The Guardian reports on yet another fortnightly Essential Research poll with no voting intention numbers, but we does at least get the monthly leadership ratings. These show Scott Morrison down a point on approval to 39% and steady on disapproval at 52%, after the previous poll respectively had him down five and up nine. Anthony Albanese is respectively down two to 41% and up one to 31%, and he has lost his 39-36 lead as preferred prime minister, with the two now tied on 36%. The BludgerTrack trends on the sidebar have now been updated with these results.
Further questions on bushfire recovery, sports rorts and coronavirus don’t seem to have turned up anything too mindblowing, but the publication of the full report may turn up something hopefully later today.
UPDATE: Full report here. The most interesting of the supplementary findings for mine relate to the budget surplus, the consistent theme of which is that respondents aren’t that fussed about it: 79% agree spending on bushfire recovery is more important than maintaining it, with 11% disagreeing; 65% say it would be understandable if the coronavirus impact meant it wasn’t achieved, with 18% disagreeing; and 57% agree it was wrong for the government to discuss the surplus in the present tense before the election, with 24% disagreeing.
zoomster @ #495 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 8:08 pm
I’ll be pleased to see the philosphies of Anarchism laid out before us and how they apply to the reality of modern day Australia.
At this stage, about the same impact of the lumberjack party imho.
But, I’m open to persuasion.
It’ll be a pleasant change from the middle class wankerism of the Greens and their fellow travellers.
BK the chart may indeed show America as being extreme right wing. Or it may not. It might also be showing the drift of the Democrats to the right, leaving a gap between it and where average Americans actually stand on various issues.
Murdoch arseholes not satisfied with one suicide last week, are promoting another. How can this lowlife be allowed to exist?
“A Herald Sun journalist has been suspended by Sky News after joking on air that Bridget McKenzie should take a bottle of whisky and a revolver and shoot herself amid the sports grants controversy.
James Campbell, a senior journalist and regular Sky commentator, made the remarks on Sky’s AM Agenda two days before the former Nationals deputy leader resigned.
“I suspect that this has got a long way to run even if Bridget McKenzie eventually does the right thing and takes the bottle of whisky and the revolver into the room and practices her shooting on herself,” Campbell said on Friday 31 January. McKenzie resigned two days later over a conflict of interest related to the government’s sports grants program.
Sky News host Tom Connell sounded taken aback at the comment and said: “Uh, all right that’s pretty colourful, James.”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/feb/11/sky-news-commentator-suspended-over-bridget-mckenzie-shooting-remarks
Cud Chewer
Yes, but I think they have ALL shifted to the right.
here’s a good Labor ALP Member putting forward positive ideas.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1227058761526730752
alfred venison:
[‘…i signed the petition, along with 20,000 others concerned citizens who signed it…’]
While wishing you well with the petition, I’m not sure that there’s much evidence that they have the desired effect, you’d certainly need more than 20,000 to get anywhere:
Some statistics:
[‘From 2008, an average 161 petitions have been presented each year. Following the introduction of e‑petitioning in the 45th Parliament, there has been renewed interest in petitioning the House. In 2017, 329 petitions were presented (both paper and e‑petitions). In 2018, 317 petitions were presented. Since recording of signatures began in 1988, the petition with the greatest number of signatures was presented on 26 February 2014 concerning funding support for community pharmacies, with 1,210,471 signatures. The second largest was presented on 4 December 2000 concerning taxation and beer prices, with 792,985 signatures.’]
[‘…but do any of them ever cut through and lead to real change? The short answer — probably not.’]
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-15/are-online-petitions-ever-effective/8124388
No harm trying though.
“Sigh, what is new with the crooks and scumbags in the LNP –” can now become, “Sigh, what else is new with the crooks and scumbags in ALL the different political parties.” Happy now? It’s more to do with the absolute blatant disregard for any rules and regulations, except if you aren’t part of the born-to-rule party then it’s look out, that the federal LNP now don’t feel like they have to follow.
Rex apart from this being appalling spin – almost to the level of party political attack ad, you know what the spin PVO is actually putting on this? That Labor should move to the right. Is that what you intended?
BK America has always been a bit to the right. But not that far.
Time and again, when people are surveyed they overwhelmingly support “left” issues – such as universal health care, raising the minimum wage, etc.
What we really have is the Democrats getting too frightened of the Republicans (esp post Regan) and a certain amount of being too cosy with business interests.
What America really has a problem with is the complacency of its left-leaning would-be voters. (plus voter suppression, gerrymandering and other forms of cheating). I think I saw one estimate that were it not for the most egregious cheats, the Democrats would have won handsomely in 2016.
And yeah, Hilary bored a lot of people who should have voted.
I think that in the USA, 99% of the money votes Republican. It’s able to bring along enough human voters to get over the line.
Basically we have the same situation here.
Racism flourishes where leaders impliedly condone it, the dog-whistling of Howard and some of his underlings knew exactly what they were doing. Labor front-bencher Andrew Giles is taking an admirable stand to denounce racism, all the more important with the fear of the Coronavirus:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/creeping-normalisation-of-hate-labor-calls-for-national-anti-racism-campaign-20200211-p53zmm.html
In my post further up this thread, I detected a hint of racism in what a check-out person told me.
Boerwar says:
Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 1:05 pm
…”Rex and Albo are both right!
It takes a majority to pass a Bill.
If you want real action on climate change, vote Labor.
If you want obstruction and destruction on climate change, vote Liberals and Nationals.
If you want grandstanding, stunting, protests, demands, urgings, etc, etc, etc, but no action on climate change, vote for the Greens”…
………………………
It is entirely possible that the residents of this place, dissatisfied with their own allotment, have stolen several other villages’ idiots.
Mavis
Exactly so.
For many, many decades immigration policy was bipartisan.
It wasn’t because there weren’t votes up for grabs – there always has been – but because ‘the greater good’ of the nation meant giving those voters nowhere to go.
its sometimes hard to tell on this site if people are simply stupid or willfully obtuse. my questions are clear :- what are you, any of you, doing to put pressure on “modern” liberals ? -a.v.
the petition is 2 days old, the campaign is just beginning. its not too late for you too to do something to put pressure on “modern” liberals. just sayin’. -a.v.
alfred venison @ #514 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 7:44 pm
1. Not voting for them.
2. Encouraging everyone else to not vote for them.
3. Advocating that the various parties to the left of them to stop fighting with each other.
alfred venison @ #515 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 8:49 pm
What does pressure on modern Liberals actually mean?
Mavis,
Yes, good on Andrew Giles who is a member of Albanese’s outer shadow ministry.
According to wikipedia
“He acted as a solicitor for refugees stranded aboard the Tampa.[5] Giles also worked as a senior advisor for the Bracks and Brumby Governments in Victoria.[6] He was secretary of the Socialist Left in Victoria.[7]”
and
“He is co-chair of Parliamentary friends of Amnesty International”
Also according to Wikipedia, Andrew Giles
“Giles joined the ALP when he was eighteen, and – prior to his election to Parliament – worked as a principal lawyer at Slater and Gordon in Melbourne, practicing in employment law.[1] Giles serves as one of the two federal parliamentary convenors of the Labor Left faction, along with Pat Conroy.[2]”
Are we there yet?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1226837337923104768
zoomster:
[‘It wasn’t because there weren’t votes up for grabs – there always has been – but because ‘the greater good’ of the nation meant giving those voters nowhere to go.’]
Yep. Even the patrician Fraser wouldn’t entertain it, a champion of the dismantling of apartheid, as were Hawke & Keating. Then Howard arrived, and although Hanson was disendorsed, it was by then too late.
I thought Giles had been involved in a fairly recent Labor factional ruckus.
Bill Shorten steps in as Labor factional brawl goes public in wake of Conroy’s departure
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-19/labor-internal-brawling-bill-shorten-gavin-marshall/7946334
“Senator Marshall hit out at ALP MP Andrew Giles and other Labor parliamentarians who were part of an internal push to oust veteran Labor senator Kim Carr from the frontbench.
Senator Carr saved his position by splitting from the Left and establishing a new faction — termed the “Industrial Left” — with Senator Marshall and a handful of Victorian MPs.
:::
Labor’s Left caucus held a meeting on Monday night in an effort to contain the fallout from Senator Marshall’s comments, and manage tensions surrounding Mr Shorten’s decision to back lawyer Kimberley Kitching for the Senate seat vacated by Stephen Conroy.
:::
There is also persistent and widespread unhappiness in Labor about Ms Kitching’s imminent arrival in Canberra.
Several MPs are privately scathing about Ms Kitching because of her time working with the troubled Health Services Union, and mystified about Mr Shorten’s decision to support her.”
Pegasus:
Yes, he a good record in the area of human rights.
how to put pressure on politicians. honest to god, this one i’d classify as willfully obtuse. do you want me to tie your shoelaces, too ? why don’t you read up about it ? start here :-
https://www.zalisteggall.com.au/climate_change_national_framework_for_adaptation_and_mitigation_bill_2020
-a.v.
alfred venison:
It would help if you were to reference the post to which you’re referring to, even the curtesy of identifying the poster.
Greensborough Growler @ #517 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 8:52 pm
Politics as Performance Art from an Indie who has a strategy to try and retain their seat.
Oh, and by Zali Steggall getting lots of people to sign her petition provides a justification for her to say to her constituents that her high profile on the issue she campaigned on for election means she deserves re-election. 🙂
[‘An Aboriginal man who spent 500 days in immigration detention was released today after the High Court ruled that Indigenous Australians cannot be deported.’]
I wonder what 500 days in detention is worth?:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-people-cant-be-deported/11953012
those are 3 good action points. why don’t you add a 4th, for this year : (4) sign steggall’s petition. -a.v.
Of course, all those HoR parliamentarians from both major parties who are fortunate enough to be preselected in safe seats are spared the need to engage in “performance art”. All they really need to do is sit back and hoover up all the perks of office.
In contrast, those such as Joel Fitzgibbon, who had a scare at the last election, is currently doing quite a good attempt at “performance art”.
C@tmomma @ #527 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 9:26 pm
I’m more appreciative of Zalli. She’s the Member in a seat Labor will never win and is trying to steer the Libs to a reasonable position on CC. So, more power to her arm.
The key is the pressure she will put on Lib Members in Blue Ribbon seats in Sydney to actually live the values they espouse. Blue ribbon seats are the ones in most danger if the Libs don’t move.
Thom’s detention may not be compensable.
Kable won his case in the High Court on the constitutionality of the detention law which kept him in gaol after the service of his sentence but lost in the High Court on compensation for the period detained.
Canavan caught out:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/feb/11/matt-canavan-leaves-two-properties-worth-more-than-1m-off-2019-declaration-of-interests
I wonder how he’ll service his mortgage(s) now he’s backbencher? Joyce appears to be having problems, thus his challenge. The Country Party’s in a mess, in essence, a brawl between Queensland senators and members and the southern rump.
Shellbell @ #532 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 8:42 pm
Ah, so the government can lock you up with no basis and doesn’t even need to compensate you for it? Now that’s a lovely message to be sending to someone like Dutton. Music to his ears. 🙁
Twitter reporting Prince Andrew has comitted suicide.
You gotta laugh. trump sees this obvious set up as and endorsement.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1227040292060180481
Gg what twitter are you reading – my feed has nothing on prince
Nothing on the BBC feed
Not trying to be mischievous. But, as I said, it was defintely out there.
Independent UK reported that Prince Andrew had met with Chinese officials earlier today.
Maybe Prince Andrew has got coronavirus.
Confessions @ #541 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 10:08 pm
Maybe the reports were wrong!
Greensborough Growler @ #539 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 9:03 pm
On Twitter. Where everything you see is definitely true. 🙂
Bellwhether:
Don’t you know that Buttigieg is currently The One, according to c@tmomma, as even she could see – eventually, and through gritted teeth – that Biden’s a dud. We have to give her *some* credit for coming to that realisation.
GG:
Something wrong on social media? Nah, couldn’t possibly be.
a r @ #543 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 10:09 pm
Abraham Lincoln posted that.
How to lose $291 million without thinking about it
https://inqld.com.au/opinion/2020/02/11/how-to-lose-291-million-without-thinking-about-it/
“Treasurer Jackie Trad announced a new property tax in her latest Budget. But six months later she changed her mind. How did that happen? Robert MacDonald explains
It must have seemed like a brilliant idea and a great little earner when the Queensland Treasury boffins floated it – a few tweaks to property taxes that would raise more than half a billion dollars over four years.
The beauty of it? Only foreigners would pay. Voters wouldn’t feel a thing.”
Maybe Mike Bloomberg would be a good choice as nominee after all.
https://youtu.be/xpMycNIEjmM
Greensborough Growler @ #531 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 9:39 pm
And the maps I saw showed that those were the seats that had the greatest movement to Labor in NSW, at least. However, I’m not so confident that those seats will ever fall to Labor, the Coalition has got a big enough buffer in a lot of the Queensland seats that I believe they could give a little ground on Climate Change action to the seats you are talking about, enough to retain them and stave off Labor, as the electors in those seats value the economic benefits voting Liberal affords them.
Mr Newbie @ #544 Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 – 10:12 pm
How very droll, Mr Newbie. Meh. Whatever.