The fortnightly Essential Research poll offers questions on foreign relations that include the finding that 51% believe Australia should become less close to China, down three points since December, with 24% believing relations should stay the same and only 12% believing they should get closer. By contrast, respondents were positive about relations with, in ascending order of enthusiasm, the United States, the European Union, the United Kingdom and New Zealand. Further questions record a surge for the influence of the United States since May last year and the intervening presidential election result.
An occasionally recurring question on climate change also found 56% believing it to be caused by human activity against 27% for normal fluctuation, suggesting a slight shift to skepticism since a few years ago. Forty-five per cent rate that Australia is not doing enough on climate change compared with 30% for enough and 12% for too much. Assessments on this question appear to have become more lenient since the onset of COVID-19, prior to which “not doing enough” was at upwards of 60%. A series of related questions record enthusiasm for renewable energy and a zero emissions target. The poll was conducted online from Wednesday to Sunday with a sample of 1087.
We also had a Victorian state poll yesterday in the Herald-Sun from Redbridge Group, which is run by former Labor operatives Simon Welsh and Kosmos Samaras. The primary votes are solidly better for the Coalition than last week’s Resolve Strategic poll in The Age, showing them with a lead of 41% to 37%, but Labor is nonetheless credited with a lead of 52.4-47.6 on two-party preferred, reflecting a Greens vote of 12% compared with Resolve Strategic’s 9%. These come with regional breakdowns that can be viewed here.
The poll also has a preferred premier question had Daniel Andrews at 42.4%, Michael O’Brien on 23.1% and neither on 28.2%; Andrews leads James Merlino 67.5% to 32.5% in a head-to-head question on preferred Labor leader, and O’Brien trails his predecessor Matthew Guy by 63-37. The poll was conducted June 12 to 15 from a sample of 1484.
Wat Tyler says:
Once the election is called or some actual interesting running story happens, it’s like a new inflow of water into a stagnant creek and things get interesting again. Until then, you just try to find something interesting to talk about and hope it doesn’t get drowned in the usual noise.
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A lot of that is due to the constant trickle from BW creek, a notoriously fetid waterway.
Wat Tyler
But the most boring repetitive posters take umbrage if anyone wants to block them. Lol
Recon @ #857 Thursday, June 24th, 2021 – 6:18 pm
I mean really, did you have to go below the belt? Did it give you the warm and fuzzies? Did you actually achieve anything by doing it? 🙄
Lizzie @ #858 Thursday, June 24th, 2021 – 6:20 pm
I love the ones that come over all Tess Trueheart and as ethically pure as the driven snow because they DON’T block anyone. 😆
Oh, I don’t not block people because I’m “pure”. I do it because I’m petty.
That way people who I ignore know there’s a good chance I read their post and deliberately chose to ignore it :P.
That’s a joke.
The idea that the second wave in Victoria was caused by somebody deciding to use private security guards in HQ rather than ADF personnel, still being peddled by the Liberal Party and their media allies, gives no credence at all to the nature of the virus or a pandemic.
Thanks for putting that comment up @ 5.51pm Laughtong, much appreciated. 🙂
To which I would add to the above, and what have we gotten because we used the ADF?
Operation Covid Shield Sovereign Borders with disappearing ‘Horizons’ and a bunch of hotel porters in khaki. 😐
Vale Noynoy. A real hero.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/benigno-aquino-death-philippines/100242210
DisplayName @ #861 Thursday, June 24th, 2021 – 6:26 pm
…Because how do they know you’ve ignored it and not simply had nothing to say about it or couldn’t think of anything? 😉
Or went off to have lunch!
No I do not scroll back through everything to check what I’ve missed :P.
(btw I had to edit in a double negative because it didn’t make sense the other way)
I assume I am blocked by a lot of people because a lot of stuff I write on here doesn’t get a response and my millennial narcissism makes me think it’s because many of you have a strong enough opinion of me to block me and don’t see my posts, not that I am just not posting anything that interesting or anything that warrants any engagement. Everything I post is important and interesting. Everything! 😛
Hallelujah brother!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/06/23/senate-infrastructure-framework-white-house/
(And, in case the emoticon and tone didn’t make it clear, yes that was a joke.)
Delta strain presents with different symptoms. Runny nose and sore throat, not a cough and loss of smell like Alpha. Prof Toole.
Awww… the east is red.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202106/1226870.shtml
Wat Tyler @ #866 Thursday, June 24th, 2021 – 6:34 pm
Nah. You’re just a noob. 😀
Wat Tyler
Comrade!
😉
https://youtu.be/qU29o9TfsT4
Joyce may have some difficulty in convincing women he’s reformed, and looked a little worse for wear after his delayed entry to the House for QT:
[‘Labor senator Kristina Keneally lashed Mr Joyce’s appointment, saying it was “hard to believe” a man with his history had been elevated to the role.
“This is a terrible joke Mr Morrison is playing on Australian women,” she told NCA NewsWire.
“No wonder thousands of women marched on parliament to say enough is enough. Mr Morrison didn’t even have the decency to come out and meet them.
“He didn’t get it then and, if Mr Morrison appoints Barnaby Joyce to the women’s taskforce, he still doesn’t get it.”
Labor in question time on Thursday pressed Mr Joyce on his capacity to work with women given his chequered past.
“Every person tries to be a better person and I am no different,” he replied.’]
https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/labor-blasts-barnaby-joyces-appointment-to-womens-taskforce-as-a-terrible-joke/news-story/8f254ba8524f3597005994021be5515a
The degree to which you are willing to compromise is a saleable commodity.
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I don’t accept your characterisation.
I am not in possession of total knowledge (nor the total arrogance) of what it means to be perfectly moral living being. I acknowledge that most of us try to maximise our goodness in our circumstance but that this goodness can take different forms to different people and to different societies.
I have made in the past very good friends with people and currently parenting a child who think very differently to and behave very differently from me. That doesn’t make them bad people.
Entrepreneurs like Bezos and Musk are not to be worshiped or written off. Their excellence is to be nurtured, their egregiousness regulated and their excesses taxed.
I’m glad Mr Joyce is trying to be a better person and that should be encouraged, but surely he doesn’t need to be on that taskforce to practice?
Possibly the only true thing Barnaby Joyce has ever said – “I’m sure there are blokes that dislike me”.
Yes, Barnaby – I’m also sure there are. Lots.
AV, it pretty much comes down to them not wanting to be held accountable. They want to avoid having to vote on things moved by elected senators from the crossbench that are politically inconvenient for them to vote on.
Watch Senator Siewert explain what’s going on and why the majors are doing it: https://twitter.com/SenatorSiewert/status/1407978384282460163
Mavis
Scotty’s blindness regarding attitudes to women is deep in his character. Appointing Barnaby (and his silly ministers for women) reveal how deep.
Simon Katich @ #1319 Thursday, June 24th, 2021 – 6:45 pm
Neither am I. Perhaps you missed my point. You can choose which “ethical” funds you invest in by carefully selecting which of your “ethics” you insist they implement. This will affect their returns.
I am quite lucky – my ethics tend to coincide with those of the highest returning “ethical” investments. Yours may, or may not. That doesn’t necessarily make me more “ethical” than you.
Blocking people because they have a different view to you or because you cannot handle a political debate with them, as some often claim they do, is absolute cowardice. You may as well just switch of your internet if you’re going to do that, because there will always be people out there who will have a different point of view to yours.
Roberts-Smith became a little stressed today with the line of questioning of Owens:
[‘Ben Roberts-Smith has engaged in a fiery exchange with the lawyer for Channel 9, calling accusations he cheated on his bravery medal to cover up killing a teenager “disgusting”.
Sensational allegations were made on day six of Ben Roberts-Smith’s cross-examination suggesting had “exaggerated” his bravery to win a medal and had really just shot an unarmed teenage boy.
Nine newspaper’s lawyer alleged Mr Roberts-Smith’s act of bravery, in Afghanistan’s Chora Valley in 2006, was fictional and covered up a campaign of bullying of a young soldier who knew the truth.
In the Federal Court, Nicholas Owens SC said Mr Roberts-Smith had given untrue accounts of the engagement to media and in an interview with Australian War Memorial historian Dr Peter Pederson.
Mr Roberts-Smith agreed that he had “conflated” more than one battle when giving his account of the incident which won him his MG, but had not meant to.
Mr Owens retorted: “You only did that because you didn’t want the public to think the engagement for which you won the Medal of Gallantry (MG) was for shooting an unarmed teenager”.
Mr Roberts-Smith: “Not only do I find that a disgusting comment, it’s completely false.”]
https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/ben-robertssmith-takes-a-swipe-at-his-exwife/news-story/8983b3ff69c95009217ff35c4c24b6e7
Did someone say Firefox is back?
Simon Katich @ #1287 Thursday, June 24th, 2021 – 6:04 pm
Isn’t that the same as what everyone’s been saying? Don’t think anyone has said there’s an issue with Tesla or Amazon, or with transacting with them. Just that Musk and (perhaps) Bezos aren’t that great, as individuals. To put it mildly.
The change is being made by the business entity, at this point. Bezos and Elon could perish in a freak rocketry accident tomorrow and the businesses would go on. They don’t really need indefinite free points for making change. Their billions of dollars are reward enough for that.
I’m looking forward to Courtney Act’s One plus One.
Is it too late for BRS to settle out of court and announce his foes had a humiliating backdown?
Mavis
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Mr Roberts-Smith agreed that he had “conflated” more than one battle when giving his account of the incident which won him his MG, but had not meant to.
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Bloody hell.
‘Simon Katich says:
Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 7:01 pm
Is it too late for BRS to settle out of court and announce his foes had a humiliating backdown?’
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My understanding is that it takes two to settle. On the evidence to date, it would seem that one side has zero motivation to settle.
There’s a multitude of reasons somebody blocks somebody else here or elsewhere on the internet that are more valid than just “I don’t agree with them.” Often the person blocked isn’t actually offering anything interesting and is just annoying. Also, there are those who claim they want to “debate” but actually just want to harass people who think differently than them. I don’t hold it against anybody for utilising a block/ignore function online. You do whatever makes you feel comfortable.
And if your experience is diminished because you are just blocking out alternative or challenging views and preferring to hide in a bubble, that’s your problem not mine.
Bill Bowtel on the Project getting stuck into NSW and the lack of vaccination
Isn’t that the same as what everyone’s been saying?
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I believe the thread started with a post about a petition requesting Bezos die in space (owtte).
So…. are you saying it is fine to have these people build up significant enterprise and then when they annoy us we can have them topped but thank them for all the fish (yes yes – the reference doesn’t quite make sense)?
Some interesting data on long covid in this study:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/long-covid-nsw-research-five-per-cent-of-patients-slow-recovery/100241420
Prof Poole said that there is no proven percentage of vax that will confer immunity on a popn. Gave example of Seychelles over 80% (?) And still had a surge.
Guinness book of records stuff of legends?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/24/the-longest-of-covids-the-man-infected-for-10-months
CC, for you if you’re still about. (Elon)
https://amultiverse.com/comic/2018/07/14/the-problem-solver/
All I can say is:
Wat Tyler the Fuck: Blocked
Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?
LR
Lol.. thanks 🙂
Adani – now Bravus – strikes first coal seam at Carmichael mine in Galilee Basin
https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/2a6242cbfaaef0070f466f63f911d98d?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&cropH=974&cropW=1732&xPos=0&yPos=90&width=862&height=485
Bravus – formerly known as Adani – says it has struck coal for the first time at the Carmichael mine in Queensland’s Galilee Basin.
The milestone means the extraction of thermal coal at the 44,700-hectare site can begin.
Chief executive David Boshoff said hitting the first seam was a moment of triumph after years of work.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/bravus-formerly-adani-strikes-carmichael-mine-coal-seam/100241500
Good analysis, IMO.
Who would want to negotiate with Frost? And who would then trust Boris to stick to what Frost had negotiated?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/22/they-might-have-got-more-brexit-sense-out-of-frosty-the-snowman
Lizzie
It looks a demo of choice of vaccine does matter. Over half of the Seychelles people received Sinopharm. This has much lower efficacy than the others. Even so it still seems to be helping as from your link
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“We do know that about two-thirds of those who tested positive largely had mild or no symptoms, according to the country’s health commissioner, Dr Jude Gedeon.
Of those who needed admission to hospital, 80% were people who hadn’t been vaccinated, and a majority of these also had other health conditions.”
laughtongsays:
Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 5:51 pm
Comment on today’s Guardian Blog. Very well written.
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Did they explain why the Vic govt requested ADF support and then withdrew it a couple of days later ?
Or why United was chosen to do the bulk of the security work but was not an approved service provider ?
Firefox
Time to ramp up another Bob Brown convoy of clowns to SE Queensland?
Worked wonders last time..
Project now has Barry Cassidy on talking about the Nats bizarre actions today
Lizzie
That simply ignores the issue of which vaccine was in use. In the case of the Seychelles it was 57 percent Sinopharm and 43 percent Astra Zeneca.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-20/covid-surging-in-seychelles-worlds-most-vaccinated-country-why/100151306
A reminder of who has thrown Australia into another Covid crisis through indolence and pride…
boerwar
10 months , an amateur. This guy got it March 2020 and pulled the plug on himself a few days back.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/19/britains-longest-known-coronavirus-patient-dies-aged-49