After a weekend of relatively good electoral and polling news for the government, Essential Research records Labor’s two-party lead out from 54-46 to 55-45. A preferred Liberal leader question has Malcolm Turnbull down four since July to 21%, Julie Bishop down one to 19% and Tony Abbott unchanged on 10%. More detail on both of these will be available when Essential Research publishes its full results later today. On the question of a potential leadership change, 18% said it would make them more likely to vote Coalition, compared with 13% for less likely and 54% for no difference.
The poll also found 38% wanted the Liberals and Nationals to continue working together, compared with 34% who thought they should be independent – with the former option heavily favoured by Coalition voters. Fifty-four per cent said they favoured majority government, with 25% preferring minor parties holding the balance of power. Fifty-one per cent felt politicians should be forced to resign from parliament if they resigned from their party, with only 24% holding the opposite view.
2,205 comments on “Essential Research: 55-45 to Labor”
Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 3:46 pm
Malcolm FarrVerified account @farrm51 · 1m1 minute ago
Barnaby Joyce confirms in Parliament: “I’m currently separated. That’s on the record.”
Why did he have to say that? Was he bring attacked by someone?
Don’t know. It is on the Armidale Express site, timestamped DECEMBER 7 2017 – 4:14PM
Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce has backed the traditional definition of marriage in his second day back in parliament, but says he doesn’t “come to this debate pretending to be a saint”.
As the same-sex marriage debate rages on across the floor, Mr Joyce confirmed he has separated from his wife.
“The current definition of marriage has stood the test of time – half of them fail, I acknowledge that,” he said.
“I’ll acknowledge that I’m currently separated so that’s on the record. I don’t come to this debate pretending to be a saint.”
Mr Joyce, who likes the traditional definition of marriage, says “it is a special relational between a man and a woman for the purposes, if you’re so lucky, for bringing children into the world”.
It is very interesting when you look at the voting numbers for the various amendments being presented today.
Most of the amendments are getting over 50 votes in support. Given that labor is voting as a bloc against the amendments the number voting in support of the rubbish amendments must consist of a huge swag of the coalition party room. So not just a small conservative rump.
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Watching Parliment and they flashed to Tony A. He had a strange rocking motion with an odd look on his face. What on earth is he doing under the desk?
MogwaitheCat: LMAO! Watching the Reps #SSM debate and saw @cpyne get his copy of Andrew Hastie’s revised amendments, scan them and toss them into the bin. #auspol
What the f@#k!!!
Pyne should just move that Katter be no longer heard. The man’s plainly sick.
Big A Adrian @ #1795 Thursday, December 7th, 2017 – 4:56 pm
Unfortunately, it is an entirely negative and destructive obsession.
I want the ABC restored, not destroyed.
Oh shot. Bob Katter is talking about boys wearing dresses again.
Just get on with the fvcking vote already!!!!!!
Kelly is up again.
They’re sounding desperate now!
SpaceKidette: EQUALITY. EQUALITY. EQUALITY.
Katter would love that. He would move straight into outraged muzzled hero of free speech and religious freedom victim mode.
“bemused, I think you are focusing too much on the meaning of ‘renounce’. As TPOF pointed out, s44 doesn’t mention it, only citizenship. You are a citizen of a country if the country says you are.”
Triton, s 44 alone is now not the relevant law.
The relevant law now is s44 and all that the HC has held about s44 in the cases about s44. And the HC has introduced the topic of “renunciation”.
s44 on its own can not be meaningfully applied to the facts and circumstances of contemporary cases because it does not on its own provide all the answers.
For example, while it talks about whether or not one is a citizen of another country, it does not talk about how one becomes a citizen of another country, nor how one ends citizenship of another country. The HC fills in the unanswered questions and its answers become part of the law.
And interestingly, s 44 does not include words and effect that are contained in your last sentence.
mikehilliard @ #1805 Thursday, December 7th, 2017 – 1:06 pm
Smith sounded like he was looking for anyone else. 🙂 🙂
Dan Gulberry @ #1809 Thursday, December 7th, 2017 – 5:08 pm
Has he never seen a man in a kilt?
Can I have the rotten fruit vendor franchise?
Re NRMA buying Manly Fast Ferries. An odd decision given their generally anti-PT stance.
In the old days the ferry would have been seen as competition to the car and purchased to run it down and close it.
And the last of the amendments is about to go down. Good riddance!
Psyclaw @ #1813 Thursday, December 7th, 2017 – 5:09 pm
Could not the HC interpretations be over-ridden by Parliament passing legislation to define such matters?
And its all very well to consider the laws of other countries, but surely not within Australia?
Jaeger @4:49PM: that’s worthy of a caption contest.
Steven @ #1818 Thursday, December 7th, 2017 – 5:10 pm
Yeah like horses were competitors to ferries.
I’m thinking more ‘Hinbenburg ‘
NeilMcMahon: This debate has gone on so long my dog has broken off the engagement. #marriageequality
The fact that the Nosters are so relaxed indicates there will be a sting to thwart a happy ending here. Next season should be bigger than ever!
bemused @ #1816 Thursday, December 7th, 2017 – 2:10 pm
Or a Pacific Islander?
Sounds like the bill will be passed on the voices – so no record of who votes against it.
Basically, Tim Wilson is saying that he doesn’t believe in protections enacted for the people, by the parliament by saying that he is a Liberal Democrat, not a Social Democrat.
What a worm.
Dan Gulberry @ #1826 Thursday, December 7th, 2017 – 5:17 pm
Or those Greek soldiers in ceremonial uniforms.
Tanya up now to speak.
Oh shut up Tim Wilson.
senthorun: The PM degrades LGBTI people by making our rights contingent on a survey and now he wants to take credit for marriage equality while voting for even more legislative discrimination of LGBTI people.
Where do I find the hose to put out this dumpster fire of ‘political leadership’?
It’s official. God exists, at least in part:
Who started the fire?
Song for today:
Did Kelly just say “sodomise” a marriage or was it just a problem with his speaking?
Tim Wilson thanks Malcolm Turnbull for bring Marriage Equality about in Australia.
Fulvio Sammut @ #1834 Thursday, December 7th, 2017 – 2:23 pm
The last flail from Mr Grecian 2000
Dan Gulberry @ #1835 Thursday, December 7th, 2017 – 1:24 pm
So, You Tubes don’t come up on the vanilla version, absent C+, on PB?
Kevin Andrews back on the bottle.
…Of Grecian 2000. 🙂
‘Could not the HC interpretations be over-ridden by Parliament passing legislation to define such matters?’
No. The Constitution trumps any legislature.
Otherwise Parliament could change the rules anytime they wanted to.
That’s what I heard as well.
Bill Shorten has questions to answer about the fires says Trumble.
Kevin Andrews putting it about again that Labor didn’t have a Conscience Vote on the Amendments.
Labor HOR MPs just decided en masse that they were rubbish.
“I believe the position is Sykes is that it’s important to heed and respect foreign law, absent a very good reason to do otherwise. Lazy/incompetent MP’s (or prospective MP’s) is not a sufficiently good reason.”
Law cannot be based on uncertainty. “Lazy/incompetent MP’s (sic)” is not a term of objective certainty.
What is an objective definition of “Lazy/incompetent MP’s (sic)” by which all candidates could objectively assess themselves.
What is an objective definition of “Lazy/incompetent MP’s (sic)” which courts could could consistently and reliably apply?
I could listen to Mark Dreyfus QC speak all day.
Kevin Andrews is using the religious defence.
Prove I’m wrong, otherwise I must be right!
This vote has taken so long to happen, my dog has called our engagement off.