Newspoll may be spinning on its wheels, but the Age/Herald has come through with the third Resolve Strategic poll of federal voting intention since the election, three weeks after the last. This one has Labor on 39% (steady), the Coalition on 30% (down two), the Greens on 12% (up two), One Nation on 5% (down one), the United Australia Party on 3% (up one) and independents on 9% (up one). Resolve Strategic doesn’t publish its own two-party numbers, but a fun new tool from Armarium Interreta allows you to punch in primary vote numbers and get a two-party result based on preference flows from the May election, which suggests a Labor lead of about 58-42.
Anthony Albanese’s combined very good and good rating is 60% (steady) compared with 25% for poor and very poor (up one), and he leads 53-18 on preferred prime minister (53-19 last time). Peter Dutton has a positive rating of 30% (up two) and a negative rating of 41% (up one). The poll also had questions on the budget and tax, the most interesting of which finds 34% supporting and 13% opposing the repeal of the stage three tax cuts, with fully 53% “undecided/neutral”, and on the Optus security breach. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1604.
Taylormade says:
Monday, October 17, 2022 at 6:37 pm
Dr Johnsays:
Monday, October 17, 2022 at 4:18 pm
What is Taylormade’s opinion of Liberal candidate for Mulgrave, Michael Piastrino?
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Friday afternoon I caught the local bus service that calls into Coolangatta airport on its route around the southern Gold Coast.
A guy across the aisle saw the suitcases and asked where I was from. I said Geelong Victoria.
Next second another Queenslander from a few seats up yelled out at the top of his voice.
“When will Daniel Andrews be charged with genocide”
True story and it was bloody funny.
中华人民共和国
LOL Taylormade.
Welcome Queensland Cobber. The Gold Coast especially is full of Freedum Warriors.
Asha @ #2048 Monday, October 17th, 2022 – 6:41 pm
Hard to know what’s worse. That there are people out there who truly believe this, that they are happy to admit their views in public, or that Taylormade willingly aligns with them!
State and Federal Governments launch National Plan to End Violence Against Women and Children
Good luck with that. It’ll take more than a generation. And it needs to encompass violence against men, as well.
This is an interesting read:
The Man Box: A study on being a young man in Australia
https://jss.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/The-Man-Box-A-study-on-being-a-young-man-in-Australia.pdf (a lengthy read (pr. reed))
k2
Good post, IMO. FWIW, I believe it is better to aim for a generation and get most of the way than not being ambitious about it and getting hardly any of the way at all.
Confessions @ #2052 Monday, October 17th, 2022 – 6:45 pm
https://www.theage.com.au/cbd/andrews-liberal-challenger-sorry-for-justice-threat-20221017-p5bqdn.html
Confessions @ #1746 Monday, October 17th, 2022 – 6:45 pm
Not to mention they don’t know the meaning of genocide.
China is increasingly becoming a gerontocracy.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/17/chinese-communist-party-congress-whos-in-and-whos-out-of-xi-jinpings-inner-circle
Welcome Queensland Cobber. The Gold Coast especially is full of Freedum Warriors.
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I have a wealthy friend who lives on Chevron Island and hates Dan Andrews for his own non intellectual reasons. .
8 months ago whilst in phone conversation he said I could have $50k on Dan at 2/1 ($3.00) (and he was guaranteed to pay).
I said at time I don’t rob friends and left conversation at that.
As an aside Dan is currently $1.08 with Sportsbet
laughtong:
Just when you think the bar has reached its lowest point, along comes another numpty to drop it again!
Interesting to observe how a RW lie gets up to Coolangatta before the truth gets its pants on. The truth is that Scott Morrison was the politician in charge of Aged Care Homes in Victoria. Except for the State run ones, in which there were no deaths.
Dan Andrews is guilty of Genocide. The Genocide against Victorian Liberals has been calculated, effective and brutal. 🙂
The Hate Dan crowd are definitely more unhinged than the Saint Dan crowd, but it is closer than some think.
Boerwar @ #2058 Monday, October 17th, 2022 – 7:05 pm
Not to mention America. Much as I love Joe Biden. Also, Donald Trump, not exactly a spring chicken.
Q: Dan Andrews and Genocide
People who say things like this are belittling all the victims of genocide…..it is beyond insulting.
I’m not sure the S3 tax cuts and the Truss / Kwarteng tax cuts can really be compared, at least in a political sense.
The S3 cuts were legislated years ago, in better economic times, and and the incumbent government went into the 2022 election unambiguously promising to retain them. They benefit every Australian who earns over 45k a year, with the big beneficiaries being those on $120k or higher.
The Truss cuts were the invention of a PM and Treasurer who came into office a bit over a month ago, during a far more dire economic situation. They were never taken to an election, and – as far as I understand – only benefit corporations and those earning over £150k.
The optics are very different.
nath says:
Monday, October 17, 2022 at 7:08 pm
Dan Andrews is guilty of Genocide. The Genocide against Victorian Liberals has been calculated, effective and brutal.
The Hate Dan crowd are definitely more unhinged than the Saint Dan crowd, but it is closer than some think.
中华人民共和国
Amen brother
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a rsays:
Monday, October 17, 2022 at 5:51 pm
Ven @ #2005 Monday, October 17th, 2022 – 4:35 pm
Shoebridge, Did the UN Torture inspectors went to China, North Korea and Russia to check their jails?
The implication being that we get to torture our convicts because other places do the same, or worse? Yeah, nah. It’s not a race to the bottom.
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No, the implications being
1. That People like Shoebridge behave as if torture only happen in democratic countries and not in autocratic/ dictatorships because they don’t show any outrage about Inspectors not being allowed in to those countries.
2. That doesn’t give governments of democratic countries permission to torture
Showbridge?
Bandt had better watch his back.
Just look at the Democratic house leadership, with 82-year-old Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her fresh-faced deputy, 83-year-old deputy leader Steny Hoyer.
Surely they must be getting tired of it all by now? They’ve been in congress longer than I’ve been alive!
And, of course, there was the 2020 Democratic Primaries, which had three seperate credible candidates pushing eighty, two of which were the frontrunners.
Asha @ #2065 Monday, October 17th, 2022 – 7:11 pm
Exactly.
But no one believes me if I say it. Hopefully they will believe you.
Morrison and Abbott were young fogies.
Asha @ #2069 Monday, October 17th, 2022 – 7:21 pm
It’s not just the Democrats.. It’s the Republicans as well. How old is Mitch McConnell? Chuck Grassley? John Thune?
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/federal/can-we-save-the-lost-soul-of-australian-politics-20221014-p5bpvu.html
Sean Kelly is a philosopher journalist. I enjoyed reading his piece on the irreducible or ineffable in politics. I didn’t agree with everything, but the ideas are worth tasting.
Unfair to Matt according to the Hun:
Same here. It’s quite incredible that they still want to be doing fulltime + jobs and not off retired and living their lives.
However I will say that even at their ages both Pelosi and Biden still have greater mental acuity than the Former Guy.
From the US but probably applicable here. Paywalled, ‘google trick’ jumps over it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/upshot/midterms-polling-phone-calls.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=The%20Upshot
“needs to encompass violence against men as well”
In the first instance it needs to encompass and prioritise children and the living circumstances of children – so violence against children and a parent not women and their children
They should be first and foremost in the Mission Statement because children have no voice
Their parents have a voice – and recourse to solutions
And, yes, children are abused verbally and physically by parents of BOTH genders (and sometimes by both)
A good start point would be to engage with the Family Court of Australia and their Counselling Section which resource gets to speak with the children when matters are before that Court
Not groups with a vested interest based on gender
Schools need to play a part because children go to school and may convey their circumstances to other students if not teachers
And to declare, I quote “the children were told not to tell their father of being hit because it would finish the marriage” from a Family Report
I cried
And I told my children I was always there for them
Ven:
No, they don’t.
Shoebridge is a Senator for New South Wales. It’s no great surprise that he is prioritising issues that affect people that live in New South Wales rather than stuff happening on the other side of the world.
C@tmomma @ #2018 Monday, October 17th, 2022 – 4:53 pm
So no torture inspections for Australia until Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, et. al. are dealt with, by whatever magical compulsory powers the UN has that west-aligned nuclear states do not? Sure seems like a suggestion that Australia should get an indefinite free pass on the issue.
What I don’t get is the apparent outrage/contempt for the UN. Surely a surprise torture inspection is a test Australia can easily pass. And if for some reason Australia can’t, then just as surely that’s something the public should be informed of as a matter of urgency. Because unlike Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, et. al., in Australia we don’t condone torture. Or so I thought. 🙁
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Ashasays:
Monday, October 17, 2022 at 6:37 pm
I would hope that we could aim to have a slightly better human rights records than brutal authoritarian dictatorships like China, Russia, and Saudi Arabia.
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Asha
I not only hope but I certainly believe we do have much better human rights record. But nobody actually knows what the situations are in authoritarian/ dictatorships because we are kept in dark. When we talk about these countries it is mostly speculation or what defectors said to western media.
Do you remember Abu Ghraib torture cells during Iraq war 2. We came to know about it because it was allowed/done by a democratic country and it was done by people who lived in autocratic dictatorship.
Where’s the torture in Australian jails? Poor treatment, yes I’ll cop to that, but torture!?!
“Of course, the minute Chalmers announces changes to S3 next year, he will be lauded by the PB commentariat.”
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Not next year, but the 2024 budget. And I will absolutely laud him, because he is an intelligent national Treasurer, not a stupid malicious troll.
And just to add
Is there ever any mention of National Service, conscription and 20 year olds being sent to their deaths in Vietnam – by a Liberal government?
Didn’t think so
Because that was murder
And what was the outcome of the War in Vietnam?
The goings on at that juvenile facility in the NT was pretty much akin to torture.
Medicare 7.30 et al
I’ll make an early call.. this piece is a cheap,beat up.. yes there is fraud in Medicare claims & private health insurance industry.
It’s human nature.. unless every service is independently double checked prior to provision fraud will occur
Rest assured given the money spent Medicare / health bureaucrats will have algorithms checking abnormal claims…
7.30 is the one wasting tax payers money.
Talking to “expert” pulling $8b claim out of her backside.
I have no problem with an international torture framework and inspections.
The problem is that the UN is corrupt.
Chalmers decent bloke and future PM material for mine TPOF.
With that Leak cartoon in Dawn patrol today, Leak finally needs a smack in the mouth!
On this blog people like Nath, Rex, P1 make all the criticism about ALP, which is much more social democratic and keep quiet about LNP, which is much more authoritarian.
Greens keep criticising ALP governments (nothing wrong with that) but they don’t criticise LNP governments as much as they criticise ALP governments.
It plays out on world stage also. The global left criticises Democratic countries’governments but stay relatively quiet when it comes to authoritarian/dictatorships.
Boerwar
I was bullied at home by my older siblings (it was rare, but it was when our parents weren’t home. amd it was subtle when our parents were there).
So, I bullied kids at school and, in turn, I was bullied by other students. When the shoe was on the other foot, that’s when I learned not to bully.
I don’t think it was a parental thing; to me, now, it was a pecking order thing among siblings, and peers. But when I was bullied at school, and learned how horrible it was to be on the receiving end, I learned my lesson, and didn’t bully my two younger siblings, or anyone else, for that matter.
It also helped that I was a bit of a weakling. By the time I was 12 (I had been very ill with measles when I was eight) my two younger siblings could beat me up. So I had to learn something! Or else I was going to come out on the other side a completely downtrodden human. So I learned to use my mouth in a fight.
What I’m getting at is that domestic abuse has many flavours. I’m sure my siblings didn’t mean to hurt me, because they, too, were sorting our their place in the family/world.
When my first-born told me he was being bullied in his first year of secondary school – on the bus – and where he had to make the first change in order to catch another bus, and all he wanted to do was punch them out, I told him to “put your hands in your pockets, and walk away” – brain over brawn, etc. He is the now the most reasonable guy you’d come across (and that’s to do with the advice he received from his dad, too).
My younger son, different father, is a bit of a hot-head, and I’m sure without his older brother’s help, he’d be a candidate for using brawn over brain.
And that brings me to girls. Some of my nieces and some of my younger son’s female friends, don’t think twice about using aggression.
To me, it’s not just a male domestic abuse thing, although undoubtedly with one or two women a week being killed by their significant others it’s something that needs to be addressed. I just think both girls and boys need to be educated about domestic violence. And that it’s not just perpetrated by males.
One thing I hope the government does NOT do in response to the Medicare leakage will be to bring in PwC or Deloittes or the like.
kezza2 says:
I was bullied at home by my older siblings (it was rare, but it was when our parents weren’t home. amd it was subtle when our parents were there).
So, I bullied kids at school and, in turn, I was bullied by other students. When the shoe was on the other foot, that’s when I learned not to bully.
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I was the School Bully.
Dr John @ #2086 Monday, October 17th, 2022 – 7:42 pm
He lives in my neck of the woods and I can tell you I’ve been sorely tempted to do just that but I put my hands in my virtual pockets and walk away. He’d probably just take advantage of it. 😐
Having an at home day off work as crook. Watching 7:30 on ABC24 at the moment. Medicare billing rorts the story. Fwark………….. One of the people interviewed who ran a company dealing with billing who has seemingly blown the whistle on this issue has been pretty up front with some of the whats and who’s.
Medicare a big issue. Not going to get overly exercised at the moment and call for peoples heads or blame anyone…yet…., but does rather beg a response from the Minister in the short term (Budgets and Health spending a topical issue wot) and maybe its something that is actually big enough to warrant a major inquiry…like an RC that would lead to recommendations for change that can become legislation… ??
FFS, snouts in troughs. Corporatised medicine i suspect and not so much GP’s who live on the front-line, though there will be some as every demographic has its arseholes..
Cat
There are plans to ban smoking in WA jails. That might be construed as torture by some.
https://www.wa.gov.au/government/announcements/bandyup-womens-prison-go-smoke-free-pilot
I wish the ABC long form reports would avoid shots of people doing mundane things like walking down the road or having a drive.
The old favourite was the important person collecting a file from reception and then pretending to read it.
C@tmommasays:
Monday, October 17, 2022 at 7:34 pm
Where’s the torture in Australian jails? Poor treatment, yes I’ll cop to that, but torture!?!
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What do you call the Dylan Voller treatment?
@Nath. Stop trying to reason with the hive mind.
Rossmcg @ #2093 Monday, October 17th, 2022 – 7:54 pm
Afaik they will be supplied with Nicorette. And it’s a health move, fcs! What’s torturous about wanting to keep them alive longer!?!
I’ve come in late to the footwear discussion. Many moons ago I was refused entry to the Queanbeyan Leagues Club (birthplace of the Raiders) because I had sandals without socks. At the time the QLC had a near monopoly on pokies as they were not yet allowed in Canberra and was therefore fairly fancy inside and could afford to take only “nice” clientele. We went back to my friend’s place to get a pair of socks and me look silly.
In 1974 I was in Darwin and noticed a sign at a bar “collar and socks must be worn”. As streaking was taking off then (saw one fellow streaking down the street) I wondered if any patrons took the sign literally and demanded admittance.
I hope the rorts in Medicare, of which there is no doubt, do not distract from the fact that bulk billing and Medicare generally is in crisis. More and more doctors are withdrawing from bulk billing. It needs to be addressed at the same time as the rorts.