The latest fortnightly Essential Research poll has Labor’s two-party lead unchanged at 52-48, and The Guardian report provides full primary votes for a change: both major parties are up two, the Coalition to 40% and Labor to 37%, with the Greens steady on 11% and One Nation down one to 6%, with the “others” vote presumably well down. Also featured are Essential’s monthly leadership ratings, which tell a remarkably similar story to Newspoll: Malcolm Turnbull’s approval is up one to 43%, his best result since March 2016, and his disapproval is down two to 40%, his best since the eve of the July 2016 election; while Bill Shorten is respectively down two to 31% and up one to 47%. Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister is out to 42-25, compared with 41-27 last time.
The Essential poll also finds only 15% of respondents expect the government’s national energy guarantee will reduce power prices, compared with 22% for increasing them (down nine since the same question was asked last October) and 38% for making no difference (up seven). The government’s proposed tax cuts for big companies have 41% support, up four on a month or so ago, with 36% opposed, down one. Further on company tax cuts, The Australian has a comprehensive set of further results from the weekend’s Newspoll, which find respondents tending to be persuaded that the cuts will be good for employment (50% responded cuts would create more jobs versus 36% who said they would not, and 43% believed repealing them would put jobs at risk versus 37% saying they would not), yet 52% supported Bill Shorten saying cuts for businesses with $10 million to $50 million turnover would be repeated if won office, versus only 37% opposed.
UPDATE: Full report from Essential Research here.
phoenixRED,
Corrupt Conservatives must hate social media. 🙂
Roy Arundhati who in 1997 wrote ‘The God of Small Things’ which was critical of India’s hierarchical caste system.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-03/arundhati-roy-on-fiction-and-challenging-authority/9931620
I hope Senator Hanson Young sues that creep for everything he’s got.
Lehonhelm, or whatever its name is, is a disgrace to our parliament. He also needs to understand that , no matter what SHY did or did not say in the Senate, there is nothing that justifies his words.
And how can he be so sure of what the women in his family will or won’t say? That sounds very controlling.
Never mind that according to L, unacceptable behaviour suddenly becomes acceptable depending on what a woman says or does.
According to Lehonhelm, taken from from that, SHY asked for it.
So, SHY is to blame for L’s appalling behaviour?
The latest in Malaysian politics:
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2018/07/02/malaysia-appoints-youngest-ever-minister/
Whilst, we in this country have a government who is arguing over whether they should give the Communists a run for their money and subsidise the Coal-Fired Power Generation Industry.
C@tmomma says: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 10:01 am
phoenixRED,
Corrupt Conservatives must hate social media
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There is always someone out there who knows something …….
And until Ven asked me something about Kennedy/Kushner I had no idea how closely the 2 families are actually linked – money laundering Deutche Bank, Cambridge Analytica etc etc ……..the list of ‘connections’ is staggering in both its numeracy but also complexity …..
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jul/03/sarah-hanson-young-turnbull-condemn-david-leyonhjelm
Hi Eddie
Out of bed on the wrong side this morning?
“Don’t worry ae (he of faux Roman history knowledge) and Doyley will be a long for a pep talk shortly”
For the record, I was not including Sulla amongst the list of emperors last night in the previous thread. Obviously. I was comparing his singular career to those of the emperors. I’m sorry to have to spell it out and humiliate you when you are so grumpy. I hope you don’t infarct.
AFAIK so far, having not seen any media report to that effect, it’s telling that the leaders of both major parties have not come out and condemned L.
phoenixRED,
Anthony Kennedy would have been smarter, and served Trump better, if he had stayed put in the Supreme Court and voted with the rest of the Conservative Justices. Now he’s opened another can of worms that Mueller will forensically investigate! 🙂
If Turnbull comments on the Hanson Young furore how many sentences will he complete before he blames Shorten?
Philip Wilson sentenced to 12 months home detention.
Pegasus @ #108 Tuesday, July 3rd, 2018 – 10:16 am
Pegasus, will you stop peddling the LIE that ‘both major party leaders have not come out and condemned Leyonhjelm’s comments about S H-Y’. Just because YOU, Ms Greens’ stenographer, haven’t seen it in the press!
To repeat. I was at Bill Shorten’s press conference yesterday to announce more commuter car parks for Woy Woy, Gosford and Tuggerah. He was asked about Leyonhjelm’s comments by the media present, and he condemned in the strongest terms the Leyonhjelm comments about S H_Y !
Get it, Pegasus!?!
Peg:
“AFAIK so far, having not seen any media report to that effect, it’s telling that the leaders of both major parties have not come out and condemned L.”
Perhaps they haven’t come out and condemned L because he is doing such a good job of that on his own account. Perhaps they don’t want to give him the oxygen that he desperately wants. If you think about it, then it’s likely that L wants Shorten and Trumble to attack him so he can amp up his ‘free speech’, ‘anti PC’ campaign to factor eleventy. They are denying him the opportunity.
BK @ #112 Tuesday, July 3rd, 2018 – 7:20 am
Brilliant!!!!
Good to see a facilitator get their just deserves.
Pegasus: “Roy says she is compelled to speak out about what she sees as an increasingly “majoritarian” shift in world politics. “We talk about what they call ‘strong men’, whether you are talking about Trump or Modi … and all the other democratic dictatorships around,” she says. “But actually, the problem is not those people but the fact that they are being elected in a kind of majoritarian, right-wing way.”
This comment IMO brilliantly encapsulates everything that I see as wrong with a certain sort of armchair leftist way of looking at the world.
‘Keep up, Pegasus’
Pegasus has been outed as a Turnbull stooge. Perhaps Peg is Katharine Murphy.
C@tmomma @ #113 Tuesday, July 3rd, 2018 – 7:22 am
BBBBBbbbut I haven’t seen that in any of the papers, so it can’t have happened!!!!!!! 🙂
Last night on 7.30 I thought Virginia Trioli claimed that 4700 businesses in Jim Chalmers seat of Rankin would be affected by Labor policies on company tax. ie I guess have a turnover of greater than $10m.
I thought earlier reports suggested about 20,000 companies across Australia affected. There is nothing special about Rankin demographically – 4700 in 1 electorate would equate to about 200,0oo.
Can anyone help?
Is it any wonder the electorate sees The Greens as just another political party on the make. When, not once, but twice, Pegasus has sort to peddle the lie about Bill Shorten not commenting about Leyonhjelm’s slur wrt S H_Y.
It’s just more grubby politics from The Greens and their fangirl.
“Last night on 7.30 I thought Virginia Trioli claimed that 4700 businesses in Jim Chalmers seat of Rankin would be affected by Labor policies on company tax”
Trioli + ABC + 7.30 = bullshit
Spence @ #119 Tuesday, July 3rd, 2018 – 7:25 am
Check your bookkeeper, they’re obvious hiding it from you!!! 🙂
Barney in Go Dau @ #117 Tuesday, July 3rd, 2018 – 10:25 am
From her likely, taxpayer-funded job in the electorate or parliamentary office of a Victorian Greens MP. 🙂
L is a right wing gun nut.
Most people would run a mile from litigation but I suspect he is crazy enough to welcome it.
The problem for SHY where she to litigate the defo action it would all unfortunately be about her.
[#1 has the potential to become an absolute circus, if things end up in court. The onus would be on Leyonhjelm to demonstrate that his imputations about SHY are accurate. Who knows what he’ll try?]
He will probably have to pony up a few hundred grand to lawyers to act for him first. Maybe he can get some crowd funding going
To give you the full picture, the question was asked of Mr Shorten by one of the journalists for the local paper which only comes out once a week. And I’m not even sure they will see fit to publish it as the issue will likely have blown over in the 24/7 news cycle by then and it has no local relevance. But it did happen.
meher baba @ #115 Tuesday, July 3rd, 2018 – 10:24 am
I’m sure the word they meant there was “authoritarian”.
Case in point, Trump cannot be a “majoritarian” and was not elected in a “kind of majoritarian, right-wing way” because the majority of voters actually voted for his opponent.
I hope that Jenauthor is correct in saying the political culture today is far different from that of the past and so we cannot predict elections based on criteria we once used.
Maybe. I believe it doesn’t matter a butt how much you lead in the polls between elections, it’s what happens on the big day that counts. Actually, these days the pre-polls and postals seem to count even more!
Doc Evatt and Kim Beazley – like Hillary – had victory snatched away even though they attracted more votes.
I doubt if anyone could have done better than Bill Shorten. Sure, he’s not charismatic – and that may beat him in the end – but he’s hard-working and he’s kept the team together. One gaffe and the voracious anti-Labor media is all over it. Remember Beazley and the Rove McManus/Karl Rove slip?
As for Shorten’s ‘leftist’ agenda, that may not matter too much with preferential voting but it has proved fatal to the progressive side of politics where they have first-past-the-post. Ralph Nader cost Al Gore victory in Florida and we got Bush. Bernie Saunders and the Greens hurt Hillary and we now have Trump and soon a Supreme Court which will OK gerrymanders and send the US into the dark ages for generations. British Labour picked the wrong Miliband and Jeremy Corbyn, giving us Brexit and Tory rule well into the future.
Labor and the Greens can have their policy differences, but they must unite to defeat this dreadful, dumb-ass government.
B in DG
lol,
By your logic perhaps, Turnbull has also publicly condemned L, “BBBBBbbbut I haven’t seen that in any of the papers, so it can’t have happened!!!!!!!”
If I had a dollar for every time a PBer has carried on with wtte where are the Greens on this….why have they said nothing….have they said anything…
lol
Shellbell @ #124 Tuesday, July 3rd, 2018 – 10:31 am
Or maybe a Libertarian-leaning lawyer might do it for him pro bono? I’m sure there must be a few ‘free speech’ advocates? 🙂
Pegasus @ #128 Tuesday, July 3rd, 2018 – 10:35 am
Keep digging, Pegasus, and don’t even think about apologising for your slur on Bill Shorten. Says it all about you that you prefer to distract and defend your end.
I wonder if she will kick off proceedings in Federal Court (no juries) or the Supreme Court of ACT.
Presumably L has some implied free speech over political communications idea running in his wee little cranium.
Report in a single local paper = unequivocal and unambiguous condemnation of L in MSM media.
Sure, sure
A problem with “majoritarian” eh ? Sounds like they have a problem with democracy.
Boerwar
Venezuela does provide parallels of course. But are we teetering?
Pensions and the like designed to be worthless, the flight of poor retirees, the desire for affordable dental amd medical services, ths blatant usury by multinationals, the inherent political corruption, valueless degrees, privatization of education.
There is a balance which measures bad and disservice besides goods and services and makes better decisions.
The current mob have shed any pretence in a desperate attempt to survive with some relevance and many cases of opportunistic self interest.
Look no further than the list of National Party DPMs after leaving office.
For some , it is the fear of too closely paralleling Venezuela which is the worry.
Howard spent every day undermining Unions and Reith every minute. Abbott with his RC and Turnbull carry it on. The results are effective as Union membership falls.
The outcome they hope for is being achieved.
24/7 rosters destroying quality of life and families.
Labour hire firms to hide the bad behavior.
Cuts to wages.
Removal of conditions and compromised safety.
No job security.
Imported workforce.
Underemployment.
A disorganised workforce.
Not ideal when the Treasurer blames no/low wages growth for damaging the economy then does nothing to influence the FWC to change its attitude. Or does not challenge more than 25% of listed corporates that pay no tax. And wants to reduce the Company tax rate to send even more money away from the great unwashed.
I can understand those on $200,000 plus with no kids or grandkids tolerating MT and friends. Not so those who get a pay rise and see all the necessities ( rent, rates, electricity, fuel, insurance, etc) go up by more.
Fairness is not in the vocabulary of the present government.
C@tmomma: “To give you the full picture, the question was asked of Mr Shorten by one of the journalists for the local paper which only comes out once a week. And I’m not even sure they will see fit to publish it as the issue will likely have blown over in the 24/7 news cycle by then and it has no local relevance. But it did happen.”
He can hardly be said to have taken a strong public position on the issue, and neither has Turnbull.
Julie Bishop, Catherine King and even Tony Abbott have come out and made strong comments.
I guess the party leaders feel that they have to remain in a position to be able to work with Leyonhjelm in the Senate, and that dumping on him too heavily wouldn’t help that situation.
Act seems to be the forum of choice for defo litigation for politicians.
MB
That’s my take on it.
Meanwhile, outside Canberra…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-03/archbishop-wilson-sentenced/9883610
Adelaide Archbishop Philip Wilson has been sentenced to 12 months’ detention for concealing child sexual abuse.
Magistrate Robert Stone adjourned the matter to August 14 while Wilson’s home detention order is assessed for suitability.
Birmingham’s take
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/07/02/sky-news-fox-news/
Mike Kelly was going to run the freedom of political communication defence v Crosby and Textor but they settled.
Pegasus @ #129 Tuesday, July 3rd, 2018 – 7:35 am
No, but …
Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
As for the Greens, a sentence or two on a webpage does not make a considered policy.
“I guess the party leaders feel that they have to remain in a position to be able to work with Leyonhjelm in the Senate”
Meher – as a refinement of the point I made above, I think both leaders will probably condemn L is asked directly about the issue but are otherwise desirous of keeping a lid on his attention seeking. IMO they know he is an attention seeking media tart and they don’t want to give him a further platform of ‘duelling press conferences’.
Now it may also be the case tat Trumble doesn’t want to antagonise him becaus he also forms part of Cormann’s cross bench axis of evil. The same consideration does not apply to Shorten and Labor however.
Is L a Roman Emperor too Ae ?
AE
Your take on it is appreciated.
Pegasus @ #132 Tuesday, July 3rd, 2018 – 10:39 am
Only you have set that as the bar for Bill Shorten to have to jump, Pegasus. Which, again, says more about you and the grubby Greens, or should that be, the small ‘l’ Liberals, and the lengths you will stoop to in order to destroy the Labor Party and it’s leader, and aid and abet the Coalition, in the run-up to the next federal election.
You should be ashamed of yourself, Pegasus. What you should also be doing, as a woman, is be grateful of the support you and your party and it’s Senator have received from at least one of the leaders of the major parties.
But no, you continue to demean yourself and the party you work for, by your comments and your actions here this morning, and they, and you, are diminished by them.
BK @ #40 Tuesday, July 3rd, 2018 – 8:05 am
50% greed. 50% guilt.
L’s voting record:
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/nsw/david_leyonhjelm