Morgan: 60.5-39.5

Two polls from Morgan, which as ever moves in mysterious ways. Without question the headline finding is the face-to-face poll of 1832 respondents conducted over the previous two weekends, showing a healthy spike in Labor’s two-party lead to 60.5-39.5 from 57.5-42.5 at the previous such poll. The 574-sample phone poll was probably conducted to get more bang from their buck out of some other survey they were conducting for some other reason. It shows Labor’s lead at a more modest 57-43. Furthermore:

• Northern Territory MP Alison Anderson, on whose whim (along with fellow independent Gerry Wood) hangs the future of Paul Henderson’s floundering government, has advised that Tuesday will be nothing less than “the biggest day in Territory history”, which should alarm survivors of Cyclone Tracy and the 1942 air raids. Tuesday was to be the day Anderson would make known her attitude to the government’s future, but it’s presumably been brought forward a day now that Speaker Jane Aagaard has agreed to a request from Anderson, Wood and the CLP for parliament to resume on Monday. Notice will then be given of a no-confidence motion on Friday, which if successful – and given the pitch of Anderson’s rhetoric, any other outcome would be an enormous anti-climax – will result in either a new election or an immediate transfer of power to the Terry Mills-led CLP. The procedure for such a motion was established late last year in legislation establishing fixed four-year terms, which like similar legislation in New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia provides for an escape clause in the event of no-confidence or blocked supply. As Antony Green explains, it thus marks a test case for the aforementioned states, which have never experienced such a situation in the fixed term era. If the motion passes, the parliament will have eight days to back an alternative government, after which the Administrator will have the authority to issue writs for an election which the Chief Minister will be obliged to advise. The government’s ongoing crisis reached its current pitch on Tuesday when Anderson quit the ALP – not as she foreshadowed due to dissatisfaction with the government’s handling of an indigenous housing program, but because she blamed Henderson for an allegedly racist article about her and other indigenous MPs in Saturday’s edition of the Northern Territory News. The same day saw Arafura MP Marion Scrymgour return to the Labor fold after two months of independence, leaving the numbers at Labor 12, CLP 11, independents two. While Anderson’s tone of certainty might be taken as a clue, Wood’s precise attitude remains unclear: although of presumably conservative sympathies, he has expressed concern at the CLP’s readiness to govern, and was quoted this week saying an election was “certainly an option”. Anderson tells The Australian her gauge of the public mood is that there is “a push for an election so that they can teach Hendo a lesson”.

• Talk of John Della Bosca challenging Nathan Rees for the New South Wales premiership has focused attention on the theoretical prospect of a leader sitting in the upper house. While dismissive of the rumours, Imre Salusinszky of The Australian muses that Della Bosca “could serve a symbolic first 100 days in the Legislative Council and hope to have gained sufficient traction by that point to make the switch feasible”. He also notes that in the current environment, no lower house seat is so safe for Labor that Della Bosca could be guaranteed to win a by-election even if a sitting member agreed to make way. The Sydney Morning Herald reports party operatives hope Della Bosca can assume Bankstown from Tony Stewart by forging a deal in which Stewart receives an apology for his sacking over an incident involving a staff member last year, for which he is suing the government. Another Herald report mentions Riverstone, where John Aquilina has said he will not contest the next election. Della Bosca’s home patch, Gosford, is deemed unsuitable in part due to the lingering local unpopularity of his wife Belinda Neal following the Iguana’s episode, but also because it is too marginal and sitting member Marie Andrews would be unwilling to make way in any case. The Herald reports that a move to Bankstown “could pave the way for a graceful exit from politics for Ms Neal”, who is unlikely to retain preselection in her Gosford-based federal seat of Robertson. It will be recalled that when Barrie Unsworth was parachuted into Rockdale at a 1986 by-election to assume the premiership upon Neville Wran’s retirement, he suffered a 17 per cent dive in the primary vote and came within 54 votes of defeat. In May, Malcolm Mackerras wrote an article in The Australian decrying what he saw as the outdated convention that places leaders in the lower house, complaining that “New South Wales has Nathan Rees as Premier when John Della Bosca should be premier”, and suggesting the federal Liberals “should replace Julie Bishop as its federal deputy leader with Senator Nick Minchin and explicitly not ask Minchin to transfer to the House of Representatives”.

Christian Kerr of The Australian notes the British Conservatives have “turned a PR disaster into a triumph” by conducting an American-style open primary to choose the successor to one of many MPs disgraced in the country’s expenses scandal. Having done so, the party has given “everyone in the constituency a stake in the success of their candidate”. The New South Wales Nationals have decided to hold such a vote in one yet-to-be-chosen seat for the next state election.

• Antony Green comments on the potential availability of various double dissolution triggers, and on the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme bill in particular, where the Coalition appears to be playing a good hand with its apparent plan to oppose it at the second reading.

• Danna Vale, Liberal member for the southern Sydney seat of Hughes, has announced she will quit at the next election. The margin in Hughes was cut from 8.6 per cent to 2.2 per cent at the 2007 election, and by Antony Green’s reckoning the redistribution proposal unveiled yesterday will further reduce it to 1.1 per cent – less than a sitting member’s personal vote is generally reckoned to be worth. No word yet on who might be up for the tough task of keeping the seat in the Liberal fold.

• The Victorian Parliament’s Electoral Matters Committee has published a report recommending that consideration be given to adopting the weighted inclusive Gregory method for surplus transfers in upper house elections, as opposed to the (non-weighted) inclusive Gregory method currently employed both in Victoria and for the Senate. Under weighted inclusive Gregory, which was introduced in Western Australia at the last election, the system achieves mathematical perfection of a sort with every individual vote cut up and distributed among the final quotas at equal value. The inclusive Gregory method saves time, but it means individual votes which are used in surplus transfers more than once in the count are inflated in value on the second and subsequent occasions. Usually only small handfuls of votes are involved, but like anything these could be decisive in the event of a close result.

• The abolition of Laurie Ferguson’s Sydney seat of Reid threatens an interesting Labor preselection for one of the seats which have moved into its turf: Parramatta, Blaxland and McMahon, as Lowe has been renamed. Antony Green has composed what promises to be a headline-grabbing post noting that the New South Wales, Queensland and Western Australian redistributions (only proposals in the first two cases) have between them given Labor a notional boost of five seats. Those wishing to discuss these matters are asked to do so on the New South Wales redistribution thread.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. No 589

    It is true. He said “many” believe that faith-based and independent schools are seen to provide more morally-enlightened educations. He’s right because the statistics are clear: 33% of children do attend those types of schools. If that does indicative of “many” parents, then I don’t know what is.

    He did not say at all that people of left-wing beliefs were wrong to send their children to secular schools. That’s just something you’ve pre-supposed.

    Also, it’s worth noting the OECD studies he does mention which state that privately operated schools often out-perform state schools. But of course, you fail to mention that part because it doesn’t suit your argument.

  2. Psephos, of course I don’t have the answers. But just the same, the cycle of aboriginal life – from the comfort of my leafy suburb – looks like the “cycle of despair”. For those aborigines who live in remote locations, of course they are disconnected from the modern “economy”. And of course, they have lost vastly more than their “traditional economy”.

    GP, this is not about whether hearts bleed or not. Take yourself seriously for once. Consider simply what kind of life most likely awaits an aboriginal child born today, and compare it to the life chances of another non-aboriginal child. Please don’t tell me the differences lie purely in “choices” made by individuals, least of all in the choices of the children.

    This needs to be thought through from the beginning.

  3. No 597

    Very good point Adam.

    At the end of the day, we all want Aborigines to enjoy the same standard of living as the rest of Australian society, particularly on key health, education and life-expectancy indicators. ATSIC and all the rest of the Aboriginal-industry inspired policy solutions have failed to improve those indicators, but they have lined the pockets of corrupt people.

  4. [privately operated schools often out-perform state schools]

    Of course they do, because they are ruthlessly selective. As pointed out earlier, they won’t take kids likely to be “problems”, and they cull their year 10 and 11 students to get the best year 12 results.

  5. [Consider simply what kind of life most likely awaits an aboriginal child born today, and compare it to the life chances of another non-aboriginal child. Please don’t tell me the differences lie purely in “choices” made by individuals, least of all in the choices of the children. ]

    I have thought about it. And I’ve come to the conclusion that having racial quotas in parliament and a new ATSIC will do nothing to change the plight of indigenous people. Nor will a stupid and meaningless apology to the stolen generations.

  6. Of course there’s some more problems G.P.:
    [The cultural-Left and the Minister for Social Inclusion, Julia Gillard, reject such research.]
    Notice again that there are no quotes, no references, just an assertion that apparently Julia Gillard believes something because the writer says so.
    [Believing that social class determines educational success or failure conforms to the socialists’ worldview]
    Oh OK, so all this amounted to was an assertion that Julia Gillard is a socialist, of course there is no evidence to back this up, but at least he has made a point.
    […—one where capitalist society is riven with inequality and injustice and doing well has nothing to do with merit, application or ability.]
    This is an interesting sentence, because of the last word “ability”. Now how is “ability” determined? Is it all about what school someone goes to? I don’t think so, I think there is something else that he hasn’t thought of, genetics. But it seems that talking about genetics isn’t helpful in an article that wants to argue that private schools are better than public schools.
    [Such a self-fulfilling prophecy also justifies spending millions on feel-good programs that aim to overcome disadvantage and implement positive discrimination policies (much of which occurs in Labor-held electorates).]
    Notice how there are no references to back up this assertion either?

    Can you see a pattern forming here G.P.? For someone with a Ph.D. there is a hell of a lot of assertions made in this article that are backed up with bugger all evidence.

    But that isn’t so surprising in an article that asserts without any evidence that people who have a public education are somehow morally inferior to those who attend independent or Catholic schools.

  7. It may indeed be that there is no solution, that a small indigenous population in a settler society can simply never overcome the legacy of dispossession, and are doomed to live as a marginalised and impoverished remnant forever. In that case all we can do is going on paying them conscience money and avert our eyes. But I would like to think that is not the case.

  8. No 606

    This is also rubbish. I have been privately educated (at the school with the rugby fields, rifle range and two swimming pools – have a guess) and year 10 and 11 students were not “culled” at all, nor were the less intellectually gifted.

  9. [disadvantage and implement positive discrimination policies (much of which occurs in Labor-held electorates]

    Quelle surprise that social disadvantage mostly happens in Labor electorates. Why does he think people vote Labor?

  10. [But that isn’t so surprising in an article that asserts without any evidence that people who have a public education are somehow morally inferior to those who attend independent or Catholic schools.]

    He doesn’t assert that at all. You’re twisting what he actually said. Typical ShowsOn.

    Also, if you want a fully-referenced treatise on the problems with goverment education in this country, read his book, Dumbing Down. But I’m sure you’ll come up with some moronic excuse as to why you should avert your eyes from the book.

  11. [I have been privately educated (at the school with the rugby fields, rifle range and two swimming pools – have a guess) and year 10 and 11 students were not “culled” at all, nor were the less intellectually gifted.]

    Schools at the very top of the table can afford to carry underperformers, because they attract enrolments based on the prestige of their names, and they are also rich enough to feel some sense of noblesse oblige. It’s in the ruck of middle-ranking and newer schools that the competition is fiercest, and that’s where the selective recruitment and culling takes place. Particularly in low-income areas, all the problem kids are left for the state system, so of course state schools trail on performance tables.

  12. The above discussion about the Greens vote on the ETS runs me up the wrong way because it is based on a false premise. It’s like when I’ve heard conservatives attack the ALP for being ‘socialist’ and I have to reply: 1, that the ALP is not socialist and 2, that socialist isn’t a dirty word anyway, so we are operating on a completely different wavelength.
    It would perhaps be more conveniant if you lot attacked the Greens for going too far because there are plenty of easy retaliations to this. But this “ALP are serious about CC whilst the Greens are phoneys siding with the Tories” argument is based on a false premise. 1, The ALP are not working to combat CC, they are actively trying to give major polluters a garantee that the government will not enforce binding targets strong enough to save the economy from disaster. 2, wanting to actually have strong action on CC isn’t a bad thing. I mean, we all agree that its economically cheaper to stop run-away CC don’t we? This ETS is worse than nothing because it sets in place a framework for insubstantial cuts.

    Its the ALP that’s getting cozy with the dinosaurs in the coal industry. I think that the demographic that the Greens get their vote from are smart enough to realize that not any old anti-CO2 program will succeed – The nature of the scheme matters. A good one does our part stop CC, a bad one doesn’t. It is hard to see how this CPRS could fit into the first catagory.

    Honest question: Can ALPers on this site understand why Greens hate this ETS bill and couldn’t possibly support something that gives loads to the very polluting industries that we should be closing down and literally garantees emissions won’t fall enough for us to be emitting our fair share of what is acceptable if run-away CC is to be prevented?

    Like I said, I think the different sides are looking at this on different wavelengths.

  13. No 615

    The school I attended was not at the top of the table in HSC results and it did not enrol less-gifted students out of a sense of nobless-oblige. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

  14. [It is true. He said “many” believe that faith-based and independent schools are seen to provide more morally-enlightened educations. He’s right because the statistics are clear: 33% of children do attend those types of schools. If that does indicative of “many” parents, then I don’t know what is.]
    LOL! So you are asserting that ALL parents send their kids to Catholic schools because they think public schools are morally suspect? Who is this “many” that he cites, again it is just like a lot of things in the article, made up pseudo-entities designed to help his argument.

    Even he writes:
    [surveys consistently show that parents value Catholic and independent schools for a range of other reasons. Whether the reason is discipline, religious emphasis, teacher quality, values in tune with those of the home or a rigorous or well-rounded curriculum,]
    OK, again he couldn’t provide a SINGLE reference for these surveys, but he concedes that parents send their children to Catholic schools for numerous reasons, yet now you are saying it is just because they think Catholic schools provide their students with a superior moral outlook.
    [He did not say at all that people of left-wing beliefs were wrong to send their children to secular schools. That’s just something you’ve pre-supposed.]
    Nor did he provide any evidence to prove this was the case, so that statement is just a piece of fiction that he made up.
    [Also, it’s worth noting the OECD studies he does mention which state that privately operated schools often out-perform state schools.]
    LOL! Of course they should, because government schools must accept all students, whereas private schools can kick students out into the public sector.

    I also note that you and he fail to mention that the previous government completely failed in getting a national curriculum started, so it is another thing that the new government has to do.

  15. [The school I attended was not at the top of the table in HSC results]

    I meant top of the table in prestige terms, which the school you refer to certainly is

    [it did not enrol less-gifted students out of a sense of nobless-oblige.]

    How do you know? Did you get invited to school board meetings?

    [You don’t know what you’re talking about.]

    Always a dangerous assumption 🙂

  16. No 618

    More rubbish. He actually thinks the national curriculum is a statist and bureaucratic approach that will erode the “autonomy, flexibility, competition and choice” that makes the non-government sector successful.

  17. More about those dinosaurs.

    http://www.actu.asn.au/Media/Mediareleases/Dinosaursurgedtoevolveandsupportcleanenergyjobs.aspx

    [Welfare, union, environment, and research organisations today launched a national multi-media campaign calling on “dinosaurs” in politics and business to stop blocking urgent climate action in Australia, saying this is holding up the creation of hundreds of thousands of new clean energy jobs.

    The campaign, backed by The Climate Institute, the ACTU, Australian Council Of Social Service, the Australian Conservation Foundation and WWF, is launching as parliamentary debate is set to resume on the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme and Renewable Energy Target.]

    http://www.cleanenergyjobs.com.au/

    [A recent CSIRO study indicates that 2.7 million jobs could be created in Australia over the next 15 years if we move to a cleaner, low carbon economy. Up to one million of these could be clean energy jobs using traditional skills in new industries like solar, wind, water and recycling]

  18. [1.A treaty ala waitangi
    2.a guaranteed quota of seats in parl.
    3.an acceptance that indigenes can be dualists ie live in both the traditional and the westrn world.

    1. symbolism
    2. more symbolism
    3. platitudes.]

    You are either being disengenous or just palin dumb

    NZ has pretty well managed its indigene problem in a mature and EVEN handed approach.

    Your use of “symbolism and plattitudes” just reinforces your sterotypical approach to indigene affirs
    ie use western labels to discuss indigene issues without having a clue as to there meaning to the indigene
    eg GP approach to the ‘apology”

    Nuff said

    BTW well said Briefly.

  19. [Welfare, union, environment, and research organisations today launched a national multi-media campaign calling on “dinosaurs” in politics and business to stop blocking urgent climate action in Australia, saying this is holding up the creation of hundreds of thousands of new clean energy jobs.]

    Oh dear, so many of St Bob’s traditional supporters in that lot 🙂

  20. [He actually thinks the national curriculum is a statist and bureaucratic approach that will erode the “autonomy, flexibility, competition and choice” that makes the non-government sector successful.]
    Yeah I read that, but again, the fact he doesn’t back up his statements with evidence meant I didn’t treat it seriously.

    The fact is there is bipartisan support for a national curriculum, the Howard government completely failed in actually implementing one, whereas the Labor government is going to do it.

    But this guy is living in the past, he thinks calling Julia Gillard a socialist amounts to an argument against her policies.

    Sorry, but this article just lacks a coherent argument, I’m sorry if you can’t see that.

  21. [Grog
    Posted Friday, August 7, 2009 at 8:21 pm | Permalink
    We’ll win this one in 3 1/2 days. You heard it hear first!]

    I apologise for being such a pessimist

  22. [How do you know?]

    The focus of my school was to provide a well-rounded education, as opposed to one strictly focussed on academic success. It was a widely publicised policy of the school that was unfortunately disguised by all the nonsense of hit-lists and facilities. Often there were students who were merely average academically, but very good at sport, drama or some other activity the school offered. I could name countless examples, but I don’t need to – your assessment is simplistic and divorced from the reality.

  23. [The focus of my school was to provide a well-rounded education, as opposed to one strictly focussed on academic success.]
    Same with the public school I attended.
    [Often there were students who were merely average academically, but very good at sport, drama or some other activity the school offered.]
    Do you seriously think that there aren’t such students in public schools?

  24. [The Finnigans
    Posted Tuesday, August 4, 2009 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    England swings like the pendulums do….. so says the song.

    Australia will win the next two tests and retain the Ashes, as they ball will not swing in the next two tests. Australia has been playing at most 60% of its capability whereas England has been almost at its peak.

    Go you good thing.]

    I apologise for being such an optimist.

  25. [NZ has pretty well managed its indigene problem in a mature and EVEN handed approach.]

    NZ doesn’t have the same problem we have. The Maori were never dispossessed in the way indigenous Australians were, and were never reduced to the abject state that indigenous Australians were. They are 14% of the population, they have been largely urbanised for 60 years, they have strong social structures and a strong indigenous church which gives them self-respect and social support. There are no Maori eqivalents of Wadeye and the Alice Springs camps.

  26. No 623

    Gusface, learn to use proper spelling and grammar and maybe you’d sound more credible.

    That aside, you can’t get anymore even-handed than throwing billions away in welfare, housing and other funding for decades only to have nothing improve. At some point, Aborigines have to come to the party and recognise that their problems are not entirely the fault of others.

  27. http://newmatilda.com/2009/08/05/actually-rudd-does-break-promises

    Analysis by Mark Diesendorf

    [The Rudd Labor Government won office in November 2007, partly because of its promises to expand renewable energy in Australia. As of May 2009, no leaks or whistleblowers have revealed collusion with the big greenhouse gas emitters per se, though clearly emitters are having a strong say in the development of Government legislation. The new Government’s failure to implement its main election promises — by not making the necessary financial allocations to renewable energy in the May 2008 budget and its failure to set up the appropriate institutions in 2008 — are indications that the change of government has not necessarily brought a significant change of policy. Specifically, apart from the symbolic gesture of ratifying the Kyoto Protocol, the new Government has delayed implementation of all of its principal election promises to support renewable energy.

    If you have any lingering doubt that the Rudd Government has been captured by the Greenhouse Mafia like the previous Howard government, inspect the membership of the High Level Consultative Committee for Australia’s 2009 Energy White Paper. The business representatives come from coal, oil, gas and uranium. There are no specific representatives for renewable energy or energy efficiency. Clearly, the result of the Energy White Paper process is predetermined.]

  28. I also apologise for wirintg “hear” instead of “here”.

    I hate grammar. I especially hate that I always want to type “grammer”.

  29. [Gusface, learn to use proper spelling and grammar and maybe you’d sound more credible.]

    Candles, coming from you, I am truly touched

  30. No 628

    [Do you seriously think that there aren’t such students in public schools?]

    Of course I don’t think that. I was simply refuting the ridiculous point that below average students were “carried” by private schools out of a sense of “noblesse-oblige”.

  31. The Heysen Molotov!! I would like to know what the Green’s position actually is and how they will manage the economic and social impact of deeper cuts.

    Gusface! I understand your point about Treaties but too pharaphase anAmerican Indian

    “What treaty has white man kepted, what treaty has indian broken”

    Gusface how many Aboringals currently sit in the NT parliament, i know of one in the NSW parliamnet and i think there is at least one in the WA parliament.

    Clearly Aboringals are already active in politics so special seats will change nothing.

  32. THM said:

    [Like I said, I think the different sides are looking at this on different wavelengths.]

    It’s all about politics, money and powerful vested interests.

  33. [NZ doesn’t have the same problem we have. The Maori were never dispossessed in the way indigenous Australians were, and were never reduced to the abject state that indigenous Australians were.]

    Good,maybe we could work towards redressing this and confirm our “good intentions by guess what

    A TREATY (point 1)

    [They are 14% of the population, they have been largely urbanised for 60 years, they have strong social structures and a strong indigenous church which gives them self-respect and social support.]

    So numbers count eh
    Hmmmm.
    That aside the other points are done via self determination and a say in the parl process by guess what

    A QUOTA OF SEATS (point 2)

    [they have strong social structures and a strong indigenous church which gives them self-respect and social support]

    Agree. and we could achieve all that by … you know its coming……

    GUESS WHAT

    Accepting the indigene as the indigene with a dualist nature (point 3)

    I await your response.

  34. No 632

    Mark forgets that resources constitute a massive part of our overall income from exports, and since the ETS will impinge on their international competitiveness by increasing costs, it seems very appropriate that resources representatives are at the table!

  35. “noblesse-oblige”

    It’s always very dangerous to complain about spelling and grammar (I think that’s a BB rule). I can verify this from past bitter experience.

    The term is “noblesse oblige” not “noblesse-oblige”.

  36. Gusface, Aborigines makeup less than 2.5% of the population which makes your case quite weak.

    I also find your racial quota idea offensive. In fact, it’s racist.

  37. [Good,maybe we could work towards redressing this and confirm our “good intentions by guess what A TREATY (point 1)]

    The Treaty of Waitangi ratified the existing state of affairs in NZ, namely that the Maori controlled most of the land and were well armed and ready to fight for it. That was never the case in Australia. And even if it did, it’s obviously too late for such a treaty now. What would the content of this treaty be? That we give Australia back and go home to England? I don’t think so. What practical difference would it make to anything?

    [Accepting the indigene as the indigene with a dualist nature (point 3)]

    What on earth does this mean? OK, “I accept the indigene as the indigene with a dualist nature.” Fine. So what?

    [So numbers count eh]

    Of course they do.

  38. [So do you think they should have a quota of seats in the House or the Senate?]

    Actually the numbers were posted a while back, but I think at least one senator for each state, plus a proportional number of MHR’s in each state ie based on eligible electors.

    obviously the pointyheads could figure out the actual detail.

  39. “In all countries, education performance varies markedly between high and low socio-economic groups. The achievement gap can be partly explained by genetic influences but it is also due to differences in resources and opportunities…………The differences in academic performance between our highest and lowest performing students (and even between the lowest and the median) are large in Australia and more dependent on the influence of class, family and social background than in many other countries such as Canada, Ireland, Austria, Korea, Finland and other Scandinavian countries. The OECD puts us in the “high quality/low equity” box in its international comparisons
    of reading literacy.”

    http://www.ias.uwa.edu.au/new-critic/five/educationinequalities
    Fred Argy AM OBE
    Fred Argy, a former high level policy adviser to several Federal governments, has written extensively on the interaction between social and economic issues. His three most recent papers are Equality of Opportunity in Australia (Australia Institute Discussion Paper no. 85, 2006); Employment Policy and Values (Public Policy volume 1, no. 2, 2006); and Distribution Effects of Labour Deregulation (AGENDA, volume 14, no. 2, 2007). He is currently a Visiting Fellow, ANU.

  40. No 647

    Since when has had age had much influence in Cricket. They rarely run more than a few hundred metres in an entire match.

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