The latest Newspoll has Labor’s lead up again after a period of moderating results since the leadership upheaval, the two-party lead now at 54-46, compared with 53-47 in the poll a fortnight ago. Labor is up a point on the primary vote to 39%, while the Coalition is down one to 36%, the Greens are down two to 9%, and One Nation are steady on 6%. Still more worrying for the Liberals is a reversal of the tide in favour of Scott Morrison, who records his first net negative personal ratings to date, with approval down four to 41% and disapproval up six to 44%. Bill Shorten is respectively up two to 37% and down one to 50%, and his deficit as preferred prime minister has narrowed from 45-34 to 43-35. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1646.
AM
Will Morrison even be there for the summer break?
So there is a disconnect between Jolimont and stake holders
Who would have guessed?
Look at the pay dispute as but one issue – and the CA Contracted players response referencing the non contracted players at Shield level and their treatment
Then they wheel out the compromised and limp Taylor on 9 (do they have the cricket rights anymore?) to pave the way to the release of the Report
CA have wrecked Australian cricket with their arrogance and disregard
Ditto the Australian Government – run by individuals with similar opinions as to importance and self
Barney in Victor Habour @ #221 Monday, October 29th, 2018 – 10:04 am
Maybe it has occurred to you that there are different ABC outlets in different parts of the country and across different media.
I can only report on what I heard, or in this case, didn’t hear on Sydney radio news and AM. Dick head.
KayJay,
She’s been there for a long, long time.
I think you’re safe. 🙂
zoomster @ #250 Monday, October 29th, 2018 – 7:48 am
He will have to get in the requisite PM appearance at the cricket and in the commentary box.
“And FFS…Shorten has a TEAM behind him. If he went under a bus tomorrow there are viable leadership candidates on the ALP front bench. The Libs….not so much. ALP go into this offering the electorate the best chance of STABLE Government that could actually DO the policy and governance thing for a couple of terms.”
this should be a key message for Labor – “The best team for the job”. Shorten could even drop comments such as “I’ll be the first to admit I’m not a slick salesman like the other bloke thinks he is, but I have a great team to sell. The other bloke doesn’t have a team, he’s got warring tribes who hate each others guts and malcontents more interested in settling scores than in governing for Australians.” Labor might also add “Does anybody honestly believe that if they win the next election Tony Abbott won’t be scheming to knife whichever PM the liberal party put forward? This mob need a stretch on the bench to sort themselves out and work out who is on the liberal team and who should be sitting with Cory Bernardi in some far right Conservative party. Toby Abbott is holding back the liberal party and the liberal party is holding back the entire nation on vital issues such as action on climate change, investing in new energy infrastructure, investing in education, and greater equality.
The country just can’t afford another three years of this rabble.”
happy to see the cross benching moving for a national ICAC. Will the libs try to get some toothless tiger up to avoid getting the real deal (and will labor support this given how ICAC went for them in the past?)
Adrian,
So your problem with the ABC is that they don’t conform to your listening and viewing habits.
fess
That’s if he’s PM.
adrian
Yep, we were listening to ABC (RN & Vic breakfast) to hear what they said about Newspoll. Crickets. Fran Kelly made no reference to it at all.
I can post okay, and the page looks normal,
except all the avatars have disappeared(just realised that I dialed up some privacy settings last night, so that might explain the missing avatars).‘fess,
I was in the city for most of the time and travelling day and night, plus eating out every night, and do you think I could find even one South Sudanese gang loitering with intent? Nope. Nope. Nope. 🙂
Title of song – “In control”, Hillsong.
Really enjoyed The Rosie Project on audiobook a few years ago. I was driving around Tassie on my honeymoon at the time, which may have been a factor.
C@
That just shows how sneaky those gangs are. They lull you into thinking everything’s safe and then…
There is no sign of a newspoll article on the ABC online under the “news” tab
zoomster:
[‘AM
Will Morrison even be there for the summer break?’]
I think he will be, unless they go with Julie at the eleventh hour. The other improbable scenarios are that they will lose confidence or go to an early election. I think on balance we’ll see Morrison doing his snake-oil sales pitch over Xmas, with him thinking we would unable to function in the absence of his dulcet tones.
Tony Abbott is a deluded, cruel fool.
https://outline.com/jnpJnc
Coorey in AFR.
Will the circle be unbroken (with lyrics).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SagXdu70yF4
Grab them guitars.
Why ❓
Why not ❓
zoomster
Grattan and Fran were all over polls like a rash during the RGR years. So much so they even on occasion wondered whether ‘we’ have become too obsessed by polls. I don’t think they meant themselves when they said ‘we’ .
AM
We get back to – panicking backbenchers drive leadership changes, because they have more to lose than a Minister who, at worst, retires on a cushy pension. Conversely, journos only talk to Ministers, not backbenchers, which is why they are so bad at predicting leadership changes.
ScoMo wasn’t a popular choice – he has little personal backing. If they decide they can’t win with him (and are still delusional enough to think that what they’re selling isn’t at fault, it’s just the salesperson…) then it makes sense to replace him as soon as possible.
My infinite faith in the government’s ability to f*ck things up means I think there’s room for at least one more leadership change.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/29/scott-morrisons-popularity-slides-with-coalition-support-newspoll
He might want to listen to the latest Dollop episode.
I think Morrison saying he didn’t apply for the job is really really stupid, no surprise there. Apart from being a bald faced lie, to play the reluctant recruit, all cutesy wutesy, gives the message, to the few remaining nongs who care, of unpreparedness and learning on the job. All of which is true of course, apart from the learning bit, but thanks again for underlining it.
Narns
So what’s Abbott the Envoy doing about outback aboriginal facilities?
@zoomster…..”what they’re selling isn’t at fault, it’s just the salesperson”…
There is their main problem. They think that their policies are right and it’s just the messaging to the people that is wrong. Abbott couldn’t sell their policies, neither could Turnbull and now the Ad man Morrison can’t sell them. You’d think that at some point the penny would drop….but to the Libs that penny is their version of trickle down economics and a great many people’s lived experiences of those policies is what is driving them away in droves.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/29/scott-morrisons-popularity-slides-with-coalition-support-newspoll
And it’s open for comments.
I didn’t know about Morrison’s being the son of a police officer.
lizzie
Tones otherwise engaged, looking for Lasseter’s Reef.
I would have omitted that last sentence. Blame the Liberals. Don’t provide specifics about what Labor will do differently; just let people be angry at the Liberals for a bit.
poroti @ #274 Monday, October 29th, 2018 – 11:29 am
Maybe pardner – as Mr. Abbott apparently believes in spirits – he could be looking at a mention in despatches in the form of Rule 303 .
The possibility of Mr. Abbott being mistaken for an enemy soldier is beyond my ken mon.
No persons, spirits or animals have been harmed during the typing of this piece of nonsense.
Lunch. Bakeneggs.
Barney in Victor Habour @ #257 Monday, October 29th, 2018 – 10:57 am
???
Just a small item prior to lunch.
I have just obtained what appears to be a quite interesting book entitled The Psychopath Test.
Also by this author
Them: Adventures with Extremists.
The Men Who Stare at Goats.
It’s very gratifying to see that support for Labor’s antagonists, the LNP and the Greens, is declining while it’s own support climbs.
poroti @ #269 Monday, October 29th, 2018 – 11:18 am
Yes, I remember when any tiny change in Newspoll was eagerly reported by ABC news during the Rudd/Gillard years, to such an extent that they would at least say that the change was within the margin of error.
ItzaDream says:
Monday, October 29, 2018 at 11:25 am
I think Morrison saying he didn’t apply for the job is really really stupid, no surprise there.
It’s essentially an insult to voters. No-one should be PM unless they actually want the job. He’s either being disingenuous or he doesn’t deserve the post.
zoomster:
[‘My infinite faith in the government’s ability to f*ck things up means I think there’s room for at least one more leadership change.’]
One thing’s almost certain: Morrison doesn’t have the goods to save a number of senior ministers, along with a large chunk of the back-bench. So what do they do? Turf a third PM in five years? That would reek of desperation, particularly so when judged relative to Labor’s unity.
Yet I guess if you’re desperate, you’ll try anything. If they were to draft Julie, their stocks would little doubt lift even though she doesn’t have a thorough grasp of the economy, unless she’s lifted her game since being moved from Shadow Treasurer in 2009. But that, I think, is not fatal, with her performing quite well before the cameras.
When Newman won up here with a record majority, most pundits thought he’d last three terms. But Palaszczuk knocked him off after one… Why? In my view, it was not that Queenslanders were crying out for Labor, but because Newman was/is similar to Morrison: the in-your-face type, which turns so many off.
I think Labor would be worried if Bishop were to be drafted.
Never have I seen so much glee at a well-within-MOE 2PP change.
briefly @ #285 Monday, October 29th, 2018 – 10:52 am
No-one else wants it any more?
He’s the best the LNP have got?
Faux modesty?
He doesn’t know how to do the job?
All of the above?
Aunt Mavis @ #286 Monday, October 29th, 2018 – 10:54 am
Labor and everyone else.
That scenario produces the worst possible outcomes for the left. Labor can win the election, in which case the ‘moderate’ Liberals cop all the blame for the loss and the party will lurch even harder to the right and the next change in government will produce something truly Trumpian in its depravity. Or Labor loses, and it’s 3 more years of shitty government, probably with some RWNJ knifing Bishop before the first year is up.
So…no Bishop, please. She should do the considerate thing and keep her head down until after the next election. Let the RWNJ’s wear the loss, and then let the Liberal party be replenished by people who are actually at least somewhat liberal.
Abbott would make the perfect dictator for a tiny country like Nauru. He thinks it’s a very pleasant island with superb medical facilities, he could go cycling around the entire country to look upon his subjects every day and he could big note himself at intergovernmental forums.
What more could a would be dictator wish for?
The new president of Brazil will have his hands full:
The unemployment rate is 12%. Debt to GDP is 74%*. Growth rate is less than 1%. Inflation rate is 4.5%.
*Actually much higher because state-owned entity debt is not counted.
When my right wing friends think Morrison is a clown I know he can’t last. He just hasn’t learned to fake sincerity. He really is seen as a snake oil merchant.
Don says:
Monday, October 29, 2018 at 8:53 am
Good morning all.
Can anyone please tell me if they are still having difficulty when posting. Namely, being asked to fill in name and email address each time? I am getting that message every time.
_____________
Don, that name is taken! Can you distinguish your posts by an extra letter or two please?
Thanks!
don.
Boerwar @ #287 Monday, October 29th, 2018 – 11:01 am
I think part of the glee is the way Morrison et al. have to react. Relief and hope are in the mix there too. (MOE I think is based on a single sample. When sample after sample returns a similar result I think you can learn something more. “Trend is your friend” sort of idea.)
Late Riser says:
Monday, October 29, 2018 at 12:02 pm
briefly @ #285 Monday, October 29th, 2018 – 10:52 am
ItzaDream says:
Monday, October 29, 2018 at 11:25 am
I think Morrison saying he didn’t apply for the job is really really stupid, no surprise….
No-one else wants it any more?
He’s the best the LNP have got?
Faux modesty?
He doesn’t know how to do the job?
All of the above?
Yup…all of this. It’s just fatuous nonsense. It invites the thought…if he doesn’t want to do it, then he should retire….or call an election…or just relinquish power to his opponents. A half-hearted PM is a joke.
don (Block)
Monday, October 29th, 2018 – 12:16 pm
Comment #294
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Welcome back. ☮
Brazil: yet another demonstration that the people will vote for pretty much anything that offers a promise of control and order.
Pity about the environment or treating minorities decently or, yknow, democracy itself.
a r:
[‘She should do the considerate thing and keep her head down until after the next election.’]
Let’s hope she does, for the reasons you’ve argued.
But even the Tories may stop seeing through a glass darkly,* coming to the realisation that they’re stuffed under Morrison, perhaps even looking favourably in Dutton’s direction. Now that would be a win, win situation.
* 1 Corinthians 13:12
You would think it would be a no brainer for Labor to support in trade deals international labour conventions that ban the use of prison labour, slave labour or indentured labour. Apparently not so.
https://outline.com/Nrgphy