Essential Research moves a point in favour of the Coalition this week as a particularly strong result for Labor a fortnight ago washes out of the two-week rolling average, leaving Labor’s lead at 53-47. Primary votes are only provided for the minor parties, so we’ll have to wait on that for the release of the full report later today (UPDATE: here it is: Coalition steady on 37%, Labor down two to 37%, Greens steady on 9%, One Nation steady on 8%). The poll also finds 33% in favour of committing military support to the United States in the event of conflict with North Korea, with 38% opposed and 26% uncommitted. Sixty-one per cent believed parliament should have a say on the matter, with only 22% favouring the prime ministerial prerogative. On the question of the biggest threats to global security, The Guardian relates the results the most favoured responses were, in descending order, terrorism, North Korean aggression, climate change, US aggression, Chinese aggression and Russian aggression.
Essential also provides one of two sets of new numbers on the same-sex marriage plebiscite/survey, the other being a second tranche of results from the weekend’s Newspoll. Both record similarly strong majorities saying they will participate: 63% for definite and 18% for probably from Essential, compared with 67% and 15% from Newspoll. They also both find supporters more likely to vote than opponents, although in both cases this is based on very small samples of prospective non-voters. The two pollsters get different outcomes on the question of whether the postal plebiscite should be held: Newspoll records 49% “in favour” and 43% “opposed”, while Essential has 39% approval and 49% disapproval. Newspoll also finds 62% in favour of “guarantees in law for freedom of conscience, belief and religion if (parliament) legislates for same-sex marriage”.
We should commission a research project to compare the functional IQ’s of voters from the various political parties.
(Divisive – not.)
GT
Hipster claim to not be hipsters. Just sayin’
Indian opposition calls for investigation into Adani over financial fraud allegations.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/20/indian-opposition-calls-for-investigation-into-adani-over-financial-allegations
IOM
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GT
I should point out im currently writing this from a local independent coffee shop with my keep cup.
What about LGBTIQfella?
guytaur @ #96 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 8:42 am
Why. Just why. Patronising and pointless demonising and likely not a penny saved. I can’t see it doing them any favours at the ballot box either.
ABS has just released this about postal surveyhttp://www.abs.gov.au/websitedbs/D3310114.nsf/home/ABS+Media+Statements+-+Australian+Marriage+Law+Postal+Survey
This is really where the rubber hits the road. How are people in Sydney on welfare able to afford their rents in the private rental market. I think this will show up the nastiness of “the public whip to shame welfare recipients ” to quote Mick Dodson. You would think these numpties would try to avoid a head on conflict. Be nasty up in Kununurra well away from the public gaze
https://mobile.twitter.com/smh/status/899764340676591616
IOM
Ah you pretending to be a LNP hypocrite to get into their mindset? Next you will be railing on about later coffee sippers as you sip your latte 🙂
GT
Im offended. Latte? Im a flat white guy.
IOM
Offended? Why? I did say pretending to ba an LNP hypocrite. 🙂
ItzaDream @ #107 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 8:53 am
Yes, Linda Burney and Mark Noffs (on Wendy Harmer’s show) very eloquently detailed the reality behind the propaganda that we heard earlier.
As Noffs said, if it goes ahead it will turn the area into a drug haven, and it is racially and ethnically based policy.
Let’s hope that it’s thrown out in the Senate.
An emotional Magda Subanski telling Carl stevanovich why the marriage equality vote is important
https://twitter.com/thetodayshow/status/899749670934544385
ItzaDream
Why ? Simple, because there are fat government contracts for friends of the Coalition in it.
We should be so lucky that Trump fried his retinas. A loud explosion next is in order. Put the ‘see no’ ‘hear no’ evil into some context. ‘Do no’ not so easy though.
poroti @ #115 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 9:00 am
I know P. Rhetorical . It makes me sick to my stomach.
ItzaDream @ #116 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 9:02 am
Oh god, done it again. Tapping away at some Trump hate speech and then reply to a post and the two get conflated. Apologies.
JoshButler: the base Newstart payment is $535 a fortnight. With 80% of that quarantined on the card, someone will only get $53 available as cash a week
JoshButler: FIFTY THREE DOLLARS. What if you buy food at markets that don’t take the card, or cash-only places? Need cash to pay for school lunch/trips?
billie @ #114 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 8:59 am
Thanks billie. So good. Emotional, intelligent, and compulsory viewing. She really is the perfect ambassador. It’s Magda on the Today Show for those who don’t open links blindly.
How about paying for public transport?
ItzaDream @ #100 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 8:45 am
Ah….
You a smart fella, Mr Itza!
Blackfullas? That’s NZ, bro.
Thanks Guytaur.
They might as well have just read that media release out on the ABC three times this morning.
But the trial is dependent on the legislation passing the parliament.
Look, I’m just putting it out there, but why has the Turnbull government chosen the area of Australia with the largest concentration of Muslim people to start their drug testing regime?
Anyway, I would laugh myself sick if the results from the trial came back recording very low levels of drug use BECAUSE there were so many devout Muslims in the survey pool. : )
lizzie @ #124 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 9:21 am
Just waiting for Planet Janet to declare, ‘We’re all EnZedders now!’ ; )
Two things.
What helps jobseekers overcome drug problems is getting a job, not being secreted further into society afraid to apply.
The most damaging drug in out society is alcohol. Ban alcohol within the Parliament and test all parliamentarians randomly. Fat chance.
Paul Kelly in hyperbole overdrive again.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought that Bill said last night that many fears from the oppn to equal marriage bods are already covered in legislation. Beat up.
sarahinthesen8: After years of attacking everyone else & whipping up fear Pauline Hanson wants an apology from me. Well, no theage.com.au/federal-politi…
https://twitter.com/sarahinthesen8/status/899775073145438210
confessions @ #129 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 9:25 am
He’s correct of course. The right to discriminate for starters.
Itzadream
Not only that. One of the rewards for giving up any addiction is more money for everything else. Restrictions on your choice of spending takes that reward away and makes it harder to rehabilitate.
ItzaDream @ #128 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 9:25 am
Looking at all that contraband tobacco in the photo of Dutts Tuber at the AFP warehouse the other day, I’d have to add Nicotine to the list of dangerous drugs. It kills you faster than a lot of the others. Ice is the worst though, by a country mile.
However, it is SO debilitating and all-encompassing in the way it takes over your life and your mind, even IF you are diverted to a Treatment facility it has a way of acting like an ear worm to your brain that makes you crave it again.
From what I have seen and heard, it actually takes about 2 years to fully overcome it’s effects and to get your life back in order. Is the government committing to provide THAT level of support? Has there been a parallel announcement about an increased number of treatment beds and facilities to cope with the expected influx of new patients?
lizzie @ #130 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 9:28 am
Yep. Plus the new Dean Smith legislation, which the government will likely rely upon as a result of a ‘Yes’ vote majority.
Has there been any confirmation about when ballot papers will be sent out?
Trump McConnell connections are having an effect.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/moore-has-big-lead-in-first-poll-for-alabama-senate-runoff.html
C@tmomma
Thanks.
I know it’s already been discussed, but could someone confirm that if I write extra words on my ballot paper, as well as voting (such as ‘what a bloody waste of money’), my vote will still count?
Paul Kelly realising that putting rights up for a vote isn’t that great an idea?
C@tmomma @ #134 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 9:32 am
Agree about tobacco C@t, haven’t we seen it. Lets not forget St Julia getting plain packaging introduced as the Libs in the pay of the drug cartels aka tobacco growers (illegal to grow your own tobacco, hello) railed against it, world leading life saving legislation.
I was walking the dogs and got chatting to an American woman one day, and the chat goes ‘so where are you from’ , and she says ‘Virginia’, and I go ‘Oh Virginia, I think Blue Grass and Horse and Lots of Money, so tell me about Virginia’, and she says ‘Tobacco honey, tobacco, lots and lots of money’.
lizzie
We Tried To Answer Literally Every Question About The Same-Sex Marriage Postal Survey
What you need to know, and more.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/lanesainty/email-me-your-questions-please?utm_term=.sf3rvQw3e#.brZKqbGYV
Thanks for that link guytaur. Ballots coming out on Sept 12.
guytaur @ #137 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 9:38 am
I’m confused. One candidate is endorsed by Trump. The other sounds like a complete religious nutjob. Neither sounds like a good option.
How can you have a runoff election with zero sane candidates?
I made a comment last night about the word, “entitled” in relation to Section 44(i).
Several commenters tried to dismiss my comments as wrong but the fact of the matter is that neither I nor they know.
This is a point in Section 44(i) that the HC has yet to rule on, so there is uncertainty in how they would.
The HC only rules on cases referred to it, so the Parties, when forming their candidate screening protocols, follow the HC rulings but where there is none they have to decide what they think the HC would say.
If they have taken the position that entitlement to citizenship by descent does not breech Section 44(i) then we have a potential can of worms if the HC actually rules to the contraire.
This is not necessarily a problem as referrals are often controlled by the Parties and if they don’t believe it contravenes Section 44(i) they won’t refer it.
The problem now is that some of the current cases going before the HC are related to gaining citizenship by descent and as such the HC could see fit to also clarify the entitlement issue.
I make no judgement on how I think they would rule but simply point out that if the HC does say that entitlement to citizenship by descent does breech Section 44(i), then there is the potential that a significant number in our Parliament will be affected by this and it could compromise Parliament’s ability to function.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/22/pat-dodson-says-cashless-welfare-card-a-public-whip-to-control-indigenous-people?CMP=share_btn_tw
Tony Abbott defends program, saying it has ‘a lot of potential’ for the welfare system in the rest of Australia
Turnbull is shocked that his postal survey has unleashed the forces of hatred. Who’d have suspected?
guytaur
You are always helpful. Thanks. 🙂
lizzie @ #130 Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 – 9:28 am
Yes indeed!
Check Equal Opportunity legislation in the various states. It grants exemptions to religious and political bodies etc. for various things like employment.
Rick Wilson is a GOP operative, who doesn’t do hyperbole.
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