The Australian reports absolutely no change on voting intention in the latest Newspoll, which is now appearing predictably on a three-weekly schedule. The Coalition continues to lead 51-49 on two-party preferred, from primary votes of Coalition 42%, Labor 33%, Greens 13% (maintaining a four-year high) and One Nation 6%. Scott Morrison is steady on 47% approval and up two on disapproval to 45%, while Anthony Albanese’s ratings continue to yo-yo, with approval down two to 37% and disapproval up four to 44%. Despite that, Morrison’s lead as preferred minister is now at 47-32, narrowing from 50-31. The field work period was presumably Thursday to Sunday, and the sample presumably between 1600 and 1700. UPDATE: The sample was 1634, consisting of 953 online and 681 automated phone poll surveys, the latter breakdown still being the only concession offered to greater transparency since the election.
Note also below this post Adrian Beaumont’s latest on Brexit and Canada.
Tristo
Labor doesn’t have to.
All they have to do is ask about the security risk of associating with someone the FBI has labelled a terrorist organisation.
Tristo,
Or, in the words of Michael Pascoe:
Whether Scott Morrison’s wife’s friend’s husband is a conspiracy theorist isn’t an especially important question for me; what is important is whether our Prime Minister is a nutter.
We don’t know the answer to that more important question.
Mr Morrison won’t let us know. He won’t discuss the issues that have led to that question.
They’re “gossip”, “bubble”, “family privacy”. Running away from what should be simple matters creates fears about how bad the answers might be.
And his government has had to fall into line, stonewalling attempts to delve into two of the mysteries that help give rise to the nutter question.
In anything like normal times, it would sound like a conspiracy theory to question whether the Australian PM is given to conspiracy theories.
These are not normal times. It has become a rational question.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/10/23/scott-morrison-links-qanon-conspiracy/
@guytaur
Which organisation was that, may I ask?
Murdoch, or absence thereof.
Tristo:
[‘…and might believe in the rapture.’]
Please delete “might” and insert “does”.
Tristo
Qanon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#FBI_domestic_terrorism_assessment
AR. More terrible stuff. Seth Abramson, a liberal professor and political commentator is also using the term ‘trump enemy’ in his latest book. Contact his publisher for all our sakes and complain!
Proof of Conspiracy
https://books.google.com.au › books
… kill a personal enemy who is a U.S. resident is harrowing enough; that it might be used to criminally blackmail a Trump enemy using a Trump friend as an intermediary brings the prospect of Trump-Saudi collusion to another level entirely.
Look AR. The New Yorker is also using the term. God Help us all!
The crime that would merit her locking up was left unspecified; her gender, perhaps, and her status as a Trump enemy,
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/trumps-message-for-2020-the-democrats-are-a-wacko-mob
How fragile can you get?
More detail from estimates.
Ex- NSA on the Republicans storming the secure area :
John SchindlerVerified account @20committee
The invasion of a SCIF by unauthorized persons isn’t protest — it’s a Federal crime with serious #natsec implications. Lethal force is authorized to defend SCIFs. This isn’t a joke. Next time Gaetz & his merry band of felons try this stunt, they should be ready for consequences.
House Homeland Security chairman directs sergeant at arms to ‘take action’ against Republicans who raided SCIF
On Wednesday, House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-MS) sent a letter to the Congressional sergeant at arms, Paul Irving, asking him to “take action” against the gang of House Republicans who invaded the classified information facility during an impeachment hearing.
“This unprecedented breach of security raises serious concerns for Committee Chairmen, including me, responsible for maintaining SCIFs,” wrote Thompson. “As such, I am requesting you take action with respect to the Members involved in the breach. More broadly, I urge you to take House-wide action to remind all Members about the dangers of such reckless action and the potential national security risks of such behavior.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/house-homeland-security-chairman-directs-sergeant-at-arms-to-take-action-against-republicans-who-raided-scif/
You’re demonstrating my point for me. The term is so ubiquitous as to be meaningless.
Trump has enemies all over the place. The world is lousy with them. 🙂
Nous sommes tous Trump Enemy.
phR
The ratbag right only does democracy and rules when it suits them.
A R
says:
Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 11:52 am
Look AR. The New Yorker is also using the term.
You’re demonstrating my point for me. The term is so ubiquitous as to be meaningless.
Trump has enemies all over the place. The world is lousy with them.
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Still. I think if you complain about my use of the term. You should also complain to the New Yorker et al. I mean anything less than that makes you come off as a bit of a wanker right?
As for attacking the LNP on conspiracy theories here is some ammunition
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conspiracy-theory-taylor-accused-of-relying-on-fake-documents-to-attack-moore-20191024-p533pk.html
nath @ #914 Thursday, October 24th, 2019 – 11:54 am
Ha!
phoenixRED:
[‘Next time Gaetz & his merry band of felons try this stunt, they should be ready for consequences.’]
They shouldn’t be given a chance. They should be charged with contempt and sent to the slammer.
NewsweekVerified account @Newsweek
Anthony Scaramucci says Mitch McConnell will soon ask Donald Trump to “take one for the team” and leave office
Speaking to Vanity Fair, the political consultant—whose time in White House communications totaled six days—suggested that “more damning” information on Trump would emerge and force Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to take action.
“In the next three to six weeks, there will be more damning information related to the president” that will come out, Scaramucci said
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-anthony-scaramucci-leave-office-impeached-mar-lago-1467129?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter
Mavis says: Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 11:57 am
phoenixRED:
[‘Next time Gaetz & his merry band of felons try this stunt, they should be ready for consequences.’]
They shouldn’t be given a chance. They should be charged with contempt and sent to the slammer.
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Writer Greg OlearVerified account @gregolear
Said it before and I’ll say it again: all it will take is ONE arrest, and these cowards will trip over themselves to heel. That goes for subpoena violators and SCIF squatters. One photo of a traitor in cuffs, and we’re done here.
How’s draining the swamp and locking her up looking now?
phoenixRED:
Thanks. I was unaware of McDougal’s imprisonment.
@guytaur
Oh, those people, seriously once Trump is out of power, the Qanon movement are going to be seen by the American government and a lot of the people as terrorists. Especially if rabid Trump supporters (who believe heavily in the QAnon conspiracy theory) decide to launch an armed insurrection, if Trump is impeached and removed from office. So, Morrison’s association with QAnon is going make Morrison be seen with suspicion by the US government.
Although, I can’t imagine Morrison being so stupid, not to distance himself from both Donald Trump and the QAnon movement, when it becomes a major political liability to be associated with both. Especially given that QAnon is pretty much unknown in Australia. What I know about QAnon is from what is being reported in the American media.
Anyway, Labor could attack the Morrison government for being associated with right-wing crazies. However, it needs to be combined with unequivocal stances on the issues of Climate Change, Civil Liberties, Queer Rights and Gender equality. That sort of campaign would attract a lot of small ‘l’ Liberal voters who are concentrated in the middle-class suburbs of the major cities. Because if these people knew about what Scott Morrison and many in the government are, they will be shocked and disgusted. In the last Victorian state election these sort of voters swung heavily to Labor.
The only way out for Trump is to have SCOTUS rule that Congressional Oversight is not in the Constitution.
That’s before you get to Impeachment. It’s not going to happen. This is becoming apparent. As is his removal meaning no pardon for Mannafort or any of the others.
The dam has broken for good reason.
With McConnell having backed the trial which will be run by the Chief Justice in televised hearings I know Trump is gone.
The evidence already public makes that clear. My only question is will it be President Pence or President Pelosi?
A revealing 24 hours for the GOP and the ‘rule of law’
It’s hardly breaking news that President Trump has an uneasy relationship with the rule of law
What hasn’t been chewed over quite as thoroughly is how much this attitude has infected those around him — many of them in the Republican Party, which prides itself as the party of the rule of law.
And the past 24 hours have been full of activity on that front.
And as Trump’s standing as president become more embattled, it looks as though the “rule of law” party is going to continue making arguments about why Trump holds a unique place in relation to that law — and why perhaps it’s worth breaking the rules on his behalf.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/23/banner-hours-gop-rule-law/
Tristo
I think it’s stupid that Morrison hasn’t already done so.
@guytaur
Morrison believes that the Australian media will not investigate too deeply into his links with the QAnon movement. Also, Morrison can always say if seriously questioned, that he was unaware that his friend is part of the QAnon movement.
Respect for other people, respect for their belongings, all going down the gurgler. This was also a theme on The Drum last night wrt inappropriate touching.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-23/one-nation-mp-guests-interfere-with-parliament-desks/11631180
guytaur @ #923 Thursday, October 24th, 2019 – 11:22 am
It’ll be President Not Donald Trump. That’s enough until 2020, at least.
This sort of deception seems par for the course for the little Hunt.
Tristo
He is wrong.
The extreme right wing is in trouble in the US.
Their best hope is the judge stacking. However introduce term limits and rotating panels between the courts and that stranglehold fast disappears.
With Nixon style polling Trump’s base can’t win. Pence doesn’t have Trump demagogue abilities if he survives.
That’s ignoring the Guardian already has reported on the Morrison Qanon connection. Politics is about to do a sea change and the right wing desperation will see a fast not slow change as a result.
Chile is an example. Public transport fares has triggered riots demanding changes to the Constitution that has inbuilt neoliberal economic inequality built in.
People want monopoly government serves accountable to the people. Not monopoly services accountable to shareholders.
ar
I agree. Just from what has publicly been released Pence may not survive either. After him it’s Speaker Pelosi in line of succession
@guytaur
I agree with your assessments, however the Morrison government has the control of law enforcement agencies and media support, Trump can only dream of. Plus the government faces an opposition which has been pretty lack luster in my opinion lately.
That control over law enforcement will result in even more authoritarian measures being introduced and the government will use excuse to justify introducing them. As we speak the government could get through legislation designed to suppress unions, with the support of Jackie Lambie.
The photo I saw of the Republicans invading the SCIF had one person that looked very like Barnaby – surely there could not be another??
Tristo
Well today that’s changed. Labor has done with the Australian ID database what it should have done with metadata.
That gave LNP members the courage to oppose Dutton too.
Our media is going to change because the Trump fallout will include Fox and FaceBook.
Already the Buttigieg campaign is damaged because of Facebook backing him.
By the time of our next election Social media tech companies will be fighting actual regulation to beak them up. That means Facebook will have to divest Instagram and WhatsApp for starters.
There will be more diverse democratic communication as Murdoch falls.
That antitrust idea of breaking up powerful media ownership will hit big here too.
I just don’t see the GOP winning and the Democrats have gone that far left with the support needed to win the General election. Trump has ensured it.
I see Labor’s response being human rights. Rights to assemble. Right to strike. Right to free speech. Whistleblower protection. Government accountable to the people.
That’s how much the political landscape is changing. Times moving so fast that an unknown businessman has put UBI vs a Federal Job Guarantee on the election campaign as an issue in the US election.
It’s going to be a very different political landscape at our next Federal election as a result
phoenixRED
Have you seen this? 🙂
https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2019/oct/23/president-supervillain-behind-the-alarmingly-accurate-trump-marvel-mashup
Don’t believe any figures on anything!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/24/government-underreported-sick-and-disabled-people-on-newstart-by-80000?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Trump’s Legal Team Is Now Openly Acknowledging That He Is Committing Crimes
It’s not just Democrats in the House of Representatives who are arguing – based on a mountain of evidence – that Donald Trump has committed high crimes and misdemeanors that warrant an impeachment inquiry and possible removal from office.
As Rachel Maddow pointed out on her program on Wednesday, even Trump’s legal team appears to be acknowledging that, yes, their client is actively committing crimes.
Instead of denying criminal wrongdoing on the part of the president, they are attacking and obstructing the process or simply arguing that Trump cannot be charged or investigated while in office – regardless of how severe the crime is.
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/10/23/trump-legal-team-acknowledging-his-crimes.html
Cat and mouse in the UK
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/23/jeremy-corbyn-urged-by-mps-to-resist-calls-for-election
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/16/environment-department-illegally-withholding-thousands-of-foi-pages
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/essex-lorry-deaths-thurrock-grays-ireland-bulgaria-container-police-a9168146.html
The asylum-seeker issue should be understood within the context of widespread and organised human trafficking – trafficking of persons, of their rights, their labour, their bodies, their identities, their lives.
People have been commoditised. In Australia, having been first commoditised asylum seekers are for intents basically without personality at all. They are political hostages, held for illustration and propaganda purposes. In this respect, the Australian Government is a political beneficiary of the trade in humans. Because the cargo has been seized and trafficked into captivity, the Australian Government is a co-trafficker. They are a party to the commodification of humans.
“Doctor Who” takes on the “Nestene Consciousness”.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/23/mark-zuckerberg-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-facebook-cambridge-analytica
See also:
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1187098428737753091
https://www.c-span.org/video/?465293-1/facebook-founder-mark-zuckerberg-testifies-house-financial-services-committee
The Greens, of course, were participating brokers and underwriters in the commodification of humans in Australia. They continue to earn commissions on their investment.
People want monopoly government serves accountable to the people. Not monopoly services accountable to shareholders.
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Guytaur
It is you that wants that. A mistake many on the left make is to assume that the public agrees with them on government ownership and most Australians are shareholders, also in many cases former government enterprises are not really privatised in the sense they remain fully answerable to the government.
Countries like Chile are entirely different societies with vastly different political cultures than developed countries like Australia. And when it comes to the American right, it will be fine post-Trump because unlike the Australian reactionary “try hard” right, the Americans have a well established conservative movement supported by a range of conservative think tanks and research institutes.
If anything we might see a return to a more traditional conservative movement in countries like Australia and the U.K but the reactionaries will remain a political factor as long as there is a cultural war to fight.
RI
Your sense in your posts again disappears as soon as you mention the Greens.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-23/john-setka-expelled-from-labor-after-withdrawing-his-legal-bid/11631808
That’s a big statement from John Setka.
One can only deduce from that that the CFMMEU/Labor relationship is untenable while Setka remains as a prominent CFMMEU leader.
Mexican
I was talking about Chile.
However we know from polling that you are wrong about Australian voters. The problem is lack of government services in regional areas that just don’t have the population to sustain the most visible forms of that.
The exception being healthcare.
It’s one of the disadvantages of giving more weight to the rural voters over the majority of us in the cities. They get an outsized say on an area they don’t have impact them much.
It’s political reality but don’t mistake that for being the majority.
You are also wrong about the US.
The Democrats are going to win. They have moved left. There is no centre in US politics. It moved too far right.
Edit. Last CNN New York Times Debate spent more time debating UBI or Federal Job Guarantee than Climate Change.
Tristo @ #932 Thursday, October 24th, 2019 – 1:09 pm
Plus the government faces an opposition which has been pretty lack luster in my opinion lately.
Jeez! Has Tristo been supping Kool Aid with mundo lately!?!
An Opposition doesn’t have to be fire and brimstone to kick goals, fcs!
I would have thought getting John Setka to admit defeat and resign voluntarily from the ALP yesterday was a pretty effective performance from the Albanese Opposition.
* Getting the government talking points, ditto.
Fair dinkum, some of these anti Labor (for that’s what they are at the end of the day), Hanrahans will only be suitably impressed when Anthony Albanese walks on water! And then it’ll be too fast or too slow! 🙄
Guytaur
If Australians were really that keen for government to own and operate all services then they would vote differently, they will sometimes reject certain privatization plans such as we saw in Queensland a few elections ago. Australians seem to be more concerned with the delivery of services than who owns that service.
Mexican
There you go with your bias. Monopoly services are not all services.
You are one of the ones that’s going to be blindsided by the fast changing political landscape.
Edit: Also Labor NSW is opposing privatisation of bus services in Sydney.