A little extra polling:
• The Australian on Tuesday provided an extra finding from the weekend Newspoll: that opposition to reforming Section 44 has hardened since August, when Barnaby Joyce’s difficulty first emerged. Fifty-one per cent now believe dual citizens should be disqualified from parliament, up seven, with 38% opposed, down five. Forty-six per cent opposed a referendum being held on the matter, with 43% in support.
By-election latest:
• Western Australia’s Darling Range state by-election will be held on June 23. Nathan Hondros of Fairfax reports the Liberal preselection, which will be determined by the party’s state council on Saturday, will be contested by Alyssa Hayden, who unexpectedly lost her upper house seat for East Metropolitan region to One Nation in 2017, and Rob Coales, a police sergeant and Serpentine-Jarrahdale councillor. The early mail was that Coales was favourite, but according to Hondros, it is “understood party powerbrokers are supporting Ms Hayden”.
• David Crowe of Fairfax reports the date for the Super Saturday by-elections could be pushed back to July 7, as the government looks at an Australian Electoral Commission recommendation to implement an online tool for candidates to lodge declarations and supporting documentation, so as to avoid further issues arising from Section 44. This had caused initial plans for a date of June 16 to be scotched, although concerns linger about the electoral impact of an eight-week campaign.
• Speaking of, Michael McKenna of The Australian reports the Liberal National Party preselection for Longman is being held off until next Tuesday to ensure frontrunner Trevor Ruthenberg was able to clear up his own Section 44 issue, arising from his being born in Papua New Guinea.
• Georgia Downer has emerged unopposed for Liberal preselection in Mayo. The Australian reports “ambitious conservative” Michael van Dissel was another potential nominee, but withdrew as it became clear the Right was solid behind Downer. In contrast to the Liberals in WA, Labor will be contested Mayo, despite never having held hte saet before. A Labor source quoted by Philip Coorey said the party believed its preferences could assist Rebekha Sharkie, and that failing to run would suppress the party’s Senate vote at the next election.
• Braddon will again be contested for the Liberals by Brett Whiteley, who held the seat from 2013 until his defeat by Labor’s Justine Keay in 2016, and served in the state seat of Braddon from 2002 until his defeat in 2010. The Burnie Advocate reports former McDonald’s licensee Craig Brakey and Wynyard RSL president Gavin Pearce also contested the state executive vote, but Whiteley was chosen unanimously.
• The Western Australian Liberals’ decision to forfeit the Perth by-election, said to have been instigated by Matthias Cormann, has been widely criticised in the party. Following Tim Hammond’s resignation announcement on May 1, Christian Porter told Sky News Australia the party would “undoubtedly” run, and state Opposition Leader Mike Nahan, who had mocked Labor’s unsurprising decision not to field a candidate in the recent by-election for Colin Barnett’s old seat of Cottesloe, said the by-election was “one we need to contest”.
• The Western Australian Greens have announced their by-elections candidates: Caroline Perks, senior sustainability officer at the City of Perth, in Perth; and Dorinda Cox, domestic violence campaigner and former police officer, in Fremantle.
Other preselection news:
• Jane Prentice’s preselection defeat in her Brisbane seat of Ryan has roused controversy over the lack of gender balance in the Coalition. The winner was Julian Simmonds, a Brisbane councillor who once worked on Prentice’s staff when she herself was on council. Simmons, who is identified with the Right, won a local party ballot by 256 votes to 103 over Prentice, a moderate and early backer of Malcolm Turnbull. Charlie Peel of The Australian reports the vote was “roughly split along traditional party lines, with Nationals backing Ms Prentice”. Critics of the decision include Campbell Newman, Leichhardt MP Warren Entsch and Capricornia MP Michelle Landry.
• Jared Owens of The Australian reports Ian Macdonald and Barry O’Sullivan, who respectively hold Queensland Senate seats for the Liberals and the Nationals, face preselection challenges from Scott Emerson, the former state Shadow Treasurer who lost his seat of Maiwar to the Greens last November, and Susan McDonald, managing director of a chain of butcher’s shops and a member of “one of Queensland’s grazing families”.
• Michael Owen of The Australian reports on a “strong challenge” for Liberal Senate preselection in South Australia from Alex Antic, an Adelaide councillor. This apparently poses a threat to another female Liberal MP, Anne Ruston, who might otherwise be expected to lead the ticket, but not to the mooted number two candidate, David Fawcett. It might also endanger Lucy Gichuhi’s hold on number three, long shot proposition though that may be.
g
Sorry but your comments will only be taken seriously if you admit to heterophobic tendencies.
Im all for less talk about the wedding. Its driving me up the wall. Every bloody FTA channel wants to cover it live.
Ah so now you are going the shunning route.
Ignore the gay voice in the blog how dare I raise visibility and discrimination as an issue.
Lets get back to ignoring the gay person and only respond when he talks about anything other than his point of view when he is attacked.
This is of course his paranoia and not a group bullying strategy
Roger Miller @ #148 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 8:33 am
That’s how Setka got his rap sheet in the first place! 🙂
Guytaur is absolutely right to speak up against the derision of LGBTQI people.
I will repeat myself too.
I’ve been making the point that to deny racism, where it exists, is also racist; that to deny misogyny, where it exists, is to compound misogyny. In the same vein, to deny homophobia, where it exists, is in itself also homophobic.
guytaur was ridiculed by the neighbourhood bully for expressing his sexuality on a day dedicated to defending LGBTQI people against phobia. And when he objected, the ridicule was denied. Today he’s been told to shut up. His right to defend himself against homophobia – to give effect to his equality – is being contested.
I’m with guytaur.
lizzie @ #143 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 11:29 am
Some CFMEU people have been doing work around my area and I have exchanged a few words with them.
The very antithesis of what the Govt. droogs say. Polite without exception. Some young women among them who seemed to enjoy both their work and the respect of the blokes.
I suppose there is the occasional rough diamond among them. I have yet to encounter one.
The paper copy of the Australian has an article, PM’s bid to cool China anger. This is on the front page, first article.
About Ciobo’s ‘milestone speexh’ in Shanghai.
Something about boats and stormy seas.
It is one of those articles the GG does so well, starting ostensibly as straight news morphing into commentary.
“The Australian first reported on the diplomatic freeze between the two nations in February.
Malcolm Turnbull and foreign minister Julie Bishop are yet to confirm any plans to visit China… “
Does Treasury Wines Estates have close links to the Liberal Party? Because that is what the Chinese are targetting…
I agree with briefly. Beorwar playing the MRA card.
lizzie
I couldn’t get outline to work either, but the googling the main title thing did.
…having said that, it was a load of vacuous nonsense!
Ides of March not.logged in @ #151 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 11:34 am
And the ABC has decided that blanket coverage is the thing.
Plus, you guessed it, Annabel Crabb as royal correspondent.
lizzie @ #146 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 11:31 am
AR wrote an “AFR Paywall Blocker”. Do you have it installed?
lizzie @ #132 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 11:21 am
http://www.afr.com/news/politics/tony-abbott-julie-bishop-and-the-great-betrayal-20180508-h0zsbs
I couldn’t get it to work either.
I can get it directly (both Firefox and Chrome).
Tony Abbott, Julie Bishop and the great ‘betrayal’
by Aaron Patrick
The foreign minister looked deeply into her leader’s eyes and smiled sweetly. Of course she wasn’t responsible for leaks against her own government, she assured him.
They were sitting alone in the generously spaced wood-panelled room that has been the seat of prime ministerial power for thirty years, as morning light streamed over the Great Dividing Range. His muscles still tender from a gym workout, Tony Abbott wasn’t sure whether to believe Julie Bishop.
Tension between a leader and their deputy is an occupational hazard of politics. John Howard and Peter Costello were barely on speaking terms outside the cabinet room.
This level of aggression was on another level. An article that morning, December 10, 2014, had reported that the relationship between Abbott’s sometimes-abrasive chief of staff, Peta Credlin, and Bishop may have irretrievably broken down.
It was a direct assault on the prime minister’s office. Abbott’s personal staff – fiercely loyal to their leader – were convinced Bishop was the attacker.
Although Abbott couldn’t have known it at the time, the critiques of Credlin would build such momentum that she would eventually become the symbol of everything perceived to be wrong with his leadership.
On that early summer’s day, even without the benefit of foresight, Abbott immediately appreciated the damage created by the perception of open conflict between his chief adviser and his deputy. Rifts at the heart of the government are toxic politics.
“Please Julie, you can’t have this sitting out there on the front page,” Abbott said, according to a source familiar with the conversation. “You need to get on the phone to [editor-in-chief] Chris Mitchell and make an on-the-record denial.”
Can you take any more? I am prepared to be merciful.
JR
Curious and v interesting. There is nothing about it on the front page here. ‘Diplomatic freeze’ is, IMO, short hand ‘for finely targetted trade war’.
JR
Curious and v interesting. There is nothing about it on the front page here. ‘Diplomatic freeze’ is, IMO, short hand ‘for finely targetted trade war’.
bemused @ #162 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 8:40 am
I had it installed but it seems to have dropped off some how.
So I will be clear to you all. Even if you all block me I will keep posting and if you continue to ignore my complaints I will take it further. Not just with William.
Instead of attacking me and calling me paranoid you all need to have a hard look at yourselves.
You have all made me angry. Why you tell me to shut up be invisible don’t post.
Of course I get in your face when you do that.
Look at my history and be honest with yourselves. How many times have I mentioned I find a guy hot?
How many times have I mentioned what personal relationships I have?
How many times have I mentioned I went out to dinner with my partner?
How many times do you do this every day?
I dare to point out someone is in my view being homophobic and I must be paranoid. I am being ridiculous in presenting my point of view.
Think how that feels when you are told that.
Think how you would feel not even being able to talk about sexuality in a broad sense.
Its like telling an Indigenous person to never speak about racism.
Don’t you love how the word ‘militant’ is reserved for unions and terrorists in the MSM.
No militant bank ‘bosses’, no militant right wing politicians, no militant tax avoiding CEOs…
Having been viciously accused being of being a homophobe by g (how visible was THAT) I have no compunction at all about serving it back up to him.
guytaur (Block)
Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 11:42 am
Comment #167
I don’t block anybody.
I am perfectly happy for you to post about whatever you wish.
I will admit to longing for less argument on this blog but I don’t make the rules.
I wish you well, now and always.
I’m with you guytaur. As any gay person can attest, the “Don’t shove it in our faces” routine is insidious and humiliating and we have all experienced that line many times.
Don’t let them grind you down mate, it’s not worth it.
Thank you everybody. I can see the article isn’t really worth the bother. Come on down, Days of our Lives (which I don’t watch, either).
BW
Actually I said I don’t think you are homophobic.
You want say that is calling you homophobic when we were in the middle of a robust debate thats up to you.
However I am starting to think you may have self identified when you mention wanting a straight pride parade.
Barney in Go Dau @ #166 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 11:42 am
It works perfectly for me every time.
guytaur, one thing is for sure – bemused knows how to aggravate people while pretending to be Mr Innocent. It’s a routine that he has honed to a fine art over years of incessant posting.
Don’t let him and others get to you – they’re not worth it.
lizzie says:
Friday, May 18, 2018 at 11:03 am
…”I am not attacking guytaur for being gay. I just wish he’d stop being so paranoid”…
…
I, for one am very glad Guytaur is gay and think we should celebrate and rejoyce his sexuality.
Being gay is excellent, most if not all of the single sexed men I have dropped half a dozen pinger’s with were inspiring and brave people.
Guytaur if you would like to come to Queensland, I will happily take you out for a weekend on the town.
I know lots of safe places we can go out and get fucked up together until the sun comes up.
If you are single, I can introduce you to all sorts of nice people, gay, straight, female and male, who will not judge you for being a perfectly natural person who might be something other than that which is considered normative.
If you have a husband or a wife, a boyfriend or a girlfriend, bring him or her too, nobody will give a shit.
Do you like dancing? I don’t particularly, but shove enough Class A and booze down my throat, and I will jump on a podium and bump uglies with the fattest of fatties.
I love you.
G
Short memory? You stared flat out that I was a homophobe. That was last year. So, now I am not?
Thank you, I don’t think.
bemused @ #162 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 11:40 am
If you don’t, it’s probably too late to get it now. Google deemed that it violates their ToS. Trying to reason with them on such things is basically pointless.
The firefox version is still alive, however.
Please, please, stop commenting about other commenters. Just don’t. Sit on your hands. PB is just torture while you rabbit on about each other.
Guytaur, you really are raving now.
There are heterophobes and oldophobes and old white menophobes.
I have met some of them.
They are smug in their righteous batardry as well.
The conceptual trick here is to realize that most old white men have no power and no wealth. And most of them are invisible. Whether the are gay or not.
Goodoh… now back to the serious stuff. Why are Turnbull and Bishop so silent about the trade punishment being meted out by China? After all that (plus the complete unreliability of the US) completely invalidates the recent White Paper.
Back to taws.
Boerwar – Gold Star – defender of underprivileged old white straight men.
BW
Think about why I said it in the middle of a robust debate about me. My being.
I took it back very quickly in a comment to confessions and you went into high dudgeon.
Guess what.
That feeling you got for that minute. Thats what gay people suffer every time sexuality is discussed.
Thats what gay people feel every time we are told shut up you are being ridiculous paranoid etc the list goes on.
Be very glad i don’t post very much about sexuality.
You said you would respect my right to stand up for myself. That means you have to have a bit more latitude when in the heat of an argument about who I am which is what these debates about sexuality are you need to be more forgiving.
Not expect a grovelling apology every time.
Not even for calling you a homophobe in the heat of the moment.
Not when in reply to another poster I make clear I don’t think that.
However with Bemused I am in no doubt. I am also in no doubt being told to shut up not talk about my sexuality or any issues around that especially on a day for raising visibility is homophobic.
Thank you other bludgers who have posted in support.
Its good to know I am not alone.
adrian @ #175 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 11:51 am
More of your attempted provocation and rubbish as usual.
I am just ignoring guytaur. Life is too short to do otherwise.
Boerwar says:
Friday, May 18, 2018 at 11:56 am
…”There are heterophobes and oldophobes and old white menophobes”…
…
Go right ahead and make up facts, you do this all the time, but you are not permitted to invent words.
a r @ #178 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 11:52 am
I am using Firefox.
BB
Yeah raving for being visible.
Get the point.
I am gay. I am here. I am not going away.
I will not be invisible to make you comfortable.
Hi William Bowe
Can I respectfully suggest a weekly thread marked “Hotel Room” for all those that want to engage in circular arguments. It does get tiresome trying to sift the oats from the straw.
Regards
Fred Nerk
Who unlike some long ago accepted a galah is appropriate, his opinion is not always right,is worth jack all and people should only be subjected to it once.
bemused @ #188 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 9:03 am
I’m on Chrome!!! 🙁
guytaur @ #109 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 10:59 am
Guytaur, please read the last three words of your post.
Now, do it again.
And again.
Ad infinitum.
Tom.
I used to be able to say I was gay but now I have to use another word like ‘happy’. 🙁
Wazza’s gorn!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-18/warren-snowdon-federal-labor-mp-dumped-by-party-left-faction/9774622
Tom
Well you answer the question then. What the hell is a “professional” homosexual
BK @ #195 Friday, May 18th, 2018 – 12:08 pm
Not necessarily.
I don’t know what the pre-selection rules are in NT, but he may get sufficient support outside the left faction and maybe some of the left faction.
Melania’s pet project is bullying. Perhaps she could start with hubbie
Rick Wilson
Rick Wilson
@TheRickWilson
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4h
Bullies are always like Trump; he hits people he think can’t or won’t hit back.@MichaelAvenatti is so deep in Trump’s brain Don probably writes and deletes a hundred tweets a day about him.
Bobby Gladd
@BobbyGvegas
Am I the only one who finds it odd that consistently absent from @realDonaldTrump’s daily hostile tweet storms are any direct personal attacks aimed at @MichaelAvenatti? Maybe not “odd,” but rather, “telling.” ‘eh? @TheRickWilson @emptywheel
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guytaur says:
Friday, May 18, 2018 at 12:01 pm
…”Thank you other bludgers who have posted in support.
Its good to know I am not alone”…
…
You are not alone, you are loved and supported.
You should however, avoid slurring persons who might otherwise support you.
Leave that to idiots like Boerwar and Briefly, they are experts at it, and pointing out their multitudinous flaws is best left to people other than you.
I am sorry if that offends you, but bluntness is a weapon I enjoy.