Nothing succeeds like secession

A new poll finds a certain amount of support for Western Australia to go it alone, as the Federal Court finds facts in Clive Palmer’s constitutional challenge against the state’s border closures.

The West Australian has a poll today from Painted Dog Research showing 34% out of 837 respondents from the state favour secession for Western Australia. However, the utility of this finding is limited by the report’s failure to offer any insight as to how many of the other 66% were actively opposed and how many uncommitted, if indeed the latter was provided as an option. The poll also finds “close to three-quarters” think the federal government has put the needs of the eastern states ahead of Western Australia during the pandemic. I wouldn’t normally consider such a poll front page news, but it’s past time for a new general discussion thread, so here it is.

There is also the following:

• Since Tuesday’s post from Adrian Beaumont on the extraordinary finding of a Reid Research poll of voting intention in New Zealand, the other regular pollster in the country, Colmar Brunton, has produced a somewhat more modest result: Labour 53%, National 32%, Greens 5%, ACT New Zealand 4.8% and New Zealand First 2%. It also finds Jacinda Ardern with a 54-20 lead over the new National leader, Judith Collins, as preferred prime minister. There’s an interesting discussion on polling in the country, the record of which is apparently very good, on Radio New Zealand’s The Detail program.

• As noted in my popular dedicated post on the subject, elections will be held today for two seats in Tasmania’s Legislative Council. One of these at least, for the Launceston region seat of Rosevears, includes both Liberal and Labor candidates, and might be seen as some sort of barometer for the state’s new-ish Premier, Peter Gutwein, who has been recording exceptionally strong poll ratings amid the COVID-19 crisis. Live coverage of the count will, as ever, commence here at 6pm.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  2. Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians, Richard Colbeck, is earning his pay by telling us he has no plan to help save the people who are supposed to be the sole focus of his highly paid job. In fact, he admits he has absolutely no idea what to do (from the ABC):

    Ultimately, Aged Care Minister Richard Colbeck said aged care homes could not be protected unless COVID-19 was contained.

    “The way that we will stop COVID-19 in residential aged care facilities is the same way we will stop it everywhere else in the community, which is by stamping out community spread,” he said

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-27/aged-care-coronavirus-victoria-national-outbreaks/12494454

    The ‘no-plan’ plan. The same one he has had ever since the Aged Care Royal Commission issued its interim report last year.

  3. Brad Rowswell MP
    @BradRowswell
    Level 1:
    An hour ago I was alerted to this image in Highett. I have since contacted @BaysideCouncil
    to urgently have it removed.

    There is much that @DanielAndrewsMP
    and I disagree about, but to denigrate Victoria’s Premier in this way is shameful and un-Australian

    #springst

  4. Australia. Belgium. Hong Kong. Israel. Spain. Vietnam.

    Places around the world that fought back novel coronavirus outbreaks in the spring are reporting record surges in new cases. In the United States, Arizona, Florida and Texas, along with other states, have become epicenters, whereas New York City bore the brunt in March and April.

    Many countries have celebrated contractions in case numbers, only to see new spikes. According to some public officials, a second swell is around the corner. “I’m afraid you are starting to see in some places the signs of a second wave,” British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said earlier this week.

    Not so fast or simple, many researchers warn.

    “We are still in the first wave,” said Loren Lipworth, an epidemiologist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. “As we ease up on restrictions, there is always going to be a resurgence in cases. It’s not that it’s a new wave of the virus.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/07/31/second-wave-coronavirus-scientists-say-world-is-still-deep-first/

    Their leaders better resign, now! 🙄

  5. Maude Lynne

    The arsehole Colbeck following the Scrott arse covering hymn sheet. Making out they were ‘innocent victims’ of community transmission. Community transmission was the villain and we all ‘know’ whose fault community transmission is. 🙁

  7. Morrison, Frydenberg and the rest of the government have been unrealistic about an early “snapback”, leading to an unwise optimism and the ignoring of caution in people. Morrison is too keen to persuade us that he has “fixed it”.

    Gittins:

    Surely we should have realised by now that the pandemic will be a long-haul flight. Speaking of which, our barriers against the rest of the world are likely to stay up long after the 12th day of Christmas.

    Economically, we must make the best of it we can – which won’t be anything like as good as we’d like. Forcing the pace on lifting the lockdown and removing the interstate barriers could easily end up setting us back rather than moving us forward.

    What economists seem yet to understand is that, psychologically, what we have to do to keep the virus controlled is the opposite to what you’d do to hasten an economic recovery. To ensure people keep mask-wearing, hand-washing, sanitising, social-distancing and filling out a form every time they walk into a cafe for month after month, you keep them in a state of fear, afraid the virus may bite them at any moment.

    https://www.theage.com.au/business/the-economy/morrison-s-not-doing-nearly-enough-to-secure-our-future-20200731-p55h9g.html

  9. poroti @ #5 Saturday, August 1st, 2020 – 7:51 am

    Maude Lynne

    The arsehole Colbeck following the Scrott arse covering hymn sheet. Making out they were ‘innocent victims’ of community transmission. Community transmission was the villain and we all ‘know’ whose fault community transmission is. 🙁

    The casualised workforce. And we ALL know whose fault that is! 😡

  10. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    George Megalogenis says that the twin baggage of pride and ideology is impeding the pandemic strategy. He points very clearly at the Howard model of privatisation.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-twin-baggage-of-pride-and-ideology-impeding-the-pandemic-strategy-20200716-p55cq1.html
    And Paul Bongiorno explains how the aged-care failings have hurt Scott Morrison.
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2020/08/01/aged-care-failings-hurt-morrison/159620400010202
    Peter Hartcher – the ascent of Scott Morrison, from Trump’s mini-me to national leader.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-ascent-of-scott-morrison-from-trump-s-mini-me-to-national-leader-20200731-p55hbc.html
    In this very good essay, Jack Waterford thinks that it is about time Albanese came out into the open, Waterford says Morrison has never been so vulnerable to fundamental attack. It is about time the Albanese army began probing his defences.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6858118/the-courage-deficit-will-albanese-die-wondering/?cs=14329
    Laura Tingle thinks that leaders need to change gear for a much longer war.
    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/leaders-need-to-change-gear-for-a-much-longer-war-20200731-p55h7e
    Mike Seccombe floats the idea that Frydenberg might have been serious in invoking Thatcher and Reagan and might fight this crisis by printing more money.
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/economy/2020/08/01/could-frydenberg-ease-this-crisis-printing-money/159620400010187
    Anthony Galloway and Eryk Bagshaw say that Australia’s insistence on travelling to Washington this week was not about kowtowing to its major security ally; it was about ensuring Australia has a seat at the table in shaping the future of the Indo-Pacific.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/united-front-why-payne-and-reynolds-went-to-washington-20200731-p55h82.html
    Peter van Onselen writes, “Parliament matters. It is a cornerstone of our democratic polity. That the executive and Prime Minister consider it irrelevant enough to junk sittings isn’t something to be applauded or allowed to continue without comment.”
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/parliament-needs-to-get-back-to-work-too/news-story/7cbe97fa3a94044850e396c4e47c4a20
    Rob Harris says that the next few days will be critical for moth Morrison and Andrews.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/impossible-decisions-face-victoria-as-covd-19-cases-remain-high-20200731-p55hee.html
    Scott Morrison and Daniel Andrews are locked in an Argentinian tango on coronavirus, but their grip is starting to slip, writes Katharine Murphy.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/01/daniel-andrews-and-scott-morrison-are-locked-in-an-argentinian-tango-on-coronavirus-but-their-grip-is-starting-to-slip
    Ross Gittins declares that Morrison’s not doing nearly enough to secure our future. He says there’s no shortage of good things worth spending on.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/morrison-s-not-doing-nearly-enough-to-secure-our-future-20200731-p55h9g.html
    Richard Denniss looks at the true cost of a traumatised nation.
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2020/08/01/the-true-cost-traumatised-nation/159620400010198
    The AFR tells us that Daniel Andrews is urging Morrison to inject a major financial package into the state to support struggling business hit by the COVID-19 lockdown, including extending JobKeeper, matching cash grants and targeted support for retail, hospitality and tourism.
    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/andrews-asks-pm-for-financial-lifeline-20200731-p55haj
    Patrick Durkin explains why Daniel Andrews can’t sleep at night.
    https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/why-daniel-andrews-can-t-sleep-at-night-20200730-p55gx5
    Adele Ferguson reports that NSW Treasury officials have warned $4 billion needs to be injected this year into the workers’ compensation insurance fund for police employees, nurses, prison guards and teachers to prevent it falling into deficit.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/treasury-warns-icare-fund-for-police-and-nurses-needs-4b-bailout-20200731-p55hew.html
    Melissa Cunningham writes that at least three Victorian healthcare workers, including a young trainee doctor, are in intensive care after contracting coronavirus, fuelling concerns for the safety of frontline medical teams.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/young-northern-health-doctor-in-icu-after-contracting-coronavirus-20200731-p55hbe.html
    According to Clay Lucas and Melissa Cunningham, the deregulation of Australia’s aged-care sector, relentless cost-cutting by operators and an industry plagued by severe staffing shortages meant the coronavirus crisis unfolding in Victoria’s nursing homes was “utterly predictable”.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/united-front-why-payne-and-reynolds-went-to-washington-20200731-p55h82.html
    The Australian government has hit out at “outlandish” claims that it covered up the role of federal officers in informally clearing passengers to disembark the Ruby Princess cruise ship after confusing flu and Covid-19 test results.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jul/31/coalition-denies-covering-up-border-force-role-in-letting-ruby-princess-passengers-go
    Christian Porter has emphasised the cost burden on struggling aged care businesses as the government considers whether to give more workers paid pandemic leave. It is my understanding that his ruling only applies to those on awards. A great number of aged care facilities operate on EBAs.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/pandemic-leave-a-cost-to-business-when-they-can-least-afford-it-christian-porter-20200731-p55hcr.html
    Fiona Carruthers writes about God’s waiting room: where the vulnerable care for the frail.
    https://www.afr.com/companies/healthcare-and-fitness/god-s-waiting-room-where-the-vulnerable-care-for-the-frail-20200731-p55ha4
    When it comes to the coronavirus supports offered by the Government for those on Centrelink payments, one cohort of society has been left mostly in the cold: disabled people, the elderly and carers, writes Chris Mordd Richards.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/disabled-elderly-and-carers–a-history-of-centrelink-coronavirus-supports,14153
    Victorians defying stay-at-home orders by leaving their homes while infected with COVID-19 are putting the nation at risk, leading public health experts have warned.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2020/07/31/victoria-coronavirus-stay-home/
    Rick Morton outlines new research that shows coronavirus may have lasting impacts on cognitive ability.
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/health/2020/08/01/lost-function-long-term-consequences-surviving-coronavirus/159620400010189
    Luke Henriques-Gomes reports on yesterday’s senate inquiry where the public servant who headed the department responsible for the robodebt program has said she does not accept there were any people who took their own lives as a result of the scheme. I was surprised Deb O’Neill didn’t jump over the desk and thump Kathryn Campbell!
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jul/31/not-correct-that-robodebt-caused-suicides-former-head-of-human-services-says
    Amelia Lester writes that there’s one fact about Australian life she cannot justify to befuddled foreigners, and that is that we are not led by an Australian.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/our-confusing-head-of-state-arrangement-time-for-a-royal-flush-20200626-p556hp.html
    Adam Cooper reports that the news outlets being sued by Ben Roberts-Smith over allegations he was involved in unlawful killings as an Australian soldier have been allowed to include new evidence about two deaths to strengthen their defence for a coming defamation trial.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/judge-rules-in-media-favour-over-ben-roberts-smith-evidence-20200729-p55gln.html
    Despite the National Covid-19 Coordination Commission having produced few tangible results thus far, Scott Morrison has appointed six new directors with a view to jobs creation says Margaret Simons.
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2020/08/01/new-mode-covid-19-board/159620400010184
    Peter Hannam looks at the surging incidence of household solar panels and the necessary distribution and power management issues that should be supported by ARENA, whose funding is all but depleted.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/new-power-source-for-nation-s-renewable-energy-agency-20200727-p55fsi.html
    Australia’s trilemma of providing good, fast and cheap energy finally has a clear solution, says Simon Holmes à Court. Worth reading.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/31/australias-trilemma-of-providing-good-fast-and-cheap-energy-finally-has-a-clear-solution
    Queensland Liberal National Party president David Hutchinson has bowed to internal pressure and stood down from the role just months out from the state election.
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/lnp-president-david-hutchinson-resigns-one-month-out-from-queensland-election/news-story/34c8e62e164b7d5e273438678db60f14
    Rio Tinto has just announced an astronomical profit, largely on the back of its continued exploitation of Indigenous land in WA. Yet Rio still does not have an Indigenous Australian in a senior executive role. To maintain its social licence the company must also move its headquarters to Australia and up its royalties, writes Stephen Mayne.
    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/rio-tinto-ditch-the-colonial-baggage-and-get-with-a-21st-century-program/
    Elizabeth Knight looks at the impact of the ACCC’s demands on Google and Facebook might pan out.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/cough-it-up-accc-demands-google-and-facebook-share-spoils-with-australian-media-20200731-p55hej.html
    Elizabeth Farrelly writes about the constant fight between nature and urbanisation with particular emphasis on coastal erosion.
    https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/we-can-t-beat-the-planet-into-submission-we-can-retreat-20200730-p55h2h.html
    In the face of the government’s inaction on the climate emergency, activists are turning to ‘world first’ lawsuits in an attempt to bring about change, writes Kieran Pender for The Saturday Paper.
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/environment/2020/08/01/suing-climate-action/159620400010196
    Australia’s ‘black summer’ bushfires showed the impact of human-wrought change, explains Tim Flannery.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/31/australias-black-summer-bushfires-showed-the-impact-of-human-wrought-change-aoe
    Researcher Chelsea Bond says that the ‘new’ Closing the Gap is about buzzwords, not genuine change for Indigenous Australia.
    https://theconversation.com/chelsea-bond-the-new-closing-the-gap-is-about-buzzwords-not-genuine-change-for-indigenous-australia-143681
    Matthew Knott says that America’s voting system will face its day of reckoning in November.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/america-s-voting-system-to-facing-its-reckoning-in-november-20200731-p55h6h.html
    With less than 100 days until the presidential election, we are entitled to be worried about the trajectory for democracy in the US. There will be hell to pay if Donald Trump loses, and chaotic repercussions if he wins, writes Chris Kenny.
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/there-will-be-hell-to-pay-if-donald-trump-loses-chaos-if-he-wins/news-story/ba3b9052c329c37e53a8e2c101fa76ca
    Greg Sheridan thinks Trump can still win.
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/in-strange-times-donald-trump-can-still-win-this-election/news-story/5975abcc3526eb07c32b9e4292085e5f
    Paul Krugman believes that Trump has led the US into an economic crisis that could leave scars. He paints a terrible picture of the nightmare that is America today.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/america-s-nightmare-trump-has-led-the-us-into-an-economic-crisis-that-could-leave-scars-20200731-p55h7r.html
    Who will choose the next US president – the American people, or Facebook, asks Jonathan Freedland.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/31/choose-us-president-mark-zuckerberg-american-people
    Idiot Trump has criticised Australia for its resurgence of coronavirus cases, using it as an example of a country that is now having “tremendous problems” dealing with the global pandemic.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-australia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-p55h8e.html
    Trump badly miscalculated in Portland – and even he knows it, opines Cas Mudde.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/31/trump-portland-antifa-voters-miscalculated
    Dozens of documents about dealings between Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein have been publicly released by a US court, where the British socialite faces criminal charges, she aided the late financier’s sexual abuse of girls.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/maxwell-documents-about-dealings-with-jeffrey-epstein-unsealed-20200731-p55hcz.html
    Ghislaine Maxwell sexually abused underage girls and joined Jeffrey Epstein in directing Virginia Roberts Giuffre to be sexually abused by others, Giuffre claimed in a cache of documents that has been unsealed in the US.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/31/ghislaine-maxwell-underage-girls-sex-jeffrey-epstein

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  13. If the virus is suddenly popping up in Aged Care homes across Melbourne, doesn’t that indicate that a person is responsible for carrying it around? Health Dept representatives? Registered Nurses? Food delivery service?

  15. Thank you B.K for this mornings dawn patrol, FFS Porter complaining that pandemic leave for aged care workers would cost the sector a few lousy dollars when they are on the brink of hundreds of deaths of the very people the workers care for are on the way due to the current infection rates.

  16. Maude Lynne

    Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians, Richard Colbeck, is earning his pay by telling us he has no plan to help save the people who are supposed to be the sole focus of his highly paid job. In fact, he admits he has absolutely no idea what to do (from the ABC):
    ————-
    What an absolute dynamo he is.

    It’s a credit to his towering competence that there are absolutely no problems in the whole aged “care” gulag.

  18. Free advice for nath. Get out of the entertainment industry business, unless you can make money out of sparsely-filled venues:

    The idea of a second wave is flawed and could be misleading, because it obscures the continuous threat the virus poses, along with the need to keep stringent measures in place, WHO spokesperson Margaret Harris said during a news briefing Tuesday.

    The WHO proposed a different turn of phrase: “One big wave.”

    The severity of the ongoing wave is modulated by the adoption of and adherence to policies mean to slow the spread, experts said.

    “What is affecting the transmission of this virus is mass gatherings, it is people coming together and people not social distancing, not taking the precautions to ensure they are not in close contact,” Harris said at the briefing.

    Lipworth and Weber shared the WHO’s assessment.

    “The first wave was always there but we were able to flatten it down,” Lipworth said. The “question is how long can we stay there.”

    Nobody should be surprised, she said, that cities or countries that rescinded restrictions swiftly without adopting strong, ongoing infection control measures have seen new spikes in cases.

    “As we ease up on restrictions, there are always going to be a resurgence in cases,” she said.

    Weber said he prefers to picture covid-19 as a wave that grows and shrinks — with two or perhaps many peaks.

    “It’s going to go up and down a bit,” Harris said. “The best thing is to flatten it and turn it into just something lapping at your feet.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/07/31/second-wave-coronavirus-scientists-say-world-is-still-deep-first/

  21. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/31/politics/senate-mcconnell-trump-firewall/index.html

    Washington (CNN)Sen. Mitch McConnell is allowing Republican Senate candidates to do whatever it takes to salvage their campaigns ahead of what Republicans increasingly fear could be a devastating election for their party.
    In recent weeks, the Senate majority leader has become so concerned over Republicans losing control of the Senate that he has signaled to vulnerable GOP senators in tough races that they could distance themselves from the President if they feel it is necessary, according to multiple senior Republicans including a source close to McConnell.
    That could mean breaking with Trump on the administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic and the continued efforts by the President to paint an optimistic picture despite rising cases and deaths across parts of the country, especially in many Republican states in the South and Midwest.

  22. Interesting side note about James and Kathryn Murdoch:

    Earlier this year, James Murdoch and his wife Kathryn criticized coverage of the climate crisis in the family’s outlets.

    “Kathryn and James’s views on climate are well-established, and their frustration with some of the News Corp and Fox coverage of the topic is also well-known,” a spokesperson for the couple said. “They are particularly disappointed with the ongoing denial among the news outlets in Australia given obvious evidence to the contrary.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jul/31/james-murdoch-resigns-board-news-corporation

  23. Who needs democracy when you can just appoint your mates to Parliament?

    “ RUTH Davidson (failed Scottish Tory leader), Boris Johnson’s brother, and a newspaper owner have all been given cushy jobs for life in the House of Lords.

    The Prime Minister also rewarded the former England cricketer Sir Ian Botham and billionaire Tory donor Michael Spencer.

    Ex-chancellors Philip Hammond and Ken Clarke have also been bumped up to the Upper Chamber, while Theresa May’s husband, Philip, will receive a knighthood for “political services”.

    The SNP’s Pete Wishart described it as the “worst kind of cronyism” while the Speaker of the House of Lords said it was a “vast pity” that so many new peers were being created. ”

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18621210.johnson-accused-rewarding-cronies-jobs-life-lords/

  24. Lots of news reports about how tired Dan is. Apparently he’s working late doing plenty of overtime. Someone start striking a medal for this guy! He’s tired from working so hard!

  25. Thanks BK for the Dawn Patrol.

    I note that you set a trap for young players – checking for the “pearls before swine” syndrome.

    According to Clay Lucas and Melissa Cunningham, the deregulation of Australia’s aged-care sector, relentless cost-cutting by operators and an industry plagued by severe staffing shortages meant the coronavirus crisis unfolding in Victoria’s nursing homes was “utterly predictable”.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/united-front-why-payne-and-reynolds-went-to-washington-20200731-p55h82.html

    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/aged-care-crisis-was-utterly-predictable-20200729-p55gou.html

    ☕☕

  26. Lots of news reports about how tired Dan is. Apparently he’s working late doing plenty of overtime. Someone start striking a medal for this guy! He’s tired from working so hard!
    ____
    Yeah. He’s been working almost as hard as Tim Smith!

  31. Barney in Tanjung Bunga says:
    Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 9:06 am
    But you keep telling us he’s not doing anything.
    _______
    It’s not so much that he’s not doing anything, rather he keeps making very big mistakes.

  32. nath @ #31 Saturday, August 1st, 2020 – 7:07 am

    Barney in Tanjung Bunga says:
    Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 9:06 am
    But you keep telling us he’s not doing anything.
    _______
    It’s not so much that he’s not doing anything, rather he keeps making very big mistakes.

    Really?

    You seem to think that controlling the virus is an absolute science.

    Big hint: It isn’t.

  33. That photo of Dan was posted by his wife as a contrast to the dilettante Morrison. I suspect she was angry at any inference that her husband wasn’t working long hours.

  34. I just watched the Lincoln Project ad linked below.
    To me, not a good one. Almost too clever to sink in to the bulk of Americans

  37. Nath must be one of those Dictator Dan folks but…

    Uniballer
    @AKatsonis
    ·
    36m
    Replying to
    @CultofJack
    The hilarious thing is #dimtim is deleting his dictaor Dan tweets. Doesn’t he know that if it’s on the internet it’s there forever and people screenshot them?

    @TimSmithMP
    is a joke. #springst

  38. I see there are yet more invaluable contributions from nath this morning.

    Makes no arguments. Reveals no insights. No attempt made to connect or persuade. Just heckles, smears shit on walls, sneers, then runs away.

    What a child.

  39. The only thing Dan stays up late for is his rendezvous with the hotel quarantine guests …oh and his moonlighting as an abattoir worker.

    RESIGN !!!

  40. lizzie @ #13 Saturday, August 1st, 2020 – 8:18 am

    If the virus is suddenly popping up in Aged Care homes across Melbourne, doesn’t that indicate that a person is responsible for carrying it around? Health Dept representatives? Registered Nurses? Food delivery service?

    It’s the casual workers that are working in multiple sites. Some have worked when infected, there has been a lack of management oversight and the training of workers about proper prodeures have been largely absent.

    It’s an indictment of Privatised Aged Care and a lot of people are going to die because this sector has been ignored by the Federal government for years.

  41. Secession? That’s one way to make AFL international.

    And International cricket gets another minnow.

    On the plus side it will improve the Australian team.

  42. Is Tim Smith deleting tweets in preparation for a tilt at the Lib leadership …?

    Great news if true. Taylormade and I welcome his intervention.

  43. ———
    Makes no arguments. Reveals no insights. No attempt made to connect or persuade. Just heckles, smears shit on walls, sneers, then runs away.
    ———
    Eats, roots and leaves?

  44. It’s clear Newscorp will continue to impose itself on Govts around the world, but it will be fascinating to see the movements of young James now that the shackles have been released.

  46. https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/queensland/lnp-president-resigns-as-palmer-confirms-his-party-will-run-in-state-election-20200801-p55hiu.html

    LNP president David Hutchinson has quit his job just hours after former boss Clive Palmer announced he was running candidates in the October state election.

    In June, Mr Hutchinson came under fire for holding the position of party president while working as a property adviser at Mr Palmer’s Coolum resort.

    The only ones who are corrupt as always – the liberal-national-Palmer party.

  47. GG

    I thought that working on several sites was now restricted? OTOH, because of the lag between infection and discovery, it may still have time to play out.

    On which subject I wish that those commentators who don’t understand the virus would stop pretending they are epidemiologists.

  49. Thanks to BK…

    Australia’s trilemma of providing good, fast and cheap energy finally has a clear solution, says Simon Holmes à Court. Worth reading.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/31/australias-trilemma-of-providing-good-fast-and-cheap-energy-finally-has-a-clear-solution

    Sadly though we have the parliamentary fossil fuel cartel led by Morrison and Albanese who have been bought by the industry.

    Our parliamentary swamp of corrupt servants must be drained.

  50. Goll says:
    Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 9:33 am

    By George you do it well Nath!
    _______
    All I am doing is expressing my opinion. PB is the only place I have seeing that in my house, Saint Dan cannot be spoken against. And if I do, I suffer in various ways. So, thankyou WB for the chance to speak my mind.

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