Next federal election pendulum (provisional)

A pendulum for the next federal election, assuming new draft boundaries in Victoria, South Australia and the ACT are adopted as is.

Following the recent publication of draft new boundaries for Victoria, South Australia and the Australian Capital Territory, we now have some idea of what the state of play will be going into the next election, albeit that said boundaries are now subject to a process of public submissions and possible revision. The only jurisdictions that will retain their boundaries from the 2016 election will be New South Wales and Western Australia, redistributions for Queensland, Tasmania and the Northern Territory having been done and dusted since the last election.

The next election will be for a House of Representatives of 151 seats, ending a period with 150 seats that began in 2001. This is down to rounding in the formula by which states’ populations are converted into seat entitlements, which on this occasion caused Victoria to gain a thirty-seventh seat and the Australian Capital Territory to tip over to a third, balanced only by the loss of a seat for South Australia, which has now gone from thirteen to ten since the parliament was enlarged to roughly its present size in 1984.

The changes have been generally favourable to Labor, most noticeably in that the new seat in Victoria is a Labor lock on the western edge of Melbourne, and a third Australian Capital Territory seat amounts to three safe seats for Labor where formerly there were two. The ACT previously tipped over for a third seat at the 1996 election, but the electorate of Namadji proved short-lived, with the territory reverting to two seats in 1998, and remaining just below the threshold ever since. The Victorian redistribution has also made Dunkley in south-eastern Melbourne a notionally Labor seat, and has brought Corangamite, now to be called Cox, right down to the wire. Antony Green’s and Ben Raue’s estimates have it fractionally inside the Coalition column; mine has it fractionally tipping over to Labor.

The table at the bottom is a pendulum-style listing of the new margins, based on my own determinations for the finalisised and draft redistributions. The outer columns record the margin changes in the redistributions, where applicable (plus or minus Coalition or Labor depending on which side of the pendulum they land). Since I have Cox/Corangamite in the Labor column, I get 77 seats in the Coalition column, including three they don’t hold (Mayo, held by Rebekha Sharkie of the Nick Xenophon Team, and Indi and Kennedy, held by independents Cathy McGowan and Bob Katter), and 74 in the Labor column, including two they don’t hold (Andrew Wilkie’s seat of Clark, as Denison will now be called, and Adam Bandt’s seat of Melbourne).

For those who like long rows of numbers, the following links are to spreadsheets that provide a full accounting of my calculations for the finalised redistributions in Queensland, Tasmania and the Northern Territory. I will do something similar when the Victorian, South Australian and ACT redistributions are finalised, which should be around August.

Federal redistribution of Queensland 2018
Federal redistribution of Tasmania 2017
Federal redistribution of Northern Territory 2017

Coalition seats Labor seats
+0.0% (0.6%) Qld CAPRICORNIA HERBERT Qld (0.0%) 0.0%
0.0% (0.6%) Qld FORDE COX (CORANGAMITE) Vic (0.1%) +3.2%
(0.7%) NSW GILMORE COWAN WA (0.7%)
0.0% (-1.0%) Qld FLYNN LONGMAN Qld (0.8%) 0.0%
(1.1%) NSW ROBERTSON LINDSAY NSW (1.1%)
(1.4%) NSW BANKS GRIFFITH Qld (1.4%) -0.2%
0.0% (1.6%) Qld PETRIE MACNAMARA (MELBOURNE PORTS) Vic (1.5%) +0.1%
+0.2% (1.8%) Qld DICKSON BRADDON Tas (1.6%) -0.6%
(2.1%) WA HASLUCK DUNKLEY Vic (1.7%) +3.2%
(2.3%) NSW PAGE MACQUARIE NSW (2.2%)
+1.1% (2.5%) Vic LA TROBE ISAACS Vic (2.4%) -3.3%
+7.6% (2.8%) SA BOOTHBY EDEN-MONARO NSW (2.9%)
+2.0% (3.2%) Vic CHISHOLM PERTH WA (3.3%)
+4.3% (3.3%) SA MAYO RICHMOND NSW (4%)
+0.0% (3.4%) Qld DAWSON LYONS Tas (4%) +1.7%
0.0% (3.4%) Qld BONNER BENDIGO Vic (4%) +0.2%
(3.6%) WA SWAN MORETON Qld (4.1%) +0.0%
(3.6%) WA PEARCE HOTHAM Vic (4.3%) -3.2%
-0.0% (3.9%) Qld LEICHHARDT DOBELL NSW (4.8%)
-1.9% (4.1%) Vic CASEY JAGAJAGA Vic (5.1%) +0.4%
(4.7%) NSW REID McEWEN Vic (5.4%) -2.4%
+0.4% (4.8%) Vic INDI BASS Tas (5.4%) -0.7%
+1.2% (5.7%) SA STURT LILLEY Qld (5.8%) +0.5%
+0.1% (6%) Qld BRISBANE SOLOMON NT (6.1%) +0.1%
(6.1%) WA STIRLING GREENWAY NSW (6.3%)
+0.5% (6.2%) Vic DEAKIN BURT WA (7.1%)
-0.1% (6.7%) Qld KENNEDY BALLARAT Vic (7.5%) +0.1%
(6.8%) WA CANNING FREMANTLE WA (7.5%)
0.0% (7.1%) Qld BOWMAN PARRAMATTA NSW (7.7%)
-0.7% (7.1%) Vic FLINDERS BLAIR Qld (8.2%) -0.7%
-1.2% (7.4%) Vic ASTON LINGIARI NT (8.2%) -0.2%
+1.6% (7.6%) Vic MONASH (McMILLAN) WERRIWA NSW (8.2%)
-2.9% (7.7%) Vic MENZIES HINDMARSH SA (8.2%) +0.7%
+0.0% (8.2%) Qld WIDE BAY BARTON NSW (8.3%)
-0.1% (8.4%) Qld HINKLER MACARTHUR NSW (8.3%)
-3.5% (8.6%) SA GREY KINGSFORD SMITH NSW (8.6%)
-0.1% (9%) Qld RYAN CORIO Vic (8.6%) -1.4%
+0.1% (9.1%) Vic WANNON BEAN ACT (8.9%) New
+0.1% (9.2%) Qld FISHER ADELAIDE SA (8.9%) +2.1%
(9.3%) NSW HUGHES OXLEY Qld (9%) 0.0%
0.0% (9.6%) Qld WRIGHT MARIBYRNONG Vic (9.5%) -2.8%
(9.7%) NSW BENNELONG HOLT Vic (9.9%) -4.3%
-0.6% (10.1%) Vic HIGGINS SHORTLAND NSW (9.9%)
(10.2%) NSW HUME PATERSON NSW (10.7%)
-0.0% (10.9%) Qld FAIRFAX FRANKLIN Tas (10.7%) +0.0%
(11%) WA MOORE MAKIN SA (10.8%) +0.1%
(11.1%) WA DURACK RANKIN Qld (11.3%) 0.0%
(11.1%) WA TANGNEY BRAND WA (11.4%)
(11.1%) NSW WARRINGAH FENNER ACT (11.8%) -2.1%
+0.2% (11.3%) Qld FADDEN McMAHON NSW (12.1%)
(11.6%) NSW LYNE HUNTER NSW (12.5%)
0.0% (11.6%) Qld McPHERSON CANBERRA ACT (12.9%) +4.4%
(11.8%) NSW CALARE CUNNINGHAM NSW (13.3%)
-0.2% (12.4%) Vic GOLDSTEIN KINGSTON SA (13.5%) +0.1%
(12.6%) WA FORREST WHITLAM NSW (13.7%)
(12.6%) NSW COWPER NEWCASTLE NSW (13.8%)
-0.8% (12.6%) Vic KOOYONG LALOR Vic (14.3%) +0.9%
(13.6%) NSW NORTH SYDNEY GELLIBRAND Vic (14.7%) -3.6%
+6.9% (14.4%) SA BARKER SYDNEY NSW (15.3%)
-0.4% (14.6%) Qld MONCRIEFF CLARK (DENISON) Tas (15.3%) -0.0%
(15%) WA O’CONNOR BRUCE Vic (15.8%) +11.7%
(15.1%) NSW PARKES MELBOURNE Vic (17%) +0.4%
0.0% (15.3%) Qld GROOM FOWLER NSW (17.5%)
(15.4%) NSW COOK WATSON NSW (17.6%)
(15.7%) NSW MACKELLAR SPENCE (WAKEFIELD) SA (17.9%) +0.8%
(16.4%) NSW NEW ENGLAND GORTON Vic (18.3%) -1.2%
(16.4%) NSW RIVERINA CHIFLEY NSW (19.2%)
(16.4%) NSW BEROWRA BLAXLAND NSW (19.5%)
0.0% (17.5%) Qld MARANOA CALWELL Vic (20%) +2.2%
(17.7%) NSW WENTWORTH SCULLIN Vic (20.4%) +3.1%
(17.8%) NSW MITCHELL FRASER Vic (20.9%) New
-0.3% (18.1%) Vic GIPPSLAND WILLS Vic (21.7%) +0.5%
-1.4% (19.9%) Vic MALLEE BATMAN Vic (22.2%) +0.5%
(20.5%) NSW FARRER GRAYNDLER NSW (22.4%)
(20.7%) WA CURTIN
(21%) NSW BRADFIELD
-2.5% (22.4%) Vic NICHOLLS (MURRAY)

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. poroti @ #501 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:27 pm

    TPOF

    Only if you consider criticising the Israeli government as “Antisemitism” .

    Depends on the underlying thought. An obsession with the behaviour of the Israeli government which draws on anti-semitic tropes and believes its behaviour to be more vile than mass murderers in the region who you defend aggressively sounds like anti-semitism to me.

  2. TPOF

    Re “believes its behaviour to be more vile than mass murderers in the region ” . So you defend them with a bit of ‘whataboutery’ ?

  3. TPOF @ #500 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:16 pm

    poroti @ #496 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:06 pm

    C@tmomma

    Israel being another fanboi of “duel use” bans as they torture the Palestinians.

    A bit of casual anti-semitism here. You definitely have no problems with muslims murdering muslims with chemical weapons though.

    It is not anti-semitism to criticise Israel. Many jews do so. Israel is a rogue state. It blows up and shoots children, while building illegal settlements on land that it steals, which land is not even within its borders.

  4. poroti @ #503 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:38 pm

    TPOF

    Re “believes its behaviour to be more vile than mass murderers in the region ” . So you defend them with a bit of ‘whataboutery’ ?

    Oh dear. Whataboutery indeed.

    By the same token, let’s put our energies into sending indigenous dope smokers to jail as a higher priority than dealing with bankers ripping people off for millions of dollars.

    The more you dissemble the more you smell of rank anti-semitism

  5. poroti @ #506 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:53 pm

    TPOF

    The assassination of Rabin and the ascendancy of the RWNJobbies was a tragedy for the whole region.

    I agree totally with that. I think Netanyahu is despicable. But the speed with which hackles are raised and assumptions made about everything done by Israel while the same people want further and better particulars and every alternative explanation for mass killings, that dwarf Palestinian deaths and injuries, elsewhere in the same region and the rest of the world needs more explanation than simply squealing ‘whataboutery’ to deflect criticism of the disproportionate approach from some here (and elsewhere dotted around the ‘left’).

  6. Yabba88 @ #505 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:48 pm

    TPOF @ #500 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:16 pm

    poroti @ #496 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:06 pm

    C@tmomma

    Israel being another fanboi of “duel use” bans as they torture the Palestinians.

    A bit of casual anti-semitism here. You definitely have no problems with muslims murdering muslims with chemical weapons though.

    It is not anti-semitism to criticise Israel. Many jews do so. Israel is a rogue state. It blows up and shoots children, while building illegal settlements on land that it steals, which land is not even within its borders.

    It is not anti-semitism to criticise Israel, just as it is not anti-Islam to criticise Iran. The Israeli government has done many things – or many things have been done by members of its armed forces that deserve the strongest condemnation. But the blanket description of Israel as a ‘rogue state’ is the sort of thing that is concerning.

    What do you mean by ‘rogue state’? Do you a State that ignores the norms of civilised behaviour in the way it treats people inside and outside its borders? In that case, why is Egypt not a rogue state? Or Turkey? Or Iran? Or Saudi Arabia? Or, dare I say it, Russia? All of these countries in recent years have waged brutal repressions both inside and outside their borders but they are not often described as rogue states here.

    When the only ‘state’ that is described as a ‘rogue state’ because of what is done in its name is the Jewish state it does raise serious questions about unconscious anti-semitism.

  7. TPOF

    Unfortunately the whole region became the plaything of empires. Be it the French,British,Ottoman or US. People are people and the average ‘Joe Blow’ in any society does not want to head off to fight/bomb/kill/wage war on the people next door. It all comes down to power and wealth. Those with both want more.

    Meanwhile those that lack both suffer.

  8. poroti @ #514 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 4:08 pm

    TPOF

    Unfortunately the whole region became the plaything of empires. Be it the French,British,Ottoman or US. People are people and the average ‘Joe Blow’ in any society does not want to head off to fight/bomb/kill/wage war on the people next door. It all comes down to power and wealth. Those with both want more.

    Meanwhile those that lack both suffer.

    Nice one para summary of history. Doesn’t save lives now though to bleat about the past.
    And nobody and no ethnic group is going to open themselves up to genocide by agreeing that something was wrong in the past and they’ll just hand over power and land. Why do you think Assad drew so much support from non-Sunnis? From Alawites and Christians and Shias? Because they knew that just rolling over because the Assad family were brutal murderers would leave them slaughtered.

    And Israel has the same attitude. There would be few in Israel that would have any doubt that the vengeance wrought by Palestinians taking power in Israel would be brutal and deadly and genocidal. People like you can wring your hands as much as like about bad, bad Israel but it only confirms among the Jews remaining in France and in a prospective Corbyn Britain that at least in Israel they could control their own destiny and not be subject to the kind hand-wringing inaction (coupled with self-serving smug assurances that ‘these people’ only have themselves to blame) that Jews faced before and even after the Second World War.

  9. To my reckoning both Newspoll & Essential, if a fortnightly cycle, are both due.

    That said, I suspect Newspoll to delay so it is not in sync with Essential all the time.

  10. Sally McManus‏Verified account @sallymcmanus · 7h7 hours ago

    I will never forget the televising of John Lomax being dragged off in a paddy wagon during the union royal commission. The charges were dropped. He was innocent. Can you imagine this happening to a Bank CEO?
    #insiders #bankingRC

  11. Jen

    NewsPoll is more tri-weekly. Expect one before the budget (May 8) when parliament resumes sitting days.

  12. lizzie @ #519 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 4:25 pm

    Sally McManus‏Verified account @sallymcmanus · 7h7 hours ago

    I will never forget the televising of John Lomax being dragged off in a paddy wagon during the union royal commission. The charges were dropped. He was innocent. Can you imagine this happening to a Bank CEO?
    #insiders #bankingRC

    Or Catherine Brenner who as I understand it attempted to alter a report to remove any suggestion or knowledge of an illegality. Correct me if I’m wrong.

  13. Jen:

    I thought Essential came out weekly? Maybe when it was taken over by Guardian they moved to a fortnightly cycle.

  14. Meat industry employers objected to red tape and higher labour costs, but community standards were enforced, most operators complied, and the worst operators eventually left the business.
    Meat became more expensive, but it was a price worth paying. Not every cost and benefit is financial.

    That’s how it is now with the live sheep export industry. Until recently, only those working on the ships knew how bad its conditions were, and those who spoke up lost their jobs. With the terrible non-financial costs and risks now visible, are we willing to pay the financial cost of banning live sheep exports?

    It’s a small and shrinking part of the Australian meat and livestock industry. It accounts for just $250 million of the $5 billion sheep-meat industry.

    Ninety per cent of sheep exports (including from Adelaide) leave from Fremantle, WA. In the west, mixed farming is the norm, and few rely on sheep. Live export business accounts for less than 1per cent of receipts.

    The main industry player is one shipping company, Emanuel, which dispatches 1.7 million of around 1.9 million Australian animals transported each year. It pays around $8 a head more in the sale yards for lighter or worse-condition wethers. For some, it is a commercially attractive premium. Poor-condition sheep are less valued for local processing. Farmers naively expect their sheep to be well cared for.

    The reality is that it’s a dying trade, in every sense of the phrase.


    If animals were forced to experience such cruelty onshore, those responsible would be subject to prosecution under Western Australian animal welfare laws. Ownership and legal accountability should not shift offshore as soon as stock are on board.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/live-sheep-exports-are-not-worth-the-moral-cost-20180421-p4zawf.html

  15. lizzie @ #519 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 2:25 pm

    Sally McManus‏Verified account @sallymcmanus · 7h7 hours ago

    I will never forget the televising of John Lomax being dragged off in a paddy wagon during the union royal commission. The charges were dropped. He was innocent. Can you imagine this happening to a Bank CEO?
    #insiders #bankingRC

    We watched Deepwater Horizon last night, about the oil rig that exploded creating the largest oil spill in US history. The disaster occurred largely because BP supervisors put profit ahead of safety, pressuring Transocean rig workers to proceed with a drill even though a pressure test had come back unsafe.

    The BP supervisors were indicted for manslaughter in the washup, but surprise surprise these charges were eventually dismissed.

  16. Yabba88 says:
    Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 3:48 pm
    TPOF @ #500 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:16 pm

    poroti @ #496 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:06 pm

    C@tmomma

    Israel being another fanboi of “duel use” bans as they torture the Palestinians.

    A bit of casual anti-semitism here. You definitely have no problems with muslims murdering muslims with chemical weapons though.

    It is not anti-semitism to criticise Israel. Many jews do so. Israel is a rogue state. It blows up and shoots children, while building illegal settlements on land that it steals, which land is not even within its borders.

    The stereotyping is really classically antisemitic.

  17. ItzaDream @ #521 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 4:29 pm

    lizzie @ #519 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 4:25 pm

    Or Catherine Brenner who as I understand it attempted to alter a report to remove any suggestion or knowledge of an illegality. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    Yep – Here –

    AMP went through 25 drafts of the report and exchanged more than 700 emails with Clayton Utz before it was presented to ASIC as an independent report.

    The Clayton Utz process was influenced to protect Meller, this week’s evidence suggested. The chief executive’s name was struck from a list of AMP employees involved in the fees-for-no-service affair. A Clayton Utz partner, Nicholas Mavrakis, said that was because keeping Meller in “would attract unnecessary attention to him by ASIC”.

    Six months ago, on October 11, AMP received what Clayton Utz expected would be the final version of its report.

    Chairman Brenner wanted to make a few final tweaks. “Include a statement to the effect that Craig Meller was unaware of the practices or their illegality,” she ordered.

    Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/politics/national/banking-royal-commission-the-remarkable-hypocrisy-of-amp-20180420-h0z14g#ixzz5DHD4qGx1

  18. Why is Barnaby still treated by media as a Cabinet Minister? He’s now just a backbencher, and a thoroughly discredited one at that.

  19. nice NewsPoll tonight excellent timing.

    Essential did change to a 2 week period in their move to the Guardian. so it should come out on, I think, Tuesday.

  20. Times of India.

    Last year, there were reports of widespread loss to crop from pink bollworm pest attack. What was more worrying is that over 90% of the seeds sown in around 40 lakh hectares are of genetically modified Bt cotton that is supposed to be resistant to bollworm attack.

    Another problem that erupted last year was deaths from fumes inhalation while spraying string toxic pesticides on the crop. This again was blamed on the illegal sale and sowing of ‘BG-III’ or herbicide tolerant GM seeds that found their way surreptitiously into market though not approved by the state or the Union government.

    The problem has assumed serious proportions and it is now a matter of survival for cotton growers. While it has now been established that the Bt cotton seeds no longer offer protection from pest attack, the government has failed to provide alternative variety of seeds that farmers can prefer to sow. Research for a straight variety resistant to bollworm pest has failed in last four years,” said Kishore Tiwari, chairman of the task force on farm distress.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/union-agri-minister-in-city-to-attend-bollworm-meet/articleshow/63860804.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOIMobile

  21. briefly @ #525 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 4:36 pm

    Yabba88 says:
    Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 3:48 pm
    TPOF @ #500 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:16 pm

    poroti @ #496 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 3:06 pm

    C@tmomma

    Israel being another fanboi of “duel use” bans as they torture the Palestinians.

    A bit of casual anti-semitism here. You definitely have no problems with muslims murdering muslims with chemical weapons though.

    It is not anti-semitism to criticise Israel. Many jews do so. Israel is a rogue state. It blows up and shoots children, while building illegal settlements on land that it steals, which land is not even within its borders.

    The stereotyping is really classically antisemitic.

    Which stereotyping? I repeat : ‘Israel is a rogue state. It blows up and shoots children, while building illegal settlements on land that it steals, which land is not even within its borders.’

    Which part of that statement is untrue?

    Israel ignores UN resolutions; its behaviour is that of a rogue state.

    Zionist apologists are common. They do a disservice to jewish people.

  22. Van Badham‏Verified account @vanbadham · 8h8 hours ago

    The most disturbing element to the @KellyODwyer fiasco on #insiders this morning is that she was deployed because they thought she’s was the best to do it. That’s their best. My Lordy. They’re as cooked as an oiled sunbather in an El Niño heatwave. #auspol

  23. I really hope the Banks RC permanently takes a couple of points off the L/NP.

    Unfortunately I fear most working people are like my wife and are away with the fairies when it comes to their superannuation.

  24. John Wren‏ @JohnWren1950 · 10m10 minutes ago

    BREAKING: The ABC has announced a hiatus in the programming of satirical sketch show Mad As Hell. The show’s host Shaun Micallef said “We can’t top the statements being made by Liberal MPs so best we wait until the the Royal Commission is over”. #auspol #BanksRC @shaunmicallef

  25. Lizzie

    I think I read during the week that the usual go-to man Cormann was in the US so they had to field the apprentice robot O’Dwyer on Insiders instead.

    They really are a talentless bunch.

  26. Yabba 88

    Which stereotyping? I repeat : ‘Israel is a rogue state. It blows up and shoots children, while building illegal settlements on land that it steals, which land is not even within its borders.’

    Which part of that statement is untrue?

    Israel ignores UN resolutions; its behaviour is that of a rogue state.

    Zionist apologists are common. They do a disservice to jewish people.

    _______________________________________

    Russia blows up and kills children. And the Syrians drop chemical weapons on them too. UN GA resolutions are meaningless – a pure numbers game of shifting political allegiances. And UN SC resolutions are also meaningless while any one of the permanent members vetoes them.

    As I said before, obsessively singling out Israel as the ONLY rogue state in the region (usually accompanied by mad conspiracy, black ops and other incredible theories that would not even pass muster in Hollywood) tends to suggest an anti-semitic bent, especially when pointing at any other state which is Jewish majority is met with diversionary squeals of ‘it’s whataboutery’.

  27. There are many reasons to admire Iceland, but here is another one: it has just sentenced five senior bankers and one prominent investor to prison for crimes relating to the economic meltdown in 2008. And with these two separate rulings made last month in the Supreme Court and Reykjavik district court, the nation that gambled so heavily on the markets and lost so disastrously in the consequent crash has sent 26 financiers to jail for combined sentences of 74 years.

    The authorities pursued bank bosses, chief executives, civil servants and corporate raiders for crimes ranging from insider trading to fraud, money laundering, misleading markets, breach of duties and lying to the authorities. Others still await trial after this fishing nation with fewer people than Sunderland stupidly tried to take on the world’s financial titans

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iceland-has-jailed-26-bankers-why-wont-we-a6735411.html

  28. While I am one to think that bad things done by Syria and the bad things done by Israel, are you know, kinda bad by definition, and both should be condemned, those people who like to protect Israel by jumping in hysterically and dishonestly labelling anyone who criticises the state of Israel as anti-Semitic, need to sit back for a minute and realise that Israel cannot be positively discriminated from a state run by a dictator and war criminal. And even if it could get ahead on points in that debate, they are still being compared to an evil war criminal dictator, you know not a credible law abiding decent democracy or monarchy, not even a benevolent dictator.

    Just saying that would give me pause to think as I marched in to silence debate by calling critics of Israel names.

  29. As I mentioned earlier and the panel said, the issue with the Government is not so much who they get to front the tough interviews, but their talking points which I assume come from their strategy.

    Insiders also raised the Morrison Santa/Bad Santa inconsistency.

  30. WeWantPaul @ #811 Sunday, April 22nd, 2018 – 6:00 pm

    those people who like to protect Israel by jumping in hysterically and dishonestly labelling anyone who criticises the state of Israel as anti-Semitic

    Really?

    One of the great tricks of demagogues (and Liberals) is to purport to present an opponent’s position but actually take a reasonably argued position and recast it as extremist and absurd. The fact that you have to resort to this kind of patent irrationality much loved by autocrats and propagandists suggests that you may – MAY – have a little more racism running around in your subconscious than you would care to admit to yourself.

  31. Any business model that relies for its viability on appalling cruelty to animals cannot hold a social licence to operate. The long haul, live sheep trade must be phased out ASAP.— Craig Emerson (@DrCraigEmerson) April 21, 2018

    Libs endorse live export

    Labor endorses live export

    Greens will end live export

  32. The day before yesterday I poured a glass of water from my tap in our town camp and gave it to my granddaughter – I did not know it then, but there was poison in that water.

    Today, I know our water is poisoned and I will not stop until it is clean again.

    The NT Government Health Department just sent a letter, nothing else. They didn’t come to my door, just a letter saying something like, ‘there is lead contamination in the drinking water’. It’s dangerous for pregnant women, kids and everyone really. They told us to drink bottled water. We live in the bush, next to a huge river, the McArthur River. And we have to drink from bottled water, or a tank on a truck, it is very scary for our families. I am very angry and so are all of our Elders and leaders.

    https://indigenousx.com.au/gadrian-hoosan-when-water-is-death/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#.WtxCdOQh2Yk

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