More affairs of state

More evidence of a tight contest looming in Queensland while Mark McGowan reigns supreme in Western Australia; and a parliamentary committee in Victoria kicks the upper house electoral reform can down the road.

Not every state this time, but half:

Victoria

The Victorian parliament’s electoral matters committee has tabled the report of its inquiry into the 2018 state election, of which the greatest item of interest is a full chapter devoted to reform of the upper house electoral system. Together with Western Australia, Victoria is the last hold-out of the group voting ticket system that is electing ever-increasing numbers of preference-harvesting micro-party candidates. This reached a new height at the 2018 election, at which parties other than the Coalition, Labor and the Greens won 10 out of the 40 seats in the Legislative Council, including two elected with less than 1% of the vote. However, the report recommended only that a further parliamentary inquiry be held into the matter. The report also recommends no change to the two-week period for pre-polling, which the Liberals and Nationals called to be shortened.

Queensland

Polling of the marginal state seats of Currumbin, Mansfield and Aspley by YouGov for the Australian Conservation Foundation shows a combined two-party result of 52-48 for Labor, compared with an almost exact 50-50 for these three seats in 2017. The primary votes are Labor 37%, LNP 37%, Greens 10%, One Nation 4% and 10% don’t know, compared with 2017 election results of Labor 41.2%, LNP 38.4%, Greens 10.6% and One Nation 8.5%. The poll was conducted from August 17-19 and targeted 200 respondents in each of the three electorates.

Western Australia

A poll for The West Australian by Painted Dog Research showed Mark McGowan with an approval rating at 91%, up four from an already stratospheric result in June. Support for the state’s border closure was at 92%, up from 89% in May. The poll was conducted from a sample of 837, with field work dates not provided.

Northern Territory

As related in the dedicated post, the CLP sneaked home in an eighth seat in the Northern Territory election as the count concluded last night, producing a final result of Labor 14, CLP eight, Territory Alliance one and independents two.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. lizzie @ #997 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 10:01 am

    Ben Cubby
    @bencubby
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    Exclusive: Labor prepares to fight against the federal government’s ‘gas-led recovery’ plan, as a leaked draft shows clean energy and renewables funds would be redirected to prop up carbon capture and gas projects.

    https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/government-to-fund-gas-and-carbon-storage-via-clean-energy-programs-20200906-p55svj.html

    Ah, at last, clear lines of deliniation in the fight.

  2. Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #999 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 10:06 am

    C@tmomma @ #980 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 7:52 am

    Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #923 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 8:10 am

    C@tmomma @ #898 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 5:35 am

    zoomster @ #905 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 7:29 am

    Stolen from facebook, as a timely reminder to us all:

    “Big Brother is not watching you. No one is. You’re boring.”

    Except if you live in China.

    Really??

    Do tell.

    You can read any one of these 47400 articles if you like.

    Which articles?

    They may want to do so, as would many other Countries, but they do not have the ability to do so.

    I was talking yesterday to a colleague who recently moved from China and he made reference to the number of times he had to report to the police when he travelled within the Country.

    So if they can’t automatically keep track of a relatively small number of foreigners, it’s highly unlikely that they can do so for their own people.

    I think the point is that they DO already do it for their own people but find it harder to do for foreigners. WeChat is monitored by state censors and the facial recognition database and social credit systems are up and running.

    They are also cracking down very forcefully in Hong Kong. So it’s just not correct to say there is no Big Brother. China is the template. It may not be happening overnight but it is happening.

  3. mundo

    Firstly, I don’t think that was the kind of boost meant.

    Secondly, what ‘die is cast’? All indications are that Dan Andrews has wide public support for his actions.

    Yes, the media are against him, but they’ve been against him for the last two elections, and the more they’re against him the better he seems to do at the polls.

  6. zoomster @ #1000 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 10:18 am

    mundo

    Firstly, I don’t think that was the kind of boost meant.

    Secondly, what ‘die is cast’? All indications are that Dan Andrews has wide public support for his actions.

    Yes, the media are against him, but they’ve been against him for the last two elections, and the more they’re against him the better he seems to do at the polls.

    Oh, well that’s ok then.
    The die is retrieved.
    Labor wins, at last.
    Albo and Jimbo can go back to their coma, all’s well.
    Scrooter is toast!

    Toast I tells ya!@!@!@!$%$@#!!@!@!!

  7. lizzie @ #995 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 10:01 am

    Ben Cubby
    @bencubby
    ·
    46m
    Exclusive: Labor prepares to fight against the federal government’s ‘gas-led recovery’ plan, as a leaked draft shows clean energy and renewables funds would be redirected to prop up carbon capture and gas projects.

    https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/government-to-fund-gas-and-carbon-storage-via-clean-energy-programs-20200906-p55svj.html

    ‘Labor prepares to fight against the federal government’s….’ pretty sure we know how that’ll turn out then.

  11. James Dunstan
    @snowycats
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    3m
    @theage
    The Age recruited Chip Le Grand from The Australian. His blind support of conservatives and attacks on Labor and Premier Andrews just continue as if he was at The Australian. Newspapers don’t run things – thank goodness. The Age subscription not worth it.

  12. C@tmomma @ #992 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 8:12 am

    Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #999 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 10:06 am

    …
    Which articles?

    They may want to do so, as would many other Countries, but they do not have the ability to do so.

    I was talking yesterday to a colleague who recently moved from China and he made reference to the number of times he had to report to the police when he travelled within the Country.

    So if they can’t automatically keep track of a relatively small number of foreigners, it’s highly unlikely that they can do so for their own people.

    I think the point is that they DO already do it for their own people but find it harder to do for foreigners. WeChat is monitored by state censors and the facial recognition database and social credit systems are up and running.

    They are also cracking down very forcefully in Hong Kong. So it’s just not correct to say there is no Big Brother. China is the template. It may not be happening overnight but it is happening.

    And the US and others don’t try to do these things?

    I think you’ll find that random identification of anyone in a public space is very, very difficult.

    It certainly becomes an easier exercise if you have a specific person that you are looking for, but it is still very difficult.

    Have you been through Customs with an e-Passport? You need to stand in a certain position and remain still and even then it doesn’t always come up with a match. Add movement and random positions into the equation and it becomes a far more difficult exercise.

  13. I’ve just had a text from my middle favourite daughter saying the Aged Care Facility at which she is a Registered Nurse is still in lockdown so that there are lots of What’s App family calls starting early and there are 2 hour a week visits this week.

    I have no idea of the state of play regarding Covid19 within the facility. Being a facility at Batemans Bay and being surrounded with bush fires just a few months ago I hope that the oldies are doing well. I’m an oldie myself and seeing video of various residents lately I would fit in nicely in many establishments.

    Lawn mowing today. 2000 steps so far and a little more to go today. Brilliant weather in Newcastle although I expect a one percent hike in tax will be raised to pay for that. ☀️🌞

  14. Joe O’Brien on @abcnews is interviewing a Melbourne beautician who doesn’t understand why her industry hasn’t been prioritised in the #COVIDVIC19 roadmap.

    Mental health, you know. Facial massage is so vital. 😆

  19. The press completely ignoring Scomo’s claims that the $200 million dollar bushfire recovery fund he promised is “not needed”.

    But he built a cubby house.

  21. Mundo, in yet another orgy of self-reflection after telling everyone yesterday not to be so predictable and boring, writes:

    Righto, I’m off to fight tories with my the-recession-we-were-going-to-have-anyway sword…..I sure had fun yesterday….

    Tallyho!

    Perhaps if Albo and his shadow cabinet chucked brown-eyes and threw poo at ScoMo across the floor of Parliament they’d impress Mundo.

    Then again, Mundo is a hard person to impress.

  23. Today marks 7 years since the Coalition were elected to power in 2013 after the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd Disaster.

    Today marks 7 years of the Abbott-Turnbull-Morrison…. disaster?

  28. mundo

    ‘Oh, well that’s ok then.
    The die is retrieved.
    Labor wins, at last.’

    We were talking about Victoria. Why did you shift the goalposts? (Doesn’t Victoria fit into your narrative?)

    Labor has won in Victoria, twice.

    No ‘at last’ about it.

    So, explain – what do you mean when you say ‘the die is cast’ in relation to Victoria?

  30. Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #1011 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 10:33 am

    C@tmomma @ #992 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 8:12 am

    Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #999 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 10:06 am

    …
    Which articles?

    They may want to do so, as would many other Countries, but they do not have the ability to do so.

    I was talking yesterday to a colleague who recently moved from China and he made reference to the number of times he had to report to the police when he travelled within the Country.

    So if they can’t automatically keep track of a relatively small number of foreigners, it’s highly unlikely that they can do so for their own people.

    I think the point is that they DO already do it for their own people but find it harder to do for foreigners. WeChat is monitored by state censors and the facial recognition database and social credit systems are up and running.

    They are also cracking down very forcefully in Hong Kong. So it’s just not correct to say there is no Big Brother. China is the template. It may not be happening overnight but it is happening.

    And the US and others don’t try to do these things?

    I think you’ll find that random identification of anyone in a public space is very, very difficult.

    It certainly becomes an easier exercise if you have a specific person that you are looking for, but it is still very difficult.

    Have you been through Customs with an e-Passport? You need to stand in a certain position and remain still and even then it doesn’t always come up with a match. Add movement and random positions into the equation and it becomes a far more difficult exercise.

    The point I am trying to make is that it is the intention of the Chinese Administration to create a system of population-wide monitoring of the citizenry via social control and social credit, using whatever tools are available. If a new tool becomes available, they will use it to ‘improve’ their system. I have no doubt as to their intentions.

  31. Listening to La Trioli on the radio while walking the dog. Caught the start of an interesting ‘Chat Room’ with Katherine Murphy from the Guardian. Discussion started with the Morrison v Andrews standoff now.

  32. C@tmomma @ #1021 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 8:56 am

    …

    The point I am trying to make is that it is the intention of the Chinese Administration to create a system of population-wide monitoring of the citizenry via social control and social credit, using whatever tools are available. If a new tool becomes available, they will use it to ‘improve’ their system. I have no doubt as to their intentions.

    And no other Country is trying to do this?

  33. Yairs mates (poor Chips Rafferty imitation) if my TV was smart it would trundle out to my newly mowed footpath verge and beg one of the passers by to take it to a home wot respects it’s abilities. 📺

  35. In an interview with Sky News, Bowen said premiers all around the country should listen to health advice rather than “the ravings of federal Liberal backbenchers trying to make a name for themselves”.

    “It’s not team Australia any more, it’s not all in it together,” Bowen said, arguing some in the federal government were eager to “hammer the states” particularly the Labor-run states.

  36. Bushfire Bill @ #1021 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 10:44 am

    Mundo, in yet another orgy of self-reflection after telling everyone yesterday not to be so predictable and boring, writes:

    Righto, I’m off to fight tories with my the-recession-we-were-going-to-have-anyway sword…..I sure had fun yesterday….

    Tallyho!

    Perhaps if Albo and his shadow cabinet chucked brown-eyes and threw poo at ScoMo across the floor of Parliament they’d impress Mundo.

    Then again, Mundo is a hard person to impress.

    No that wouldn’t impress Mundo.
    This would though;
    ‘The pandemic shouldn’t be used to let this government off the hook.
    The recession is a product of mismanagement of the economy over the past 7 years and nothing will change that. The pandemic makes things far more challenging of course, but that’s what worries me. If Morrison and Fredenburg couldn’t manage things before the pandemic what confidence can we have in them now’.
    Mr Chalmers said in a stinging attack on the government’s record.

  37. zoomster @ #1028 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 10:49 am

    mundo

    ‘Oh, well that’s ok then.
    The die is retrieved.
    Labor wins, at last.’

    We were talking about Victoria. Why did you shift the goalposts? (Doesn’t Victoria fit into your narrative?)

    Labor has won in Victoria, twice.

    No ‘at last’ about it.

    So, explain – what do you mean when you say ‘the die is cast’ in relation to Victoria?

    Wait and see, eh?

  38. Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #1031 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 10:58 am

    C@tmomma @ #1021 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 8:56 am

    …

    The point I am trying to make is that it is the intention of the Chinese Administration to create a system of population-wide monitoring of the citizenry via social control and social credit, using whatever tools are available. If a new tool becomes available, they will use it to ‘improve’ their system. I have no doubt as to their intentions.

    And no other Country is trying to do this?

    That’s not my point. My point is that China is at the forefront. They are the ones developing the new technology and rolling it out. They are the ones who already have banned social media companies from their country and funnel their citizens through a state-censored platform. Other countries may be doing it too but you can guarantee that countries like Iran, Russia and Saudi Arabia, to name but a few, will have collaborated with China or purchased their programs from China. China IS at the vanguard of Big Brother in the 21st century. To deny it is to deny that reality.

    Also, I’m sorry but I must go and finish packing to move house. We move in 2 days!

  39. In parts of north west UK where Covid is considered endemic there are over 50 Covid cases per 100,000
    In the south east there are 1.5 cases per 100,000

    Wyndham has 2168 cases in population of 255322. Ie 750 cases per 100,000

    Brimbank had 1949 cases in population of 208,714 ie 950 cases in 100,000 people or currently sound 140 active cases or 70 active cases per 100,000 people, in UK that would be considered ENDEMIC

    Can Australia function with food & liquor warehouses full of Covid workers? And Australia’s truck drivers spreading the virus? Do you wash all food packages before loading them into fridge & pantry? Well we should!

    I am surprised at the outbreaks at Dowell windows & Vawdrey truck trailers.

    Oh well if the poor contract Covid and are left with chronic lung complaints they won’t get old enough to collect an aged pension (money saved) but oh no they won’t go into aged care homes (what will the shareholders do)

  40. lizzie @ #1034 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 11:01 am

    In an interview with Sky News, Bowen said premiers all around the country should listen to health advice rather than “the ravings of federal Liberal backbenchers trying to make a name for themselves”.

    “It’s not team Australia any more, it’s not all in it together,” Bowen said, arguing some in the federal government were eager to “hammer the states” particularly the Labor-run states.

    It’s about time federal Labor started hammering that point.

    Silence on the Liberal States. Megaphone yammering about the Labor States.

  41. Note that these health workers wore PPE.

    The three new cases reported today are:
    -A healthcare worker who worked at Concord ED on 1 September from 7pm until 7am and while potentially infectious.
    -Two healthcare workers who worked at Liverpool ED on 2, 3 and 4 September.

    NSW Health said the three newly reported health workers reported having no symptoms while at work and wore personal protective equipment while caring for patients.


  45. poroti says:
    Monday, September 7, 2020 at 10:01 am

    Lots of use of ‘decarbonising the economy’ and all clean and green . However they do not mention how the hydrogen will be produced. Which of course means it will use coal. Which means shit loads of CO2 being produced. What a con job. The basic equation is
    CH (coal) + O2 + H2O → CO + CO2 + H2 + other species
    The CO will be further combusted to CO2 so for every Hydrogen we get 2 CO2.

    It is one of many ways, but yes, this equation ( steam reforming) is cheap but a bit of dead end.

  46. Swingkitten
    @swingkitten
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    54m
    I represent 207 Melbourne small businesses. Not one of them wants to re-open and then face another lockdown in the coming months. As painful as this is, they want this virus suppressed & manageable ready for them to rebuild.

  47. frednk
    It may be a dead end but you can bet your bottom dollar that is what they want to use. There are coal and CSG maaates to keep happy.

  48. Saint Scotty of the Cubby House Marketing is just going to keep pushing for the states to open because the pressure from the big donors and big end of town is starting to intensify I expect.

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