Essential Research: budget surplus and economic management

Essential Research’s latest suggests voters still give the Coalition the edge on economic management, but are nervous about their prioritisation of surplus over stimulus.

It hasn’t yet appeared on the organisation’s website, but The Guardian had reports on Tuesday concerning the latest fortnightly poll from Essential Research, which is still holding its fire on voting intention. There’s the usual general report on the survey from Katharine Murphy, plus analysis from pollster Peter Lewis that features detailed tables for two of the key questions.

The headline finding is that 56% would favour prioritising economic stimulus at the cost of a later budget surplus to avoid a downturn, compared with 33% who favour a surplus as first priority. Other indicators of economic sentiment were more favourable for the government: only 29% of respondents deemed the government’s economic management the most likely cause of the IMF’s recent downgrade in Australia’s growth forecast, compared with 52% for factors outside the government’s control most likely to blame (comprising 42% for global factors and 10% for local ones), and 49% expressed greater trust in the Coalition to handle economic management compared with 34% for Labor (compared with 44% to 29% when the question was last asked in March). A question on the Extinction Rebellion movement found more favourable sentiment than you might have expected from following the news: 52% expressed support for the campaign, while 44% were opposed.

The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1033 respondents out of the pollster’s online panel.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. lizzie
    Among my many pedantic quibbles is trying to restore the real meaning of “prophet”. It should not mean “foreteller”, but does mean “speaker for G*d”.
    In other words “Unless you improve your wicked ways, ‘something BAD’ will happen”
    In the Tanakh (Hebrew scriptures) most of the “prophecies” were written hundreds of years after the BAD happened, so it was foretelling the past from the future POV.
    The early Christian church could not deal with prophets, so exterminated them to preserve the power of the hierarchy. (also for any women with uppity ideas)

  2. The people of California have an unwanted export of ours -the Eucalypt tree – adding to their fire woes.

    The eucalyptus tree has been something of a menace in the history of California wildfires and has played a role in sparking the Getty fire in west Los Angeles, officials say.
    ……..
    The eucalyptus tree isn’t native to California is actually considered an invasive species. Not only can the trees alter fire patterns and soil moisture, but eucalyptus oil is highly flammable and in some places have been known to explode when they catch fire.

    That’s why efforts have been made in California to clear away the trees in an effort to reduce fire risk.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/oct/30/california-wildfires-new-blaze-erupts-as-strong-winds-spread-live-news?page=with:block-5db9bb938f08cb84c60a189f#block-5db9bb938f08cb84c60a189f

    Edit: click link “Video: the moment the Getty fire started”

  3. I will say again, that if the labour movement wants to restart the journey to relevance, they need to be seen to oppose cases like this. I suggested they should have an online site listing firms like retailers, cafes and restaurants that pay award wages. The idea would be to name and shame those who don’t. Consumer boycotts can be effective where advocacy fails. At present the SDAs only effective purpose is to garner fees and delegates so their hacks can win preselection.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-30/woolworths-underpays-5700-staff-up-to-300-million-dollars/11652656?section=business

  4. Hi Socrates,
    Has Angus Taylor reached “embattled” status?

    If he was a Labor or Greens politician he would, by now, be a ” human headline” (apologies to Derryn)

  5. Should the IPA be registered as a political party? They have more influence than some.

    The Liberal senator James McGrath and the former Liberal candidate Jacinta Price have fronted an Institute of Public Affairs advertisement attacking any proposal for an Indigenous voice to parliament, claiming it will divide Australians by race.

    The inflammatory intervention comes just a day after the minister for Indigenous Australians, Ken Wyatt, launched a co-design process with Indigenous people on the voice to parliament.

    The negative advertising suggests the rightwing thinktank and aligned Coalition conservatives will continue to campaign against a voice despite the government’s repeated efforts to signal that the First Nations representative body will be legislated rather than enshrined in the constitution.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/31/liberals-front-institute-of-public-affairs-ad-attacking-indigenous-voice-to-parliament

  6. At present the SDAs only effective purpose is to garner fees and delegates so their hacks can win preselection.

    Jeezus, when will this stupid blinkered nonsense stop!?!

  7. Warmonger John Bolton was livid over Trump’s big talk, little stick foreign policy – let’s see what he is prepared to reveal…

    “House impeachment investigators on Wednesday summoned John Bolton, President Trump’s former national security adviser, and two other top White House officials for depositions next week, according to a person familiar with the notices. The letters took the form of voluntary requests, rather than subpoenas.

    Based on the accounts of witnesses who have already spoken with investigators, Mr. Bolton could be a marquee witness. They have described how he was alarmed in real time about the actions of Mr. Trump’s private lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, and other administration officials close to Mr. Trump. Mr. Bolton left his position in September amid disagreements with Mr. Trump.

    But it is unclear if Mr. Bolton will appear. As a senior aide to Mr. Trump, the White House could claim that he is absolutely immune from providing testimony from Congress and direct him not to show up. Mr. Bolton, a longtime Republican, would then have to decide whether to defy the White House’s wishes.

    In addition to requesting Mr. Bolton to appear next Thursday, investigators dispatched notices for John Eisenberg, the top lawyer for the National Security Council, and Michael Ellis, one of his deputies, to appear on Monday. They could face similar decisions about whether to satisfy the White House directives or congressional demands.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/us/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-updates.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

  8. Socrates

    I will say again, that if the labour movement wants to restart the journey to relevance, they need to be seen to oppose cases like this. I suggested they should have an online site listing firms like retailers, cafes and restaurants that pay award wages. The idea would be to name and shame those who don’t. Consumer boycotts can be effective where advocacy fails. At present the SDAs only effective purpose is to garner fees and delegates so their hacks can win preselection.

    The SDA could create a phone App for all hospitality employees -make it free to all.
    Enter your employment details and find your employment agreement to check what you should be paid.
    A clever programmer would make it simple to use.
    Then click a button to upload anonymised info to the site.
    Plaudits for the good employer, brickbats for the thieves.

  9. A thoughtful speech coming from Clare O’Neil…

    “I see a bunch of new faultlines emerging which are increasingly important at the ballot box,” O’Neil will say. “I see a faultline between winners and losers in a digital economy which provides vastly more economic rewards to people who live in our cities. I see a faultline dividing Australians who want the community to look more like it did in the past, and those who love and value change.

    “A faultline dividing people who are worried about global interdependence, and those who see opportunity for global influence. A faultline between those who relish economic change and those who resist it.

    “Between young people who feel locked out of a life enjoyed by older generations, and those who think that kids have never had it better. Between open and closed, authoritarian and decentralised, the elites and the masses.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/31/labors-clare-oneil-says-party-cannot-afford-to-just-shift-to-the-left-or-right

  10. Lizzie

    Should the IPA be registered as a political party? They have more influence than some

    The IPA should be investigated by the Electoral Commission, like GetUp, for Associated Entity status.
    And do Murdoch’s papers while they are at it.

  11. sprocket_,
    You should read about what Bolton saw and heard:

    Details of the July 10 sequence, which Bolton likened to an illicit “drug deal,” have emerged from witnesses’ testimony before House lawmakers over the past several weeks.

    The most recent account came Tuesday from Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the top Ukraine adviser at the White House, who witnessed the meetings and listened to the subsequent phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

    …But after seeing Sondland outline political demands that Trump would reiterate in his July 25 call, Vindman said, he became worried that what he had witnessed was improper, imperilled Ukraine’s ability to withstand Russian aggression and “would all undermine U.S. national security.”

    The July 10 meetings have become a focal point for congressional investigators in part because Sondland articulated a seeming quid pro quo — a Zelensky visit to the White House in exchange for investigations beneficial to Trump — before a room full of witnesses, providing evidence that elements within the administration were working to pressure Ukraine well before the Trump-Zelensky call.

    The reactions of Bolton, Vindman and others also underscore the extent to which even those who worked in the White House were deeply disturbed by conduct that triggered an extraordinary whistleblower complaint against the president and set in motion the impeachment inquiry.

    The West Wing meetings on July 10 increasingly appear to mark the moment of detonation of the Ukraine crisis inside the White House, though by then Bolton, Vindman, then-White House Russia adviser Fiona Hill and others had become suspicious that Trump was pursuing a secret agenda.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/two-volatile-meetings-at-the-white-house-have-become-central-to-the-impeachment-inquiry/2019/10/29/aae1836e-fa7d-11e9-8190-6be4deb56e01_story.html

    And it goes on to detail how Sondland removed the Ukrainians from Bolton’s purview and took them to a secret room in the White House to continue the discussion! No wonder Bolton blew up!

  12. lizzie @ #3 Thursday, October 31st, 2019 – 6:34 am

    I dreamt last night that Rupert Murdoch had died. I suppose because of his age this doesn’t qualify me as a prophet, just a dreamer!

    Guitar, dobro, bass, mandolin

    ♫I’ve met some ♫ folks
    Who ♫ ♪ say that I’m ♫ a ♪ dreamer
    ♪ And I’ve ♫ no ♪ doubt
    ♪ There’s truth ♫ in what ♪ they say
    But ♫ sure a body’s ♫ bound to be a ♪ dreamer
    When ♫ all the ♪ things she ♫ loves are ♪ far away

    P.S. Mr. Murdoch’s sons may be well able to uphold the traditions of the dynasty.

  13. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    David Crowe reports that Angus Taylor is promising to send a letter “this week” to apologise to Sydney lord mayor Clover Moore for his false claims about her travel expenses amid a police review of the matter. Such spontaneity!
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/angus-taylor-promises-apology-letter-to-clover-moore-this-week-20191030-p535vp.html
    According to Eryk Bagshaw complaints to the superannuation watchdog surged by 38 per cent in the three months following the banking royal commission, with the biggest culprits costing workers up to $188,000 at retirement.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/superannuation-complaints-surge-38-per-cent-after-royal-commission-20191030-p535r0.html
    John Warhurst explains why it’s a particularly hard time out here for a politician right now.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6465753/why-its-a-particularly-hard-time-out-here-for-a-politician-right-now/?cs=14258
    Greg Jericho writes that the hunt for signs of exuberance in the Australian economy will have to continue as the latest inflation figures released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics on Wednesday showed that demand in the economy remains utterly stagnant.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2019/oct/31/still-no-inflation-to-speak-of-in-a-stagnant-australian-economy
    If economics is a science, why isn’t it being more helpful asks Richard Denniss.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/30/if-economics-is-a-science-why-isnt-it-being-more-helpful
    Anne Davies reports that the federal government has received not a drop of water for the $80m it spent on buying water entitlements from Eastern Australia Agriculture in 2017, a company once linked to, Angus Taylor. She points at Barnaby Joyce’s involvement.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/31/not-a-drop-of-water-after-government-spends-80m-on-rights-from-agribusiness
    Michelle Grattan writes that Proposed Indigenous ‘voice’ will be to government rather than to parliament.
    https://theconversation.com/proposed-indigenous-voice-will-be-to-government-rather-than-to-parliament-126031
    Judith Ireland writes that with the aged care royal commission due to hand down its first report today, the Council on the Ageing wants to see the commission push the sector to provide more information about services, complaints and quality standards.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/need-to-be-transparent-call-for-online-reviews-of-aged-care-providers-20191030-p535mq.html
    First time home owner Judith Ireland tells us about her two year experience of getting to that point.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/i-m-a-home-owner-at-last-but-hold-the-bubbly-too-many-are-left-behind-20191030-p535ru.html
    Following on from yesterday’s story about the ACCC’s action the Australian privacy commissioner has now revealed it is also examining Google’s handling of personal data,
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/privacy-commissioner-making-inquiries-into-google-as-accc-court-battle-looms-20191030-p535m5.html
    The government will need to demonstrate it can deliver both lower prices and lower emissions if it is to attract broader community support for its climate targets says Jennifer Hewett.
    https://www.afr.com/policy/energy-and-climate/powering-down-on-energy-politics-20191030-p535tw
    Pru Goward explains why young retail staff are experiencing sexual harassment.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/young-and-powerless-why-retail-staff-endure-sexual-harassment-20191029-p535jd.html
    Sean Kelly wants voter impatience to end.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/please-just-let-it-end-the-power-of-voter-impatience-from-brexit-to-trump-to-morrison-20191030-p535mm.html
    Elizabeth Knight delves into Woolworths’ admission of around $300m of wages underpayment.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/woolworths-the-latest-perpetrator-in-the-wage-underpayment-epidemic-20191030-p535sk.html
    The NSW corruption watchdog has been asked to investigate a planning decision which could deliver a $135 million windfall for the Chinese billionaire Huang.
    https://www.afr.com/politics/icac-called-to-investigate-huang-s-planning-windfall-20191030-p535qn
    Dana McCauley writes on the Productivity Commission’s finding that mental ill health and suicide are costing Australia up to $180 billion a year and services are failing to meet “community expectations”.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6467037/mental-illness-and-suicide-costing-500-million-a-day/?cs=14350
    Labor must reach beyond social media hysteria and develop a new narrative on the economy, next-generation frontbencher Clare O’Neil says, claiming the traditional Right and Left battle is no longer a defining political division. Rob Harris outlines her thoughts in general.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/our-voters-hear-sanctimony-labor-mp-on-progressives-and-political-correctness-20191030-p535wa.html
    Stephen Bartholomeusz wonders whether the RBA’s low interest rates solve slow growth or actually cause it.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/the-rba-s-conundrum-do-low-rates-solve-low-growth-or-cause-it-20191030-p535qg.html
    The US Federal Reserve cut official interest rates for the third time but indicated it has finished for now what chairman Jerome Powell previously called a “mid-cycle adjustment”.
    https://www.afr.com/world/north-america/fed-cuts-key-rate-for-third-time-but-signals-it-is-now-on-hold-20191031-p535yv
    The Liberal senator James McGrath and the former Liberal candidate Jacinta Price have fronted an Institute of Public Affairs advertisement attacking any proposal for an Indigenous voice to parliament, claiming it will divide Australians by race. Hardly surprising.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/31/liberals-front-institute-of-public-affairs-ad-attacking-indigenous-voice-to-parliament
    A whistleblower claimed a Ryde councillor intervened on behalf of a developer wanting approval for apartment block that failed fire safety standards. Carrie Fellner explains how the council then “unfairly” pushed the burden of fixing the fire defects onto “unsuspecting owners”.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/rushed-and-bogus-council-and-developer-accused-over-new-tower-safety-scandal-20191029-p535bo.html
    A number of Catholic, Anglican and Baptist bodies have joined the national redress scheme, paving the way for payments and services to be provided to more abuse survivors. But still no Hillsong.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6467258/more-churches-join-abuse-redress-scheme/?cs=14231&utm_source=website&utm_medium=home&utm_campaign=latestnews
    Meanwhile the Canberra Times calls for the ACT Government to find a valid alternative for the role played by school chaplains.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6466841/we-need-a-valid-alternative-for-chaplains/?cs=14258
    Finbar O’Mallon reports on evidence being presented to the parliamentary inquiry is examining the adequacy of the $40-a-day Newstart payment, with pressure on the government to increase it by $75 per week.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6465100/newstart-recipients-thrown-in-a-hole/?cs=14350
    The car industry is bracing for more change over the next few years than it has experienced in the past century as the electric revolution combines with the advent of self-driving technology and other innovations such as vehicle sharing systems. Alan Tovey wonders which car makers will survive.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/vw-could-be-in-serious-trouble-which-carmakers-will-survive-the-electric-revolution-20191030-p535jw.html
    Bloomberg says that UBS can see a “world of trouble” ahead of Wall Street.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/don-t-believe-the-hype-ubs-sees-world-of-trouble-for-wall-street-20191030-p535tn.html
    In their last pre-election parliamentary head-to-head, Boris Johnson wanted to talk Brexit while Jeremy Corbyn focused on the overstretched health system.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/jeremy-corbyn-hopes-winter-election-poses-health-scare-for-boris-johnson-20191031-p535yq.html
    Nick Miller says that this will be a “get Brexit done” election, the de facto second referendum that many had warned mustn’t happen.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-johnson-s-brexit-election-ploy-20191030-p535km.html
    The UK Guardian looks at a new report that says tactical voting could swing a victory for pro-remain parties in the December election.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/30/tactical-voting-could-deliver-remain-victory-in-election-study
    Greg Miller explains what is reported to have happened in two volatile meetings in the White House over Ukraine and Trump’s demands.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/two-volatile-meetings-at-the-white-house-become-focus-of-impeachment-inquiry-20191031-p535yk.html
    Time for conspiracy theorists to line up! A noted forensic pathologist who viewed Jeffrey Epstein’s autopsy said that the sex trafficker’s injuries were more consistent with strangulation than with suicide, and he called upon law enforcement authorities to dig deeper into how Epstein died.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/jeffrey-epstein-s-injuries-look-more-like-murder-than-suicide-noted-pathologist-says-20191031-p535yi.html

    Cartoon Corner

    A couple from David Rowe.


    Cathy Wilcox lines up Angus Taylor.

    John Shakespeare and the lack of an indigenous voice.


    Halloween with Andrew Dyson.

    Matt Golding with a Trump special and the Brexit election.


    From a very cynical Fiona Katauskas.

    Zanetti and Labor’s coal turnaround.

    Jon Kudelka and the other side of wage theft.
    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/00dc885228622c3489f897a3d982e047

    From the US












  14. ‘Damning cacophony of incriminating testimony’ that Trump abused power: Nicolle Wallace

    MSNBC anchor Nicolle Wallace updated “Deadline: White House” viewers on the growing evidence against the Trump administration as Congress continues to take testimony in the impeachment investigation.

    The host reported, “today more high-level Trump Administration insiders are testifying on Capitol Hill under subpoena and drawing the line directly to Donald Trump and his demand for dirt on his political rivals in the fast-moving scandal.”

    “Today’s witnesses in the impeachment investigation expect it to paint a damning picture of what increasingly seems to amount to abuse of power from the president. The president’s lawyers sought to block the testimony of today’s witnesses, Catherine Croft and Christopher Anderson. Both of them hailed from the National Security Council and worked as advisers to former Ukraine envoy Kurt Volker.”

    Wallace reported on the “damning cacophony of incriminating testimony up on Capitol Hill today. In an unexpected twist Donald Trump’s hand-picked Ambassador to Russia John Sullivan testified as part of his confirmation hearing and broke with the president on whether it was appropriate to seek political dirt on rivals from foreign leaders.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/damning-cacophony-of-incriminating-testimony-that-trump-abused-power-nicolle-wallace/

  15. The SDA is just a preselection farm that’s preoccupied with controlling the ALP that does just the bare minimum to be considered a trade union (and congratulates itself obscenely for those small things on social media.) Worst part is the influence it has is used to push the agenda of socially conservative curmudgeons and big business stooges who have a nest-egg waiting if they can just poison any ALP policy for economic reform.

    It’s a shame because the members are stuck in a position that they either join and empower them, and get at least the minimal protection that comes with it, or not join and get no protection at all.

  16. Maude Lynne

    The SDA could create a phone App for all hospitality employees -make it free to all.

    Fantastic idea. all unions do it. A great way to provide a gateway for people who have no contact/knowledge/membership to make contact and show the value unions can have for them. It would have to help membership numbers and would at the very least be a good PR move. Something counter to the usual Murdoch river of anti union propaganda.

  17. Regarding “Associated Entity” status, the AEC has a list of criteria. This one would seem to include the IPA and Newscorp Australia:

    “…or, that operates wholly or to a significant extent for the benefit of one or more registered political parties; or…”

    https://www.aec.gov.au/Parties_and_Representatives/financial_disclosure/guides/associated-entities/index.htm

    If GetUp is an associated entity, the IPA certainly is. It actually had a big role in setting up the “Liberal” party from the ruins of the original UAP.

    There must surely be a strong case for Newscorp Australia, which provides the equivalent of tens of millions of dollars per annum of free advertising for the Coalition.


  18. Player One says:
    Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 6:46 pm

    Because it alienates the very people you need to get to vote for you. You would think the easiest votes for Labor to pick up are those who vote (1) Green, (2) Liberals.

    A (1) Green, (2) Liberal accurately reflects what the greens are about. If people vote thus they are looking for a conservative government, so be it.

    The problem is those that vote (1) Green, (2) Labor under the allusion that it is a more progressive vote or a a vote for the environment. It is not, it is a vote 1) for a party whose aim is the same as the Liberals, the destruction of Labor, a party that has done more than talked about creating marine parks.

  19. Hmm, the retail workers who I have spoken to, not at any ALP meeting but at the shops at which they work, have supported the work their union, the SDA, does for them under the difficult circumstance of going up against 2 very large corporations, Woolworths and Coles, who have former Liberal staffers in the top echelons of their businesses and whose preferred option is not to have unions in the workplace at all. They appreciate the constant contact the union has with them and the hard work they put in with their employers on their behalf.

    Yes, the SDA has backed certain ALP candidates for office. Yes, a lot of them are Catholic. They’re not alone on either side of politics there, such as with the NFF for the Nationals and the IPA and various churches for the Liberals, however it appears that the SDA are the ones that need to be vilified.

    Some people are never happy, on the other hand. 🙂

  20. Had the SDA fought valiantly for SSM and at last the LGB half of LGBTIQ, every single post on PB would be praising the virtues of SDA. Such a wonderful union!

    In an age of precarious employment in retail, underemployment in retail and abuse of foreign workers in retail, the SDA has done probably as well as it could. Sure, its culture at the top is the old catholic right but this is also that part of the old catholic right that was infused with the notion that Jesus did not much like people being ripped off by the money lenders and their ilk.

    If you want to see what a parallel situation looks like but without the SDA, look at the awful things that are happening to the non-unionized rural workers.

    I can’t recall any of the anti-SDA Brigade comrades talking about rural labour’s miserable experiences at all. Are these same comrades at the barricades against the stinking accomodation, the sexually exploited young women, and the massive wage theft that is institutionalized through rural labour hire?

    FMD. No way. It is hot out there. And dusty. And there are flies. And there is probably cow and sheep shit. And, gasp, GMOs!

    The earnest comrades leave no stone unturned – except when it comes to actually lifting a finger to help the helpless.

  21. I am old enough to have met some of the old time comrades out in the bush.
    They were card carrying and I got on well enough with some of them to show me their cards. Quite a moment of personal trust for a non comrade!

    Those old comrades did things like help the homeless steal building materials from the plutocrats.

    The modern comrades could learn a thing or two from them, except that the modern comrades already know more than anyone else about everything so that there is nothing left to learn.

  22. Poroti

    Re the phone App for employees, it would need to be free, useful, easy to use, and make the link to the union very low key.

    We need to appeal to people who do not think unions can help them, so placing posters in workplaces or on social media, with a QRcode link to the App download site, and no mention of the Union, would be the way to go.

    Poster could just say “Wondering about your pay / hours/ workplace safety? This App has the answers.”

  23. C@tmomma
    says:
    going up against 2 very large corporations, Woolworths and Coles, who have former Liberal staffers in the top echelons of their businesses and whose preferred option is not to have unions in the workplace at all…..
    ________________________________
    On the contrary. Those corporations love the SDA because for years they were able to pay less than the award to hundreds of thousands on the EBA. Also, the SDA kickback a very large amount to the supermarkets for collecting the dues. $40 million of members money over the past decade.
    ===============================================
    The union’s methods for gaining and maintaining members are unusual by current industrial relations standards. It pays up to 10 per cent of members’ dues in commissions to major employers including Coles and Woolworths, ostensibly for the cost of payroll deductions.
    The fees – totaling as much as $5 million a year – are likely well in excess of the true cost to employers of electronic payroll deductions.
    The figures are based on publicly available accounts for some of the larger SDA branches which detail the “commission” payments.

    Other unions, including the National Union of Workers and meat workers union, also pay fees for payroll deductions, but the payments are much lower and in the tens of thousands, not millions.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/shoppies-union-pay-coles-and-woolworths-millions-to-boost-membership-20150501-1mxufa.html

  24. Maude Lyn

    I agree on the phone app too. I think I suggested that the first time I suggested the retail salary naming and shaming. Of course it might make it harder for the SDA to cut deals with corporations. So lets hope the RFFWU steps up to the plate and defends our lowest paid workers. As in this case.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/work/2019/10/30/why-woolworths-really-disclosed-300-million-underpayment/

    They could make the app free for members and a small fee for consumers to cover the cost of updates.

  25. [Labor must reach beyond social media hysteria and develop a new narrative on the economy, next-generation frontbencher Clare O’Neil says, claiming the traditional Right and Left battle is no longer a defining political division. Rob Harris outlines her thoughts in general.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/our-voters-hear-sanctimony-labor-mp-on-progressives-and-political-correctness-20191030-p535wa.html%5D

    Buzz expressions like “next generation frontbencher”, “new narrative”, “tectonic plates”, “defining…” suggest a need for some more simplicity and directness in whatever is being said.

  26. Love the anecdotes of vast, independent research of testimonials by the usual septuagenarians who spend all day on here barking their subjective opinions at everyone and are totally not motivated to make complete bullshit up to validate their viewpoints.

    I’ve talked to fifty million retail workers and they’ve all told me I’m right. Also, I’ve doorknocked 698,000,000,000 homes and voters have all told me I am completely right about everything.

  27. I have seen several videos of police actions during the protests in Melbourne and I do hope that there will be some serious analysis after all the excitement has died down.

  28. Fortunately in this case the meatworkers union beat the SDA:

    Thanks to the tireless efforts of the AMIEU, the dodgy deal cooked up between the corporate-loving SDA union and Coles was officially killed off on May 31 2016. This deal would have seen Coles meat workers ripped off by up to $15,000 a year, after the SDA stepped into AMIEU territory and agreed to help Coles out by slashing penalty rates and conditions.
    Alongside young Coles employee Duncan Hart, the AMIEU successfully convinced the Fair Work Commission to deliver a Full Bench verdict that showed clearly how Coles workers would be worse off under the new agreement. Coles refused to renegotiate the arrangement and as a result it was thrown out — a massive win for workers.

    https://newcastle.amieu.asn.au/victories/coles-meat-workers-protected/

  29. Socrates

    “They could make the app free for members and a small fee for consumers to cover the cost of updates”

    I think totally free is the way to go. The union should see it as part of their marketing budget.

  30. Thanks BK. On that story about sea level rise, it highlights a growing trend in climate scientists – giving up on the IPCC process and reporting the truth directly, which is usually far worse than watered down IPCC reports suggest. I recommend this organisation. Their sea level rise report is worth reading. Best case we will see nearly a metre sea level rise this century.
    https://sealevel.climatecentral.org/

    Another oceanographer, John Englander, thinks it is already too late to stop Greenland melting. That means seven metres. Al Gore was right.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH8Q8Ki9fCA

    Have a good day all.

  31. and 49% expressed greater trust in the Coalition to handle economic management compared with 34% for Labor

    Incredible after all the economic mismanagement scandals from this lot. I guess this just says it all that people simply have a perception of reality and that perception is tough to shift.

  32. Desi @ #36 Thursday, October 31st, 2019 – 8:22 am

    Love the anecdotes of vast, independent research of testimonials by the usual septuagenarians who spend all day on here barking their subjective opinions at everyone and are totally not motivated to make complete bullshit up to validate their viewpoints.

    I’ve talked to fifty million retail workers and they’ve all told me I’m right. Also, I’ve doorknocked 698,000,000,000 homes and voters have all told me I am completely right about everything.

    nasty nath, is that you? 🙂

  33. Thanks Hillary! Not!! She should just go away.

    Josh JordanVerified account@NumbersMuncher
    3h3 hours ago
    USA Today/Suffolk 2020 Democratic primary poll (change from last):

    Biden 26 (-6)
    Warren 17 (+3)
    Sanders 13 (+1)
    Buttigieg 10 (+4)
    Gabbard 4 (not sure)
    Harris 3 (-3)
    Yang 3 (no change)
    All others 2 and under

    So much to digest, but Gabbard up to 5th after Hillary’s free PR

    Dave WeigelVerified account@daveweigel
    3h3 hours ago
    That’s a fair take. Gabbard is actually getting *less* popular with registered Dems, but Clinton’s jab at her (and Gabbard’s response) signaled to R-leaning independents that she’s the mischief candidate they should support.

  34. I don’t know how the far right can claim that GetUp is doing the bidding of Labor when the two are so frequently at odds with one another on major issues.

    For just two major examples, GetUp is strongly opposed to the Adani mine going ahead. They are also totally opposed to the horrific abuse of innocent asylum seekers.

    Frankly, those claiming GetUp is just a mouthpiece for the Labor party clearly have no idea what either group supports.

    And yes, to be fair, many of the Labor Left do indeed support GetUp and their campaigns. They are good people. This again highlights the stranglehold that the Labor Right Faction has over the policy direction of the party. In reality, those good people of the Labor Left are just being used to make up the numbers to support the will of the Right.

  35. Confessions
    It is accepted as a truism by lots of Bludgers that it is going to take a smashing recession under the Coalition to shift that view.
    The implicit corollary is that enough people are doing well enough under the Coalition to need a smashing recession to change their view.
    In other words, the majority of Australians have a lived experience of real wealth gain (and the promise of real wealth gain for the aspirational voters) to equal around 56%.
    This would be about right in terms of wealth statistics.
    And once you give your single choice on this domain to the Coalition then there is not the chance to vote again for Labor. In a sense it is a fake binary.

  36. C@tmomma
    says:
    nasty nath, is that you?
    ______________________
    The AIMEU (Australasian Meat Industry Employees Union) call the SDA ‘corporate loving’ and explain how the SDA and supermarkets tried to rip their members off to the tune of 15k a year and here you are supporting them. How many Coles shares do you have?

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