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1. Good morning Dawn Patrollers. A rather small and patchy collection today I’m afraid.

   Jacqui Maley writes that week Matt Wade was the closest thing we could claim to an environmental hero.
   https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/better-make-sure-that-canberra-bubble-is-fire-and-smoke-proof-20191213-p53jso.html
   Ebony Bennett declares that Australia is a bludger on carbon emissions, not an overachiever.
   https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6542354/australia-is-a-bludger-on-carbon-emissions-not-an-overachiever/?cs=14258
   Matt Wade explains the two demographic tipping points that the world reached this year.
   https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/two-big-tipping-points-in-2019-went-largely-unnoticed-20191213-p53jue.html
   A thick blanket of smoke from the bushfires has covered Sydney while the leader of our nation seems to have no idea how to deal with the situation, writes John Wren in his weekly political roundup.
   https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/wrens-week-scott-morrison-seeks-distractions-from-bushfire-aftermath,13410
   Meanwhile Ffrefighters battling more than 100 blazes across NSW have seen their chances of respite vanish, with the latest weather forecasts predicting conditions will worsen again early next week as temperatures rise.
   https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/nsw/2019/12/14/nsw-bushfire-conditions-to-worsen/
   Promoters of illegal schemes for the early release of super can leave their clients with big tax-bills and possible financial penalties writes John Collett.
   https://www.smh.com.au/money/super-and-retirement/warning-on-schemes-facilitating-illegal-early-release-of-super-20191212-p53jcp.html
   The US and China may have settled their trade differences for now and the UK appears on course to leave the European Union early next year, but federal Labor insists the Australian government still needs to stimulate the economy.
   https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6543394/labor-wants-stimulus-in-budget-update/?cs=14231
   The Auditor-General has found that Australia’s refugee settlement program has not been properly managed.
   https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6541002/refugee-settlement-program-not-properly-managed-audit/?cs=14350
   Bevan Shields looks at who and what Boris Johnson is.
   https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/cunning-skill-karma-boris-johnson-s-rise-proves-he-s-no-dunderhead-20191211-p53iru.html
   While George Brandis said it was not “a race”, he believes Australia was well placed to be the first to strike a deal with Westminster.
   https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/australian-trade-to-be-a-winner-in-post-brexit-world-brandis-says-20191213-p53jxb.html
   Peter FitzSimons asks the question, “Aside from Tony Abbott, who will want to cling to ‘Little Britain’?” The other bits of his column are good too.
   https://www.smh.com.au/national/aside-from-tony-abbott-who-will-want-to-cling-to-little-britain-20191213-p53jqp.html
   Matthew Knott says that the Republicans are not napping but they are comatose on the Trump impeachment case.
   https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/republicans-not-napping-but-comatose-on-trump-impeachment-case-20191214-p53jza.html
   Why is the president of the United States cyberbullying a 16-year-old girl?
   https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/14/trump-president-greta-thunberg-bullying

   Cartoon Corner

   In the UK with Peter Broelman.
   
   I can’t work out whether Zanetti is pleased or not here.
   
   Glen Le Lievre.
   
   From Matt Golding.
   
   
   
   

   From the US

   
   
   
   
   
   

2. Just like in Australia. And some people insist that Rupert has no influence on elections.

   “We’ve taken on the Mail on Sunday and won. But the newspaper regulator won’t correct the story till after the election” Monbiot.

   Last summer, I co-published a report to the Labour party titled Land for the Many. It took many months of work, drawing on a vast range of sources and expertise, to produce radical but realistic ideas for changing the way we use our most important resource. We worked hard to make our arguments as watertight as possible. We needn’t have bothered, because our opponents scarcely addressed them.

   The storm of lies about our report in the billionaire press gave me an idea of what it must be like to be a Labour politician. Pushing back against them all would be a fulltime job for several people. But we decided to confront one of them in the hope that it might illuminate the others. The Mail on Sunday turned our independent report for the Labour party into “bombshell plans being drawn up by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn”, then told an outright lie about what it contained.

   We proposed, it said, “to scrap the capital gains tax exemption on main homes”. At the moment, if you sell the house or flat in which you live, you don’t pay capital gains tax on the profit you might make. We examined the case for changing this, explained the arguments for and against, then clearly and specifically rejected the idea. But who cares, if you can terrify the living daylights out of your readership, convincing them that Corbyn is the spawn of Satan?

   …The false claim has now been deeply implanted in people’s minds: Labour is coming for your home.

   …If elections are won by lies, we find ourselves governed by liars. They won’t hesitate to ramp up their deceptions when in office.

   https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/break-embargo-expose-press-lies-labour?CMP=share_btn_tw

3. Sounds familiar to the ‘Death Tax’ campaign by Morrison here. Same people ran Johnson’s campaign, so it figures.

4. C@t

   Exactly so. The deception was not only to make up a lie, but to fight the author who tried to get a retraction until almost too late, and then the newspaper regulator wouldn’t correct it before the election. Is this corruption or not? I suppose not, because the newspaper would say they gained no monetary benefit from the lies.

5. Okay, so I’m going to be accused by the usual suspects of flaunting my Labor Party connections, but like I care what a Big Bully thinks or says about me…..

   So, I can resolve this issue:

   • In other by-election news, there isn’t any. Confident speculation a month or so ago that Eden-Monaro MP Mike Kelly would be gone by Christmas has less than a fortnight to bear fruit.

   Mike Kelly won’t be going anywhere. So John Barilaro can put away the Nationals’ federal leader’s baton back in his knapsack. As I was told last weekend what the medical problem was that Mike had, and while not betraying a confidence I can just say that it was temporary, he is now over it and feeling as fit as an Eden-Monaro Mallee Bull. 🙂

   I can’t speak for John Barilaro though I guess. He may still want to try his luck. 😉

6. lizzie,
   The payoff for the malevolent Murdochs may be the Sky TV acquisition finally.

7. I thank you BK for the Dawn Patrol. ✔

8. Joel’, father Michael played in the 1969 grand final for Richmond and at least two of his brothers (Sean and Pat) also played for Richmond.

   Michael Bowden has spent many years in the NT as a teacher.

   Michael is fighting MND (the same disease as another great legend Neale Daniher). But, the progress of the disease is apparently much more rapid for Bowden.

   As for Joel, his and his family’s good deeds over many years mean that he’ll be a pretty strong candidate for Labor.

   “Unions boss says future up in air
   Mr Bowden, a former AFL player for the Richmond Tigers and the current general secretary of Unions NT, hails from a deeply ingrained NT Labor family.

   His father Michael Bowden was today bestowed life membership at the conference.

   “Our family has been inspired by my father’s work, and my mother’s work — we’re a community-embedded Territory family,” Joel Bowden said today”.

   https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-19/construction-union-nt-labor-conference-gunner-government/11620002

9. For GG.

   Is the following statement another example of, as you say, ‘ a populist witch hunt’ ? :
   “I cannot comprehend how any person, much less one with qualifications in theology … could consider the rape of a child to be a moral failure but not a crime. This statement by leaders of the Catholic Church marks out the corruption within the Church both within Australia, and it seems from reports, in many other parts of the world.” – Justice Peter McClellan, who presided over the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Abuse, in a speech to the Australian Human Rights Commission.

   Or, perhaps, is the Roman Paedophile Protection Society just plain evil to the core?

10. Jeez the Coalition are the best economic managers (that the money of the wealthy can buy):

    Workers hoping for a big lift in their pay packets are set to be disappointed, with the Morrison government to downgrade expected wages growth in its looming mid-year budget update.

    In what would be another blow to cash-strapped households, Treasurer Josh Frydenberg will use Monday’s mid-year economic and fiscal outlook to again report lower-than-forecast wage increases.

    …When Treasury first forecast wages growth for 2019-20, in the 2016-17 budget, it was expecting a strong lift of 3.5 per cent.

    That has been gradually sliced to 2.75 per cent with that expected on Monday to be cut to at least 2.5 per cent. It’s little better for 2020-21, which was initially expected to see wages surging by 3.75 per cent.

    Instead, wages are tipped to lift by 2.75 per cent, a full half percentage point reduction on what Mr Frydenberg predicted in the April budget.

    Shadow treasurer Jim Chalmers said since the Coalition came to power it had missed its own budget forecasts for wages growth on 33 occasions.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/workers-set-for-more-disappointment-as-wage-forecasts-to-be-downgraded-20191213-p53jtt.html

11. @barriecassidy
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    19h
    The appalling things you can say to people as long as they’re said “in good faith.”

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    Jenny Frecklington-Jones; #HowDareYou @Triplejay58
    · 23h
    “A woman may be told by a manager that women should submit to their husbands or that women should not be employed outside the home.”

    This whole thing is too deplorable for words.
    #discrimination #bigotry #misogyny #homophobia #transphobia

    https://theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/14/religious-discrimination-bill-what-will-australians-be-allowed-to-say-and-do-if-it-passes?CMP=share_btn_tw
    ***

    Paul Bongiorno @PaulBongiorno
    2m
    This pathetic discussion should be shelved the Ruddock inquiry found there is no need for extra religious “protections” This is a sop to bigots masquerading as martyrs.

12. Ruddock’s a dry old conservative stick, but I think he’s right this time.

    

13. “…If elections are won by lies, we find ourselves governed by liars. They won’t hesitate to ramp up their deceptions when in office.”

    We, the British and the Americans live in mendocracies.

14. That last sentence sounds like ‘Mr Burns” was concerned about unintended consequences from the change. Finding out that what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander would be a terrible shock for all the ‘Lyle Sheldons’

15. steve777

    It’s even worse than that, they are all ‘murdochracies’ .

16. yabba @ #9 Sunday, December 15th, 2019 – 8:23 am

    For GG.

    Is the following statement another example of, as you say, ‘ a populist witch hunt’ ? :
    “I cannot comprehend how any person, much less one with qualifications in theology … could consider the rape of a child to be a moral failure but not a crime. This statement by leaders of the Catholic Church marks out the corruption within the Church both within Australia, and it seems from reports, in many other parts of the world.” – Justice Peter McClellan, who presided over the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Abuse, in a speech to the Australian Human Rights Commission.

    Or, perhaps, is the Roman Paedophile Protection Society just plain evil to the core?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8KL63r9Zcw

17. After weeks like the one we’ve just had, I sometimes wonder how long it will be before our major political parties shift from talking about reducing emissions and instead arguing over how to best deal with the impact of climate change.

    You know the sort of thing – “Should we means-test free access to P2 masks?” or “Should there be a mutual obligation regime for climate-change relief?” – and before you know it the Australian and the other climate change-denying News Corp media outlets will be running editorials about how “we need to get more people off climate change welfare”.
    …
    But then there’s not a lot of sense in any of these things. We live in a time where climate change denialism is a safer route for a conservative than is acknowledging reality.This is mostly because the main media company in this country, from its editors through to its leading columnists, has an approach to climate change denial that is impervious to logic, reason and basic maths.
    …
    A conservative stating reality on climate change is now considered a betrayal, and a progressive stating reality is portrayed as an extremist.

    And you can thus see why the Labor party has chosen to largely dissociate itself from the climate change movement, a movement which saw 20,000 people take to the streets this week in Sydney despite next to no notice.

    Labor has instead decided it is more sensible for Anthony Albanese to pick this week when his own electorate has been covered in smoke from bushfires and the UN is holding a climate conference at which Australia has been declared the pariah of the world, to tour rural Queensland to visit coalmines and aluminium smelters and talk up “practical” solutions.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2019/dec/15/we-need-politicians-to-have-the-guts-to-admit-its-going-to-hurt-to-fight-climate-change

18. Funny game AFL. You had Bowden kicking the pill to several generations of Tasmanian Liberal (Richo). At least north of the border they knew how to segregate the hoi polloi from the riff raff by playing different codes…

19. This is mostly because the main media company in this country, from its editors through to its leading columnists, has an approach to climate change denial that is impervious to logic, reason and basic maths.

    That is for consumption by us Australian yokels and simpletons. Rupert meanwhile has looked to what will become an increasingly important thing to global investors/finance/insurers etc etc
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    News Corp to be carbon neutral
    Rupert Murdoch says his company is committed to reducing its impact on the environment by cutting its global carbon footprint to zero.
    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/news-corp-to-be-carbon-neutral
    Australia’s biggest publisher News Ltd has announced that the company has become carbon neutral.
    https://mumbrella.com.au/news-ltd-goes-carbon-neutral-38613

20. Well, Lindsey Graham certainly was prophetic back in the 1990. A Republican president facing impeachment for corrupt conduct certainly is a good test for Republicans!

    https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1205860463373963265

    One day we might find out why he has done a complete 180 on Trump.

21. @barriecassidy

    The appalling things you can say to people as long as they’re said “in good Faith.”

    There. Fixed it.

    I mean, that’s what it’s all about, Theology Uber Alles.

22. No Insiders? I thought they hadn’t done the end of year wrap yet?

23. Jeezus I hate the way they refer to Morrison as ‘scomo’ on Radio Nationl.
    It
    Really
    Shits
    Me

24. Last week was Insiders final week for the year.

25. Thanks BK for the roundup. As you say there is not much substance to report. Despite a host of unresolved problems, and a major international conference where Australia is being blamed as a blocker of progress, policy development has shut down for the year. Everything is going so great.

26. “It’s even worse than that, they are all ‘murdochracies’ .”

    And the sitation won’t improve when Rupert finally rolls down the curtain and joins the Chior Invisible.

    At least the USA has a substantial ‘liberal media’. Here, 70% of the print media outlets are effectively ‘Fox News’.

27. I would have thought that Newscorp would want to be taking all measures to maximise their carbon footprint because its plant food and to stop the next ice age and to support the coal industry…

28. Thanks, ‘fess. That’s right, I wasn’t at home. I’ll catch up with it on iView.

29. Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said Saturday that he’s made up his mind that President Trump should be acquitted, dismissed the notion that he has to be a “fair juror” and said he doesn’t see the need for a formal trial in the Senate.

    Graham, a staunch defender of the president, made the comments overseas during an interview with CNN International at the Doha Forum in Qatar.

    “I think impeachment is going to end quickly in the Senate. I would prefer it to end as quickly as possible,” Graham said. “Use the record that was assembled in the House to pass impeachment articles as your trial record.”

    Asked whether it was appropriate for him to share those thoughts given his purported role as a juror in a Senate trial, Graham replied, “Well, I must think so because I’m doing it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lindsey-graham-not-trying-to-pretend-to-be-a-fair-juror-here/2019/12/14/dcaad02c-1ea8-11ea-b4c1-fd0d91b60d9e_story.html

30. The Democrats should keep the Trump impeachment alive in the House for as long as possible because no matter what the charges or how damning the evidence, the Senate will quickly dispense with it on party lines.

31. One of our local (though syndicated) radio stations plays an endless grab of Morrison ringing up the radio station and making a few jokes. It’s obviously meant to be a station promo, not a government ad, so I doubt it would be classed as even a ‘donation in kind’.

    Imagine the screams if a media outlet did that for a Labor PM.

32. An Uncomfortable Time To Be In Politics (Or Anywhere With A ‘Climate’)

    https://newmatilda.com/2019/12/12/an-uncomfortable-time-to-be-in-politics-or-anywhere-with-a-climate/

    As awareness increases of this tension between economic growth and global ecosystem sustainability, so those wealthy businesses and their political supporters who have most benefitted from unchecked capitalism start to feel threatened.

    So how are governments responding? Typically, when their legitimacy comes into question, by increasing repression – witness the responses of the Queensland and Federal Governments to the Extinction Rebellion and Blockade IMARC protests. Indeed, the fact that repression increases in proportion to the loss of political legitimacy demonstrates how the climate emergency is so threatening for the status quo.

    Because what that says is if the system itself has lost legitimacy, no government constituted under that system can be legitimate.

    No wonder politicians are feeling uncomfortable.

33. As usual, the Betoota Advocate says it best.
    https://www.betootaadvocate.com/world-news/young-girl-having-opportunity-to-voice-concerns-is-child-abuse-says-pell-supporter/

34. Insiders, Outsiders: Media And Climate Change And Repeating, Without Question

    https://newmatilda.com/2019/12/13/insiders-outsiders-media-and-climate-change-and-repeating-without-question/

    The impotence of the media is never more apparent than when it lets governments make outrageous claims on climate, unchallenged, writes Nick Pendergrast.

35. National park eco-tourism developments taken to court, with states watching closely

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-15/private-development-in-national-parks-opposed/11800134

    A desire to cash in on the popularity of eco-tourism has resulted in some state governments seeking and approving private tourism developments in national parks.

    It’s forced those fighting against such ventures to take their cases to the courts and the protesters are having some success.

36. ScoMo has now been redubbed SmoCo.

    It’s perfect.

37. Hi Cud,

    D&M I don’t find myself in the Waterloo area on a regular basis although I do have colleagues that work near Green Square. As someone who is a compulsory public transport user (I don’t have the eyesight to drive) the first thing I pick up on when walking around the area (I have been to Coles Waterloo a couple of times) is how much nicer the area would be with high quality direct pedestrian links to the stations. As you can tell, I’m not a fan of buses. They are a necessary evil but I would say that the mark of a good bus network design is short routes.

    Your summary of the transport situation is pretty good. Aqualung’s big concern is the fact that the busses are full for specific segments. You are correct about the high-rise housing being the complex in Waterloo near Danks St Coles, but also the infill between Lachlan and O’Dea, and Victoria Park in Zetland. The busses are heading out of the city towards UNSW, and they fill up at the first few stops near Bourke St, so that by the time they are near the Zetland high-rise they are full. They also go only every half hour, and so if they “bunch” you can wait close to an hour for a bus. It is just really poor planning.

    Likewise, where I am, a few blocks west of Coles Waterloo, the busses heading towards the CBD are full by the time they get here of a morning. It is OK if you are fit and like walking, like I am – I often just walk into the CBD, but not everyone can do that, or has the time to do that between school drop-offs and start time at work.

    We just need better planned timetables, but also more busses where they are needed – and light. rail would be even better, but it will still be as slow as the busses unless the frequency increases, or there are transponders on the trams to make the lights change as trams approach. And you are correct about walking paths needed to correct the high-rise bits across busy roads. Lachlan St is particularly egregious. There is no pedestrian crossing linking the shops and restaurants, and so pedestrians dart across 4 lanes of fast traffic. We have already had one woman killed by a car, but the state government refuses to put in the lights which were planned two years ago, but have now been cancelled. I fear there will be more deaths.

    Let me know if I have not answered your questions – like you I am a public transport user and enthusiast, and am frustrated comparing Sydney to other cities around the world. I am also a keen cyclist, but have given up trying to get to work via bicycle. The police are. vigilant and fine anyone who rides on the footpath, no matter how respectfully or carefully. The roads are just too dangerous, and in 4 years cycling to UNSW from the surrounds has just about died.

38. Here’s something for some to get stuck into…

    Is fragile masculinity the biggest obstacle to climate action?

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-15/is-fragile-masculinity-the-biggest-obstacle-to-climate-action/11797210

39. Just when I was beginning to enjoy the Enlightenment:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/14/religious-discrimination-bill-what-will-australians-be-allowed-to-say-and-do-if-it-passes

    Listen to this shit:

    “A single mother who, when dropping her child off at daycare, may be told by a worker that she is sinful for denying her child a father (Public Interest Advocacy Centre)

    A woman may be told by a manager that women should submit to their husbands or that women should not be employed outside the home (PIAC)

    A student with disability may be told by a teacher their disability is a trial imposed by God (PIAC)”

    My question is whether this statement passes muster:

    “Any LNP MPs who vote for this wicked bill are evil, and deserve the Lord’s vengeance”

    That cool by everyone now? Watch what you unleash here, SmoCo.

40. Greg Jericho

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2019/dec/15/we-need-politicians-to-have-the-guts-to-admit-its-going-to-hurt-to-fight-climate-change

    A conservative stating reality on climate change is now considered a betrayal, and a progressive stating reality is portrayed as an extremist.
    :::
    Yes, people love renewables, but we are going to need to do more – and any political party that wishes to actually do real action will at some point need to be honest with the public that the change is not going to be pleasant for many and it will be costly.

    We are for a start going to need to keep coal in the ground – even our glorious cleaner-than-others coal.
    :::
    That is a scale well beyond anything that current policies will achieve. It is an amount that will require changes in how and what we consume and produce.

    In effect, a change in how we live.

    And it will require a political party able to persuade voters it needs to happen, because the low-hanging fruits of climate change reduction have all been picked.

41. “Sounds familiar to the ‘Death Tax’ campaign by Morrison here. Same people ran Johnson’s campaign, so it figures.”

    ***

    100%

    It’s clear that the far-right are willing to use any dirty tactic they can think of.

42. I find it amazing and rather stupid every time I read or hear about howAlbanese made the wrong decision in touring regional Queensland last week while bush fires raged across the country because “ it did not look good “.

    What a crock of shit. So, with that thinking, every time bushfires cause damage anywhere in the country regional communities across Queensland and other parts of the country that rely on coal mining should be avoided at all costs because the “ optics look bad “.

    How about if a cyclone hits North Queensland or if major floods strike Northern NSW or a natural disaster hit anywhere in the country ? Every time air pollution hits a major city anywhere in Australia ?

    First response on the to do list ? Stay away from regional Queensland because the political optics are bad ?

    What a crock of bullshit.

43. The Democrats should keep the Trump impeachment alive in the House for as long as possible

    Team Trump are already targeting Democrats in those districts Trump won in 2016, esp those up for re-election next year. There are apparently 31 of them, with almost half yet to state how they’ll vote on the impeachment. Already there is one Democrat talking about switching parties, and Dem leadership reckon they’ll have up to 10 or so defections once the vote comes.

    I think the longer this gets dragged out, the more those divisions will come to the fore with the possibility of more Democrat defections.

44. The Canberra Bubble is broken.
    It is keeping out the rain.
    The National Flag on top of Parliament House is shrouded in NSW smoke.
    Smoko brings his own mirrors.

45. doyley @ #42 Sunday, December 15th, 2019 – 9:52 am

    I find it amazing and rather stupid every time I read or hear about Albanese touring regional Queensland last week while bush fires raged across the country.

    What a crock of shit. So, with that thinking, every time bushfires cause damage anywhere in the country regional communities across Queensland and other parts of the country that rely on coal mining should be avoided at all costs because the “ optics look bad “.

    How about if a cyclone hits North Queensland or if major floods strike Northern NSW or a natural disaster hit anywhere in the country ? Every time air pollution hits a major city anywhere in Australia ?

    First response on the to do list ? Stay away from regional Queensland because the political optics are bad ?

    What a crock of bullshit.

    We’re now at a point where the irresponsible and reckless actions of the coal lobby and their parliamentary sock puppets can’t be ignored.

    We’ve reached a tipping point I think, thank goodness.

46. GG

    Who would you say has the greater moral authority,

    Justice Peter McClellan, who presided over the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Abuse, or Cardinal George Pell?

    What does your personal sky fairy think?

47. “ScoMo has now been redubbed SmoCo.”

    ***

    How appropriate!

48. Good Morning

    Glad to see the realisation about our media here. In fixing a problem the first step is acknowledging there is one.

    The media is a very large part of why we had Labor lose the election after the leadership wars.

    That same media is responsible for the voters perception that Labor is a threat to freedom of religion in Western Sydney and that you must support coal to block environmental action.

    I think Katherine Murphy gets things wrong because she is inside the bubble but at least she is a different voice.
    This is why I have argued that Labor needs an antitrust law. It forces media diversity without targeting media specifically.

    With results similar to the UK with voters views about Labor.
    The first thing Labor needs to do is get seats in south east Queensland. Convince Western Sydney that no Labor is not a threat to religion and most of all convince voters all the bad economic news is the LNP betraying them not Labor.

    This is very hard when voters have over a period of years taken this narrative on board as told to them by Alan Jones Sky News after Dark and the like.

    They are not low information voters they are voters in an information bubble who get their news from old media and Facebook.

    For any message from Labor to get through that certainty the best bet is have media in their living rooms. That means Breakfast Television. That means appearing on Sky News etc. That means having a strong ground game in those electorates to counter the media in person to person conversation.

    Zoomster has gone to very good descriptions of why people vote Nationals as has Gabriel Chan. In fact it explains the world view of Katherine Murphy. She grew up in that culture even if she did wake up it still affects her views.

    Labor has to make a cultural impact so part of voters identity is not Labor and the Greens are same same and toxic extreme people. This starts with not accepting the Greens are extreme and going out there and doing the hard yards about why denying climate change is the real extremism.

    It needs to be a campaign in the same way as has been done against anti vaxxers and tobacco smoking.
    You have to change the narrative so people are open to hearing Labor’s message before voters will even consider it. You don’t do this by parroting the LNP lines like coal is good for jobs. What you are doing is enabling that very culture Alan Jones and the LNP have carefully groomed.

    This ground work has to be done by locals too. It cannot be blow ins from the city. That is just the city elites talking down to the voters

    Edit: Start with the firefighters.

49. doyley
    As we all know the following spent six years Killing Bill: Abbott, Turnbull, Morrison, Murdoch, Di Natale, McCormack, Katter, Hanson and Palmer. Spot the odd one out. Haha.
    They spent hundreds of millions of dollars Killing Bill.
    They went about Killing Bill in all sorts of ways.
    One of the ways they systematically Killed Bill: set up an endless series of spurious fake timing tests.
    Which, lo and behold, Shorten failed every single occasion.
    It turned out that it was never the right time for Shorten to do anything.

    They are feeling their way with killing the Leader of the Opposition.
    Morrison tried out ‘Captain Angry’ a few weeks ago.
    Their focus groups will be telling Morrison not to be stupid about captain angry.
    They (included here were sundry Greens) tried the old ‘zinger’ put down.
    That fell flat.

    So, they are working on how to Assassinate Albo but haven’t quite worked out how to do it yet.

50. BW

    You give very good examples of why the LNP keep winning elections. Every day on repeat you tell people the Greens are extreme not the LNP

    Edit: Oh and if you have any doubt about the power of this bubble. See Trump supporters in the bubble despite the much more diverse US media landscape.