-liberals-rejection-of-quotas-is-self-sabotage-on-an-epic-scale-20221129-p5c29w.html
    Scott Morrison and Marise Payne will be forced to appear before the robo-debt royal commission in the next two weeks of hearings by the inquiry. James Massola tells us that a source close to the commission, who asked to remain anonymous to able to speak freely, said the former prime minister and former human services minister will be compelled to appear in the week beginning 12 December.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-payne-will-appear-before-robo-debt-royal-commission-20221129-p5c2cf.html
    Paul Karp reports that the national anti-corruption commission bill has passed the Senate after Labor successfully stared down a Greens threat to support a Coalition amendment on the appointment of the NACC commissioner.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/29/naccflip-greens-back-down-on-threat-to-block-national-anti-corruption-commission-bill
    The Nationals have split over their opposition to the Voice to parliament less than 24 hours after party leader David Littleproud announced they would formally oppose constitutionally enshrining the body. Nice work there from Littleproud!
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bitter-war-of-words-as-nationals-split-on-opposition-to-voice-20221129-p5c2au.html
    The SMH editorial accuses the Nationals of playing cheap politics on the Indigenous Voice.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/nationals-play-cheap-politics-on-the-indigenous-voice-20221129-p5c2ag.html
    The National Party’s decision to oppose a First Nations Voice at the upcoming referendum is premature and petty. The reason articulated by the leader David Littleproud, “unfortunately, we got to a position where we don’t believe this will genuinely close the gap,” is jarring given the Coalition has been in power for the majority of the closing the gap campaign, declares Teela Reid who says the proposition that a Voice must fix the problems created by colonisation for it to be worthy reeks of paternalism.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/hypocrisy-rules-for-nats-in-voice-referendum-decision-20221129-p5c20l.html
    Ditching the politics of division is paying off for Albanese. Now it’s the media’s turn, argues Peter Lewis.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2022/nov/29/ditching-the-politics-of-division-for-collaborative-decision-making-is-paying-off-for-albanese
    Those of us who hope for a future for our children cannot vote for the current right, infected by international strains of bigotry and deceptive authoritarianism as it stands. The centre right must evaluate what it has to offer, rather than cowering under the threatening might of its extreme partners, opines Lucy Hamilton.
    https://johnmenadue.com/the-right-is-now-lies-and-bigotry-what-next-for-conservatives-matthew-guypic-lib/
    A big spit from Rita Pahani here where she says, “Victorian Liberals under Matt Guy stood for nothing and got the drubbing they deserved. One can only hope that the next leader has a backbone and conviction.”
    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/rita-panahi/rita-panahi-rudderless-liberals-made-themselves-unelectable/news-story/c5501f11921d7e03f06655cca06edc29?amp
    As the world grapples with the ongoing impact of the pandemic, Russia’s unwarranted and illegal invasion of Ukraine, high and potentially sustained inflation, a global slowdown and the breakdown of global supply chains, our regional and global order is being remade. We are now in a world lacking in strategic trust. There is the real possibility of a splintering into democratic and authoritarian spheres of geopolitical influence, warns Dr Heather Smith who has previously served as secretary of the Department of Industry, Innovation and Science.
    https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/decade-of-disorder-and-danger-calls-for-national-strategy-20221129-p5c240
    Labor risks picking a fight with the gas industry with a plan to cap prices at between $11 and $13 a gigajoule for commercial and industrial customers in a move that could threaten additional supply and open up a battle between Queensland and southern states, write Jennifer Hewett and Jacob Greber.
    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/energy-fight-looms-as-labor-plan-for-gas-price-firms-20221129-p5c28i
    Few would have believed last May when Anthony Albanese took office that before the year’s end Labor would have legislated a radical reform that not only promotes secure work and attacks the gender pay gap but revives multi-employer bargaining in the labour market, pontificates Paul Kelly.
    https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/vision-for-future-seems-anchored-inthe-industrial-relations-past/news-story/1ec9e3a1e1fc5d1b2584e3e1ee65413c
    ‘Zombie’ wage deals have hurt Australians for years. Peter Martin tells us how the new industrial relations laws could finally end wage pain.
    https://theconversation.com/zombie-wage-deals-have-hurt-australians-for-years-heres-how-new-industrial-relations-laws-could-finally-end-your-wage-pain-195534
    Phil Coorey writes that this week’s passage of the controversial Secure Jobs, Better Pay Bill will be followed next year by another wave of industrial relations changes, this time to close what the government calls loopholes.
    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/government-working-on-next-wave-of-ir-changes-20221129-p5c261
    The former NSW MP who had a secret relationship with former NSW premier Gladys Berejiklian has been charged with conspiring with a migration agent to help foreigners fraudulently obtain visas. He’s a bad ‘un!
    https://www.afr.com/politics/former-nsw-mp-who-had-relationship-with-berejiklian-charged-over-visas-20221129-p5c27z
    So many Australian children are now addicted to nicotine from vaping that the federal health minister, Mark Butler, will propose reforms aimed at curtailing the e-cigarette industry.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/29/government-to-crack-down-on-nicotine-e-cigarettes-as-rates-of-teen-vaping-skyrocket
    Many children did not know they were consuming the highly addictive chemical until it was too late, experts say. “The former government dropped the ball on vaping,” Butler told Guardian Australia. “Our children are paying the price for that division and delay. Labor is considering ways to limit China’s investment and influence in our $20bn critical minerals industry on national security grounds, explains Dennis Shanahan.
    https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/rare-minerals-sector-to-be-off-limits-for-chinese-investment/news-story/f1bafdea24285055397b853e30e8c399
    Property price falls to date pale in comparison to rapidly rising mortgage rates when it comes to measuring housing affordability – and some locations are tougher than others, explains Tawar Razaghi.
    https://www.smh.com.au/property/news/worst-of-both-worlds-mortgage-affordability-toughest-since-1990s-20221124-p5c0xm.html
    Housing trade-offs are shaping our life choices and reshaping our cities by creating a fertility divide between the inner and outer suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne, writes Matt Wade.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/baby-boom-goes-bust-after-sydney-and-melbourne-s-property-compromise-20221129-p5c26b.html
    The Albanese government says it’s unfair for UNESCO scientists to single out Australia and call for the Great Barrier Reef to be downgraded to “in danger” of losing its World Heritage status when all sites around the world are imperilled by climate change. But this claim misses the crucial point, says Mike Foley.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-misses-burning-issue-on-unesco-s-in-danger-rating-for-great-barrier-reef-20221129-p5c245.html
    Daniel Hurst writes that the former Coalition government knew the now-dumped submarine project would likely cost about $80bn when it told the public the price tag would be “greater than $50bn”, an audit report has found. In a new report tabled in parliament on Tuesday, the Australian National Audit Office found the 2016 defence investment plan “fell short of providing accurate, reliable and transparent information” to the public.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/29/turnbull-government-knew-submarines-would-cost-80bn-but-told-public-at-least-50bn-audit-finds
    Amelia McGuire reports that Crown Resorts has recorded a loss of just under a $1 billion for the last financial year as the combination of financial penalties, extensive investment in compliance and COVID-19 restrictions outweighed the group’s profits. Ouch!
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/crown-resorts-cops-1-billion-in-losses-as-penalties-bite-20221129-p5c298.html
    Gambling reform is urgently needed across Australia and lives are at stake argues Nieves Murray.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/29/gambling-reform-is-urgently-needed-across-australia-lives-are-at-stake
    The Minerals Council of Australia has duped Energy Minister Madeleine King into repeating its highly inflated claims of how much taxes its mostly foreign multinationals members pay. Callum Foote reports on an $85 billion PR scam.
    https://michaelwest.com.au/mining-lobby-tricks-government-with-its-big-taxpayer-fairytale-swaps-deloitte-for-ey/
    Defence procurement is rotten to the core: It’s time for a Royal Commission, shouts Chris Douglas.
    https://johnmenadue.com/defence-procurement-is-rotten-to-the-core-its-time-for-a-royal-commission/
    The outlook for the world economy is on a knife’s edge as Europe debates a price cap for Russian oil and OPEC considers production cuts. Explains Stephen Bartholomeusz.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/the-next-few-days-will-be-crucial-for-the-global-economy-20221129-p5c215.html
    Eddie Obeid and his son, Moses, claim a miscarriage of justice will occur if they are forced to remain in jail while waiting to appeal their convictions.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/obeids-claim-exceptional-circumstances-warrant-their-release-from-jail-20221129-p5c26m.html
    “Can Elon Musk afford to go to war with Apple?}, wonders Elizabeth Knight.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/can-elon-musk-afford-to-go-to-war-with-apple-20221129-p5c277.html
    The message from the Central Committee on Tuesday night signalled it was prepared to use greater force after days of open dissent.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/chinese-government-warns-of-more-crackdowns-on-protesters-20221130-p5c2ci.html
    China’s state security apparatus is more sophisticated than ever. But so are its protesters, who have taken lessons from Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement, explains Eryk Bagshaw.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/people-are-taking-extraordinary-risks-beijing-faces-the-a4-army-20221129-p5c24s.html
    Paul Krugman outlines how he thinks China lost the COVID-19 war. He concludes that what we can learn from China is broader than the failure of specific policies; it is that we should beware of would-be autocrats who insist, regardless of the evidence, that they’re always right.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/how-china-lost-the-covid-19-war-20221129-p5c26c.html
    Mike Pence says his ex-boss Donald Trump has “demonstrated profoundly poor judgment” and called on him to apologise after the former president had dinner last week with a Holocaust-denying white nationalist and the rapper formerly known as Kanye West.
    https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/mike-pence-says-donald-trump-should-apologise-for-dinner-with-anti-semite-20221129-p5c26h.html
    A spate of major court rulings rejecting claims of executive privilege and other arguments by Donald Trump and his top allies are boosting investigations by the US justice department and a special Georgia grand jury into whether the former US president broke laws as he sought to overturn the 2020 election results.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/29/donald-trump-legal-trouble-us-courts-favor-justice-department

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  12. Thanks BK

    “ James Massola and Chip Le Grand say that a secret review into the Liberals’ disastrous election loss in May has ruled out formal quotas for the number of women MPs in federal parliament and instead recommends a British-style recruitment drive to improve the party’s gender balance.”

    Further evidence proving that change and equity are beyond the Liberals. Only they can defy all evidence to the contrary and yet believe unerringly that they’re still right. Political dinosaurs in every sense and the same, inevitable fate awaits them. And Progressives thank them.

  13. My son is CO of an army school, told me he had to call his chaplain in to discuss the evidence from the Military police that the chaplain was falsifying work records/time sheets to get more pay…

    How much Christianity do we need in our military?
    Nov 29, 2022 •

    The military employs 158 full-time chaplains, 150 of whom are ordained Christian ministers. But as the military becomes more diverse and more secular, who are these chaplains serving?

    Today, contributor to The Saturday Paper Amy Fallon on the role of religion in the ADF and what happens when it’s challenged.

    https://7ampodcast.com.au/episodes/how-much-christianity-do-we-need-in-our-military

  14. From https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-calls-for-air-defense-help-nato-vows-not-to-waver/a-63922416:

    “NATO foreign ministers are meeting in Bucharest to discuss more aid for Ukraine over the winter. Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance would not back down in its support for Kyiv.

    … the two-day event [is taking place] at the capital city of Bucharest’s Palace of the Parliament. It is at that same venue where, in April 2008, then-US President George W. Bush persuaded his allies to open NATO’s door to Ukraine and Georgia, despite strong objections from Moscow.

    On Tuesday, the alliance renewed its commitment to one day include Ukraine.

    “NATO’s door is open,” NATO chief Stoltenberg said, referring to North Macedonia and Montenegro’s recent addition to the alliance, as well as the imminent membership of both Finland and Sweden.

    “Russia does not have a veto” on countries joining, Stoltenberg said. “We stand by that, too, on membership for Ukraine.”

    No concrete progress, however, was made on the ground.

    On the sidelines of the meeting, Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis told DW that now was the right time to talk about Ukraine joining NATO.

    “And I’m talking about it because when we’re thinking about what will happen after the war new architecture, new security architecture will need to be created in the European continent because it was damaged,” he said.

    Landsbergis said this is felt more acutely in Lithuania, as it shares a border both with Russia and Belarus, which makes the Baltic nation “less secure.” He stressed that for his country, NATO’s collective defense strategy, as per Article 5, is the best security solution.”
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    Ironic if Putin’s cruel assault upon Ukraine resulted in NATO territory within about 450km from Moscow. Baltic nations like Lithuania are enthusiastic about Ukraine joining NATO, as am I.

  15. Nationals fracture over Voice

    The Nationals have fractured over the party’s opposition to the Indigenous Voice to Parliament, as the latest Closing the Gap report reveals multiple targets not on track.
    What we know:
    Nationals frontbencher ­Andrew Gee has vowed to support the Voice referendum, revealing he was ­absent from the party room when the Nationals decided to oppose it (The Guardian);
    The WA branch of the Nationals declared that it would continue to back the Voice, while the Victorian ­Nationals said they would not immediately follow the federal party on spearheading a “no” campaign (The Australian $);
    Former federal leader Michael McCormack suggested the party could revise its position next year depending on the details of the proposal (SMH);
    Aboriginal elders in Nationals leader David Littleproud’s western Queensland electorate have rebuked the party over its pledge to oppose the Voice (ABC);
    Cape York leader Noel Pearson accused Country Liberal Party senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price of being drawn into “a tragic redneck celebrity vortex” over her opposition to the proposal (NITV);
    Minister for Indigenous Australians Linda Burney meanwhile revealed there will be no government funding for the “yes” and “no” campaigns in the referendum (ABC);
    It comes as the latest Closing the Gap report reveals only two targets are on track, being healthy birth weights and the number of children enrolled in preschool (The Conversation);
    The gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians is increasing in measures including the number of deaths by suicide and adults in prison (Canberra Times).

  16. Dog’s Brunch says:
    Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 7:28 am
    My son is CO of an army school, told me he had to call his chaplain in to discuss the evidence from the Military police that the chaplain was falsifying work records/time sheets to get more pay…

    How much Christianity do we need in our military?
    Nov 29, 2022 •

    The military employs 158 full-time chaplains, 150 of whom are ordained Christian ministers. But as the military becomes more diverse and more secular, who are these chaplains serving?

    Today, contributor to The Saturday Paper Amy Fallon on the role of religion in the ADF and what happens when it’s challenged.

    https://7ampodcast.com.au/episodes/how-much-christianity-do-we-need-in-our-military
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    Interesting read DB and I can confirm most of it from my own experience at least. I don’t know Acton but I know Dibden very well. His intentions now were made clear to me twenty years ago and I’m not surprised by his aim of proselytising, it was his primary goal. This is unacceptable in yet another increasingly secular Australian institution and needs urgent action enforcing adaptation to the real needs of our service men and women. As it currently stands, it is outdated, unrepresentative and ineffectual.

  17. Well, the usual suspects in the mainstream media have been desperately trying to make the political contest like a singles tennis match between the leaders of the two major sides of politics. The approach did help to eventually sink Labor via a massive character assassination of Rudd and Gillard. After that, it kept Labor in opposition via a massive character assassination of Bill Shorten… But the strategy seems to have become useless with Albo…. That’s very good news for our Democracy… We could now start focusing on policies and achievements where the Coalition never stood a chance!

  18. “Dog’s Brunch says:
    Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 7:43 am
    Nationals fracture over Voice

    The Nationals have fractured over the party’s opposition to the Indigenous Voice to Parliament, as the latest Closing the Gap report reveals multiple targets not on track.”

    Yep, the Voice referendum is going to be a success for the Progressive side of politics and, above all, our First Nations populations. We only need to keep the Progressive side united and then get the votes of the split Coalition, especially sensible Liberals and Nationals.

  19. So Morrison to speak at today’s censure.
    The in-defendable defending the indefensible.
    It’s no wonder he’s the only one who could possibly understand his dribble.

  20. Holdenhillbilly says:
    Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 7:01 am

    The Liberals should not use quotas to get more female MPs into federal Parliament, according to a review of the party’s dismal May election result, the SMH reports. Out of 48 Liberal MPs, just nine are female (19%), down from 13 in the Morrison ministry. Compare that with Labor’s 77 MPs, of whom 35 are female (45%). Labor has had quotas in winnable seats since the mid-’90s, but I guess that’s just a coincidence. Former party director Brian Loughnane and Liberal Senator Jane Hume led the review, which reportedly recommends targets, not quotas. Ironically it comes after the federal Liberals urged their Victorian counterparts to work on attracting female voters, Guardian Australia reports, after the party returned its lowest primary vote since the 1952 state election. Hume actually told the ABC yesterday that it was important to improve “representation within the party” but called quotas a “blunt solution”.
    ____________

    I encourage the Liberals to believe this stuff for many more years – nay, decades! – to come.

  21. Thanks BK. (Sorry to be posting so early, fellow Bludgers: insomnia!)

    The SMH editorial accuses the Nationals of playing cheap politics on the Indigenous Voice.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/nationals-play-cheap-politics-on-the-indigenous-voice-20221129-p5c2ag.html
    ____________

    If Costello media editorialises in favour of the Voice, this suggests the Teal/’moderate’ Liberal demographics are likely to favour it.

    Can Labor win this referendum on Labor, Teal and a small amount of Liberal support? More likely if Dutton allows his MPs a ‘conscience vote’…

  22. Quick piece of science for Mark Knight:
    Uluru stands 348 metres above sea level at its tallest point (24m higher than the Eiffel Tower), yet it resembles a “land iceberg” as the vast majority of its mass is actually underground – almost 2.5km worth!

  23. https://www.pollbludger.net/2022/11/30/essential-research-pm-favourability-and-china-relationship-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-4019426

    -/-1

    It isn’t about various types of diversity/ inclusion/ exclusion, it is about good (progressive) or bad (repressive liberal/ extreme disaster capitalist), not small or big gov/ parties

    Even Copenhagen Penny got it right with Ausminster v Washminster

    Advance Australia fair, drop the colonial Union Jack from the flag, plus …

  24. Meanwhile Elon Musk is still whinging that advertisers are leaving the platform. He questions why they dont support free speech.

    Surely Musk understands what freedom actually means.

    The advertisers are choosing not to advertise on his platform. Isnt that being free. Sheesh.

  25. Australia monthly inflation data ahead
    Tom Richardson

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    A new monthly measure of Australian inflation for October is due later today, with economists divided in how the print will finalise.

    ANZ Bank’s economics team forecasts headline inflation for October to jump to 7.8 per cent from 7.3 per cent in September, while trimmed mean – the central bank’s preferred measure of inflation – is expected to rise to 5.9 per cent from 5.4 per cent.

    Westpac’s Justin Smirk forecasts the monthly indicator to lift 0.6 percentage points in October, holding the annual rate flat at 7.3 per cent.

    Commonwealth Bank and AMP economists are also on the lower end, and expect inflation will climb to 7.4 per cent.

    The data does not cover the full weight of the quarterly consumer price index.

    https://www.afr.com/markets/equity-markets/asx-to-slip-techs-drag-on-nasdaq-20221130-p5c2cm

  26. Another Dawn Patrol gem…

    Defence procurement is rotten to the core: It’s time for a Royal Commission, shouts Chris Douglas.
    https://johnmenadue.com/defence-procurement-is-rotten-to-the-core-its-time-for-a-royal-commission/
    ____________

    I agree, defence procurement in this country IS rotten to the core.

    I have a small bone to pick with the author, however, over this statement (in particular relation to Dutton’s performance as Defence Minister)…

    “A minister is only as good as the advice he or she receives from the Department.”

    I think there is abundant evidence to show that ministers can willfully ignore advice from departments.

    I do, on the other hand, agree with the author that our defence procurement problems (projects years behind, budgets blown by billions) are not simply the fault of previous minister/s – the department is also a problem.

    When I say problem, I mean national disgrace (both ministerial and departmental performance).

  27. Sean Kelly wonders if Scott Morrison will even care when he is censured. A very good read.

    Not in the least. Remember, Dog himself wanted Bullshitman to become PM, so he was on ‘a mission from god’. This is just ‘persecution’ of someone who had been doing the lord’s work. So come on down him feeling he is now an even godlier person- Scotty The Martyr.

  28. Alpo says:
    Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 7:53 am

    Well, the usual suspects in the mainstream media have been desperately trying to make the political contest like a singles tennis match between the leaders of the two major sides of politics. The approach did help to eventually sink Labor via a massive character assassination of Rudd and Gillard. After that, it kept Labor in opposition via a massive character assassination of Bill Shorten… But the strategy seems to have become useless with Albo…. That’s very good news for our Democracy… We could now start focusing on policies and achievements where the Coalition never stood a chance!
    ____________

    Remember the Dirt File the Liberals were going to dump on Albo late in the campaign? I didn’t notice it either.

    As Bob Katter once said, “You can have a beer with Albo!”

    Albo is now Hawke, but there aren’t many flies on Albo. Attempts at character assassination by political opponents (including mainstream propaganda units) have usually helped him.

  29. Victoria says:
    Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 8:30 am
    Meanwhile sulphur cockatoo pushing pot plants over balconies. Lucky no one was hurt.

    That last one was like a Chinook taking off, heavy payload

  30. Snappy Tom at 8:28 am
    There should also be an inquiry as to why there hasn’t been such an enquiry for so long. Gigadollar sized blow outs in costs has been a ‘feature’ for decades. Why was this allowed to continue ?

  31. C@tmomma @ Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 8:49 pm:

    The Daily Jake Broe:

    https://youtu.be/oZGbZ1CzT7c

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    C@tmomma, excellent link. Jake Broe gets a definite +1 recommendation from me for his informative channel on every day of “Russia’s disastrous invasion of Ukraine”!

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