UPDATE 2 (Essential Research poll): The latest Essential Research fortnightly rolling average is unchanged on last week with the Coalition on 44%, Labor on 35% and the Greens on 9%, with the Coalition leading 53-47 on two-party preferred. The poll finds only 28% rating the new government’s handling of asylum seekers as good versus 40% for poor; 65% considering a budget surplus important for the country versus 27% for not important, which becomes 52% and 38% when framed as important to the respondent personally; 12% thinking the government will probably deliver a surplus in its first year versus 68% who think it probably won’t; and 37% thinking it will do so within three years, in line with its promise, against 40% who think it won’t. Also featured are questions on issues of concern and the best party to handle them, which show across-the-board improvement for the Coalition since immediately before the election, reduced concern about the budget surplus (presumably because Coalition supporters have become less inclined to nominate it as a problem) and increased concern about interest rates.
UPDATE (Morgan poll): The fortnightly Morgan multi-mode poll has the Coalition up a point to 42.5%, Labor down 2.5% to 32.5%, the Greens up half a point to 11% and the Palmer United Party down half a point to 5%. The respondent-allocated two-party preferred moves from 50-50 to 51-49 in favour of the Coalition.
The Courier-Mail has today reported findings on federal voting intention from the Queensland poll for which state voting intention results appeared yesterday. The Coalition holds a two-party preferred lead of 56-44, which compares with what will probably be about 57-43 once two-party figures from Kennedy and Fairfax are finally included in the Australian Electoral Commission’s statewide election result. Primary votes from the poll are 46% for the Liberal National Party (45.7% at the election), 30% for Labor (29.8%), 8% for the Palmer United Party (11.0%), 7% for the Greens (6.2%), 3% for Katter’s Australian Party (3.7%) and 6% for others (3.6%). Dennis Atkins of the Courier-Mail wisely notes that the missing Palmer United Party support “might not have disappeared altogether, as it appears to have gone to the ‘others’”, which is up from 3.6% to 6%. The poll was conducted last Tuesday and Wednesday from a sample of 800. Also featured:
• Sixty-three per cent of respondents, including 32% of Labor and 89% of LNP supporters, oppose Labor holding up the carbon tax abolition bills in the Senate. Twenty-nine per cent are in favour, including 59% of Labor and 6% of LNP supporters.
• Fifty-nine per cent think the government “too secretive” on boat arrivals, compared with 36% who disagree. The splits are 86-10 among Labor and 31-63 among LNP supporters.
• Forty-two per cent still feel the government has not done enough to stop asylum seekers, compared with 43% who say it has done enough. The high “not enough” rating seems in large part down to reflexively negative responses from Labor supporters, who split 55% to 28%, while LNP supporters split 33% to 58%.
• Fifty-two per cent say the new government has met expectations, 6% say it has been better, and 36% say it hasn’t been as good (74-9-14 among LNP supporters, 34-3-56 for Labor supporters).
muttleymcgee@3095
Why is it you remind me of a rabid dog chasing its tail and barking frantically?
BW
[There is, in fact, a near certainty that Abbott has either been a minister in a Government that spied a lot on Indonesia and/or has been Prime Minister of a government that spied on Indonesia. After all, in Abbott’s eyes, Operation Sovereign Borders just has to be a good enough excuse to spy on anybody and everybody.]
Exactly. Thanks BW.
Which point escapes TA completely. He is incapable of anything that is not black or white.
sprocket:
Textor still ranting at Fairfax, the Guardian and the ABC.
Tlbd
[hat would be Marty and not Julie?]
That way around!
“Why is it you remind me of a rabid dog chasing its tail and barking frantically?”
Delusion?
Medication?
Sh!t on the liver?
All of the above?
Another liberal hack,
btw, who has connections on the NBN Board:
Jonathan Swan @jonathanvswan 3h
Update: Henry Ergas said he had handed out Liberal how-to-vote cards at the recent election, but said his Coalition connections …(1/2)
Jonathan Swan @jonathanvswan 3h
would have no bearing on his ability to give independent advice if he were appointed to the NBN panel. http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-to-include-labor-critic-on-nbn-panel-20131120-2xuqu.html … (2/2)
Henry Ergas is far from Independent.
Oh FFS! Can commenters either install Musrum’s little helper and block the odious bemused from their PB feed, or learn to just ignore him.
Engaging with him only encourages more of his belligerent abuse, and serves only to lower the tone of this place. It’s been a blissful few days with his enforced absence, so imagine what PB would look like if fewer people responded to him, leaving him with nothing to say at all.
Malcolm Fraser calls for Textor’s sacking as a coalition advisor.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/abusive-tweets-from-top-liberal-party-pollster-20131120-2xvwb.html#ixzz2lBGVh0wf
Boerwar
I had a brush with the DSD in the 1980’s . At the time I was in the building game and we were doing a strip out refurb on a posh hotel in Perth’s CGB.
At the top of the building was a large utilities room that we had to go through to the roof top. Amongst the boring old aircon etc stuff was a bank of high tech looking flashing lights electronic kit. It had lots of DSD labels but the name did not mean anything to us. We did however ask WTF was all this high tech stuff doing in a hotel.
After later learning who the DSD was and what they did I had two questions a) What were they doing and b) How fecked is the security that we could have stolen or done whatever we wanted with the equipment.
It is impossible for the Indonesians to have missed a quite basic element of Abbott: he hangs around with islamophobes. He has overt burka baiters in his Party. He gets himself interviewed with people like Jones. Etc, etc, etc.
It has been perfectly obvious that the Indonesians are using the spying scandal to work through a few issues: Abbott’s, Bishop’s and Morrison’s serial bombastic arrogance. Only a fool would believe that the Indonesians haven’t got shit on the liver because of the sorts of people Abbott hangs round with.
Textor has a colour-filled history in the NT, as any close observer of NT election tactics would know.
He now sees fit to pour petrol on troubled waters.
Abbott should publicly disavow the comments of a person who has been an integral part of Liberal election campaigning. He should disavow Bernarid and turf him out of the Party. He should never again associate with Jones. He should sack that Burka-baiting sex appeal MP from the Party.
Abbott should do all of these things in the national interest.
[Liberal Party pollster Mark Textor published a succession of abusive comments]
This is the mindset of the Abbott liberals… a bunch of drunk rednecks in the grandstand yelling abuse at the visiting non Australian team.
confessions @ 3108 Snap!
Our PM this eve….
“”I want to express here in this chamber, my deep and sincere regret about the embarrassment to the President and to Indonesia that’s been caused by recent media reporting,” Mr Abbott said in a speech to Parliament on Wednesday evening.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/indonesian-president-sby-orders-end-to-cooperation-over-people-smuggling-20131120-2xvit.html#ixzz2lBIept57
is this the most inept and stupid statement from a serving Australian PM. It’s amateur hour stuff, compounding the original error. SBYs embarrassment ??????
Meanwhile in Victoria, the Labor opposition is planning to include the removal of 50 level crossings as part of its Public Transport policy for the next election.
Predictably, the Libs are heaping scorn on this. A good thing for Labor I think.
40 level crossings to be targeted have been announced, but a further 10 have still to be identified.
This is a good move but at least 50 years after it should have happened.
[Abbott should do all of these things in the national interest.]
The Idiot does not have the national interest at heart.
“Abbott should do all of these things in the national interest.”
Absolutely right but there is no chance at all. Which is the problem.
I wonder if it was Textor tried to make Abbott look good locally, but forgotten about Indonesia?
But what Textor didn’t realise is that Abbott is already doing a poor job on Asylum Seekers already.
poroti
I may or may not have had one or two experiences with some sort of organisation as well but I have forgotten all about it because they never happened. My lips are 100% stitched together and there is a vacuum where my frontal lobes used to be.
I knew nothing. I know nothing. I will know nothing.
@Ducky/3115
Vested interests yes, National no.
Since Abbott’s latest statement in the parliament, SBY has made further comments via his twitterfeed. Although not translated into English, some on twitter are saying that SBY is even more angry with Abbott
https://mobile.twitter.com/SBYudhoyono
Hey Bemused, welcome back…
v
I am not a tweeterator. Do you know whether that screen shot shows that SBY has four million followers?
[some on twitter are saying that SBY is even more angry with Abbott]
I know I am.
Boerwar
Yep it does indeed indicate that SBY has 4 million followers
Boerwar
As long as you tell me via non electronic channels you’ll be OK 🙂
.
confessions
They would never sack Textor. He represents the current core of the Liberal Party base.
v
There was public commentary (yesterday?) in Indonesia that Abbott showed disrespect by using the Australian Parliament as a forum for responding to SBY’s complaint.
I don’t understand it. But if part of the complaint has become that Abbott used the wrong means of communications, repeating the wrong means of communication tonight is hardly to be advised, unless you are intent on throwing petrol on the fire.
victoria:
Any egs?
I doubt whether all this stuff with Indonesia will shift one vote to the Opposition in the short term.
Abbott is playing the thumping chest – “we don’t apologise to little brown men” stuff which resonates well out in red neck land.
However, within just weeks his pathetic inability to read the political climate in Indonesia says it all.
There is more chest thumping to come on both sides.
It is amazing how our local red necks reckon we can take the Indons on and somehow put them down.
The simple thing to do, for Abbott, is to go to Indonesia and talk to them.
Face is everything but then Abbott is too up himself to get this.
Tony Abbott may shortly have that many followers, with hatchets.
v
thanks.
Poroti
A lot of ordinary Government communications equipment contained encryption chips supplied by DSD and were labelled. Could have been a microwave relay on the roof.
poroti:
I was reading today that the Sheepens have become the first country in the world to legislate for a ‘legally high’ definition.
The bill was passed 119-1 in favour. Wonder who the dissenter was?
Boerwar
As posited earlier maybe Abbott is being deliberately provocative. Nothing else bloody well makes sense
Rossmore@3121
Ta. Nice to be missed.
Your post @ 3113 was right on the money – I was nearly going to comment on it earlier.
I just cannot believe how inept Abbott is, given the excellent advice that would be available to him.
Work of our PM
Jane Cattermole @janecat60 14m
“Crush Australia” is trending on Indonesian twitter ~ http://world.time.com/2013/11/20/indonesians-vent-fury-with-anti-aussie-hashtag-ganyangaustralia/ …. Via @SquigglyRick
Tony Abbott’s rattling sabres in our parliament would not have pleased SBY.
Thomas. Paine.@3111
Textor is jealous that he would never make it as a porn star.
Unless it involved something kinky with a Torana.
confessions@3127
sorry not sure what egs you are referring to?
poroti
[Boerwar
As long as you tell me via non electronic channels you’ll be OK]
Apparently the Indonesians are busy writing letters. The letters are being put into a canvas bag which will be thrown on board the next asylum seeker boat.
@Tricot/3128
The current polling already suggests that Abbott has done “poor” job with the issue.
TLBD
[Tony Abbott’s rattling sabres in our parliament would not have pleased SBY]
Abbott did not rattle sabres. He just repeated using a forum that had already been criticised as the incorrect forum for showing respect to SBY.
As I said above, I do not understand the point the Indonesians are trying to make with that one.
@BW/3122
I have screenshot too, even time/date stamp it.
[some on twitter are saying that SBY is even more angry with Abbott]
He has fired off 6 tweets in the last hour about ‘Straya.
https://twitter.com/SBYudhoyono
vic:
Sorry, examples of the translated tweets appearing on twitter.
[Zuvele Leschen @ZuveleLeschen 8m
Lodged my nomination for preselection for the Upper House seat of Northern Victoria today #springst]
Awesome. I wish her all the best.
Boerwar,
Quite right, not rattling sabres, just building a stone wall.
Perhaps we need to recruit Paul Keating to call SBY a recalcitrant? 🙂
‘Three steps would be waiting for official statement from the australian government.’
bemused@3114
Glen Huntly Station
Kooying Station
Gardiner Station
Ormond Station
McKinnon Station
Bentleigh Station
here are a few
‘3.
Need protocol or code of conduct, & guiding principle concerns cooperation in various fields to sustainability the two countries.’