UPDATE 2 (Essential Research poll): The latest Essential Research fortnightly rolling average is unchanged on last week with the Coalition on 44%, Labor on 35% and the Greens on 9%, with the Coalition leading 53-47 on two-party preferred. The poll finds only 28% rating the new government’s handling of asylum seekers as good versus 40% for poor; 65% considering a budget surplus important for the country versus 27% for not important, which becomes 52% and 38% when framed as important to the respondent personally; 12% thinking the government will probably deliver a surplus in its first year versus 68% who think it probably won’t; and 37% thinking it will do so within three years, in line with its promise, against 40% who think it won’t. Also featured are questions on issues of concern and the best party to handle them, which show across-the-board improvement for the Coalition since immediately before the election, reduced concern about the budget surplus (presumably because Coalition supporters have become less inclined to nominate it as a problem) and increased concern about interest rates.
UPDATE (Morgan poll): The fortnightly Morgan multi-mode poll has the Coalition up a point to 42.5%, Labor down 2.5% to 32.5%, the Greens up half a point to 11% and the Palmer United Party down half a point to 5%. The respondent-allocated two-party preferred moves from 50-50 to 51-49 in favour of the Coalition.
The Courier-Mail has today reported findings on federal voting intention from the Queensland poll for which state voting intention results appeared yesterday. The Coalition holds a two-party preferred lead of 56-44, which compares with what will probably be about 57-43 once two-party figures from Kennedy and Fairfax are finally included in the Australian Electoral Commission’s statewide election result. Primary votes from the poll are 46% for the Liberal National Party (45.7% at the election), 30% for Labor (29.8%), 8% for the Palmer United Party (11.0%), 7% for the Greens (6.2%), 3% for Katter’s Australian Party (3.7%) and 6% for others (3.6%). Dennis Atkins of the Courier-Mail wisely notes that the missing Palmer United Party support “might not have disappeared altogether, as it appears to have gone to the ‘others’”, which is up from 3.6% to 6%. The poll was conducted last Tuesday and Wednesday from a sample of 800. Also featured:
• Sixty-three per cent of respondents, including 32% of Labor and 89% of LNP supporters, oppose Labor holding up the carbon tax abolition bills in the Senate. Twenty-nine per cent are in favour, including 59% of Labor and 6% of LNP supporters.
• Fifty-nine per cent think the government “too secretive” on boat arrivals, compared with 36% who disagree. The splits are 86-10 among Labor and 31-63 among LNP supporters.
• Forty-two per cent still feel the government has not done enough to stop asylum seekers, compared with 43% who say it has done enough. The high “not enough” rating seems in large part down to reflexively negative responses from Labor supporters, who split 55% to 28%, while LNP supporters split 33% to 58%.
• Fifty-two per cent say the new government has met expectations, 6% say it has been better, and 36% say it hasn’t been as good (74-9-14 among LNP supporters, 34-3-56 for Labor supporters).
ruawake 3082
SBY wants an explanation on why Australia saw the need to tap his phone. Not an apology an explanation!
So how is this not about spying ???
confessions
There are no examples of translations, only that the tweets indicate further anger
I think the Indonesians are just working out that Abbott is only friendly when he wants something from you.
[Leroy @Leroy_Lynch 2m
Starting to think we’re in serious trouble here folks. Not the govt, I mean the country. Not armed conflict or the like, but real setbacks.]
The scale of damage the coalition could do, now that we’ve seen how they’ve handled this crisis with Indonesia, simply boggles one’s mind.
What else can they stuff up?
It’s time for Abbott to show some of his famous “people skills”. 😀
3.
Need protocol or code of conduct, & guiding principle concerns cooperation in various fields to sustainability the two countries.
@Confessions/3154
The budget, oh wait… There goes our export to Indonesia!
2.
Some cooperation agenda will be assessed reëxamined, exchange of information, intelligence & ri-australia, joint exercises & human trafficking issue
[SBY wants an explanation on why Australia saw the need to tap his phone. Not an apology an explanation!
]
Couldn’t we have just blamed the Americans….
bemused@3114
Glen Huntly Station
Kooyong Station
Ormond Station
Gardiner Station
McKinnon Station
Bentleigh Station
they are just for starters.
vic:
Okay, misunderstood your comment then.
Check this out:
[Indonesians Vent Fury With Anti-Aussie Hashtag: #GanyangAustralia
http://world.time.com/2013/11/20/indonesians-vent-fury-with-anti-aussie-hashtag-ganyangaustralia/ ]
1.
Indonesia waitin explanation australian & responsibility for the tapping.
New Senator Sam Dastayari is remarkably effective for a newbie. Smart, articulate, one to watch.
confessions
This headline shows the sheepens are going to hell in a hand basket. 🙂 What could be more important ?
[Airport worker fired for watching rugby]
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11160115
Boerwar,
This Oz government does not appear to want protocols or want to adhere to existing ones.
The above tweets translated by machine look comprehensible.
This one is a worry!!!
[President sby: we should take indictable hikmah of the past as energy in building the fathoms]
[Zuvele Leschen @ZuveleLeschen 8m
Lodged my nomination for preselection for the Upper House seat of Northern Victoria today]
Excellent news
[The budget, oh wait… There goes our export to Indonesia!]
SBY said today Indonesia would seek alternative trade relationships.
Have the Nationals said anything? Barnaby led the furore over the live cattle trade suspension from memory.
sprocket
I’m assuming you haven’t just seen the footage of Dastyari making this comment about Rees.
[“Mate, keep your d*** in your pants and your eye on the ball.”
]
Missed a lot of PB the last two days, is the general consensus that the issue with Indonesia is a minor quibble between the bestest of friends, or a bit of a cluster@#$*?
Yesiree Bob@3149
I read the complete list but a notable omission was Glenferrie Rd Kooyong.
The Kooyong location on the list referred to Toorak Rd.
IMHO, top of the list should be any level crossing where railway and tram tracks intersect. These are absolute abominations and trouble prone.
The Libs by their reaction may well have wedged themselves. They are saying it is unfunded. Labor should simply say we will fund it with borrowing if necessary, as the economic benefits will greatly exceed the costs.
The Lib reaction has amazed me.
poroti:
Those Sheepens! 😆
Ooops, looks like I have repeated my self there
Senate Estimates will be fun tomorrow.
DFAT will get to explain the Julie Bishop silence and Tony Abbott trashing relations with our nearest neighbor.
@Confessions/3168
I would be surprised if they were let out at all, Confessions.
So far, they have been very quiet.
So far every minister just about has been gagged.
There was a post earlier saying Bishop is to no longer be on Q&A. (I think it was).
Onya, Zoomster!!!!!
All the best!
TLBD
[Boerwar,
This Oz government does not appear to want protocols or want to adhere to existing ones.]
Abbott will be on his hands and knees. The Indonesians were pissed off with Abbott&Co aleady, but what to do and what to say? Then the deus ex machina delivered spying. They had their vehicle and they have used it and abused it. They are intent on delivering some of Abbott’s humiliating behaviour back to Abbott. Very determined.
So, Abbott put himself behind his own 8 ball.
He will take whatever is coming and do whatever is needed to stitch up what he can to save his precious boat policy.
Abbott will have delivered a significant blow to the national interest.
But wait… is there more? Will Snowden deliver to Abbott more daisy cutters?
Boerwar:
Are those bona fide translations of SBY’s tweets? If so, then thank you.
SBY clearly not backing away. This issue needs to be resolved now, or at least moved to behind closed doors.
zoidlord@3140
Yes, I saw that, but I also saw that the TPP had not shifted either.
At the moment all this stuff is just too far away from the day to day experience of most of the Oz electorate.
However, if the cheap holidays in Bali are under threat, who knows?
But then we keep being told that Bali is not Indonesia. However, if a few Bogans get into a fight up there, especially if it becomes kind of nationalistic stuff, then it will get interesting.
I gather some less that Oz friendly politicians are squaring up in Indonesia in the soon to be held elections.
We may yet see the Oz flag burned outside the Oz Embassy yet.
It will be all down to Abbott. If this point should come, then the downside of Abbott’s poor leadership will start to bit politically.
zoomster
Best wishes.
[Diogenes
Posted Wednesday, November 20, 2013 at 10:13 pm | PERMALINK
sprocket
I’m assuming you haven’t just seen the footage of Dastyari making this comment about Rees.
“Mate, keep your d*** in your pants and your eye on the ball.”]
as I said, smart and articulate (and very sound advice to boot) 😉
NathanA
That and the uber good pom neologism an “Omnishambles”
[DFAT will get to explain the Julie Bishop silence and Tony Abbott trashing relations with our nearest neighbor.]
DFAT will do nothing of the kind.
LIBYA COLLAPSES InTO A FAILED STATE ON EUROPE FRONT DOOR
________________________________
Days of fighting between rival gangs in Tripoli…civilians demanding action by an enfebled govt. and call a three day strike of shops,et al
Everywhere there is chaos and collapse
AS in Iraq there is no real effective Govt
The western internventions in both countries…and the support for the attack on Syria by the West has reduced three arab states to collapse.with millions of refugees and many deathsnow Libya is collapsing into anarchy.and seeing a flood of emigrants across the Medi to Italy and Malta
Zoomster
Exciting news. All the best
Abbott’s essential failure is an inability to grasp that domestic political tactics dont translate to the international stage. His body language and delivery is sound enough, giving every impression of the calm international statesman, but his words are pure poison in Asia. Abbott doesnt know it, but he is a wrecking ball to all our Asian ties at the moment. No Asian leader will want to be seen associating with him. Big business will not be happy.
Boerwar,
The Idiot will not do it openly. The rapprochement, if any, will be done by others and sotto voce.
sprocket
It certainly is good advice.
deblonay
Yep. And it cost a trillion plus dollars.
[So far every minister just about has been gagged.]
I saw on twitter earlier that JBishop has cancelled a longstanding agreement to appear on 730 tomorrow night?
With any luck she’s winging her way to Jakarta in a belated attempt at healing relations.
TLBD
[The Idiot will not do it openly. The rapprochement, if any, will be done by others and sotto voce.]
He wishes. The Indonesians have discovered that megaphone diplomacy is quite helpful. The more Abbott seeks to have everything done in secret, the more they will expose stuff to the light of day.
bemused@3171
I read the complete list but a notable omission was Glenferrie Rd Kooyong.
The Kooyong location on the list referred to Toorak Rd.
IMHO, top of the list should be any level crossing where railway and tram tracks intersect. These are absolute abominations and trouble prone.
Spot on, the waiting times for the crossings at both K
[3170….NathanA]
What it is….T Abbott is being turned into a figure of contempt by the President of Indonesia. Australia’s loser of a PM is being given a lesson in inter-governmental and inter-personal relations. If it persists – and especially if Abbott tries to make a virtue of his own ignorance – there will be only one way for Australia to redeem its standing in Djakarta: to dump the monkey.
confession
[I saw on twitter earlier that JBishop has cancelled a longstanding agreement to appear on 730 tomorrow night?
With any luck she’s winging her way to Jakarta in a belated attempt at healing relations.]
My advice would be to send her on an inspection tour of Nauru and Manus concentration camps with strict instructions to talk to nobody but women separated from their babies, pregnant women who are living in tents, guards who have been having sex with prisoners, guards who have been drunk, prisoners who have been raped and unaccompanied children who have been jailed.
to add to #3192
Spot on, the waiting times for the crossings at both Kooyong and Glenhuntly are pathetic. Especially since trains have to slow to a crawl when crossing Tram tracks and waiting times can stretch to 20 mins plus during the peak
[ What else can they stuff up? ]
Gosh! … so much to choose from!
But if I had to guess, then after our relations with our neighbor states, and our own economy (which they seem to have managed to f*ck up already) then I’d say the next item would be our PBS. The US hates it, and it is one of the things that the so-called “trans pacific partnership” is specifically designed to torpedo. Another is our “plain packaging” tobacco legislation.
Don’t believe me? Then I suggest you read this: http://latrobeuniversitybulletin.com/2011/12/06/dangers-lurk-in-new-free-trade-agreement/
Simply astounding!
I think Labor should state that they believe this to be a bad move, but then let this through – pointing out who it is going to hurt and how, and how it will increase government debt, raise interest rates, etc.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/lower-house-passes-mining-tax-repeal-next-stop-the-senate/story-fn59niix-1226764693917
let abbott start hurting people and running up a budget black hole. He’s a one termer, so why should labor help him. give him the rope he needs to hang himself.
ditto the carbon price repeal. labor should seek to amend to have an ETS or otherwise a small carbon levy on fossil fuel extraction (including the exports) as part of funding direct action, and point out the multitude of flaws with direct action as it is proposed. Labor also needs to start asking how much the miniung and fossil fuel lobbies have paid the liberals and asking why australia is blocking international action in warsaw. note the murdoch media is pretending warsaw meetings are not happening and few msm are reporting any outcomes and how australia is deliberately trying to frustrate global agreements – labor and the greens to link this with the donations from the sector to the liberal party. given details of donations is not out yet, they may even get abbott to lie to the house for later action when figures are released (no doubt abbott will soon make it possible to donate $10,000s without disclosure and maybe make this retrospective to hide the donations to the LNP by the sector). Abbott’s actions at CHOGM and now at warsaw rank with Howard’s war criminal actions in Iraq but will ultimately kill many more people.
briefly:
On top of all that, today we’ve seen certain reactionary commentators tsk-tsking at ABC journo salaries, wondering if they are realistic.
Remember as recently as earlier this year when people earning $250,000pa were deemed ‘battlers’ by certain sections of the media?
Good night all.
Boerwar,
Good.