More Senate entrails examined

The lower house count concludes with the Coalition on 51.53% of the national two-party preferred; the button is pressed on the Senate for Queensland, Western Australia and South Australia; only the Victorian Senate result remains.

The last two-party preferred count for the lower house is complete, leaving the Coalition with a national two-party preferred total of 51.53%, which is exactly the result that was projected by the opinion polls, albeit for the wrong party. The Australian Electoral Commission website continues to record that 288 declaration vote envelopes remain unprocessed, of which 234 are in the seat of Kingsford Smith, but I suspect that may just reflect tardiness in keeping these numbers updated.

We should also have the last Senate result finalised this morning, that being in Victoria, where a result of three Liberal, two Labor and one Greens is assured. Counts were finalised yesterday in Queensland, Western Australia and South Australia. To complement previous efforts for New South Wales and Tasmania, I offer the following displays showing how the preference distributions proceeded. In each case they record where the votes stood after the election of candidates with full quotas at the start of the count, and also in the final stages, where three seats were decided in Queensland, and two were decided in Western Australia and South Australia.

First up, Queensland, where the result was three for the Coalition (Paul Scarr, Susan McDonald and Gerard Rennick, all newcomers) and one apiece for Labor (Nita Green, also a newcomer), One Nation (Malcolm Roberts, returning after falling foul of Section 44 and having his seat pass to Fraser Anning, whose own party proved uncompetitive) and the Greens (Larissa Waters, another Section 44 casualty who had already returned to the Senate after her successor, Andrew Bartlett, agreed to make way for her ahead of the election). Queensland was the one state where the result was not clear long in advance, although in the final analysis it wasn’t really all that close. The Coalition won two seats straight off the bat and Labor one, leaving Green, Roberts, Waters and Labor’s second candidate, Chris Ketter, in the mix for the last three. There never seemed much doubt that the fourth seat would go to One Nation and the fifth to the Coalition, but Labor might have hoped the dual miracle of a strong performance in late counting and unexpectedly strong preference flows could have given Ketter the last seat at the expense of Waters. In fact though, Ketter trailed Waters by 52,767 votes (1.8%) at the start of proceedings, which widened to 78,681 (2.7%) by the end, with Waters doing predictably well out of preferences from Animal Justice and Help End Marijuana Prohibition – although she didn’t quite make it to a quota.

Now to Western Australia, which has returned three Liberals (incumbents Linda Reynolds and Slade Brockman, and newcomer Matt O’Sullivan), two Labor (incumbents Patrick Dodson and Louise Pratt) and one Greens (incumbent Jordon Steele-John). Reynolds, Brockman and Dodson were elected off the bat; O’Sullivan got most of the way there when the 1.4% Nationals vote was distributed; and Pratt and Steele-John were always going to get there late in the count ahead of One Nation incumbent Peter Georgiou.

South Australia produced the same result as Western Australia (and indeed New South Wales and Victoria, if the Coalition is considered collectively), the three Liberals being incumbents Anne Ruston and David Fawcett, and newcomer Alex Antic; Labor returning incumbent Alex Gallacher and newcomer Marielle Smith; and the Sarah Hanson-Young retaining her seat for the Greens. The top two on the Liberal and Labor tickets were elected off the bat; Hanson-Young made a quota after the third Labor candidate and the Help End Marijuana Prohibition candidate dropped out; and Antic stayed well clear of One Nation throughout to take the last seat.

The overall picture in the Senate was summarised here a few weeks ago – all that’s different now is that the “likely” qualification can be removed from Queensland.

Update: Victorian Senate result

The Victorian result was finalised this morning (Wednesday), producing the anticipated result of three seats for the Liberals (incumbents James Patterson and Jane Hume, and newcomer David Van), two for Labor (Raff Ciccone, who came to the Senate after filling a casual vacancy in March, and Jess Walsh, a newcomer) and one for the Greens (incumbent Janet Rice). The chart below follows the same format as those above, and shows that this was not a close run thing. The Coalition and Labor both had two quotas on ticket votes, leaving two seats to be determined through the preference distribution. Labor’s third candidate, incumbent Gavin Marshall, was never in contention, and his exclusion pushed the Greens to a quota with Van, Derryn Hinch and One Nation still in the count. One Nation then were excluded, leaving David Van well ahead of Hinch to take the final seat, without making it to a quota.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Another conservative Senate with in-built dysfunction on the left-of-centre. The Right will do pretty much as they please. Things will get worse.

  2. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/18/arctic-permafrost-canada-science-climate-crisis

    Permafrost at outposts in the Canadian Arctic is thawing 70 years earlier than predicted, an expedition has discovered, in the latest sign that the global climate crisis is accelerating even faster than scientists had feared.

    A team from the University of Alaska Fairbanks said they were astounded by how quickly a succession of unusually hot summers had destabilised the upper layers of giant subterranean ice blocks that had been frozen solid for millennia.

    “What we saw was amazing,” Vladimir Romanovsky, a professor of geophysics at the university, told Reuters. “It’s an indication that the climate is now warmer than at any time in the last 5,000 or more years.“

    Given the electoral success – the recurring electoral success – of the Liberals and their allies, clones and satellites; given the dysfunction in left-of-centre politics, there is no chance whatsoever that Australia will make a contribution to arresting the process of climate change. None.

    We are fucked.

  3. Hey briefly, you became a bore when you were relentlessly positive.

    Now you’re relentlessly negative, it’s even worse.
    I hope that you’re happy that you’re driving people away from this site.

  4. adrian says:
    Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 7:02 am
    As you’ve said, briefly. Over and over again.

    I’m going to keep on saying it until we change. Until we change ourselves we cannot change the country.

    I believe in action. I am active. I hope to cajole others into effective action too. Politics is a team game. We need more people to get into the game. We need many, many more. Hardly anyone wants to be in it.

  5. adrian….I don’t care if you’re bored. Not my problem. I care about change. I’m not here to amuse you. Frankly, you’ve seldom ever posted anything worth reading. I don’t know why you bother. But feel free. I don’t expect to be entertained by you.

  6. briefly

    Who is this “we”?
    Lecturing PB-ers (Hectoring, rather) is unlikely to start an active movement. We are mostly keyboard warriors or observers.

  7. Former general rips ‘impulsive, badly-educated president tweeting out foreign policy’

    President Donald Trump was slammed on MSNBC by a former four-star Army general Barry McCaffrey for his foreign policy blunders.

    “Probably the biggest problem is we have no structure in government left,” he explained. “The Pentagon and Homeland Security office, the White House, except for Ivanka [Trump] and Jared [Kushner] and [John] Bolton, it’s hard to know whose voice is being listened to, with an impulsive, badly-educated president tweeting out U.S. foreign policy,” he explained.

    “The second problem is we lost most of our allies,” he continued. “They have no idea what we’re doing, they get publicly insulted. Even people like the Saudis and the gulf coast states and the president said in a Time magazine interview, look, we’re not worried about oil. He sort of hung out to dry, the Japanese, the gulf coast states, Europeans, who do worry about oil.”

    “There’s no coherence what we’re doing, we’re operating on a whim,” McCaffrey said.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/former-general-rips-impulsive-badly-educated-president-tweeting-out-foreign-policy/

  8. lizzie says:
    Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 7:12 am
    briefly

    Who is this “we”?
    Lecturing PB-ers (Hectoring, rather) is unlikely to start an active movement. We are mostly keyboard warriors or observers.

    I don’t hector the bludgers, as a rule. I make clear statements about politics, polling, the numbers, the campaigns. My take is perhaps unconventional but it’s also correct. I’m trying to persuade readers to see things differently. This is necessary. Unless we change we’re ruined. I reckon I’ve changed the minds of some and I’m going to keep trying. There are many passers-by and lurkers. I think I might get their attention.

  9. Well, HEMP did remarkably well, considering. Maybe next election they might get one candidate over the line somewhere. I live in hope. 🙂

  10. Matildas beat Jamaica 4-1 and Sam Kerr all 4 goals It’s all over in Valenciennes as well. Brazil get the win, but end Group C in third on goals scored. Italy proceed in first and the Matildas advance in second place.

  11. Briefly, that is a completely delusional account of what you do here, and I’m quite certain that Adrian is right when he says you’re driving people away from the blog. I happen to think you owe it to me to factor that in a whole lot more than you do.

  12. Long interview :

    Trump was ready to ‘blow up everything’: Biographer Michael Wolff on why Mueller didn’t indict

    Donald Trump, who is the president of the United States, is a madman. Donald Trump is a psychopath. This is something to be afraid of. What the American people and the world did not realize about Donald Trump is the nature of this kind of madness. It is so egocentric, attention deficit-like and self-centered.

    Donald Trump is wholly aberrant. He is a person the likes of which we have never seen before in America. Just imagine a man who for 45 years has lived a totally external life. No private life, no family, no intimacy for many years. And he doesn’t care about it. I used to see Trump in New York, every night, he would be out somewhere like a shark, moving through these gatherings. He was looking for acknowledgement and attention. In the Woody Allen movie “Celebrity,” Trump plays himself. In the movie he is a soulless celebrity. There’s no mystery here about who and what Donald Trump is.

    MUCH MORE : https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/trump-was-ready-to-blow-up-everything-biographer-michael-wolff-on-why-mueller-didnt-indict/

  13. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    Ross Gittins wonders how far the NSW economy will fall.
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    Matt Wade says that it has hit a soft patch thanks to the housing downturn.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/nsw-economy-hits-soft-patch-thanks-to-housing-downturn-20190618-p51yuc.html
    Well it seems the AFP briefed Malcolm Turnbull on George Christensen’s overseas travel six times.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/afp-briefed-malcolm-turnbull-on-george-christensen-s-overseas-travel-six-times-20190618-p51yzs.html
    Fergus Hunter reports that Christian Porter is “seriously disinclined” to approve the prosecution of journalists.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/attorney-general-seriously-disinclined-to-approve-prosecution-of-journalists-20190617-p51ykr.html
    Katie Burgess reports that John Hewson says the Coalition’s $158 billion tax cut plan will be unaffordable as the Australian economy weakens and that he also described Prime Minister Scott Morrison as an ad man with a “pocketful of slogans” but little detail, who needed to “establish credibility” as a leader through serious reform.
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    Michaela Whitbourn explores just how free the press really is in Australia.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/how-free-is-the-press-in-australia-20190612-p51wvi.html
    Journalism researcher Dennis Muller writes about the four laws that need urgent reform to protect both national security and press freedom.
    https://theconversation.com/four-laws-that-need-urgent-reform-to-protect-both-national-security-and-press-freedom-118994
    Emma Koehn tells us that employers will face a crackdown on cash-in-hand payments from July 1, with new measures to stop businesses from claiming tax deductions for cash payments even though they’re ignoring tax withholding rules.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/small-business/cash-in-hand-crackdown-loophole-closed-to-stop-deductions-20190618-p51yqs.html
    Sarah Martin reveals that the Coalition awarded almost $1.4bn in grants through its regional development program in the lead-up to the election, with about half of the funding not subject to a competitive tender process. Who would have thought?
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/19/coalition-awarded-14bn-in-grants-in-election-lead-up-half-without-an-open-tender-process
    Federal Labor is not ruling out sticking to its pre-election policy of repealing the long-term, stage three tax cuts that have already been legislated and are due to start on July 1, 2024.
    https://www.outline.com/paHaqs
    Ross Gittins explains how New Zealand has introduced the concept of wellbeing into its budget considerations.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/those-kiwis-they-ve-gone-one-up-and-brought-happiness-to-the-budget-20190618-p51ytb.html
    The CBA has predicted interest rates will fall below 1 per cent by November, as the Reserve Bank looks to jolt the economy out of a stupor while Parliament argues over tax cuts.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/cba-tips-rates-to-hit-0-75-percent-within-months-as-rba-signals-further-cuts-20190618-p51ywo.html
    David Crowe reports that immigration officials have been told to open the door to more refugees from South America in a formal directive that is likely to change the make-up of the annual 18,750 humanitarian intake from next month.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-shifts-on-refugees-to-act-on-latest-humanitarian-crisis-20190618-p51yx8.html
    Scientists are shocked by the Arctic permafrost thawing 70 years sooner than predicted!
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/18/arctic-permafrost-canada-science-climate-crisis
    The NSW government expects to bring in $810 million in fines next financial year, an increase of 25 per cent and more than the budget surplus. Always easy money!
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/nsw-government-to-reap-extra-160-million-in-fine-revenue-20190618-p51yzq.html
    Elizabeth Knight explains how Coles has surrendered resistance to the forces of the digital era.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/coles-surrenders-resistance-to-the-forces-of-the-digital-era-20190618-p51yuv.html
    The plot thickens as the AFR reveals that a former immigration official is now working for Paladin.
    https://www.outline.com/UzewSV
    Dana McCauley reports that university-educated preschool teachers who missed out on Labor’s promised taxpayer-funded pay rises are pushing ahead with a demand for large pay increases in the Fair Work Commission, with the Independent Education Union seeking salaries of up to $101,767.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/preschool-teachers-demand-100-000-salaries-in-fair-work-commission-20190618-p51yx0.html
    Greg Baum ridicules the AFL and its hamfisted effort on crowd behaviour.
    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/safe-and-sound-afl-backs-itself-into-a-corner-20190618-p51z05.html
    Katherine The writes that it’s time to bring all sides together in the interests of our omnivorous community, our farmers and our Aussie animals. We need to banish the cruelty, shine a light on the welfare dilemmas and evolve farmer engagement with consumers.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/in-the-interests-of-omnivores-farmers-and-activists-need-to-talk-20190617-p51yo4.html
    Sam maiden says that Corey Bernardi is open to rejoining the Liberal Party.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/06/18/bernardi-rejoining-liberals/
    CSIRO’s Australian National Outlook compares two versions of the nation in 2060 – a scenario where economic, social and environmental challenges are tackled head on, and another where they are not.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6224911/technology-could-slash-power-bills-in-half-csiro/?cs=14350
    How Australia’s power grid is vulnerable to cyber attacks.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2019/06/18/power-grid-cyber-attack/
    Something is not quite right in the John Setka matter, writes Frank O’Shea.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/cfmeu-boss-john-setka-in-the-firing-line,12817
    Having a psychologist watching, listening and taking notes during a board meeting could become the norm in corporate Australia if ASIC’s latest experiment works.
    https://www.outline.com/NDFDuS
    An explosive study into the poor quality of apartment buildings has found that new blocks are “plagued with defects”, with at least one found in 85 per cent of all buildings analysed.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/property/2019/06/19/high-rise-tower-building-defects/
    The Cayman Islands is the destination du jour for Australian hospitals and water profits but far more is bound for Bermuda. Michael West on tax haven risk for AMP Life policyholders and their $100 billion in assets.
    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/can-apra-defend-amp-life-against-the-spawn-of-the-devil/
    Kristina Keneally writes about the long lasting effects of stillbirth on a family.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/twenty-years-is-too-long-to-do-so-little-about-the-death-of-six-babies-a-day-20190617-p51yh3.html
    Chris Uhlmann says that Australia has turned a blind eye to a deeply offensive threat from China.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/australia-turned-blind-eye-to-deeply-offensive-threat-from-china-20190618-p51ytn.html
    And Tarric Brooker discusses PM Scott Morrison’s meek response to the pro-democracy demonstrations in Hong Kong.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/morrisons-problem-with-china,12815
    Simon Tisdall writes that the Iran crisis was created in Washington. He says the US must be talked down.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/18/iran-crisis-trump-middle-east-war
    The ABC has become the unwitting target of one of idiot Trump’s famous Twitter tantrums, with the US president mistakenly labelling the Australian public broadcaster “fake news”.
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/18/trump-brands-australias-abc-fake-news-in-case-of-mistaken-twitter-identity
    A former head of UEFA gets today’s nomination for “Arsehole of the Week” for his effort in awarding the 2022 World Cup to Qatar.
    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/i-will-be-back-platini-arrested-as-part-of-2022-world-cup-investigation-20190618-p51z0n.html

    Cartoon Corner

    Alan Moir with Boris and his followers.

    Simon Letch with NZ’s attention to wellbeing.

    Also from Andrew Dyson.

    From Matt Golding.




    Fiona Katauskas and the Adani approval.

    John Shakespeare and Albo’s Setka problem.

    Zanetti and the State of Origin.

    From Glen Le Lievre.

    Three from Sean Leahy.



    Jon Kudelka and the final Senate result.
    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b54324c747bd0e78ed7a69c889d880c6?width=1024

    From the US






  14. Palmer Report‏Verified account @PalmerReport

    Donald Trump currently has:

    – No Secretary of Defense

    – No Homeland Security Director

    – No Secret Service Director

    – No ICE Director

    – No Air Force Secretary

    – No FEMA Director

    – No UN Ambassador

    – No Communications Director

    – No White House Chief of Staff

    – No clue

  15. There was mention the other day about under employment. The opposite of this – over employment – is rarely mentioned.

    A friend of mine works as a cleaner at a local motel. She’s just quit.

    She was nominally employed part time but was regularly working 7 days a week. (Recently her employer asked her if she’d ‘like a day off this week’). It was killing her. She couldn’t get her employer to listen, so – despite the fact she still had a mortgage to pay – she’s simply resigned.

    Her employer was in tears when she did this, and have made several offers to her (including ‘two weekends off a month’ — for a part timer!) in an effort to have her change her mind.

    There’s plenty of work there for another employee, and that other employee would have taken the pressure off my friend.

    Over employment is not just a problem for high powered professionals!

  16. zoomster,
    My son is rostered to work 24 out of the next 24 hours starting from 5PM today!

    From 5PM to 11PM he needs to be awake and working with the 2 severely disabled clients he looks after. Another employee works with him from 5PM but goes home at midnight, when someone else turns up to work from midnight to 8AM. My son is allowed to go to bed at 11PM but must be on call if there is a problem. Then tomorrow from 8AM is on duty until 5PM because they are moving house and he is needed to help with that! He also told me that some of the employees can be called in for extra shifts when others are sick and end up working 90+ hours per week!

    Plus they have to do study for their Cert 4 in Disability Care as well. 😯

  17. …I think we’re having a lot of the wrong conversations about work, probably because the conversations are (necessarily, to some extent) driven by well educated middle class professionals.

    We’ve swallowed the Productivity Commission koolaid (that it’s imperative that – regardless of the unemployment rate – everyone who is capable of work should be working) and, as a result, are (possibly) misreading what people want.

    For example, I’m not sure that offering families free childcare is addressing the problem they want addressed. Are couples with small children working because they want to – or would they rather spend more time with their small children, but are forced to go to work to pay the bills?

    If it’s the second, then offering them free childcare is sort of rubbing salt into the wounds.

    An aim to have everyone who ‘wants to work’ (and there’s an assumption in that phrase about what’s driving the ‘want’) in employment may thus be misguided, particularly if there aren’t enough jobs to go around anyway. Looking at ways of taking the pressure off families and encouraging parents (and I’d like a solution which encouraged men to do this) to spend time at home when their children are young (which has huge advantages when it comes to future educational performance) might solve the actual problem.

  18. Donald Trump, who is the president of the United States, is a madman. Donald Trump is a psychopath. This is something to be afraid of. What the American people and the world did not realize about Donald Trump is the nature of this kind of madness. It is so egocentric, attention deficit-like and self-centered.

    Not to mention Donald Trump seems to have the beginnings of Temporo Frontal Dementia.

    Though what flashed through my mind when I read this was the connection to that other infamous demonic authoritarian madman, Adolf Hitler. What is it in the genetic makeup of certain among the Germanic people (and Donald Trump should rightly be called Donald Drumpf), that allows them to have such callous disregard for human life?

    Of course, we can apply the same reasoning to Peter Dutton and Scott Morrison here in Australia but they aren’t in the same ball park as the American leader.

  19. Victoria @ #26 Wednesday, June 19th, 2019 – 7:52 am

    PhoenixRed

    I would counter and say that Trump has a clue.
    Not having those positions filled, is a feature not a bug.

    Yes, it’s so they don’t have to go through the Confirmation process in Congress. So Trump gets to appoint whoever he wants, however unfit for the job they may be.

  20. An aim to have everyone who ‘wants to work’ (and there’s an assumption in that phrase about what’s driving the ‘want’) in employment may thus be misguided, particularly if there aren’t enough jobs to go around anyway. Looking at ways of taking the pressure off families and encouraging parents (and I’d like a solution which encouraged men to do this) to spend time at home when their children are young (which has huge advantages when it comes to future educational performance) might solve the actual problem.

    The problem with this theory is that the sociopaths at the top of the business tree who have gotten there by denying their own families their time, look down on employees who may want to work that way and it affects their career advancement. There have been numerous studies that have proven it.

  21. C@t

    Yep. Trump knows what he is doing. He is a shameless, treasonous piece of excrement.
    But of course he has a supporting cast of players that are the main game. He is just their front man.

  22. Julia GillardVerified account@JuliaGillard
    14h14 hours ago
    Thanks to Kate, who passed this note to me on a flight recently. I didn’t get to meet you to thank you, but I really appreciate your generous words.

    :large

  23. Victoria @ #30 Wednesday, June 19th, 2019 – 7:58 am

    C@t

    Yep. Trump knows what he is doing. He is a shameless, treasonous piece of excrement.
    But of course he has a supporting cast of players that are the main game. He is just their front man.

    Yeah that Mick Mulvaney is a piece of work. He’s currently wrecking the Budget negotiations between the saner of the Repugs and the Democrats. He basically wants to rip the guts out of the American welfare system, being a rabid Tea Partier and former leader of the House Freedom Caucus. So it looks like they are heading for another protracted government shutdown.

  24. zoomster @ #31 Wednesday, June 19th, 2019 – 7:59 am

    C@

    Yes, but I’m not sure that’s a reason not to examine the problem!

    I don’t know. I think it’s been examined enough but until the people that count want to do something about changing it we are just going to keep on going the way we are. I’m sure there will be more studies done but we already know that Australians are some of the most overworked and longest working workers in the world and that that is exploited to the max by unscrupulous employers. With the Coalition in power again federally I don’t see it changing in the foreseeable future.

  25. briefly:

    [‘I’m going to keep on saying it until we change.’]

    Only HM and legal practitioners are entitled to use the plural pronoun “we”. And I agree with others that you’ve become repetitive, tedious. Before the election, many of your posts were interesting, thoughtful; that’s not the case now. Please get with the vibe by changing tack.

  26. Ante Milicic should be removing the changeroom door from its hinges (Des Haesler style) after that performance.

    Sam Kerr can only do so much to offset poor defence and a lumbering right side attack.

  27. zoomster

    We’ve swallowed the Productivity Commission koolaid (that it’s imperative that – regardless of the unemployment rate – everyone who is capable of work should be working) and, as a result, are (possibly) misreading what people want.

    …Looking at ways of taking the pressure off families and encouraging parents (and I’d like a solution which encouraged men to do this) to spend time at home when their children are young (which has huge advantages when it comes to future educational performance) might solve the actual problem.

    You’re discussing something which has been in my mind for some time. There have been a number of articles about the pressure on ‘modern families’, and especially on ‘working mothers’, who suffer from burnout. Somewhere the balance has been lost and there is incredible pressure to conform to rules just to receive basic payments.

    If you’ll forgive a little reminiscence, I remember a time when family support (I’ve forgotten the name) was enough to give a stay at home wife a little independence, with no strings.

  28. lizzie

    ‘If you’ll forgive a little reminiscence, I remember a time when family support (I’ve forgotten the name) was enough to give a stay at home wife a little independence, with no strings.’

    Exactly. It was less expensive than paying them unemployment benefits, too.

    I can’t see why a scheme like this couldn’t be reintroduced. It could be restricted to families with children under 5, and could also be geared to encourage the male partner to take time out, too.

  29. …I think Labor’s child care proposal was another which created haves and have nots – someone who chooses to stay at home to look after their children should receive the same kinds of benefits as those who do not. After all, you’re a childcare provider!

  30. lizzie @ #42 Wednesday, June 19th, 2019 – 8:22 am

    C@t and zoomster

    Maybe women just don’t have the energy or time to discuss the problem!

    No they don’t. Not the young mums I know. Well, the ones that aren’t Yummy Mummies married to wealthy top flight executives who can afford to have their wives stay at home and be Instagram Influencers!

  31. Fess

    It would have put a smile on Julia Gillard to read such a lovely sentiment.

    Occasionally I think back to when she was PM, and I get a sick feeling in my stomach recounting the terrible treatment she received throughout her tenure. I was relieved for her when she departed parliament.

  32. Thanks BK, a somewhat confusing round of cartoons this morning. I’m not getting the NZ kiwi ones. And who is the guy with Josh in the Golding cartoon?

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