The second Newspoll of the Scott Morrison era is no better for the Coalition than the first, with Labor maintaining its 56-44 lead. As reported in The Australian, both major parties are up a point on the primary vote, Labor to 42% and the Coalition to 34%. The minor party primary votes are still to come (UPDATE: Greens steady on 10%, One Nation down one to 6%). Newspoll skipped the personal ratings questions a fortnight ago, so its results this week are the first ever for Morrison, and the first in four weeks for Bill Shorten. Morrison is on 41% approval and 39% disapproval, while Shorten is up five on approval to 37% and down five on disapproval to 51%. However, Shorten has not replicated the 39-33 lead he recorded on preferred prime minister in the immediate wake of the leadership change, and now trails 42-36. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1653.
Newspoll: 56-44 to Labor
Newspoll records another miserable result for the Coalition on voting intention, with a small amount of consolation for Scott Morrison on personal ratings.
Dear Aunt Mavis, Matt can go and look after his property portfolio, Fiona Phillips is the bestest candidate, and future member, that Gilmore has ever seen. Fiona has not stopped working for a Labor government since the Sunday morning after the last election. Put the house on her!!!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Pollchart-ppm.svg
Preferred PM Rudd v Howard.
Looks like Rudd got a regular lead from around March 07… but that was an intensely personally popular person whereas this situation is kind of different.
DTT. I thought the same thing about the Miss Piggy thing and don’t see any value in commenting on the physical appearance of others. I find it all cheap and degrading really.
Racist stereotypes and other hate speech is probably a step further on from there as European history shows.
ar
“Gasp! Anti-semitism!!!”
Anti-shit-movie. Someone lent us the DVD; I walked out half way through, my OH (bless her) stayed till the end. Spoiler: Gonzo comes from another planet.
The worst DVD I watched (or tried to watch) recently had Baron Munchausen in the title. Utter shite. Neither of us were able to stick around till the end (despite two G&T’s on my part).
“DTT, caricatures are racist. ”
Ah dunno.
If Aussies are called sunburned, laid-back, anti-class, fun-loving, larrikins, is that racist?
On the other hand,
If Aussies are called lazy, boozy, ugly, loud-mouthed, disrespectul, SoBs, is that racist?
No to both, because ‘Australian’ isn’t a race?
Darn,
Someone posted those figures a few pages back. 🙂
ar
when does one become a member of a race?
Morning, well, afternoon all.
With the focus on a ‘recovery’ in preferred prime Minister in the latest Newspoll with Morrison ahead of Shorten,
what would they write if in a poll there was a meaningful improvement on 2PP to 53-47, but Shorten ahead on PPM?
Do they headline ‘Shorten in the lead’, does the press gallery opine all is over for the government?
ar
or a caricature?
I am a bit concerned about the front bench members without the badge.
So whose side are they on?
The concept “race” is a fiction. There is no such category. But racism – the use of stereotypes to attach negative values or to impugn, defame, discredit, demean, ostracise, reject, exile, dispossess or dehumanise specific individuals, groups or members of groups – certainly exists.
J341983
Thanks for that graph. It seems to be showing that Howard’s PPM figures fell away as well which surprises me. Probably as a result of his introduction of work choices.
Ok. Thanks Barney. I’ll go back and have a look.
Re William et al. anti-Semitism.
Perhaps I did fly off the handle at SK but I did ask him after his comment:
Nath:What exactly do you mean by that?
SK: The truth may be out there, but you can never be sure of exactly where it is atr any given moment and how fast it is travelling.
I guess it was the evasiveness of this response that set me off. He then gave another explanation which said there were certain ‘facial resemblances’. I can’t see any. SK claimed to be unaware that Frydenberg was Jewish, fair enough, but I point out that it is well documented and he was just sworn in as Treasurer wearing a kippah. I doubted his protestations but agreed to let it rest seeing that he denied it strenuously. If he is the person he says he is then I apologize for my invective and the allegation.
when does one become a member of a race?
When the gun is fired
“The notion invites a certain kind of false heroism. If I convince myself that I’m on God’s side, then what of those who oppose me?”
Will Morrison instigate a cultural / religious conflict with the aid of Ruddock, someone else that was partial to lapel badges.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-10/road-rage-attacker-free-gold-coast-court-suspended-sentence/10223004
Well this is a load of shit, hard to see how character references mean a damn thing when you’ve just finished doing time for manslaughter.
Thanks Nath.
The reputation of the Murdoch media group is what it is
And I would suggest its days of relevance are well behind it because of its reputation
The same applies to the media outlets that associate with Murdoch
I think it’s acceptable to refer to anti-Australian (or anti-American, or anti-Canadian) bigotry as racism, given that racism can be used colloquially to refer to bigotry of the grounds of nationality, culture, and religion.
E.g. it is widely accepted that anti-Muslim rhetoric and behaviour can be described as racist, despite ‘Muslim’ not strictly being a race.
Similiarly, anti-Mexican rhetoric and behaviour in the US is clearly racist, despite the fact that Mexico is in fact a multicultural nation made up of European Mexicans, Mestizos, Indigenous Mexicans, African-Mexicans, and others.
So who is the ‘real’ Morrison? Is he an imitation ocker, like Rudd tried to be for a while?
The Jewish muppet is surely Fozzy Bear. There is nothing notable about his nose. Or indeed Josh Frydenberg’s.
lizzie
“So who is the ‘real’ Morrison? Is he an imitation ocker, like Rudd tried to be for a while?”
Think you’ve nailed it.
Happy days
I guess the price of a front bench seat for Ley and Henderson is their surrender of their honour.
Not sure if this was linked earlier. It is getting fairly willing at or near the top of the Tory Tree:
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article218086925.html
So Andrew Bragg has pulled out of the race for Wentworth, stating the Liberal Party needs to preselect a woman, but none have nominated. Very strange; I can’t help suspecting that either he knew he wasn’t going to win the preselection, or fears the Liberals may actually not win the seat.
Observer @ #621 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 4:38 pm
Yeah, so why does the ABC persist with so many Murdoch hacks to comment on political developments?
This morning we were treated to Andrew Clenell (?) NSW political correspondent fr the Australian opining that the Liberal’s problem was not its policies, which were fine, but the messaging, which was dreadful.
Standard bullshit excuses, none of which were challenged by the hosts.
When the ABC has its own NSW political correspondent, it’s doubly ridiculous to resort to Murdoch spin.
William Bowe @ #576 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 3:36 pm
Well I admit I had not thought of Gonzo as in any sense Jewish (mind you I am not a muppets officionado)
William Bowe @ #618 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 4:39 pm
I think Fozzy was reserved for Scomo. I would have picked telly Monster for Frydenberg and of course (this is a bit racist) the Swedish chef for Cormann and Crazy Harry for Abbott
Pyne for Bigbird
Oscar the Grouch ?
Warren Ench is definitely Floyd
Yolanda the rat for Michaelia
Matt31
There is a suggestion that his pay-off is a winnable Senate spot.
They must really be feeling some heat on the woman front.
Gonzo an alien and Irish ridicule…. queue Spike Milligan
Spike Milligan – Irish Astronauts (edit correct link now)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esOiB_fanzI
When nominations for the Wentworth preselections closed, these were the three women on the list:
Mary-Lou Jarvis
Katherine O’Regan
Maxine Szramka
You can read this bit of fluff as special pleading for Morrison and subsidies for coal. Psephology it ain’t.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/newspoll-promise-to-dump-neg-a-big-turnon-for-voters/news-story/2a1c3797df85b9dfedb5206fd5411a17
GG
Sharma?
Cowards!!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/sep/10/scott-morrison-bill-shorten-coalition-labor-dutton-politics-live
Boerwar @ #635 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 4:52 pm
36% of Labor voters support Australia pulling out of the Paris agreement if it meant lower power prices.
Shame on them.
Barney
The least they could have done was abstained. Cowards and hypocrites.
In the first instance, I was busy and the question didnt seem important. And then you made reference to my “balls” which, at the time, made no sense to me so I assumed you were just baiting (which I didnt have time for or interest in). In retrospect I can see why you said that.
And when shiftaling made a comment asking why I made the comparison I started to wonder what was going on. I still didnt twig, but I thought I should at least explain the comparison.
I must have been living under a very comfortable and innocent rock. I had no idea about the caricature (I must have come across it – but it didnt stick). I didnt even know ‘Jewish’ was an ethnoreligion (although having met some Jews of Samarkand, I wonder about that). And Frydenbergs religion is simply not something I keep tabs on.
BiGD
With the Liberals a very little bit of integrity goes a long way.
lizzie @ #640 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 1:59 pm
Yep, yours covers it better!
Have you ever noticed when push comes to shove, Liberal rebels never follow through on their threats to cross the floor. This is especially so of votes on issues close to their hearts and allegedly a bedrock of their personal commitment to making politics more real.
GG
I actually thought that Ley in particular meant what she said.
There is one born every minute.
So who can you trust?
She’s back in the Ministry now.
GG
There was a time when ministers resigned on matters of principle.
Apparently Sharkhie will support a motion referring Dutton under s44, but not support a motion of no confidence in either the Government or Dutton
An alleged 300,000 criminal acts by a single insurance company is a bit rich:
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/banking-royal-commission/banking-royal-commission-live-insurance-hearings-10-september/news-story/e4881d96f48a3492f809173b7d53a5bc