Essential Research is back in business, its first poll for the new year no change on Labor’s 53-47 lead in the final poll last year. Both major parties are on 38% on the primary votes, which is a two-point improvement for Labor and a one-point improvement for the Coalition. Minor party primary votes will have to wait for the publication of the full report later today. In a spirit of seasonal goodwill, monthly leadership ratings find both leaders well up on disapproval – by five points in Morrison’s case to 39%, and four in Shorten’s case to 47% – while Morrison is up one on approval to 42% and Shorten is unchanged on 35%.
As related by The Guardian, further questions mostly focused on the recent far right rally in St Kilda, the most interesting finding being that 48% thought Scott Morrison “demonstrated poor leadership by not immediately condemning the rally, and those who attended it, in stronger terms”, compared with 36% who disagreed. Only 22% thought it appropriate for Senator Fraser Anning to “use taxpayer money to attend the rally”, with 66% saying it was appropriate; 74% felt there was ”no place in Australian society for the use of racist and fascist symbols used by participants in the rally”, whereas 17% were apparently all in favour of them; and that 73% nonetheless felt that “Australians have the right to peacefully protest, no matter how extreme their views”, while 19% didn’t.
The poll also find 63% support for pill testing, although the question was very particular about the specifics, specifying circumstances in which “trained counsellors provide risk-reduction advice informed by on-site laboratory analysis of people’s drugs”.
UPDATE: Full report here. The Greens are down a point to 10%, and One Nation are steady on 7%.
Thanks Quoll. I still like the brevity of my 7:52 pm 🙂
Quoll
Yes, it’s all too much for some to read the entire article to which I linked a while ago. Unsubstantiated and misinformed claims is often the go around here for some PBers. Scientific evidence, peer-reviewed journals and the like can be conveniently ignored.
Confessions
If that was the case then it is a classic own goal by the poms. They were heavily into knocking off Gaddafi and the crud in Syria. Gaddafi even warned the EU of a ‘flood’ if he goes.
Beef
There is two fundamental problems with beef:
1) It can kill you.
2)It wrecks fences.
Confessions @ #1832 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 6:22 pm
Maybe someone should ask all these people bleating about people’s choice and democracy and how sacred the vote to leave was why they aren’t so supportive of those that voted to remain in 1975, over 67% of those voting voted to remain then.
If those people that voted to remain in 1975 can have it ignored and a second referendum be conducted why can’t a third one be conducted.
I guess it is only undemocratic if it is against your particular position.
poroti:
Suggestions of a white nationalist tinge to the Brexit campaign in the wake of the Syrian refugee crisis isn’t new. And in any case there are many who argue that Brexit itself is a massive own goal by the Brits.
Another dream bites the dust:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/17/hitachi-set-to-scrap-16bn-nuclear-project-anglesey-wales
Stop making sense HaveAchat. The Brexit vote is as far away as when Australia kind-of voted for Turnbull.
Confessions
+1 on the own goal from me 😉
Confessions @ #1785 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 7:58 pm
But won’t there be less trucks going into Europe when the UK is no longer a part of Europe? Europe won’t be taking British farmers’ stuff or manufactured goods (if they do still make stuff in the UK any more). Preference will be given to the produce of the other EU members instead I would imagine. There’s a surfeit of agricultural produce grown, as I understand it, in Europe as it is.
Okay, I don’t support Jaquie Lambie any more. She believes in the Death Penalty.
Because. Martin Bryant. And drug dealers who peddled Ice to her son.
Also there’s that whole thing where she’s both ignorant of and bigoted towards Muslims.
C@tmomma
A mother doesn’t have the right to be angry?
C@t:
The problem doesn’t appear to be so much trucks going out of the UK, but coming in. And according to that WSJ article the British govt is so concerned about port congestion at Dover that it has considered using an abandoned airfield near the port as a giant parking lot for trucks for inspections.
Lambie has always struck me as a more articulate (in her own special way) version of Pauline.
When the UK go back to the EU cap in hand it will be “No separate currency for you!” 🙂
I am so glad that on the 26th West Australians, Taswegians (etc) celebrate NSW foundation day along with us fromNSW. Wonder why NZ dont celebrate it tho’.
The diet to save ourselves if not the planet.
https://phys.org/news/2019-01-human-diet-catastrophic-planet.html?platform=hootsuite
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/16/new-plant-focused-diet-would-transform-planets-future-say-scientists
Question @ #1909 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 6:23 pm
I’m similarly incredulous about the Brexit thing. In the words of Bill Maher: ‘California is the world’s 6th largest economy, soon to be 5th – thanks England!’
Simon² Katich®
Because in 1840/1 they had a jolly good ‘Kiwexit’ from NSW 🙂
Ha! I share your enjoyment of Maher Fess.
frednk @ #1913 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 9:32 pm
To that extent!?!
You can get one here:
EDIT (with apologies) The jpg I copied didn’t appear. But all is not lost. try http://www.freakingnews.com/Mammoth-McDonald-s-Restaurant-Pictures-27955.asp
Confessions @ #1914 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 9:33 pm
Still, there may be quite a few farmers in the UK with excess produce to sell now. Europe may not be interested and they will have to sell it locally, so less imports from Europe. Though, if they perpetuate the Customs Union, does that apply to Trade?
I’m confused!
citizen,
Link 🙂 Better not be for a big burger. We are talking genuine mammoth 🙂
C@t,
There will still be movement… it will just have all those tariffs nationalists love 🙂
a r @ #1912 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 9:32 pm
She gets on okay with Sam Dastyari though. 😉
Except when they are having a right old ding dong about the Death Penalty! But they hugged and made up.
In other news, the Prime Minister for Standards will make it compulsory for picnickers and beachgoers to wear or carry at least one item emblazoned with the Aussie flag – hat, beach towel, swimwear, esky, whatever. Also, it will be compulsory for drivers to attach at least one Aussie flag to their car on the Great Day.
Sorry, genuine synthetic mammoth 🙂
HaveAchat @ #1905 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 9:17 pm
Where’s Rex Douglas when you want to rub his nose in his hypocrisy? 😆
Steve777 @ #1927 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 10:01 pm
Hmm. I wonder what he thinks about this show of patriotism?
Rex needs to explain his position, because I’m sure it has nothing to do with democracy.
Does he want the UK to suck-it? Does he approve of nationalism? Does he just want to make provocative posts?
His opinion has never been clearly stated… then again, I don’t read it all.
C@t:
I’m certainly no expert and would never claim to be! I’m simply reading the stuff that has come up on social media the past few days, and going off what I’ve read here mostly from briefly and TPOF.
But my understanding is that the EU is by far and away Britain’s largest trading partner. Presumably as a member of the EU that trade relationship comes with concessions or whatever that one assumes won’t necessarily be available if Britain exits the EU, esp under a hard Brexit option.
Time is running out, but as George Will has written, perhaps the Brexiteers will lose their bravado once the cold, hard reality becomes apparent in the weeks/days leading up to the date, as the US Congress did during the GFC.
Did the UK have a problem dumping on Australia, New Zealand and Canada when the UK joined the Common Market?
Abbott has such dodgy paperwork credentials after discovering Australia, perhaps he should be asked to explain?
Alexander Downer looks like a UK bus driver!
Does Australia presently have a PM?
Some people would like to see the Union Jack removed from the Australian flag, not just the Scottish bit!
Barnaby Joyce is hero at his school reunions and an embarrassment for his four daughters!
In the last fifty thousands years, is the 26th February the most significant date?
Ask a Portuguese or Dutch sailor!
Ask an indigenous Australia whether thongs are acceptable footwear!
What did Indigenous Australians wear at their citizenship ceremony?
Thank goodness CFW knows a loan is a loan!
Are we doing the best we can ?
HaveAchat @ #1905 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 6:17 pm
Well, my comment was more about the lolworthy value of Downer pointlessly remonstrating with an online entertainment magazine about Brexit, thereby demonstrating his cluelessness when it comes to social media, and quite likely causing all kinds of confusion among the comms people at E!. But yes, there is also the hypocrisy.
I also don’t pretend to know, but the obvious problems are the Good Friday Agreement on the Irish boarder, and any business that spreads its parts across the EU.
Question:
Bill Maher is back our time Saturday morning.
:large
Hmm. Will the Brexiteers lose their bravado as B Day approaches?
With Steve Bannon having set up HQ inside an old Italian Monastery, I don’t think so. He’ll be urging them on…well, you couldn’t actually say, to victory, could you?
C@tmomma @ #1914 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 5:29 pm
As I said last night she has a very ugly side as well!
See, that’s the thing with Populism. Reality has a way of bursting your hyper-inflated bubbles.
BiGD,
I will keep watching to see what else comes out in the wash!
Thanks Fess, I’ll be watching when the YouTube comes up. I have an annual wake for an old mate on Saturday (it’s not as depressing as it sounds).
Goll @ #1937 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 6:15 pm
The same as all non-immigrants,
Their birthday suits!
C@t:
I’m hoping sanity will prevail and either there will be an extension given by the EU to the deadline for departure to enable ongoing negotiations, or a second referendum will be held.
There’s been plenty of talk about Putin and Russia having their hands in the Brexit mess, so at least on that front I’d hope sanity prevails so that an authoritarian dictator’s hostile attempts to subvert democracy is thwarted.
C@tmomma @ #1944 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 6:28 pm
Wait until the conversation comes round to Muslims.
Some more info on the political views of Lambie in addition to her ban the burqa bill I mentioned yesterday:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacqui_Lambie#Political_views
Lambie on Putin:
In October 2014, Lambie stated in a radio interview with ABC Radio National that she liked Vladimir Putin, saying: “I think he has very strong leadership. He has great values. He’s certainly doing his bit to stamp out terrorism and I guess you’ve got to pay the man for that.”
Corbyn has lost me on Brexit. Not to the point of Briefly, because generally I think Corbyn is on the right track, but I don’t think the times suit him the way they do Shorten.
As Ray (UK) points out, Brexit is big in Labour (UK) seats, and apparently Corbyn has always had a nationalist lean anyway. In my mind nationalism and ‘fairness’ are conflicted, so the times don’t suit him. It is an internal contradiction that is impossible to sell.
jenauthor @ #1842 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 6:40 pm
Absolutely silly statement. You should know better. At times, you give the impression that you may have some intelligence, but statements like that are just jaw-dropping.
Read this. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/89/5/1627S/4596952
and this: https://nutritionfacts.org/2018/01/11/what-do-the-longest-living-people-eat/
“The dietary guidelines recommend that we choose meals or snacks that are high in nutrients but lower in calories to reduce the risk of chronic disease. By this measure, the healthiest foods on the planet—that is, the most nutrient dense—are vegetables, which contain the most nutrient bang for our caloric buck. What would happen if a population centered their entire diet around vegetables, like the Okinawa Japanese? They end up having among the longest lives in the world.”
The separatist impulse is a feature of our times. We can see it in Brexit, in Scots nationalism, in US retreat into white nativism, in separatist claims in Spain; in divisive politics in Italy, France, Germany and Austria, in Hungary and Poland; and we can see it in our own politics too, in the split-politics that promote, accentuate and play on disaffection.
The consensual politics of the post-war order is really fragmenting. This is a part of the reality that democratic parties have to contend with. It is highly regressive imo…