As reported by The Guardian, Essential Research has unusually conducted a new poll just a week after the last. This effectively replicates last week’s suite of questions on coronavirus to tie in with an online forum later today involving The Guardian’s Katharine Murphy and Essential Research’s Peter Lewis.
The results show a sharp rise in concern since last week, with 53% now saying they are very concerned, after the three previous fortnightly polls had it progressing from 25% to 27% to 39%. Only 18% now say they consider there has been an overreaction to the thread, down from 33% last week, while 43% now think the threat has been underestimated, up from 28%. These results imply little change to last week’s finding that 39% thought the response about right, though we will presumably have to await publication of the full report later today for a complete set of numbers. The poll also finds overwhelming support for the restrictive measures that have been taken. The rise in concern appears to have been matched by a decline in skepticism about media reportage, which 42% now say they trust, up from 35% last week.
Also out today is a Roy Morgan SMS poll on coronavirus, showing 43% support for the view that the federal government is handling the crisis well with 49% disagreeing — a rather weak result by international standards (it is noted that a similar poll in the United Kingdom a bit under a fortnight ago had it at 49% and 37%). This poll finds an even higher pitch of public concern than Essential, in that only 15% believed the threat to be exaggerated, with fully 81% disagreeing. Relatedly, 80% said they were willing to sacrifice some of their “human rights” to help prevent the spread of the virus (evidently having a somewhat different conception of that term from my own), with only 14% disagreeing. The poll was conducted on Saturday and Sunday from a sample of 988.
UPDATE: Full report from Essential Research here. The recorded increase in concern about the virus is not matched by a change in perceptions of the government’s handling of it, which 45% rate as good, unchanged on last week, and 31% rate as poor, up two. There is also a question on concern about climate change, which refutes the hopes of some conservative commentators in suggesting it has not been affected by the coronavirus crisis: 31% say they are more concerned than they were a year ago, 53% no more or less so, and 16% less concerned. However, the number of respondents saying Australia is not doing enough to address climate change is down from 60% in November to 55%, with doing enough up one to 23% and doing too much up one to 9%. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1086.
I would be interested in seeing the national statistics calibrated to the average age of each nation.
If Pell’s convictions are quashed on Tuesday next, he’s not out of the woods:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/new-allegations-of-child-sexual-abuse-by-pell-emerge-20200402-p54gbs.html
I do hope all the parents without higher degrees and whose first language isn’t English are managing to follow these explanations.
Yeah, but we can’t go back to the Stone Age, either. There has to be a balance.
What if no vaccine works? Like with HIV? What if one does work, but the virus mutates and renders the vaccine ineffective? what if treatments are only partially effective?
We don’t know any of this yet, but we should be conducting the thought experiment.
Bottom line: we cannot shut our economies down permanently.
No matter how much like “greed” and “callous disregard for human life” that may look like, doing it is something we may have to consider, or civilisation may go under.
Rex
Universal. Not means tested.
Why should front line health care doctors be denied child care?
We all pay through taxes. Just like the wealthy have to pay taxes for roads.
Means testing is the right creating division to run the argument I don’t need to pay taxes for that poor person to have services.
That’s the core of their argument. It makes it sound reasonable but it’s really not.
The argument should be. The rich pay taxes so they deserve the same access to services as the poor.
Just like we don’t deny them travel on roads.
Shellbell @ #1750 Thursday, April 2nd, 2020 – 1:47 pm
Unless the appeal is considered frivolous.
Uh-oh. After the crisis is over Morrison wants to get back to what we had before. I do hope not.
DisplayName @ #1684 Thursday, April 2nd, 2020 – 11:50 am
True. It is a trend analysis. What we’re interested in is whether the fitted curve is changing, presumably in response to our actions. Relatively speaking, the exponential curve fit has been changing but the S curve fits haven’t been. There’s hope in that but it is still getting worse.
FWIW yesterday’s projection using the “best” of the three curves that I’ve been calculating was for 5,103 cases by 5pm (Qld time). Coincidentally https://www.covid19data.com.au/ reports 5,103 at the moment. If today’s reporting follows the usual pattern I expect more to be added before 5pm. Possibly yesterday’s mood was too optimistic. We’ll see.
“Boerwarsays:
Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 1:47 pm
Aha! How are you going to pay for that?
Pay cut for politicians?”
Borrow the money. Borrow it from Mars if needed. Repayment terms of 100 years.
Morrison has just flagged that normal operations (situation ante quo the Virus) would be put straight back into place on the ‘Other Side’. Is that Scotty’s Heaven’?
Boerwar
I had hoped our society might have a few changes. Scotty will fight them.
Tehan just flat out stated that it is a ‘Six Month Virus’. But when does the six months start. We have already had three months of the Six Month Virus in Australia.
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Yep. They intend to revert to the IPA mean – austerity for the plebs.
An important difference between ‘our’ Moses and the original is that one floated on bullrushes the other floats on bullshit.
Lizzie
SBS has a website set up for NESB people to access for information.
They will get their language version on news reports.
I’ve heard that Herr Professor Doctor of Medicine and Pharmaceuticals Emperor Donald thinks anecdotes might also be a miracle, wonder and beautiful cure for Covid-19 because it sounds sciency and medically and druggily.
He doesn’t want them messing around with his domination of the facts.
I am confused by Scomo. Which biblical figure is he? One minute Newscorp describe his afflictions as if he is Job. The next minute he is Moses. When he won the election he was the Messiah. If he loses the next election he will be Judas.
Speaking of boats, in these confusing times not everyone who helps create a situation gets all the attention they deserve. Worth remembering where the push for cruise ships came from.
“Two years ago, then-federal minister for tourism Steve Ciobo described Sydney as “Australia’s cruise gateway”.
“More ships means more tourists which will help drive economic growth and create new jobs,” Ciobo said.
(from Crikey)
Really Steve? Jobs for the Philippines for crew paid $2 an hour.
Guytaur, that was one of them. In isolation it didn’t mean anything to me.
I’ve re-read your response to Assantdj above, and now realise it was a punctuation issue that threw me into confusion.
A comma after the word they and after the word workers in the penultimate paragraph make it perfectly understandable.
I consider Maths to be an invention rather than a discovery. The underlying premise described by a mathematical formula using calculus is a discovery (so Newton’s law of gravity or Maxwell’s equations) but Mathematics is an abstract way to represent the physical world.
Newton didn’t “discover” calculus, he developed it as a way to represent what he was discovering. He “discovered” that there is a predictability to gravity which can be represented using calculus.
“Really Steve? Jobs for the Philippines for crew paid $2 an hour.”
And the restaurants and cafes. And the clothes shops. And the local tour operators. And the companies that supply anything that goes onto the ships to restock them. And the people who work on the wharves.
Morrison has just flagged that normal operations (situation ante quo the Virus) would be put straight back into place on the ‘Other Side’. Is that Scotty’s Heaven’?
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Boerwar
The (economic) Rapture no less!
Obviously Scomo is Noah, not Moses or Job. I can see no evidence of him parting the red sea but I see lots of evidence of a large boat landing in Circular quay.
poroti @ #1743 Thursday, April 2nd, 2020 – 1:45 pm
Odd. I thought I read this morning of at least three school closures just today due to Coronavirus cases being detected.
They apparently did not get the memo 🙁
Maths is where discovery and invention become the same thing :-P.
Our Moses is in denial.
The Greater Recession is here. Europe US India and China hit.
We won’t escape it.
It’s the first time concerted action has been taken by multiple countries to shut down national economies. A timeline defined by a virus on a worldwide basis.
Going back to how it was before is fantasy denialism.
Back in high school we had a teacher we nicknamed Moses. Every time he talks the bullrushes forth.
School report from my kids – who have been home a week.
Year 6 – 0 kids in their class, 2 & 3 in the other two classes.
Basically all being done remotely. WA government school
Poroti,
“An important difference between ‘our’ Moses and the original is that one floated on bullrushes the other floats on bullshit.” 🙂
Good one…I’ll pay that!!
Mr Morrison isn’t really a very likeable person, is he… He gets snappy and doesn’t exude confidence or compassion. And Dan Tehan speaks like a child who has just learnt to read.
Blobbit @ #1771 Thursday, April 2nd, 2020 – 1:57 pm
On our ship while many of the crew were from Philippines or similar, even amongst the wait staff there were some locals (being Aust or NZ). The officers sounded to be mostly British or northern European.
Lizzie
You forget. Compassion and empathy is for the latte sippers in trendy inner city suburbs especially those that work at the ABC.
Comrade Morrison seems to be really enjoying his political conversion.
Rex,
Given that the dissenting opinion in the Appeal was by one the preeminent criminal jurists in the country I doubt that the HCoA would declare it frivolous.
I am expecting an acquittal.
Moses telling commercial tenants and landlords to sit down and talk it out.
What a leader
Worth a moment’s thought.
Shellbell says:
Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 1:47 pm
A very quick decision for Pell augurs well for him.
First it means their is likely unanimity or near unanimity and the feeling from the hearing was not one of much support for the DPP.
Second, a point Mavis has made. The court would not linger over an acquittal case.
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Shellbell, if the court was going to set aside the conviction why wouldn’t they announce it as soon as a decision is reached, with the judgement to follow. Would it be fair to leave Pell in prison while they proofread the judgement.
Is that normal practice to your knowledge?
lizzie @ #1786 Thursday, April 2nd, 2020 – 1:08 pm
Yeah, but the prayer group dousn’t matter.
It’s Time
Took me a moment to realise what you meant. Scomo’s priorities aren’t ours.
TPOF says: Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 2:08 pm
Shellbell, if the court was going to set aside the conviction why wouldn’t they announce it as soon as a decision is reached, with the judgement to follow. Would it be fair to leave Pell in prison while they proofread the judgement.
Is that normal practice to your knowledge?
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What happens in light of new accusers coming forward ?
Two new accusers say George Pell abused them when they were boys in the 1970s
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-02/george-pell-ballarat-allegations-revelation/12109952
More accusers come forward against Pell
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/thebriefing/max-opray/2020/04/02/more-accusers-come-forward-against-pell
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2020/apr/02/coronavirus-update-live-news-australia-nsw-victoria-queensland-qld-tas-act-sa-wa-nt-covid19-latest-updates
It is kinda funny
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Free child care? Monthly checks from the government? Subsidized jobs for the marginally employed? Who would have thought it would be Scomo who finally turned Australia into a socialist utopia! #auspol
From the Grauniad blog:
The operative phrase in the above passage is “At least half a year”.
I reckon you can easily tack another year on to that. At least.
“Danama Paperssays:
Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 2:15 pm
I reckon you can easily tack another year on to that. At least.”
Which isn’t really going to be sustainable. If we’re going to do that, then there’s going to be changes needed.
Take an example. One of my kids had to get glasses. He was tested early last week. Glasses arrived yesterday. The shop was closed for all but emergencies and giving out orders.
That’s simply not going to work for 18 months.
TPOF
The two courses normally are:
(a) announce decision at end of hearing with reasons to follow;
(b) deliver judgment
The option of reaching a decision some time after the case ends, announcing the decision and giving reasons later is pretty rare. This is an example where the Respondent, Mr Zabic, was suffering from mesothelioma.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/HCATrans/2015/187.html
Victoria @ #1791 Thursday, April 2nd, 2020 – 2:15 pm
I would hope that the tax cuts for the top end income earners be repealed.
Hunt should have done this with Zoom.
We could still see him and his experts. We could see the press ask their questions.
Just do it all virtually.
Yeah I told you so tweet
Stephen Schwartz
@AtomicAnalyst
· May 11, 2018
When the next pandemic occurs (and make no mistake, it will) and the federal government is unable to respond in a coordinated and effective fashion to protect the lives of US citizens and others, this decision by John Bolton and Donald Trump will be why. https://washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/05/10/top-white-house-official-in-charge-of-pandemic-response-exits-abruptly/?utm_term=.0e0cc7d46ea1
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I would expect Albanese to announce that if Labor is elected they will maintain the newly announced childcare funding arrangement but will not go ahead with the high end income tax cuts.