12.06am. “We’re bringing back Macquarie”, says Scott Morrison in his victory speech. Not so fast — Labor have just hit the lead there. And not because of that Katoomba pre-poll booth I mentioned a few times earlier, which barely swung on two-party preferred.
11.13pm. Kerryn Phelps has her nose in front in Wentworth, but I would note that the Rose Bay pre-poll hasn’t reported yet. It wasn’t a booth at the 2016 election but was at the by-election, and when it came in, there was a pretty handy shift to the Liberals. Also outstanding is the Waverley pre-poll booth, which does a very great deal of business.
10.59pm. The Liberals have edged into the lead in Boothby, after Glenelg pre-poll swung 4% their way (though Brighton went 3% the other way).
10.57pm. Labor just hanging on in Cowan, well out of contention now in Swan, and every other WA seat they hoped to win.
10.56pm. I was suggesting Labor wasn’t home in Moreton before. Probably safe now. But Mansfield pre-poll swung 14.4% to Coalition, while Rocklea and Wooldridge didn’t move.
10.39pm. With 45.8% counted, South Australia looks like three Liberal, two Labor and one Greens. Centre Alliance performing weakly at 2.8%.
10.38pm. Oh, and by the way — Clive Palmer is on 3.4% in Queensland and is being flogged by One Nation.
10.38pm. Jacqui Lambie is on 8.7% in Tasmania and should be back. The result should go two Liberal, two Labor and one Greens. 58.2% counted.
10.35pm. One Nation are on over 10% in Queensland, where I’m inclined to think the most likely result is Coalition two, Labor two, Greens one, One Nation one, with 33.4% counted.
10.34pm. Looks like three Coalition, two Labor and one Greens in Victoria too, with 32.4% counted. But maybe Labor could take a third seat off the Coalition, if their position improves as more metropolitan votes come in. No one else is cracking 3%.
10.32pm. Some early indications from the Senate. Starting in New South Wales, with 35.6% counted. One Nation aren’t doing great at 5%; United Australia Party tanking on 1.4%. Looks like three Coalition, two Labor and one Greens.
10.30pm. Labor leads 1.3% in Lilley, which Nine projects down to 0.5%. One pre-poll in swung slightly more heavily than the 5.2% norm; two more are still to come.
10.28pm. Labor leads 2.3% in Blair, which the Nine computer projects down to 0.9%. One pre-poll booth, Ipswich South, swung typically; two more are outstanding.
10.21pm. That Katoomba pre-poll booth in Macquarie which Anthony Albanese said had swung heavily to Labor still isn’t in the system. Labor has a raw lead of 1.3% lead there, but absent pre-polls (Katoomba and five others), the Nine computer projects absolutely nothing in it.
10.19pm. A 9.8% swing has reduced Labor to a 4.9% lead in Hunter, projected to be 2.7%. Should be okay for them, but the one pre-poll booth swung 14.1%, and there are eight still to come, whih are worth keeping at least half an eye on.
10.16pm. Labor leads 2.8% in Eden-Monaro, Nine computer projects 1.3%, 1.6% swing to Liberal. There are eight pre-polls, none of which have reported.
10.14pm. Labor leads by 2.0% in Dobell after a 3.5% swing to Liberal, with the Nine computer projecting 1.4%. Two pre-polls, Tuggerah and The Entrance, have swung normally. Pre-polls yet to come from Charmhaven and Gosford.
10.10pm. Independent Helen Haines holds what the Nine booth projects as a 1.8% lead in Indi: two pre-polls in, Wodonga, which swung heavily to Liberal, and Mansfield, which swung only very slightly (by swing here, I mean compared with Cathy McGowan’s margin of 4.8%). Wangaratta pre-poll still to come. Very much too close to call.
10.04pm. The Nine computer now projects a tiny lead for the Liberals in Chisholm. Four pre-polls still to come may decide the result. The one pre-poll that has reported, Blackburn North, swung 1.6% to Labor.
10.02pm. The yo-yo of Swan has swung back in favour of the Liberals, while Labor maintains only a fragile lead in Cowan. Still nothing in it in Boothby, Labor very slightly ahead.
9.44pm. Labor has very tenuous leads in Blair and Lilley, so there’s certainly paths to a Coalition majority. Other seats the Liberals wouldn’t be giving up on include Corangamite, Eden-Monaro and Moreton.
9.42pm. Now it’s getting very close in Chisholm. Other seats the Liberals wouldn’t be giving up on yet include Corangamite, Dobell, Eden-Monaro,
9.39pm. Spoke too soon about Swan — close again now.
9.34pm. Particularly remarkable results from scanning around include double-digit two-party swings against Labor in Hunter, Capricornia and, would you believe it, Dawson. The latter two suggest a very strong Adani effect.
9.30pm. Another blow for Labor with Swan now looking beyond their reach. However, they have moved ahead in Cowan, so it looks like status quo in WA.
9.21pm. Anthony Albanese just said on Nine that there is a big swing to Labor on the Katoomba pre-poll centre in Macquarie, which is not in the system yet. That should save Labor’s bacon there.
9.17pm. Very advanced stage of the count in Bass, with even the pre-polls in, and Labor look too far behind.
9.05pm. Both Labor-held Cowan and Liberal-held Swan are very close, but Liberals looking good in Hasluck, Pearce and Stirling. At best though, a net gain of one for Labor in WA.
8.54pm. And if all goes well for the Liberals in WA, the door widens a little on the prospect of a Coalition majority.
8.51pm. First results look encouraging for Christian Porter in Pearce. Ditto Stirling, but very few votes there. Some results in Cowan, looks close, but too early to be meaningful. First booth looks good for Liberal in Hasluck. Individually all too early to say, but collectively discouraging for the notion that WA might save the day for Labor.
8.48pm. Given pre-polls heavily favoured the Liberals at the Wentworth by-election, I would read the present lineball result as somewhat encouraging for the Liberals.
8.45pm. Haven’t said a thing about Wentworth — it looks very, very tight. A number of the independents failed to mark much of a mark, including Kevin Mack in Farrer and Rob Oakeshott in Cowper.
8.38pm. Labor looks okay in Solomon; the CLP leads on the raw vote in Lingiari, but the Nine computer projects them ahead, because these are mostly conservative booths from Katherine and such.
8.29pm. Another big picture overview. In New South Wales, Labor wins Gilmore but loses Lindsay; Tony Abbott loses Warringah. Labor-held Macquarie could go either way. Labor wins Chisholm, Corangamite and Dunkley. Tasmania: Labor loses Braddon and looking shaky in Bass. Queensland: Labor to lose Herbert and Longman, Leichhardt looking unlikely now. In South Australia, the potential Labor gain of Boothby is lineball. Talk that Labor is in danger in Lingiari, but the Nine computer projects them in the lead, and there’s nothing from Solomon yet. Nothing meaningful yet from Western Australia. My best guess remains that the Coalition will land just short of a majority, but the wild cards of WA and pre-polls remain in the deck.
8.20pm. By best guess is that the Coalition will land a few seats short of a majority, but again: nothing yet from WA, and the possibility it will play out differently on pre-polls. The likely cross bench: Adam Bandt, Zali Steggall, Bob Katter, Andrew Wilkie, Rebekha Sharkie … possibly Helen Haines, probably not Kerryn Phelps.
8.14pm. I’ve been doing real work for the last half hour, but the situation hasn’t fundamentally changed: a few gains for Labor in Victoria, maybe a net gain for the Coalition in New South Wales, Braddon and possibly Bass lost by Labor in Tasmania as well, and a net loss for Labor in Queensland. Boothby lineball though, and Labor praying for gains in Western Australia and a favourable dynamic on pre-polls.
7.48pm. Macquarie lineball, but looking better for Labor than earlier.
7.46pm. Also, the first results in Boothby are good for Labor.
7.45pm. Looking better for Labor now in Lilley though.
7.40pm. Labor should gain three in Victoria; but only Gilmore looks strong in NSW, they look like losing Lindsay, and they’re in trouble in Macquarie. In Queensland, the Nine computer has Labor behind in Blair, Herbert, and Longman, but it’s not calling any of them. However, they are running Warren Entsch close in Leichhardt.
7.33pm. I’m certainly not seeing any gains for Labor in Queensland, and they’re in trouble in Herbert, Longman and Lilley. But Tony Abbott is clearly gone in Warringah.
7.29pm. Looks close in Herbert, but Labor are struggling in Queensland in some surprising places: Lilley
7.26pm. Labor should win Chisholm, Dunkley and Corangamite, but the seats further down the pendulum in Victoria don’t appear to be swinging
7.23pm. Lineball in Macquarie as well.
7.22pm. Looking dicey for Labor in Lindsay as well.
7.21pm. Still nothing in it in Bass, Liberals looking like winning Braddon.
7.19pm. Early assessment: it’s going to be close. Labor far from assured of a majority.
7.18pm. But it’s looking good for Labor in Gilmore.
7.13pm. Early days, but I’m not seeing any great wave to Labor. They are struggling in the two northern Tasmanian seats, and only looking really good in Corangamite in Victoria. And it looks close early in Griffith, a seat they hold in Queensland.
7.12pm. Early indications are that it’s close in Chisholm – six booths in on primary, two on two-party (50 in total).
7.09pm. Labor have moved ahead on Nine’s projection in Bass, but remain behind in Braddon.
7.08pm. If nothing else, the news from Queensland is consistently looking good for the Coalition.
7.06pm. The swing to LNP in Bonner I noted earlier has come off, now looking status quo (LNP margin 3.4%).
7.05pm. Dreadful early numbers for Tony Abbott, who trails 40.3% to 32.5% on the raw primary vote with five booths out of 50 in.
7.02pm. The Nine computer sees a 3.9% swing to Labor in Corangamite, where there is no margin.
7.01pm. Related by Chris Uhlmann, Labor believes they have won Corangamite. But the overall picture in Queensland for the Coalition looks strong, as per the exit poll result.
7.00pm. Early numbers looking encouraging for Peter Dutton in Dickson — a swing approaching 5% in his favour off four booths.
6.58pm. Labor look to have the edge in Gilmore, with 13 booths out of 66 on the primary vote – Liberal down 17.4% of which 12.7% has gone to the Nationals, while Labor are down very slightly. Ex-Liberal independent Grant Schultz only on 5.3%.
6.56pm. Four booths in from Braddon, and Labor looks in trouble. One booth in from Bass, swing looks almost exactly equal to the Labor margin.
6.54pm. Based on four primary vote results and a speculative preference throw, the Nine computer sees a 4.25% swing to Labor in La Trobe, suggesting it will be tight.
6.52pm. First two-party result in Bonner is encouraging for LNP incumbent Ross Vasta.
6.51pm. The first two-party booth from Corangamite, which is obviously in the country, has swung 5.4% to Labor.
6.50pm. Little swing in Macquarie with three booths in on two-party (it goes without saying these are small ones).
6.47pm. Gilmore looks close with eight booths out of 66 in on the primary vote.
6.43pm. First two booths from Kooyong, albeit very small ones, look encouraging for Josh Frydenberg.
6.42pm. Promising early numbers for independent Helen Haines in Indi, with 13 bush booths in on the primary vote.
6.38pm. Some fairly encouraging early numbers for Nationals member Kevin Hogan in Page, a marginal seat in northern New South Wales that Labor was never confident about.
6.35pm. Over 1000 votes in from Calare, and early indications are Nationals incumbent Andrew Gee will keep enough of his primary vote to hold off Shooters, if they indeed make it ahead of Labor to reach the final count. Early days yet though.
5.45pm. Welcome to live blogging of the federal election count. I have been working in what little time I have had to spare on an election results facility, but I probably won’t be able to get it in action this evening. However, I should be able to make it functional for the count after election night. Similarly, I may or may not find time to do some live blogging this evening, in between my duties as a behind-the-scenes operator for the Nine Network’s coverage. Speaking of, the YouGov Galaxy exit poll for Nine, from a sample of about 3300, has Labor leading 52-48, which I’m pretty sure presumes to be effectively nationally, even though only specific marginal seats have been targeted. State by state though, the swing is, as expected, uneven: 52-48 to Labor in New South Wales (2.5% swing to Labor), 55-45 in Victoria (3.2% swing to Labor), 53-47 to Coalition in Queensland (a swing to the Coalition of 1.1%), and 52-48 to Labor in the other three states combined (a swing to Labor of 2.5%).
The bookies who paid out on a Labor win when they heard that public servants were shredding government documents are the only ones who will lose. I hope the mug who put 1 million on Labor was with them.
Probyn talking a lot of nonsense. Reckons Morrison has more authority after this win than “any leader in decades”. The guy’s a lightweight.
Adani will be happening now, even if the government has to pay for it
SportsBet owned up to losing $1.3M apparently (pointing out that at least they spent less than Clive for zero result!).
The problem with climate change is twofold.Firstly evolution has not hardwired the human brain to worry about long range threats.
We are a hunter gatherer focused on killing prey and avoiding predators and preserving what we can’t consume now.
Losing your job and or paying higher electricity bills is an immediate and obvious threat, climate change is more distant and cryptic
The other problem is it plays well in the seats of those who feel less threatened by predators (because they have skill sets to sell to employers that are not threatened by measures suggested to tackle it) and have plenty of excess bounty stored away (or their parents do) and those are seats Labor either can’t win or can’t lose.
Nice way to finish. Fitzgibbon fucking up in Hunter
Looking at the results through the ABC’s election 2019 website, I predict the Coalition will win a one seat majority.
Personally I believe the ALP in another term in opposition will go down a more ‘populist’ direction in order to appeal to voters in Queensland. I thought this election would eventually destroy either of the major parties in long run, it turns out it is going to be likely the ALP rather than Liberals. Especially given the good results the Greens have gotten in this election (in that they will get senators in every state elected).
On another note, I must indulge myself for a moment by delivering this PSA to both the lurkers who have contributed in here tonight, and to the classic names like ShowsOn, Mexicanbeemer and Marktwain who have re-emerged:
PLEASE POST MORE OFTEN.
The more people who post, the greater the diversity of opinion will be, and the less chance these comments sections will have of serving as little more than insular echo chambers which become so detached from reality that any prediction which acknowledges the possibility of results such as the one tonight is treated as rank treachery deserving of unrelenting mockery and excoriation. Power in numbers, comrades!
C@t
Yep. I was very frustrated that Labor did not counter these at all.
I wasnt confident of a Labor victory. I kept imaging scrapping over the line as it was my Express wish, but I wasnt convinced.
“Labor deserved to lose this election. The ALP continually likes to insult, intimidate and otherwise abuse those from Queensland. Like Hilary Clinton and Chris Bowen, you should never, ever, throw away a single vote or insult the electorate.”
This is both bullshit and true at the same time. That’s the way that Labor allowed itself to be portrayed and at the end of the day, politics is perception.
On the other hand if we ever get to the stage where we simply roll over to every special pleading group just because their is a possibility that the rest of society thinks your reforms are aimed at them (when in fact they are aimed to benefit the vast majority), then progressives should even bother trying.
Labor has to box smart. That means don’t get sucker punched into the corner wedge of ‘class warfare’. Focus on jobs and one big nation building plan and do everything else incrementally whilst in government.
That’s how Howard created this greedy feckless country in the first place: incremental grafting of the greed culture onto the body politic. The same MO is how we can unmake it.
Blobbit, lots of retired people up in Queensland. Don’t think Adani gets all the blame.
Palmer’s going to make billions under a party that supports coal mining. $80m is a an investment for him.
Blobbit @ #1740 Sunday, May 19th, 2019 – 12:18 am
QLD Mines, Negative gearing and Franking credits.
All three of these hurt.
Then not campaigning hard on healthcare, education and wages was a massive mistake.
But QLD is the killer. You can’t win an election winning only 20% of seats there.
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“Don’t forget the bookies. They end up with egg on face yet again.”
Nope, they won big. They didn’t predict anything; they just put odds on it (except the idiots at Sportsbet who actually paid out on Labor on Thursday).
I really want to see how the pollsters explain this result. Shy Tory Effect. Landline. Late (last 24 hour) swing.
Did they ever have it right?
I was astonished that Labor didn’t advertise its Medicare Cancer policy at all. No ad on “who do you trust to hold the banks to account for the revelations in the banking royal commission” (different from mentioning Morrison’s voting record). No ad on education.
The focus on the “top end of town” stuff did not work. Never seemed much chop. Clearly wasn’t.
I do not think we should be chamging anything. If Australia has devolved into.a collection of petty-minded greedy spineless arse-licking individuals, then do not cto cater to them. Forget about winning government. Just keep presenting the kind of policies that nearly won this election for the ALP until bastards start screaming for progressive policies. Until the L/NP rapes the country enough that the majority say “Enough”, the ALP should suppot every piece of legislation the Librats put up.
As in:
You wanted your cake, now fucken eat it.
Yeah labor’s whole advertising needs a thorough examination. I can clearly remember Morrison’s scare campaign against tax policies and the ads, I barely remember what labor were running with. I understood and follow politics, but they barely mentioned a lot of their good policies. Some serious reflection needed from the party.
AE
Why is it you are all for surrendering to the LNP agenda?
That’s your argument. Labor can’t win on its agenda. Can’t have Class Warfare. Can’t have unions breaking the law for a good cause etc etc.
If Labor listens to you no wonder they lost.
+1
One thing that has been painful about this place in the last month has been the almost totalitarian gatekeeping from fragile posters here. From childish accusations of “bedwetting” to outright telling people to leave. It was pathetic and counter-productive.
Kevin Bonham now updating his blog and providing analysis after coming off air.
Army
Precisely what my daughter and I discussed every time we saw the countless liberal ads compared to the few labor had which were ineffectual
Btw, in an obscene insult, to Phelps, and the LGBTQI community generally, Sharma had Fred Nile’s Christian Democrats at no 2. He threw a shitload of money at this. And I hope to karma he’s gone.
2016/11/07 – Clinton 47, Trump 43.
2016/06/22 – Brexit: 51% remain, 49% leave.
2019/05/17 – Labor with a lead of 51.5-48.5.
‘highly implausible under-dispersion in the Australian opinion polls’ (https://marktheballot.blogspot.com/2019/05/a-herd-of-new-polls.html)
‘The probability of 13 polls in a row at 48 or 49 per cent is 0.000059. This is actually slightly less likely than throwing 14 heads in a row.’
and
‘A systemic problem with the polls, depending on what it is, may point to a heightened possibility of an unexpected election result (in either direction).’ (https://marktheballot.blogspot.com/2019/05/why-i-am-troubled-by-polls.html )
“for forecasting purposes the pollsters’ published margins of error should at least be doubled” (https://marktheballot.blogspot.com/2015/01/polling-accuracy.html )
Now we know.
Frankly I’m mystified.
How was it that:
the pollsters got it so wrong?
The gamblers got it so wrong?
Even The Australian’s exit pollsters got it so wrong? ( they were reporting massive swings to Labor just before 6pm from exit poll data)
I really am mystified ….
I’m waiting for hard data, plus good analysis, to tell me answers to these questions, otherwise I reckon we should call in the stewards.
Blobbit,
Adani will happen now because the QLD ALP Government will realise that it will lose the next election if it doesn’t stop blocking it. Unless they are really idiots and can’t read.
Victoria @ #1759 Sunday, May 19th, 2019 – 12:26 am
For the life of me I will never understand why Labor kept their best ad until the last week and after so many people had already voted and didn’t dog Scott Morrison with vicious attack press conferences that called out his bs in real time, instead of leaving it up to people to work out for themselves!
“Probyn talking a lot of nonsense. Reckons Morrison has more authority after this win than “any leader in decades”. The guy’s a lightweight.”
Morrison’s authority in the Liberal Party is absolute at this point having won the unwinnable, Probyn is right for once, what is the dispute here?
Labor’s ad team definitely deserve the sack, yeah. Think back to the Liberal ads on Rudd and Gillard cartoons running around with knives and compare that to the rushed messages about vague cuts to something or other.
I wouldn’t cite the polls of Clinton v. Trump too much. She did beat his national vote considerably. National polls don’t account for massive swings in states that were taken for granted.
I normally look forward to Insiders. I’m not tomorrow.
guytaur,
If Labor listens to people like you, they will end up with a vote like The Greens.
Maybe the “any leader in decades” part…
“So, time to look at the senate, 39 needed, ABC currently estimating;
Right: LNP 34 + PHON 2 + AC 1 = 37
Center: CA 2, LAMB 1
Left: ALP 27 + GRN 9 = 36”
Sadly, that’s a senate that might have actually worked with labor if Shorten could have formed government: all labor would have to say to Pepe when he came “demanding” things would have been “sure, sure, that’s a brilliant idea. We’ll support that idea 100% just as soon as you can get Jackie and CA to sign up. Off you go now”.
Alas.
The cynic in me agrees with PuffyTMD…..Labor should say about the Lib agenda…..ok….you voted for it we’ll pass it. Being open and honest hasn’t worked.
( Not having a go at you Puffy btw )
“please post here more often”
Appreciated, although I really only have so much energy for partisan bickering.
Perhaps William could start a separate forum for discussing opinion polls? Just a thought.
90 mins of Insiders
C@t
This whole election campaign was so strange. I couldn’t make heads or tails of it. I didn’t detect anything of substance. Very weird.
Diogenes,
I believe the “Shy Tory” effect is real. The visceral abuse and behaviour such as Doxxing of conservative by those on the Left is a very strong disincentive to publicly declaring one’s conservative views.
Arky, do you think Morrison has more authority than Abbott after his landslide win in 2013 or Howard in 1996? When Morrison might still not even have a majority or only a very slender one?
And no election is ‘unwinnable’ for the party in power, with incumbency providing such an advantage. That’s the kind of sensationalist talk that journalists and commentators engage in, not political hardheads.
Blbbit = On this site just after the 2010 election I remember debating this very issue with psephos.
Work choices had rallied Labor’s working class support and brought them back into government but as soon as Abbott broke bipartisan agreement on carbon pricing the Rudd bubble burst and the rest is history.
I knew there and then this issue had the potential to switch maybe 5% of the electorate from labor and turn them into being rusted on tory voters, and there would be nothing like that moving in the other direction, they might vote for a tree tory like the skiing barrister but they ain’t gonna vote labor.
What a dispiriting night.
I’ve been recording the primary vote intentions from the polls for a few years now, and using my own preferences distribution and aggregation model. It’s amateurish, done for my amusement. But since April it has shown the Coalition with a TPP lead over Labor. The period from July last year until tonight looks like this.
I told myself I got it wrong. And even now I am not convinced that I got it right, but I am wondering if the pollsters got the preference allocations wrong.
Good night all.
Scott Morrison fought the election as if he were the opposition leader, just with the benefits of incumbency.
In hindsight, brilliant.
And I still think the guy is a clueless moron, but … brilliant somehow.
Rational Leftist- try being a conservative – apparently some believe we shouldn’t even post here.
“Labor lost because of “if you don’t like our policies, don’t vote for us” Chris Bowen. The cockiness of calling people trying to get ahead in life by investing in property or who may have some franking credits greedy lost a whole swathe of people in investment states like NSW, QLD and WA.
This is why Labor lost.
Personally, so many people I knew who were generally are Labor voters, or who who supported Labor their whole lives did not tick Labor #1 tonight.”
There is considerable force in that argument politically, but in reality that just meant that there was a lot of people voting against self interest, because the policies were pretty carefully targeted.
But politics is perception and the liberals were able to create the false perception that sensible changes were (1) new taxes, then (2) these ‘new taxes’ were of general application.
As richo said, labor could have gotten away with one big negative structural change, but to go for two or more was suicide.
In my view it was like gifting an ad man like Morrison the equivalent of Phil Spectors’s wall of sound.
“Blobbit, lots of retired people up in Queensland. Don’t think Adani gets all the blame.”
Yeah, fair enough. Look at it this way though – in a lot of those seats there are people who are either miners, or more likely have jobs that they believe rely on miners spending money.
They took the whole Adani thing as really being a that to their jobs, and no one was offering them anything as an alternative, apart from a “you’ll be right”. It’s not enough, when the other side it’s promising you a job on Monday.
As for the other stuff, that’s just proof you can’t go into a campaign saying there will be losers from a policy.
Up until recently, all of my online identities have had to use a pseudonym because some RWers decided they would doxx me for saying stuff they didn’t want to hear. While I am not going to act like leftists don’t do it (disagree with a Bernie supporter on Twitter and watch what happens), please understand the Right side of the ledger is certainly not clean in this department either.
I did enjoy being able to vote below the line and not have any votes go to the ALP or any of the nutters or Greens.
And that’s a shame. This place needs alternative points of view. Not only that but the only time a conservative feels comfortable here is if they’re just hostile and come to troll (which is the fault of the echo chamber for pushing out more reasonable and thoughtful conservatives.)
The polls were one thing, but the bookies odds were the thing that got me sucked in. Right in so it seems.
And a belief in a goodness that wasn’t so much there, in a spirit I believed in but it was a wish, or a past I saw rose coloured, and a future I was desperate for.
Who’s stupid now.
It is not the fault of the Labor ad team, Bill Shorten or anything else ALP.
This country is fucked. What ever we used to be, or used to think we used to be, as in ‘Fair go, mate’, egalitarian , authority-adverse, self-confident and interested in building a decent nation, we are no longer it.
The only way to win was by being like the Lib/nat nation-rapers.
I would rather lose with Bill Shorten and this progressive set of policies than win as a Liebrat clone.
As least I have pride and do not have to count myself as one of the low bastards who refused to vote for Labor.