With the last open thread threatening to fall off the bottom page amid a thicket of Queensland and US-specific posts, here’s a refresher. Newspoll is having an off-week to avoid Queensland election static, although Essential Research should be along with its fortnightly attitudinal results tomorrow. All I have to relate other than that is:
• There has apparently been progress in the establishing of an Australian Polling Council, potentially meaning a new age of full disclosure by pollsters of their weights and breakdowns. Its members are YouGov, Essential Research, Ipsos, uComms, JWS Research, Lonergan Research and Telereach.
• The Australia Institute has published a report on attitudes to climate change that I’m a little too busy for right now, but you can find it here.
• Kos Samaras of RedBridge Group discusses polling conducted in September showing 57% of Melburnians think the state Liberal opposition has not “played a constructive role during this pandemic.
Trump’s job interview.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1323029752496627712
Can’t imagine anyone other than the ~40% of people already in the die-hard Trump camp look at that kind of stunt and think “you know, that really makes me want to vote for Trump”. Tend to think most people would conclude the opposite.
A r
Trump is relying on people with no brain.
Socrates says:
Monday, November 2, 2020 at 10:15 am
“Robert Fisk, veteran British foreign correspondent, dies aged 74”
RIP. Fisk’s “The Great War for Civilisation” is one of the best books on middle east history and politics I have ever read. It rips to shreds the justifications for the invasion of Iraq, and covers so much more as well.
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It was a great book but i absolutely hated it and had to stop reading it out of disgust at world leaders and how at times they act.
He should have revealed it. Alarm may have saved lives around the world.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-02/prince-william-reportedly-contracted-coronavirus-covid-19-april/12838110
OK Victorians. Time to honour Bond, James Bond. So for Sean Connery let’s see you get OO 7 times.
Interesting another post gets deleted by the moderator…..
Guytaur
Not the same Prince William that was filmed joking about the seriousness of the virus. 😉
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-02/sa-mp-fraser-ellis-defends-spending-on-family-newspaper-business/12763532
South Australian country Liberal MP Fraser Ellis says he is entitled to spend thousands of taxpayers’ dollars on a business owned by his family, amid questions over whether he has a potential conflict of interest.
That’s because he’s paid the big bucks. He’s an authoritAH on everything.
The Green’s campaign against Trad was up there with LNP, Palmer filthy tactics.
Let’s hope some of the bile used on the ground campaign gets exposed to the wider public.
lizzie, do you know what the differently coloured backgrounds represent? I don’t know most of the faces.
LR Green House of Reps red Senate
Late Riser
Green backgrounds for HoR and Red for Senators.
Ah. Thank you both.
The only one i can’t name is between Patterson and McKenzie.
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2020/oct/28/australia-politics-live-news-coronavirus-melbourne-lockdown-lifted-daniel-andrews-scott-morrison-josh-frydenberg-senate-estimates
Labor sought to pressure the employment minister, Michaelia Cash, over a grants program that caused more than $4m in funds to flow overwhelmingly to Coalition seats. Cash denied any politicisation of the scheme
Btw, Gladys Liu is in middle row – first one.
Re post earlier today by Lizzie I think “Trump is the leader of a cult. They are brainwashed buffoons. It is a real worry.”
I camped with 3 males all from the building industry a few weeks ago. All multi generational Aussies and all so totally and evangelically behind Trump it was scary. One was only in his early 30’s, the others 60ish. The fact the young guy in particular was so brainwashed totally blew me away and I wondered how it has gotten to this in Australia.
Was it the years of talkback radio and Jones/Hadley blaring out the radio on the job site or the daily toilet paper headlines. None could name one positive thing Trump had done though.
Mexicanbeemer: David Van (apparently). Never heard of him.
Terminator
Pure brainwashing by RW media, obviously. I wonder how they felt about Obama. Perhaps best not to enquire.
David Van is a Lib Senator – during Senate Estimates a week or two ago he quizzed the ABC chair about funding reporting in such an inept way the chair, I think a lib, shut him down.
Van and the SA senator, Antic, represent the new boys on the block with undistinguished parliamentary careers assured.
Terminator, I obviously don’t know your camping colleagues, but from my limited observations Trump appeals to struggling men because it gives them permission to belittle others and feel better about themselves. There’s no logic in it.
Terminator
My moans that we are being ‘Americanised’ have probably been dismissed for some time, but with sadness I’m now justified, I think.
I think time and events have taken the wind out of Petulant Peta’s sails.
D @ #159 Monday, November 2nd, 2020 – 11:33 am
Oh, but Teh Greens are as pure as Snow White and the driven snow! 🙄
Fulvio Sammut @ #173 Monday, November 2nd, 2020 – 12:07 pm
Sounds like she is tacking in a different direction now. Ever opportunistic, ever dismissive of the reality.
More Scandalous than you can poke a stick at, but the greens just want to belittle Labor Party…
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/02/angus-taylor-v-clover-moore-whatsapp-messages-reveal-panic-as-ministers-staff-realised-figures-were-wrong
Angus Taylor was told almost immediately after his office disseminated figures about the Sydney lord mayor Clover Moore’s spending on travel last year that the numbers were wrong, new documents obtained by Guardian Australia reveal.
But despite that, the federal energy minister and the Daily Telegraph, which reported the figures on 30 September 2019, did nothing to correct the record until Moore wrote a formal letter of complaint on 22 October. Guardian Australia revealed the mistake soon afterwards, prompting questions in parliament.
The Guardian has now obtained more documents and been informed by Taylor’s office that the two staff referred to in the documents have left his employment.
Terminator
It has been that way for many years. When Howard started his “boat people” crap it filled me with dread when it came to Labor’s chances. All the bullshit about refugees, immigrants etc etc was exactly the stuff I heard across building site after building site. Effing ‘tradies’ lapped it up. The local ‘shout back’ radio seemed to be the station of choice everywhere. Your experience is no surprise 🙁
guytaur says:
Monday, November 2, 2020 at 11:00 am
Zerlo
Labor won a majority in the Queensland election. They too could show leadership by having a Green Minister just like Ardern and ACT Labor.
It won’t happen.
Qld Labor obviously know the best thing to do with the Greens is to fend them off with a long pole. Labor just a won very impressively in part by keeping the Greens at a very safe distance. This will not be lost on anyone in Labor. The path to the restoration of Labor’s Federal PV in QLD lies in visibly repelling Greenware.
Should be on the Queensland thread, I know…
When you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas.
I would have though Carping Credlin would have awoken to this reality the second time around.
He might need something a little sturdier
Well that’s easy. “Zero new cases”. Justification complete.
Meanwhile on the trade front…………..
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australian-lobster-exports-feared-latest-victim-of-china-tensions-20201101-p56ak0.html
Or
Thanks a different Michael.
Is it the pollies? their staff? the cleaners?
I’m not sure it would help if we knew.
a r says:
Monday, November 2, 2020 at 12:16 pm
Acting federal Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly saying on @RNBreakfast this morning that Dan Andrews will have to justify his extended lockdown to the Vic public.
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a.r
He will in two years time and i expect he will be easily returned so acting CMO can go away.
Interstate rivalry alone will do it 😆
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/major-australian-covid-milestone/12837652
Relevant quote of Kelly around 6 mins.
Taking what he said away from the surrounding sentences is prone to mislead.
Another act of Liberal stupidity bites the dust
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/court-finds-curfew-was-legal-dismisses-case-against-andrews-government-20201102-p56aon.html.
Frednk
Peta Credlin the aspiring next Premier of Victoria aired her bombshell expose. Andrews should be resigning any day now.
Thank you all for the responses to my camping buddies post.
Lizzie – Obama was absolutely slagged by one guy in particular. He then did the same for Hillary before proceeding to rant about Dan Andrews. The other two were nodding in agreement all the while. I have known then all for years and they are not “bad” people. If you needed a hand you would get it from them all. This is the first time politics was mentioned (not be me) and I hope the last!
United States :
Coronavirus Cases:
9,473,911
Deaths:
236,471
– 71,321 new cases and 399 new deaths in the United States
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
The MSM were waiting with their headlines and stories written around how bad it all was for Albanese that Queensland labor had been forced into minority government and how great it was for Morrison after campaigning in Queensland.
There were glimpses of this in the Australian on Friday and in the Channel nine Brisbane Times. Sadly ( for the media) it all blew up in their faces and they are not happy. All they have now is a vacuum and the “ journos” looking for something with which to fill it and all they can come up with is the puerile “ all due to Covid “.
The same thing happened after the super by election Saturday. After weeks of throwing shit at Shorten and playing up internal conflict the results blew them out of the water. They were ready to print story after story around the terminal leadership of Shorten, how Albanese was on the rise and how great a campaigner Turnbull was. Sadly ( for the MSM) they were left with nothing. The same is happening now.
I love sitting back and watching the MSM scratch around looking for something, anything negative to say about the Queensland win and “ how bad it all is for Albanese”.
They really are sad individuals and the MSM in Australia really is a flock of pathetic irrelevants.
Just love it.
Bizarre this, watching US society unravel in real time.
Deb has quit as LNP leader: