Newspoll and Essential Research both had polls last week, and since we’re probably not due yet for a ReachTEL (the last was three weeks ago), we presumably have a lean week coming up. The latest BludgerTrack update accounts for the two aforesaid polls, and they have had the most minimal of impacts on the voting intention aggregates, on which the biggest move is a 0.6% drop for One Nation. The seat projections have the Coalition up one in Victoria and Western Australia, and down one in Queensland. A new set of leadership ratings from Newspoll makes a modest addition to the established pattern of improvement for Malcolm Turnbull, with Bill Shorten flatlining. Full results through the link below.
BludgerTrack: 52.0-48.0 to Labor
Two polls last week landed right on the existing trend readings from BludgerTrack, which has accordingly recorded next to no movement.
lizzie @ #38 Sunday, June 24th, 2018 – 8:36 am
Thank the technological gods for the mute button. 🙂
@insiders tweets
On immigration, the Coalition is ‘signalling’ to people’s “xenophobic if not racist impulses”, @Riley7News says #Insiders #auspol https://twitter.com/InsidersABC/status/1010661952933146624/video/1
There is absolute, incontrovertible truth, statistics and cited papers even! that links the benefits to workers of Unions in their society.
From the previous thread…
Puffytmd @ #3266 Sunday, June 24th, 2018 – 12:59 am
It would be better if bludgers simply showed respect for Williams call for more civility in discussion and the end to bullying and personal attacks.
William provides a open forum for this community and deserves to be respected.
guytaur @ #52 Sunday, June 24th, 2018 – 9:13 am
So is Labor.
Big fat lie first sentence – prioritising working families, bullshit, prioritising the top earners – went through to the keeper.
Annabel is trying her hardest to get through Cormann’s stone wall.
Rex
Be fair. At worst Labar is not calling it out. That is walking by the standard and thus accepting it.
Labor is not running the racist dog whistling campaign.
C@tmomma @ #53 Sunday, June 24th, 2018 – 6:16 am
As Grog says, while business recognise that wage growth is good for them, none of them actually want to do it!
Cormann forgets the old adage: when you take in less money, you have less money to spend.
BK says: Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 9:18 am
Annabel is trying her hardest to get through Cormann’s stone wall.
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It must be like trying to talk to a pre-programmed robot …….
The question in today’s world is the legacy we are leaving our children and our Grandchildren – and the next generations?
Are we leaving a Nation and a World which is sustainable?
Are we building foundations with vision?
Foundations they can build on?
Are we saying the message we leave is “have a go” at whatever it is you wish to achieve in life because the rewards of that ambition and endeavour will serve you well?
You will not only be rewarded because of the integrity you will carry with you but you will be rewarded financially – and not just that the value of the home you may be able to afford will increase and make you “rich” but you will be the beneficiary of a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work
That, if you are industrious and save you will enjoy a meaningful return on those funds also, not a measly 2% which does not even equal inflation so is no incentive
That there is Balance in society with safety nets for those disadvantaged by their circumstances such as those who lost employment because they were employed in the car manufacture business and associated businesses or worked for the NAB (and other banks) or Telstra or a Retailer or Media Company which has collapsed or savagely reduced their work force
That you pay your fair share of tax because you wish to live in a certain type of society where safety nets are in place – including non discretionary services as basic as being able to cook a meal or keep your home warm in the depths of winter – and if you choose to stay at home to raise your children you have some respite which is not reimbursed as to cost (and available) exclusively because you are in employment
These are just some start points – and you could include every Budget expense including medical research and availability to defence including of your personal space
So once you get a little older it is not Capitalism or Socialism (and they co exist anyway), not “left” or “right” whatever they are but outcomes and that we are contributing to the next generations by the foundations we are setting for society going forward
Not just that they are the beneficiaries in our Will and that they benefit because the home we bought for $200,000- in 1980 is now worth $3 Million
Capitalism and “Right” wing to me is being satisfied at leaving that home and its monetary value to your next generations – and I, for one, want to leave far more than that
In the Australia of today that is a challenge – unfortunately
In 50 or 100 years time our generation will not be looked on favourably unless we pause now and look forward thru the prism of society and not just tax cuts giving incentive to “aspirationals” at expense to society including educational opportunity and the safety nets that maintain cohesion (and do not fester revolution including by individuals distanced from society)
I will give Crabbe this. She is challenging Corman’s narrative.
As one who criticises the ABC I feel I have to point this out.
guytaur @ #58 Sunday, June 24th, 2018 – 9:19 am
They are on a unity ticket re AS policy. They’ve stated that many times. You need to acknowledge that.
Woohoo Crabbe brought up the L A W Keating argument 🙂
Cormann constantly repeats that “Shorten is high-taxing”. He’s preparing his lines for election and has just accused Annabel of supporting Shorten.
I think we are hearing Corman’s version of shouty now
Someone earning $200K has more disposable income! It isn’t rocket science Annabel.
Using proportionate taxes to argue doesn’t really prove anything.
Cormann “Bill Shorten’s class warfare”
Annabel interrupts “OK, we’re running out of time”.
guytaur:
The LAW question was a good one. Dodged by Cormann of course.
Rex Douglas @ #64 Sunday, June 24th, 2018 – 6:23 am
There is a big difference between the structure of a policy and how it is implemented.
But nuance is a bit of a challenge for you, isn’t it!!! 🙂
90% of Australians work for employers that pay company tax? Is that right?
The Greens Party needs to focus much more on the Liberal and Labor lie that tax cuts are good for society.
Libs suddenly on the side of “verking families”, not investment bankers???
Well done Annabel. It is an immovable object.
Confessions @ #72 Sunday, June 24th, 2018 – 6:28 am
So, wages aren’t a barrier to profitability! 🙂
phoenixRED
This will give you an idea of what Annabelle was up against.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtEaR1JU-ps
Political Alert tweets
Leader of the Opposition, Bill Shorten is in Brisbane today and will join the Shadow Minister for Communication, Michelle Rowland and Labor’s candidate for Longman, Susan Lamb to make an NBN announcement, 10am #auspol https://twitter.com/political_alert/status/1010666625643700225/photo/1
I’m with Tingle! What World Cup?!
So has Labor abandoned it’s FTTP policy and settled for Turnbull’s fraudband ?
Confessions
I thought Crabbe’s whole interview was excellent. If all interviews of government ministers were like that I would have no complaints.
Its how I see interviews should be conducted.
No gotcha’s just good questions and letting the Minister answer but not letting him bulldoze with talking points
poroti says: Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 9:30 am
phoenixRED
This will give you an idea of what Annabelle was up against.
Resistance if Futile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtEaR1JU-ps
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Exactly Poroti !!!
William, I get similar results to you 47.9 to 52.1 per cent TPP.
https://marktheballot.blogspot.com/2018/06/poll-aggregation-update.html
Mark
Rather than this tawdry tax cut war between Liberal and Labor, they should be doing things like fully subsidising winter power bills of full aged pensioners.
Insiders – ReachTel polling by Australia Institute in Mayo. 2pp Sharkie 62 – Downer 38
PvO is right. Albo is creating some differentiation from Shorten before the byelections in preparation for a possible challenge.
I think it’s too late for a challenge but anythings possible…
The people of Mayo know that Downer has been parachuted in….is not a local…and it’s all about her and the Liberals, not them. I hope Sharkie romps in.
The people of Mayo know that Downer has been parachuted in….is not a local…and it’s all about her and the Liberals, not them. I hope Sharkie romps in.
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You’re not the only one!
Rex Douglas @ #85 Sunday, June 24th, 2018 – 6:48 am
Where did Albo differentiate from Labor’s current position?
Burston and Palmer look ridiculous standing alongside each other. A couple of dinosaurs.
Ides of March.not logged in @ #84 Sunday, June 24th, 2018 – 6:46 am
Georgie certainly seems to be making an impact! 🙂
“I’m with Tingle! What World Cup?!”
It’s a quadrennial performance art competition. Part aquatic, mostly bad acting. If you like Birong Dancing, you’ll probably love it!
https://youtu.be/F57gxRYXrd4
Lol I had to google the shadow Immigration Minister!
https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/paddy-manning/2018/06/2018/1528263538/calling-time-tax-cuts
At a time of mass cynicism about gutless, weathervane politicians who believe nothing and are looking out for their own interests, we should try to pause and acknowledge genuine policy bravery when it comes along. By opposing the whole pre-election budget package of income tax cuts proposed by the government, including the first stage offering low- and middle-income earners $10 a week, the Greens’ leader Richard Di Natale is trying to engage voters in a very different kind of conversation. He is trying to move beyond self-interested, hip-pocket politics, towards a discussion about what kind of country we want to be.
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It’s a big deal to call “time out” on decades of income tax cuts, which got underway in earnest in the late 1970s and early 1980s…….
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We have had years of downward envy and victim-blaming of welfare recipients, glossed over with hilarious poverty porn…..
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As The Australia Institute’s chief economist Richard Denniss argues in this fantastic excerpt from his current Quarterly Essay, Dead Right, we do not have to tolerate endlessly rising inequality in this country, but actually have a choice: “Australia isn’t poor; it is rich beyond the imagining of anyone living in the 1970s or 80s. But so much of that new wealth has been vacuumed up by a few, and so little of that new wealth has been paid in tax, that the public has been convinced that ours is a country struggling to pay its bills.”
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The Greens are unambiguously for a solid increase in Newstart of $75 a week (not per fortnight, as I wrote erroneously here last month), and for an increase in the minimum wage. It may or may not be clever politics for the Greens to argue against a low- and middle-income tax cut, and Richard Di Natale may or may not succeed, but at least he’s trying.
Yet again Insiders can only manage to get Alice Workman on Talking Pictures
Rex, there are members of the ALP,Greens and others here who have a different view than their leaders and the direction their respective parties take, but it doesn’t mean they want to challenge them. It’s called debate. The media are playing games.
Over more than 100 years, Labor has won from Opposition just four times – under Scullin in 1929, Whitlam in 1972, Hawke in 1983 and Rudd in 2007.
All exceptional leaders in their own way.
The shortest gap was between Whitlam and Hawke, 11 years. It is nearly 11 years since Kevin 07.
Make of that what you will.
“Where did Albo differentiate from Labor’s current position?”
Fuck me dead. The Liberals and Nationals have been tearing themselves apart on a range of substantial issues since 2015, including as late as this week over NEG, and yet this weak attempt to dress up an orthodox labor speech – one that could have easily been written and delivered by Shorten himself – as some type of division and a prelude to a leadshit challenge is pathetic.
And yet. Instead of pointing out how desperate the Liberals are, the CPG fucking run with it! Truly oxygen thieves.
Shorten is about to make that five.