The third voting intention poll from YouGov again has primary vote numbers that aren’t wildly off beam from the other pollsters, but leans heavily to the Coalition in terms of preference allocation. However, this is less severe than it was in the last poll, so I’ve decided to revert to type in running the two-party result as my headline, at least on this occasion. Whereas the Coalition led 52-48 in the last poll, this time it’s level despite both major parties being unchanged on the primary vote, at 36% for the Coalition and 33% for Labor. However, the Greens are down two points to 10%, which a) brings this result closer into line than other pollsters, and b) would actually have led to you expect movement away from Labor on two-party preferred, if previous election preferences were applied. One Nation is up a point to 8%. Applying 2016 preference flows to these unrounded figures, the result come out at around 52-48 in favour of Labor.
Other findings from the poll:
• Malcolm Turnbull records 45% approval and 47% disapproval, while Bill Shorten is on 42% approval and 47% disapproval, which is better than what both are used to. Also featured are ratings for a number of second-tier political figures, with results of 34-56 for Tony Abbott, 25-38 for Richard Di Natale, 31-44 for Christopher Pyne, 39-52 for Pauline Hanson, 33-43 for Bob Katter and, with the only net positive result, 50-25 for Nick Xenophon.
• Twenty-six per cent say Malcolm Turnbull “represents what the Liberal Party stands for” more than Tony Abbott, 19% the opposite, 22% call it a draw, and 18% say neither does. The respective numbers are 20-19-13-38 for being in touch with the concerns of ordinary Australians, 30-14-14-30 for electability and 23-19-13-35 for strength of leadership.
• Fifty-three per cent say they would support a referendum on establishing a new body representative of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, but it may just be that people like referendums: of those in favour, 38% would vote yes in such a referendum and 15% would vote no. Support was presumably lower among those opposed to a referendum, but the numbers are not provided.
• Thirty-seven per cent would support a referendum proposal to allow dual citizens to run for federal parliament, with 48% opposed.
• Sixty-eight per cent believe women in sport should get the same pay as men, with only 18% opposed. Sixty-four per cent think the AFL officials who resigned over relationships with younger female staff members were right to have done so, with only 17% saying they were wrong to have.
The poll was conducted online from Thursday to Monday, with a sample of 1005.
NOTE ON COMMENTS REDESIGN: As regular users will know by now, we have a new comments facility which looks a lot sharper than what we had before and has a number of welcome new features. It also publishes the results in reverse chronologically, which is not to everybody’s tastes but has been done for good reason, and which you get used to quicker than you might think. Most of all, this has had a spectacular effect on the efficiency with which Crikey’s servers are operating.
Aqualung @ #869 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 5:25 pm
Me @ 840m from the node near Freo. FTTN 25/5 plan Iinet
Ookla test on the Perth Optus Server.
PING 7 ms
DOWNLOAD 23.88 Mbps
UPLOAD 4.78 Mbps
Getting what i’m paying for, but wont get much better until they upgrade….someday
I thoroughly recommend the Cote De Ivoire Dark Chocolate Kit Kat.
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Puff:
Interested in your thoughts about this:
http://www.communitynews.com.au/weekend-courier/news/rockingham-woman-given-good-behaviour-bond-after-stealing-neighbours-dog-to-care-for-it/
Personally I think this is an area of the law that needs looking into, esp as the woman was acting in the dog’s interests in the face of its careless and irresponsible owner.
Imacca, I was consistently getting 22/23 upload when first connected but it now hovers around 15. Not sure if I should contact TPG or not.
I see on the ABC News that the Defence investigations into various actions in Afghanistan are ongoing.
We don’t seem to have heard much of Andrew Hastie recently?
PING 7 ms
DOWNLOAD 23.88 Mbps
UPLOAD 4.78 Mbps
25/5 plan in Freo, perth optus server just now
Not bad, but wont get any better until the upgrade……someday…from FTTN
test???
My Speedtest result is about 5 down and .8 up …
Geez, comment chronology all over the place on ipad with Safari.
Unusable unfortunately.
Again, a suggestion when doing speedtest, particularly for getting a better idea of what your experience is actually like, try using a test server some distance away from your actual location. Being able to download & in particular upload to a sever practically next door (lets say 50-100km) is one thing. Going cross country or international is another.
My nearest server (Geographically)
Sydney (Looks like a nearer hop, will investigate)
California
adrian @ #909 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:02 pm
One should always avoid using safari. In my opinion it is worse than IE could ever be
Thanks William. Yeah was just seeing what all the icons were for . Mum. Always told me don’t fiddle.
But I couldn’t help myself
Zeh. How do I get the images to display instead of the link?
Aqualung @ #913 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:05 pm
make sure you use a url ending in .png .jpg .jpeg or .gif
Hmmmm….i was at first getting around 15 or so, but latley am getting it pretty consistent 19-22 down. dont seem to have any congestion issues on my node as yet either, but they have really only just started connecting people in my suburb in the last month and a half.
Zeh @ #914 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:06 pm
‘right click + copy image address’ is your friend
Some sites are particularly tricky may need ‘right click + inspect element’ and some snooping about to find the url 😛
After my tete a tete with Julia Gillard last weekend I can fully appreciate how you must be feeling Fess. The very thought of being in the same room as Mal the Magnificent must have your heart all a flutter. Do try not to swoon won’t you.
I was told to go with MyRepublic as my NBN ISP too, Zeh!
Zeh @ #910 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:02 pm
Your ISP is possibly routing all of your traffic through a mainland-based point-of-presence (most likely in Sydney)? So to get toa speedtest node in Tasmania, your traffic is being forced to hop over and then back?
Here’s mine to California:
That is a legitimate rescue, not a theft, imo. She did call the council and nothing happened. If the RSPCA was not so bloody useless, sitting on millions while the services they offer are inadequate, they could have taken the animal into care and handled it legally, including charging the owner with neglect.
confessions. @ #903 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 7:28 pm
By the way the Senate recount that would get really messy, if it happened, would be one for either McKim or Whish-Wilson in Tasmania. Because of McKim’s tiny margin and the huge BTL votes for both there’s a high chance that a recount for either would throw the Greens’ #2 seat to One Nation, but to say for certain if it would or not one would need to do a full simulation.
Even the disqualification of a non-Greens Tassie senator from the 2016 election could in theory unseat a Green although then the High Court would have to decide whether this was allowed as per the Caiafa case in Melbourne or not.
C@tmomma @ #918 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:10 pm
They aren’t the quickest to get you connected, but they are a good proponent of pushing high speed internet, they do not offer a plan slower than 100/40 and are pushing for gigabit (1000) to be widespread.
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/myrepublic-has-a-year-to-make-1gbps-nbn-plans-work-469477
Thanks Zeh. Appears better on Chrome.
a r @ #919 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:10 pm
This is probably to do with the ‘gaming’ package I have with them, they claim lower latencies. Most game servers that actually exist in Aus are in Sydney…
Puff:
My view too. We need tougher laws to protect domestic animals as far as I’m concerned.
Re the ‘stolen’ dog – left without food and water for two weeks. The ‘owner’ should be charged with animal cruelty, get a fair trial then go directly to jail, not passing go and not collecting $200.
Zeh. I’m on my phone and it seems to be fiddly to get images. It might be easier on the pc. I’ll try it later. Out of curiosity how did you get California? I only seem to be able to select oz and our nearest pacific neighbors.
I am with you on that one. The courts are damned useless, too.
confessions @ #925 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 7:46 pm
And live on bread and water for two weeks, it would be more than the dog got.
the poor thing would’ve been dead by the time the owner returned. I don’t go out without leaving food and water in case I end up in a car accident and in hospital. They could live for at least a fornight till my family got to them.
Steve777 @ #926 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 7:49 pm
Zeh @ #924 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:16 pm
Indeed, first hop is into sydney, then on to melbourne
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2 103-217-164-58.myrepublic.net (103.217.164.58) 73.270 ms 73.426 ms 73.307 ms
3 asn9310.bdr04.syd03.nsw.vocus.net.au (49.255.206.106) 74.553 ms 74.636 ms 76.513 ms
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Steve777:
I’ve been known to corral supermarket security guards to intervene when I’ve seen dogs heat stressed in cars in the supermarket carpark. I’m totally down with a neighbour ‘stealing’ their neighbour’s dog which was abandoned for 2 weeks in order to ensure it had proper care. I mean who goes on holiday for 2 weeks without ensuring their pet has proper care? That’s abuse and neglect in anyone’s language as far as I’m concerned.
Given there is speculation that Malcolm Roberts could be Indian, British or Australian it is appropriate we demand Empirical evidence of his citizenship!
Zeh,
If MyRepublic are good for Gaming then they are good enough for me!…she says as she slinks off to play some more Spelunky.
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Esp without water.
GG
We desired British Empire evidence.
Good on you Confessions.
And it is not hard to put a dish under a dripping tap to make sure there is water there all the time, and an automatic water dish is less than a hundred bucks.
Greensborough Growler @ #932 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:30 pm
Perhaps we will find it in here?
GG
India does not allow dual citizenship. The relevant ship’s manifest has Robert’s citizenship as UK.
Boerwar @ #940 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:34 pm
Does it allow tri-ciizenship?
Puff:
Or alternatively professional pet sitters abound these days. We even have them in regional WA and I’ve used their services when I’ve had to go away for work to ensure my baby wasn’t inconvenienced by my absence. And they aren’t expensive either.
Zeh @ #939 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:34 pm
Is that the Soveriegn Citizen edition?
Aqualung @ #819 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 6:39 pm
https://youtu.be/YCRxnjE7JVs
lizzie @ #824 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 4:44 pm
Labour should hold a Royal Commission into this at the first opportunity and use the outcome of it to bash the L/NP and the farmer’s unions as relentlessly as the L/NP have gone after unions. We need to destroy their reputation!
The RSPCA has jurisdiction to enter into private property and remove animals in peril in NSW.
Surely that is the case elsewhere?
Barnaby’s pub remarks just remind me of Abbott.
Say what ever you think the audience want to hear irrespective of contrary comments you may have made elsewhere on the same day.
And of course the truth has no consideration.
The pub remarks are probably what he really thinks, but stupidly didn’t think, or maybe deliberately hoping, they would get out the room.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-27/murray-darling-basin-plan-investigation-a-calamity,-joyce-says/8749620
Greensborough Growler @ #941 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:39 pm
shellbell:
Obviously not:
http://www.communitynews.com.au/weekend-courier/news/rockingham-woman-given-good-behaviour-bond-after-stealing-neighbours-dog-to-care-for-it/
Big thanks to Zeh and AR for restoring the combination of chronological order and pages (as an option). Now much easier to follow the discussion.
One tiny issue. When loading a new page it doesn’t go to the top of the new page, but about 3-4 comments down.
What they can do, and what they will do are two different things.
shellbell @ #1582 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 8:13 pm
I know Barnaby has taken over Canavan’s portfolio in the interim but who have the Nats got to come into the Ministry?