A ReachTEL poll for Sky News has Labor leading 53-47, unchanged from the last such poll on October 25. However, rounding would have had to have worked pretty hard to prevent Labor gaining a point: the primaries have the Coalition down one to 33%, Labor up one to 36%, the Greens up one to 10%, and One Nation steady on 9%. Malcolm Turnbull’s lead in the forced response two-party preferred question is 52-48, compared with 51-49 last time. Also featured: 69% support for a banking royal commission, with 12% opposed.
ReachTEL: 53-47 to Labor
Overwhelming support for a banking royal commission, but stable voting intention in the latest ReachTEL.
sonar
Excellent letter from Chris Bowen.
Turnbull will be on hiding to nowhere if he tries to circumvent this. Mind you, he will probably try a weak sally, followed by inevitable ignominious retreat.
Tom the first and best says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 10:50 pm
How can they have Joyce back without the result of the poll being declared?
He cannot return to the Parliament. Surely that will have to wait for the return of the writ. But he can be returned to office and to his extra-parliamentary political roles.
Dan G:
Too funny! Social media definitely has its uses.
[‘..Joyce did not quite get to puce during today’s media harangue but his capillaries gave it their best shot.’]
Sometimes you’re amusing, Boer.
Chris Bowen is a hard head. I’ve met him a couple of times and think well of him. He is thoughtful, determined and practical. I think he will make an outstanding Treasurer.
Confessions @ #1892 Friday, December 1st, 2017 – 6:44 pm
Why would you think that?
CFW is one of the more rampant and consistent religious conservatives the Libs have.
She was a consistent opposing voice in the Senate debate also.
Welp, my last, enormously long post got marked as spam and is presumably now lost to the interwebs.
Everyone just imagine I wrote something incredibly witty and thought-provoking, please.
Barney:
I didn’t get to see any of the Senate debates on the matter, but always thought that while CFW may have been deeply religious, that she was a Yes on the issue of marriage equality.
Obviously my impression was mislaid.
Asha:
I saw it earlier but it is gone now for some reason.
How odd.
Confessions @ #1908 Friday, December 1st, 2017 – 7:15 pm
Nah, she’s a full on nutter through and through!
Yeah. It was good too.
Had paragraphs and everything 😛
Tom the first and best says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 10:50 pm
How can they have Joyce back without the result of the poll being declared?
The unstated inference being, that Barnaby Joyce will win the New England by-election tomorrow. The count will be quick and easy to do. The result will be declared tomorrow night. Cosgrove will be lined up and raring to go.
Are there any polls in new england?
@ briefly:
[‘I have made friends with the local (Wanneroo) voice of the AJP.’]
I’m so happy you’re so happy.
Really, mate, is this as good as its gets?
C@tmomma says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 11:21 pm
Tom the first and best says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 10:50 pm
How can they have Joyce back without the result of the poll being declared?
The unstated inference being, that Barnaby Joyce will win the New England by-election tomorrow. The count will be quick and easy to do. The result will be declared tomorrow night. Cosgrove will be lined up and raring to go.
I don’t think the result can be declared until all absent and postal votes have been returned, counted and entered. This usually takes ten days or so….
@ Cud Chewer:
[‘Are there any polls in new england?’]
Reference is made to homework.
I think it’s a good question from Tom. Can Joyce take his seat in the HoR without the result having been officially declared?
C says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 11:25 pm
@ briefly:
[‘I have made friends with the local (Wanneroo) voice of the AJP.’]
I’m so happy you’re so happy.
Really, mate, is this as good as its gets?
Democracy is beautiful thing, C. The AJP are idealists and really do campaign on behalf of voiceless beings. The local person is very dedicated. I admire her. She knows they cannot win but they’re determined to participate in the political process in order to promote their cause, which is the protection of animals. This is a tough gig. Who else is going to do it? No-one that I can think of. So I think they are to be valued and respected. They believe they can make a difference by appealing to the public. I believe the same thing.
Confessions says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 11:31 pm
I think it’s a good question from Tom. Can Joyce take his seat in the HoR without the result having been officially declared?
The writ has to be returned before a member-elect can take their sat. But extra-parliamentary duties are, of course, always possible.
I’m about to try out this “anonblock” function.
No prizes for guessing who I’m going to apply it to.
I note PB has gained a C…
How can this Parliament pass anything when so many of its members are under a cloud?
Re New England timetable the last date for return of postals is December 15.
but from a quick read of the (complicated) rules it seems it’s is possible to declare the result before that. Ie if winning candidate has more than 50 per cent of voters in electorate.
But with 16 candidates they might be looking at a complicated preference count so may have to wait for postals.
http://www.aec.gov.au/new-england/counting-process.htm
Dog ate it…
So, if BJ can’t be back in parliament by Wednesday, why was it written into the article I linked to?
C@t
The reporter did not do the homework.
And that should not surprise anybody.
But from my reading if Joyce for instance gets an absolute majority before the preference count they may be able to declare him the winner.
Would the AEC be under the pump to get it done ASAP? I reckon they just might
This is freaky!
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Does this sum up Barnaby?
https://youtu.be/l0sNQJRWsck
If BJ can’t be back in parliament anyways immediately following the by-election result then WTF was the point of delaying the House sitting?
rossmcg says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 11:48 pm
Re New England timetable the last date for return of postals is December 15.
but from a quick read of the (complicated) rules it seems it’s is possible to declare the result before that. Ie if winning candidate has more than 50 per cent of voters in electorate.
Interesting, ross!
The AEC site also mentions that 25,000 early votes have been cast.
rossmcg:
I don’t doubt it either.
Confessions @ #1929 Friday, December 1st, 2017 – 8:08 pm
To stop the Banking enquiry of course! 🙂
Confessions says:
Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 12:08 am
If BJ can’t be back in parliament anyways immediately following the by-election result then WTF was the point of delaying the House sitting?
To minimise the chances for rebellious Nationals to bring about the defeat of the Government in the House.
briefly @ #2329 Friday, December 1st, 2017 – 10:37 pm
However those duties cannot include actually casting a vote on anything, I assume? Which would appear to make them mostly worthless for the government.
Well clearly the govt has more than lost its way, it’s completely and utterly off the reservation !
The New York Times
9 mins ·
Breaking News: President Donald J. Trump’s ex-national security adviser, Michael Flynn, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about contacts with Russia’s ambassador.
Asha Leu @ #1469 Friday, December 1st, 2017 – 9:52 am
They are completely separate in WA – no coalition at all.
grimace
The arrangements has not been a success and, I’d say, not quite, but close to a total disaster for them.
They’ll ditch it during this period of opposition, I reckon.
I wonder if DG has worked out yet that blocking everyone appearing with ‘anonblock’ will be blocked. Not just his target.
CTar1 @ #1941 Friday, December 1st, 2017 – 11:15 pm
I haven’t done it yet. I was just thinking out loud. 😉
DG – I understood why you were considering it!
Watching CNN – Flynn in Court pleading guilty to lying to FBI re’contacts with Russians.
The first real ‘domino’.
CNN broadcast quite sane so far.
World Cup Soccer Moscow 2018 Draw Group ‘C’ – France Peru Denmark Australia
Australia up against France, Denmark and Peru in Group C of FIFA World Cup 2018.
Group A
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Egypt
Uruguay
Group B
Portugal
Spain
Morocco
Iran
Group C
France
Australia
Peru
Denmark
Group D
Argentina
Iceland
Croatia
Nigeria
Group E
Brazil
Switzerland
Costa Rica
Serbia
Group F
Germany
Mexico
Sweden
South Korea
Group G
Belgium
Panama
Tunisia
England
Group H
Poland
Senegal
Colombia
Japan
Three drawn matches might be the best Australia can hope for out of that.
Germany: Looking like Shultz will relent and talk to Merkel re’ Coalition to end impasse.
http://www.france24.com/en/20171201-germany-spd-schulz-merkel-political-impasse
Ex PM KRudd memorabilia on sale:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42038801
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Hey
I only get here on and off to post but did I see that Ketter voted NO on SSM.
He is LABOR !!!!!!!!
Yes that would be his position.
Labor tried to protect bank customers, but Sinodinos, Cormann, O’Dwyer, all acted on the banks’ behalf against the customers.
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-coalition-and-the-banks-when-the-wingman-turns-inquisitor-20171130-gzvx6r.html