GhostWhoVotes reports that the first Nielsen poll of the year for the Fairfax papers shows the Coalition leading 52-48 on two-party preferred, its first lead in a telephone poll since November and a reversal of the result in the previous Nielsen poll of November 21-23. The primary votes are 44% for the Coalition (up three), 33% for Labor (down four) and 12% for the Greens (up one). More to follow.
UPDATE: Personal ratings corroborate Newspoll in finding Bill Shorten’s strong early figures vanishing he’s down eleven points on approval to 40%, and up ten on disapproval to 40% while Tony Abbott is little changed at 45% (down two) and 47% (up one). Also reflecting Newspoll, this has made little difference to the preferred prime minister result, with Abbott’s lead up only slightly from 49-41 to 49-39.
UPDATE 2: Full details including state and gender breakdowns.
I see other liberals like Mick has returned to defend Morroscum’s actions on Detention Centers.
@delimiterau: Liberals admit: Turnbull CBN plan could lose Tasmanian election http://t.co/tGS6YULQAi
Fran #1286 I could have accepted a not guilty verdict if Thomson had got off on some technicality such as the prosecutor messing up the charges. However it would have been much harder to accept that the behaviour that went on in the HSU was found to be legal.
jeffemu
[I think Ms Jackson will make Thomson look like a choirboy if she ever has the opportunity to tell all about her HSU income and expenditure]
I don’t know and as odious as her politics seem to be, Ms Jackson too deserves the presumption of innocence. I’d like to see these matters properly investigated so that the HSU really can claim to be entirely above board.
[The fact that a Liberal Senator from SA was brought to court for shop-lifting (theft) at around the same time was put down to the stress of the job and was basically hit by a tap on the wrist is in stark contrast.]
FFS. First her offence was trivial by comparison, second she was suffering from a mental illness, and third she acknowledged the offence and resigned from the Senate. I hate to be in the position of defending Liberals, but that really is an idiotic post.
[Antony Green @AntonyGreenABC ·2 mins
It has been an enormous news day and it
Is only noon]
apparently a looong judgement by the Court of Disputed Returns..
Thomson being found guilty will help Abbotts spin about the RC.
deblonay @ 1283
Back to your bat-cave you terrorist-loving Jew-hating moron.
William: I still had this “free-kick” on deblonay’s anti-semitic a**e owing from months back you’ll recall and I think you were going to close him down if he re-started his Jew-hate rants. When I look through his recent posts while I’ve been away little seems to have changed and he’s unrepentant and a day or two back was also into racial slurs calling insurance fire fraud “Jewish lightening”. He’s a nice piece of work but he only hates Zionists remember (ie 99% of Jews)… and he brought it up, not me.
High Court orders fresh WA Senate election.
Well well, Thomson is guilty. Looks like I was right – and definitely right to believe we shouldn’t be running to defend him.
I wonder if the grouchy, loud-mouthed hacks on here will learn a lesson from this that if it smells like shit it probably is shit, and not everything is a massive conspiracy to bring down the pure-at-heart ALP.
[as odious as her politics seem to be]
What does that mean?
@Psephos/1305
Explain the lack of judgement of Politicians like Tony Abbott used Tax Payer Money for his private stuff?
This is why it sickens me that one side get’s all the shit.
[Retweeted by Shane Bazzi
Sky News Australia @SkyNewsAust ·32 secs
BREAKING NEWS: The high court rules #WAsenate vote was invalid and orders a fresh Senate election.]
[High Court orders fresh WA Senate election.]
and it will be a barrel of fun!
Not sure where the six guilty transactions comes from? The magistrate refers to perhaps six types of offences but also refers to plurals withing those offences. I think the six transactions claim may be incorrect.
Pseph 1305
Well said.
The difference between the Pollie rorts from very early in this government’s time and Thomson appear to be where the money came from.
Tax payer for the conservatives and union members for Thomson.
Neither provide a pretty picture and it is a point of debate whether it is more heinous to use unions funds for sexual pleasure, or tax payer funds to attend football matches, private weddings and check out some property issues.
No moral high ground for anyone I would have thought?
[Thomson being found guilty will help Abbotts spin about the RC.]
So it should. I am actually in the mindset that some sort of external investigation should go ahead. As long as it’s not just for political point-scoring, is substantive and is objective.
A fresh WA senate election gives the ALP a massive opportunity to run a campaign focusing on Coalition deceit, lies and UNFAIRNESS.
The leadership really needs to step up NOW.
For Labor Thomson decision today is great timing.
WA election.
AFP raiding 7 and New Idea
Asylum Seeker death
Thomson is a footnote to that
@Carey/1318
Well your wrong, it will be used for political point scoring.
[Explain the lack of judgement of Politicians like Tony Abbott used Tax Payer Money for his private stuff?]
Thomson’s actions were not a lack of judgement, or an careless misuse of entitlement, or even deliberate misuse of taxpayers’ money. They were calculated and cold-blooded theft of a large amount of money, paid as union dues by working-class people who expected their union to act in their interests.
Hmmm poor Tony can’t do anything until after the WA Senate election now. The nasties will have to wait until after.
Fran 1304
[I’d like to see these matters properly investigated so that the HSU really can claim to be entirely above board.]
Don’t worry there will be.
There is a RC that will focus the unions.
[High Court orders fresh WA Senate election.]
Oh yay.
So how soon? I assume the minimal constitutional process still applies, so by my calculations, the soonest it can be held is 29 March. And I imagine you don’t want to leave it much later.
Does anyone know when the Court will decide on the Peter Slipper case?
ruawake
You are predicting a date before the budget?
Trouble with the politicians travel claims is that under the current guidelines it is basically legal rorting. If you get caught then you get to repay the amounts.
[Well your wrong]
If you’re going to be condescending to me, at least spell “you’re” correctly.
P@1305
There you go again Oh Great Arbiter on PB.
While you have some useful things to say here, your pomposity is a sight to behold.
And “FFS”, if you have to drop to this “idiotic” language, why don’t you start up a blog of your own so your own right-wing, DLP certitudes can gain a wider audience.
I don’t now which is worse, the late and lamented – in the sin-bin S, or your lofty and know-it-all (you think) supercilious contributions.
You do not have the sole font of wisdom, wit or knowledge here, though I suppose you like to think so.
Does that make you any less wrong Carey? 🙂 Not saying you were wrong 😉
Zoid, 1305 only outlined the diff between the sa senators shoplifting and Thomson.
@smurray38: Text of judgment of High Court overturning WA Senate result, ordering fresh election https://t.co/FTIdNJEjJD #auspol
@Psephos/1322
Of course, I never said that Thompson should have used, since being a member of a union has privileges, and thus those were broken.
We also have things like Former Telstra board members have shares in Telstra, who are on NBN Board – creating conflict of interest (Justin Milne).
[You are predicting a date before the budget?]
I would assume the WA election would have to be concluded by 1 July. The Budget may be smack bang in the middle.
“@SimonThomsen: Breaking: AFP finds Craig Thomson hid WA Senate ballots at Channel 7 in a boogie board bag”
@Carey/1329
Oh dear, I’m being accused of patronizing someone.
[Not sure where the six guilty transactions comes from? The magistrate refers to perhaps six types of offences but also refers to plurals withing those offences. I think the six transactions claim may be incorrect.]
David all I can find about numbers is this
[Mr Rozencwajg dismissed 13 charges relating to Mr Thomson charging pornographic movies to his hotel room, paid for by the HSU, as he said he could not be satisfied Mr Thomson had been dishonest about his conduct.]
So we know 13 charges have been dropped out of 140 odd.
Tricot
Your attack on Psephos reveals your ignorance. He’s a sane Labor rusted-on. There aren’t many, certainly not here.
[Oh dear, I’m being accused of patronizing someone.]
And found guilty…
Geoff I think that was from an article in the Australian so it will be discounted as a source here on PB. 🙂 Having said that it certainly seems from the ruling that more charges were upheld than were dismissed. As I said I’m not sure where the six transactions claim came from as I can’t see any reference to that claim anywhere.
“@SabraLane: It seems the High Court has ruled the WA senate result void: But is yet to rule what will happen…”
Mick@1339
Well, if that is as good as your opinion gets, most of us here have you pretty well sorted out.
Speaks highly of both of you I guess…something about ‘as much as I hate supporting the Liberals….blah blah…” and now you joining the cheer squad.
I am surprised you don’t start a fan club for each other.
“@lenoretaylor: High Court has rejected the argument it can decide the WA result but has reserved final decision until Thursday”
David haha I know but it is the only one I can find at the moment that actually has some numbers…
[We also have things like ] etc etc etc
Yes but we don’t excuse A by pointing to B.
Besides which, as an ALP member, I expect a higher standard of conduct from union officials and Labor MPs than I expect from Tony Abbott, Mary-Jo Fisher, business executives or other low-lifes. I expect them to steal and cheat and lie, because that’s what people like that always do. I DON’T expect Labor people to steal money from their own supporters, and when they do I get VERY ANGRY about it, because they are betraying me, betraying all Labor voters and union members, and betraying the values we and they are supposed to be upholding. I guess that’s very “right-wing and DLP-ish” of me. *expectorates*
Monster news day
WA Senate election
Ch 7 and New Idea Corby raid
Manus riot and death
Thomson guilty
Great day to rush out a few unpopular policies.
Quick and dirty post on the WA Senate situation:
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2014/02/18/high-court-paves-way-for-fresh-wa-senate-election/
diog
Also of course more job loss from Alcoa
A WTF moment.
[SEVEN’S commercial director Bruce McWilliam says a senior Abbott Government minister has called him to apologise for the raid at his network this morning.
He is furious more than 20 AFP officers barged into the offices of Channel Seven at Pyrmont and New Idea to examine their paperwork and correspondence with the Corby family.]
Which Minister called and what was he apologising for, get your grubby mitts off the AFP.