The second fortnightly federal voting intention poll by YouGov for Fifty Acres records a three point increase in the Coalition primary vote, now at 36%, with Labor down one to 33%, the Greens steady on 12% and One Nation steady on 7%. The combined vote for all other parties is down two to 12%, making it slightly less unusual than that score than Newspoll and Essential Research, who respectively have it at 8% and 10%. However, what’s very unusual is a respondent-allocated two-party preferred result that gives the Coalition a lead of 52-48, the reverse of what the result would be if 2016 preference flows were used, as per the other pollsters. I don’t quite have the confidence to lead a post with “52-48 to Coalition” based such an unorthodox reading, so I’ll be using primary votes for my YouGov headlines for the time being.
The poll also found 60% support for same-sex marriage, with 28% opposed; health and hospitals were rated the most important election issue by 45%, followed by pensions on 33% and job security and unemployment on 31%; 56% supportive of a tax on companies that used robots to fund support for those who lost jobs as a result; and 54% expressing concern at indigenous languages falling into disuse, but only 33% believing the government should do anything about it. The poll was conducted online from Thursday to Tuesday, with a sample of a little over 1000.
UPDATE: The Australia Institute has published results of a poll conducted in South Australia by ReachTEL, which shows (after allocating the forced response question from the 7.1% undecided) federal voting intention in the state at 34.3% for the Liberals (down 0.8% on last year’s election), 32.1% for Labor (up 0.6%), 14.9% for the Nick Xenophon Team (down 6.4%), 6.6% for the Greens (up 0.4%), 4.6% for One Nation (didn’t field lower house candidates) and 3.9% for Australian Conservatives (unchanged on the Family First vote). There’s also a separate question on Senate voting intention, and while I have my doubts about such an exercise, it has the Liberals on 30.1% (down 2.5%), Labor on 26.1% (down 1.2%), the Nick Xenophon Team on 21.7% (unchanged), the Greens on 8.2% (up 2.3%), One Nation on 4.8% (up 1.8%) and Australian Conservatives on 5.2% (up 2.3% on the Family First vote, for the most encouraging poll result the party has yet received).
The poll also records strong support for the ABC, with 40.4% wanting its funding increased, 33.4% kept as is and only 17.5% reduced; 64.8% opposed to the government cutting funding to the ABC to get support on relaxed media ownership laws from One Nation, with 16.5% supportive; and 56.3% supportive of a strong online presence for the ABC “even if it effects the commercial viability of commercial media outlets”, with 16.4% opposed (the anti-ABC numbers across the three questions being notably similar). The automated phone poll was conducted from 1589 respondents on June 29.
Damn you crikey get your act together and recognise universally accepted emojis. Once done less work for your techies too.
Adrian:
How unsurprisement.
Murphy has lost me again. She just said Turnbull wasn’t looking for a fight in London??? Perhaps not, and that is exactly what made his comments so I’ll advised.
She is as stupid as Turnbull if she doesn’t understand how what he said in London would be interpreted.
FYI
(top hat emoji) Turnbull makes speech in London about LNP philosophy while cutting penalty rates and giving tax breaks to MNC’s*
*Indian term I am adopting for Multinational Corporations
Bishop already is being used as a profile boost in WA but she is only the front person. Real power in the WA Liberals is exercised by Cormann and Collier viz two people Bishop supposedly supported to replace Chris Back in the Senate didn’t even get to the line whilst Cormann’s man is the front runner
Grimace it’s funny you should say that. It’s probably a good thing we don’t have a HR dept where I work as my co-worker often calls me sweetie. Hate to see her in trouble. Actually she says it to just about everyone she talks to. Strangely nobody seems to take offence. Not sure that would work with asshole.
Question:
Yep, Farr saw right through Turnbull’s speech even though Murphy and Savva saw something more benign.
Grog argues that the current cricket dispute is a great advertisement for workers to join a Union.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2017/jul/16/australian-crickets-pay-dispute-is-a-wonderful-ad-for-joining-a-union
gruntat: #Auspol
Mal refuses to answer a simple question “why is a payment to #Lnp by big biz not a corrupting influence but a payment to a Union is”
C@
That ‘dialog with China’ that we’re said to be having will be about ratification of the extradition treaty.
If we ratified it we would be saying that we believe their legal system is fair.
Turnbull was prepared to do this when even Tones didn’t try. He just hoped the Chinese would give up. BishJnr and Turnbull tried to ‘stitch’ up as being a supporter but Abbott still had a briefing note he’d been given
When PM on which he’d written on it WTTE ‘Do nothing’.
He took some skin off Turnbull & BishJnr by producing it.
C@
That ‘dialog with China’ that we’re said to be having will be about ratification of the extradition treaty.
If we ratified it we would be saying that we believe their legal system is fair.
Turnbull was prepared to do this when even Tones didn’t try. He just hoped the Chinese would give up. BishJnr and Turnbull tried to ‘stitch’ up as being a supporter but Abbott still had a briefing note he’d been given
When PM on which he’d written on it WTTE ‘Do nothing’.
He took some skin off Turnbull & BishJnr by producing it.
Kevjohnno
It’s the context and the previous ‘relationship’ that counts.
Savva is right on what is going to happen with marriage equality at NSW conference. The right wing will walk away.
Bye bye LNP party. Will LNP have the numbers to govern?
I missed the first bit of Savva’s final observation about a compromise put forward by Leeser and Hawke. Was she talking about the plebiscite on SSM?
Fess
Yes. A compromise for a free vote from sounds of it
Thanks Guytaur. Will be interesting to see how that pans out, esp as the moderates have a way more stronger voice in the NSW Libs than in the federal Libs.
Fess
From the sounds of it Sinodinos must have told THE* to call the right wing bluff including the Nats agreement on marriage equality. Thus the comment from Savva Turnbull should have made the London speech early on.
*Top Hat Emoji
It’s interesting that (some) men who claim not to be sexist and say they recognise that sexism exists, don’t seem to be able to recognise a single example of sexism.
Zoomster
I think Savva is not a man. I think her comments were for politics rather than defending the sexism of Jones and pointing out that he is just a bully really
I understand that Lizzie. Just about any word can be used in an insulting or condescending way.
2ManyAustriches: Breaking: #insiders to be renamed to
#LIBSIDERS
and it’s all ‘Labors Fault’ hey Barry ?
P A T H E T I C #theirABC
These tweets are no longer seeming ridiculous and gaining ground in numbers
I see Kevjohnno hasn’t addressed the points I made about his apologia for Bemused. Probably because he can’t. However, may I just address the points he raises against Grimace(not that I believe Grimace can’t)? Also, as Lizzie points out, it’s the context of one co-worker who calls ‘just about everyone she talks to sweetie’, doing it, that is, with no particular reflection upon a person’s gender, compared with the context which we are talking about here where Bemused quite obviously chose to use the term ‘sweetie’ in a menacing, condescending and derogatory fashion to a woman he has form with.
Sorry, Kevjohnno, but a semantic and too-cute-by-half argument in support of Bemused’s behaviour, for which he has plenty of form with respect to Confessions and other women here, even if, as he often opines, people say hurtful things to him, is just not going to cut it from you or him.
Context. Is. Everything. Obviously something Mr Bowe recognised but you have failed to.
Guytaur:
One of the reasons I don’t mind Insiders using non journo panelists like Savva is because you get genuine insider titbits from the Liberal party.
Kevjohnno – if you don’t understand the difference between a woman calling a man “sweetie” (which she probably means as a term of endearment), and a man calling a woman the same (equivalent to a man calling a grown woman a “girl” – indisputably sexist) then you are blinded by your gender privilege.
Fess
As long as Insiders label her as such I agree. They should have someone from Labor Herald to balance her though.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/privatising-abc-national-space-agency-hot-topics-at-lnp-conference-20170715-gxc0dv.html
poroti @ #1086 Sunday, July 16th, 2017 – 9:29 am
Yes, the deal “continues” within the context of Trump’s annual refugee quota. So they’ll be back sometime next year to start assessing claims again, and move just slowly enough to have the quota be filled before they actually accept a single one.
As I’m aware of Savva’s sex, guytaur, obviously I wasn’t referring to her.
Bemused
Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 8:52 am
[William Bowe
Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 3:49 am
After much careful reflection, I’ve decided that no woman who comes here should ever have to put up with being addressed as “sweetie”. If Bemused doesn’t offer Confessions an unreserved apology that’s untainted in any way by self-justification or smart-arsery, I’m going to ban him.]
I apologise unreservedly for, on one occasion, referring to Confessions as ‘sweetie’.
I know William is extremely fair and I now look forward to grovelling apologies from those who continually heap abuse on me, notably among them, Confessions and Briefly.
I think this fails the smart-arsery provision, in several ways.
‘fess
[is because you get genuine insider titbits from the Liberal party.]
Agree on this.
That a lot of stuff she talks about is quite bizarre is a view into the thinking of the “moderate group” of the Liberal Party.
zoomster
That was the only sexism that was referred to on Insiders this morning I am aware of. I was adding to your comment not disputing it.
Rhetorical Q:
Why does Insiders never have Paul Bongiorno ..or Greg Jericho ..or Stephen Koukoulas ..or Steven Long ..or Alan Kohler ..or Michael West ..or any of the excellent non-NewsLtd journos writing in Australia?
Just for ..you know ..BALANCE!!
zoomster
I do admit the Savva is not a man was a bit cheeky on my part
https://meanjin.com.au/essays/political-life/
This is the link to Katharine Murphy’s essay on the life of politicians.
Thought provoking, in the sense that it’s only a certain type who can survive.
Fess, Savva IS a journalist
Insiders is currently a cosy, exclusive club for journos who’s opinions we all know, and frankly aren’t worth a pinch of salt..
Really the set should have them gossiping over a garden fence ..or sitting around a pub table ..or in front of an open fire surrounded by dark oak paneling..
Mark, your list of journalists are specialists and some of them NOT technically journalists but commentators. Insiders are supposedly CPG types.
Briefly
It’s the pretence at ‘humour’ that gets me.
Mark, only West and Bongiorno are actual journalists
I don’t think I would make a good politician, precisely what did Bishop mean, when she said they would run a ‘principled and pragmatic’ foreign policy.
The report in the Sun Herald today, have Pyne wanting Australia to be a ‘major arms exporter’, what is it with this government, coal, arms what next ?
That is true. But it is also interesting that some women seem to think it only goes in one direction.
If we are really serious about wanting a society based on equality and dignity for all, we need to recognise sexism (ie. ‘prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, on the basis of sex’) in all of its forms. Women have certainly borne the brunt of it over the last few decades in the fight for emancipation, but that does not mean – or should not mean – that men are now fair game. ‘Equality’ means just that. Equal treatment for all.
briefly @ #1129 Sunday, July 16th, 2017 – 10:38 am
I am sure WB can see it for what it is. Best to leave it to him to sort.
ABC current affairs is now entrenched as another arm of the Liberal propaganda machine..
..730 ..Insiders ..Lateline ..even Q&A used to provide refreshing insights into Aussie politics & social/environmental/economic issues. Not any more!!
Is she? I thought she just wrote opinion columns for the Oz and appeared periodically on Sky News.
John Reidy
I’ve been waiting for someone to comment on Pyne’s sudden desire to be a major arms exporter. Small man who likes big guns? Why on earth, at this time when things are getting more dangerous, would he want to put a toe into this muddy water? (Except for profits, of course.)
Young LNP President Mitchell Collier introduced the first resolution calling for the privatisation of the ABC, saying it was a waste of taxpayer money and there was “no need for a public broadcaster”.
Am I correct to presume that Mitchell Collier is the son of the leader of the WA ‘Lame Gay Churchy Loser’ faction of the Liberal Party, Peter Collier?
Am I also correct to presume that the Collier family is the same ones who are very wealthy as a result of the fact of owning this?
Perth Real Estate – Colliers International
Yep. Real, salt-of-the-earth representatives of the plebs, eh?
Talk about a tangled wed with the Russians. The connections are far more than just developers helping each other out.
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/41281-trump-is-a-cornered-animal-and-cornered-animals-are-dangerous
Fess Savva is probably technically retired form full time journalism, she’s been around since the Whitlam era, I think.
zoomster @ #1118 Sunday, July 16th, 2017 – 10:13 am
I try not to be sexist. However, I do fall short from time to time. Sometimes we all engage our mouths before thinking. It’s just the way we are wired I suppose.
GG
Wow I agree with you on bemused. Best leave it to the moderator. 🙂