Newspoll: 53-47 to Labor

Malcolm Turnbull’s personal rating takes a tumble, but otherwise little change in the latest Newspoll.

The latest Newspoll has Labor’s two-party lead unchanged on last fortnight at 53-47, from primary votes of Coalition 37% (up one), Labor 38% (up one), Greens 9% (down one) and One Nation 7% (down one). Despite the stability on voting intention, Malcolm Turnbull’s lead on preferred prime minister has been slashed from 40-33 to 37-35. The Australian’s report relates that Turnbull is down two points on approval to 32%, and Shorten is down one to 33%, but the only hint we get about disapproval is that Turnbull’s result is worse than Shorten’s. More on that shortly. (UPDATE: Turnbull’s disapproval is up three to 57%, Shorten’s is up two to 56%). The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1657.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  2. daretotread. @ #1824 Wednesday, March 7th, 2018 – 2:19 pm

    Since I seem to be the subject of discussion I was responding to a personal attack.

    Anyway if AR is desperately offended then sorry but he did start first.

    I am astonished that you somehow managed to take my response to ‘Puff, The Magic Dragon @ #1393’, in which I disparaged Trump, Duterte, and Xi but did not mention you at all, as a personal attack.

    Here’s the entirety of what I wrote, for reference:

    I think that’s the optimistic view.

    The alternative is that the insular, greedy, cruel, and wealthy will prevail, and the millions/billions of deaths will be drawn primarily from the banks of the poor and the socially repressed.

    I think we’re seeing a lot of the precursors of that with the Trumps, the Xis, the Dutertes, and so on. These aren’t people who are going to take an innovative, smart, and cooperative approach to the problem. They’re people who are going to lie, manipulate, and let things go to shit so long as they’re able to keep their nests and the nests of their families, close friends, and racially-preferred non-friends nice and comfy.

    We’re not on a good trajectory at the moment.

    Wait, are you saying you’re one of Trump/Duterte/Xi???

  3. The consequences of societal collapse will depend on what caused the collapse. if it is a nuclear winter then survival is unpredictable. Sure the rich and powerful will have nuclear bunkers and may survive, but i suspect that before long their unbalanced societies will implode and they will self destruct.

    The swiss will survive, given they have bunkers for everyone.

    Some parts of Australia will survive too, but food will be scarce for 5-10 years.

    If it is an economic collapse say due to global warming it will simply mean that different elites will emerge and some will become slaves. The rich in their bunkers may not survive because they lack survival skills and particularly co-operative skills. They will need to do their own laundry and clean their own dunnies. No Mexican maid. lawyers will not have transferable skill sets.

    Doctors and farmers will rule. However in all probability some more powerful nation will take over and semi enslave the people.

  4. Barney in Go Dau

    He sold out Russian secret agents for cash. Nothing specific to Bad Vlad, in Russia doing stuff like that is a traditional method for shortening your life expectancy.

  5. a r @ #1801 Wednesday, March 7th, 2018 – 2:26 pm

    daretotread. @ #1824 Wednesday, March 7th, 2018 – 2:19 pm

    Since I seem to be the subject of discussion I was responding to a personal attack.

    Anyway if AR is desperately offended then sorry but he did start first.

    I am astonished that you somehow managed to take my response to ‘Puff, The Magic Dragon @ #1393’, in which I disparaged Trump, Duterte, and Xi but did not mention you at all, as a personal attack.

    Here’s the entirety of what I wrote, for reference:

    I think that’s the optimistic view.

    The alternative is that the insular, greedy, cruel, and wealthy will prevail, and the millions/billions of deaths will be drawn primarily from the banks of the poor and the socially repressed.

    I think we’re seeing a lot of the precursors of that with the Trumps, the Xis, the Dutertes, and so on. These aren’t people who are going to take an innovative, smart, and cooperative approach to the problem. They’re people who are going to lie, manipulate, and let things go to shit so long as they’re able to keep their nests and the nests of their families, close friends, and racially-preferred non-friends nice and comfy.

    We’re not on a good trajectory at the moment.

    Wait, are you saying you’re one of Trump/Duterte/Xi???

    AR

    No the personal attack was earlier when you referred to intellect. It narked me because it assumes I am some kind of intellectual snob that derides others. I only take that tack after being called insane, etc (eg Cameron earlier today). It does get very tiresome.

    At least I think it was you. Sometimes I mix you and Adrian up.

    If it was not you then I humbly apologize.

    However we often get comments on here about bullying and misogynism etc. it is probably NOT a coincidence that the most abused people on this site are women. I do not intend to take it.

    Nor do I intend to stay quiet and follow the group think herd. That is the surest way to fascism and WWIII. I cannot do much but if just one person on this block rethinks some of their assumptions I will have done my best to ensure world peace..

  6. How a Russian-Linked Shell Company Hired An Ex-Trump Aide to Boost Albania’s Right-Wing Party in DC

    Did Russians use the US political system to fuel political discord in the Balkans?

    A former Trump campaign aide working as a lobbyist, a half-million-dollar payment, a conservative Albanian political party, four Republican congressmen, Breitbart News, a kosher restaurateur in New York City, an online dating service that promotes “beautiful” Ukrainian women, and Russian-linked shell companies—these are some of the elements in a bizarre tale of influence-peddling that spurs the suspicion that Russians covertly used Republicans in Washington in an effort to foment political conflict in the Balkans.d Russians use the US political system to fuel political discord in the Balkans?

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/how-a-russian-linked-shell-company-hired-an-ex-trump-aide-to-boost-albanias-right-wing-party-in-dc/

  7. Zoid

    If you are appealing to AAT good luck with it.
    I’ve found that as they cut the PS they lose knowledge and more pressure on those left behind.

    Often find they take short cuts as understaffed don’t have regard to relevant parts of the legislation and can often deride to cover up the lack of basis and reasoning for their decisions.

    Can take effort and time but you not only get satisfaction for yourself but those in similar situations.

  12. Yes, people who see this activity by Tingleas a conflict of interest are certainly showing the intellectual acumen of a child.

    A little cabbage-looking, I may be, but I definitely have more acumen than a child. Well, most children…. most children I know.

    Objectivity is damned hard to prove. Accusations of subjectivity are easy to make.

  13. poroti @ #1803 Wednesday, March 7th, 2018 – 11:35 am

    Barney in Go Dau

    He sold out Russian secret agents for cash. Nothing specific to Bad Vlad, in Russia doing stuff like that is a traditional method for shortening your life expectancy.

    It was hardly organised by his local Greengrocer back in Russia that he still owed a bag of potatoes to! 🙂

  14. “And providing further proof, if any was needed, that they collude against Labor.
    Both enemies of Labor.”

    This provides no proof of that whatsoever.

    The Greens are against toll roads. That is a policy position, which they apply regardless of who wants to build the toll road. They oppose them because cars are bad for the environment, they tend to lead to more urban sprawl than necessary, and because they do economic harm particularly to low income and vulnerable people. They have consistently opposed them across decades, across states, and even other Green parties across countries.

    The Greens were against the one the Liberals proposed in Melbourne. They are against the one Labor is proposing. They are against the WestConnex in Sydney. They would prefer to see either more public transport investment, or a publicly owned non-toll road.

    How are you trying to spin this as politics by the Greens? Or about them colluding with the Liberals? Pull yourself together.

    Edit: Whilst I usually have a lot of respect for Daniel Andrews, he really screwed up here. If this needs the Greens’ support to get through, he should have seen it coming and privately negotiated with them to ensure their support BEFORE publicly announcing the project.

  18. @barney – short term they’ll change to time of day tariffs to incentivise west facing panels. That’s the low hanging fruit, which may buy us enough time that residential batteries can be the next solution.

  19. What will happen to tariffs?

    Somebody still has to pay for the grid, somewhere, somehow. Even if you go off grid they will one day make you pay a yearly fee just for the fact the grid goes past your property. Just like sewer.

  20. Voice Endeavour @ #483 Wednesday, March 7th, 2018 – 3:51 pm

    “And providing further proof, if any was needed, that they collude against Labor.
    Both enemies of Labor.”

    This provides no proof of that whatsoever.

    The Greens are against toll roads. That is a policy position, which they apply regardless of who wants to build the toll road. They oppose them because cars are bad for the environment, they tend to lead to more urban sprawl than necessary, and because they do economic harm particularly to low income and vulnerable people. They have consistently opposed them across decades, across states, and even other Green parties across countries.

    The Greens were against the one the Liberals proposed in Melbourne. They are against the one Labor is proposing. They are against the WestConnex in Sydney. They would prefer to see either more public transport investment, or a publicly owned non-toll road.

    How are you trying to spin this as politics by the Greens? Or about them colluding with the Liberals? Pull yourself together.

    Given battery-powered vehicles are on the rise I don’t have a problem with road infrastructure.
    I’d like to see the Govt fund the Western distributor and moderate tolls imposed for users.

  28. Don’t know much about Melbourne toll roads but in Brisbane the one that has been brilliantly successful is the Gateway Bridge. So successful that they duplicated the wholebridge a few years ago. Very popular with trucks as it gets them out of the city and therefore very popular with everyone else as well. Other urban motorways not so much.

  29. bemused says:
    Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 2:48 pm
    don @ #1737 Wednesday, March 7th, 2018 – 1:48 pm

    bemused:

    The bit about DTT was unnecessary and spoilt your otherwise excellent post.
    DTT is a contrarian it seems on many occasions, but she is not always wrong.
    Her arguments are fair game, but the personal attacks and disparagement are not the way to respond.
    ________________________

    What about this from DTT?

    _____________________
    daretotread. says:
    Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 12:51 pm
    AR

    You have officially reached idiot status.
    Yes, she lets herself down when she resorts to personal jibes.

    Nah..It’s a technique used by dtt to attract attention. Insults are their specialty. And when not using insults themselves, they complain that others are meanies. It’s a formula.

  31. daretotread. says:
    Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 3:37 pm

    I cannot do much but if just one person on this block rethinks some of their assumptions I will have done my best to ensure world peace..

    Oh the nobility, oh the self-sacrifice…….oh the lulz

  33. The Abbott and Turnbull Governments have failed to deliver any real wages growth, opposing public sector wage claims and despite increasing business profits, so this is the natural responce …

    Shorten a ‘craven populist’ for pushing minimum wage rise, Turnbull says

    I would say that Turnbull is a heartless, ineffectual idiot!!! 🙂

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/07/shorten-a-craven-populist-for-pushing-minimum-wage-rise-turnbull-says

  34. Barney in Go Dau @ #502 Wednesday, March 7th, 2018 – 4:53 pm

    The Abbott and Turnbull Governments have failed to deliver any real wages growth, opposing public sector wage claims and despite increasing business profits, so this is the natural responce …

    Shorten a ‘craven populist’ for pushing minimum wage rise, Turnbull says

    I would say that Turnbull is a heartless, ineffectual idiot!!! 🙂

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/07/shorten-a-craven-populist-for-pushing-minimum-wage-rise-turnbull-says

    Like Rudd, immensely popular before exposure but has now shown himself to be way out of his depth and totally unfit to be PM.

  35. briefly @ #1829 Wednesday, March 7th, 2018 – 4:45 pm

    bemused says:
    Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 2:48 pm
    don @ #1737 Wednesday, March 7th, 2018 – 1:48 pm

    bemused:

    The bit about DTT was unnecessary and spoilt your otherwise excellent post.
    DTT is a contrarian it seems on many occasions, but she is not always wrong.
    Her arguments are fair game, but the personal attacks and disparagement are not the way to respond.
    ________________________

    What about this from DTT?

    _____________________
    daretotread. says:
    Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 12:51 pm
    AR

    You have officially reached idiot status.
    Yes, she lets herself down when she resorts to personal jibes.

    Nah..It’s a technique used by dtt to attract attention. Insults are their specialty. And when not using insults themselves, they complain that others are meanies. It’s a formula.

    You mean DTT is just like a lot of others on PB, including you, who regularly use insults?
    And it is just attention seeking?

    OK, I think I understand better now.

  38. Like Rudd, immensely popular before exposure but has now shown himself to be way out of his depth and totally unfit to be PM.

    Only now Rex?

  39. Simon Katich @ 3.45pm

    Hi SK

    My earlier comment which you quoted and to which you responded, was not in response to anything you had said.

    See the quote at the top of my original post .

    Cheers

  40. Barney in Go Dau @ #1799 Wednesday, March 7th, 2018 – 4:53 pm

    The Abbott and Turnbull Governments have failed to deliver any real wages growth, opposing public sector wage claims and despite increasing business profits, so this is the natural responce …

    Shorten a ‘craven populist’ for pushing minimum wage rise, Turnbull says

    I would say that Turnbull is a heartless, ineffectual idiot!!! 🙂

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/07/shorten-a-craven-populist-for-pushing-minimum-wage-rise-turnbull-says

    BiGD,
    Turnbull is no idiot. A heartless, ineffectual member of Australian elite society and The 1%. Yes.

    Anyway, people will just look at what Turnbull is saying, by reading between the nasty lines about Bill Shorten (and doesn’t he sound desperate?), and see Turnbull as advocating for no rise in the Minimum Wage when wages are flatlining and take a very dim view of it.

  41. ajm with the Gateway they actually built it in a place that saved drivers a lot of time & distance. Something they haven’t managed to achieve with any other tollway in Brisbane.

  44. I thought this year the Liberals might quietly accept the unions wage claim, assuming it wasn’t ambit, or at least say nothing.

    It might be a reflex action as programmed by the IPA.

  45. Shorten a ‘craven populist’ for pushing minimum wage rise, Turnbull says

    And the Greens today are very loudly supporting Labor on this issue…?

  47. From the guardian article, if Turnbull is so concerned about jobs growth, perhaps the current ‘wonder figures ‘ aren’t what they are cracked up to be.

  48. So, the Greens have really moved onto their next Massive National Campaign, from changing the Date to saving the most common macropod on earth.
    Agile. Innovative. Funky. Meaningless.

  50. briefly @ #1836 Wednesday, March 7th, 2018 – 1:01 pm

    I would like to thank dtt for her contributions today. Comic relief is very welcome at any time.

    I don’t agree.

    PollBludger is an escape into another world where you are exposed to a variety of views.

    However, many of dtt’s posts remind me of that pile of writing assignments that are awaiting correction.

    🙂

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