The latest bi-monthly New South Wales state Newspoll shows the Coalition maintaining its 52-48 lead, although Labor has recovered a point on the primary vote. Barry O’Farrell’s lead over Morris Iemma as preferred Premier is steady at 39-32, and his satisfaction rating is up three points to 40 per cent. Morris Iemma’s approval rating remains at a disastrous 26 per cent, although his disapproval is down three points to 60 per cent.
The funniest thing GG is that if Barry O’Farrell is the first new Liberal Premier since what 2002 he will be the conservative version of Neville Wran.
ESJ,
How so? I’m sure you’ve got an archaic connection to back your statement.
LOL GG, you know me so well.
Umm Wran was the first new Labor premier after EGW went down, perhaps Barry will be the first Liberal premier elected after JWH went down.
Meanwhile GG, BHO has begun his long relentless decline to defeat in the polls.
Obama’s decline is not sudden. It has been apparent and ongoing since Super Tuesday. Basically, Obama caught a parked car and has wondered WTF to do with it ever since.
McCain has actually set the agenda re Oil drilling locally rather than depending on the Arabs. The “surge’ has clearly worked at this point in Iraq. I dare say Putin took the $3.50 on offer and has been providing a bit of insurance of his own.
I thought that it was going to be real close. But now, McCain comfortably for me.
“Documents leaked to the Nine Network (of Labor internal polling) show NSW Labor would shed 21 seats and lose by five seats if the election were held today.”
As I posted in #74 from part of Antony Greens analysis supplied to NSW Parliamentary Research service , so many combinations of electon results by seat ar possible with varying primary bvotes obtained couplled with optional pref voting , Minority partys someimes giving out HTV’s by seat and sometimes not in other seats , pref Labor in one seat and Liberals in another seat etc , so predicted 21 seat loss as of now by internal polling is not necessarily same ‘quality accuracy ‘ as if it was done in another State
However given abov ‘combinations’ menetioned , a 21 seat loss over 93 seats is still indicative of gross magnatude of voter disatisfacton , “message” is there that problem is not perseption but both leader and policy , conversely ‘five seats loss’ means a window of opportunity is there to redeeem
re: ESJ @ #101
Aren’t you a long way off track comparing Barry O’Farrell to Neville Wran?
O’Farrell is using the same policies that proved so successful for Peter Coleman in 1978!
IMHO O’Farrell will go down in history in the same group as John Mason and Tom Lewis.
The slippery slide of the ALP in NSW has been apparent and ongoing for some time.
The corrupt, bullying, reputation they have will cost the ALP dearly in the council elections.
The thugs running the circus don’t care about the party, their snout is so far into the pork barrel even their ears are covered.
Of course judge that’s why the NSW Greens will preference the ALP in the council elections isnt it?
No Eddy,
The Greens preferences are decided by local groups, not head office, and preferences are optional.
Do local council elections have Optional Pref Voting? The Greens could always refuse to direct preferences.
Yes of course “judge” your obviously an East German People’s Court variety of judge with wordplay like that. The local people’s committees will ironically all decide in the same way of course.
ESJ@112
Perhaps you should wait and see what happens…
I just hope they can keep Barry out of the surf.
The Judge
As you say
“The slippery slide of the ALP in NSW has been apparent and ongoing for some time.
The corrupt, bullying, reputation they have will cost the ALP dearly in the council elections.
The thugs running the circus don’t care about the party, their snout is so far into the pork barrel even their ears are covered.”
The biggest question for the Green is whether they will in the next NSW election support such a regime, and thus making it impossible for the NSW ALP to stay in power.
Or whether they will preference the ALP and shows that they are just Lackeys of the ALP
Besides “Judge” didnt a certain ALP comrade with bad dental work order that colleagues on Leichardt council vote with the Libs against the Greens? Surely the people demand swift vengeance?
If that’s so Eddy, it woulden’t supprise any one.
The Greens are used to the dirty tactics of the LIB/LAB Club.
Still over one million Australians have seen past their bully tactics and voted Greens, amazing really.
117 the judge – but most have preferenced one or other of the major players second.
Let me add to my 118 post “in other states and federally.”
Council elections? Who cares? Get a life.
At last a bank that is willing to play the cpmpetition game, to some extent anyway.
http://business.theage.com.au/business/well-pass-on-rate-cut-nab-says-20080821-3z5c.html
In Blacktown at the last state election the Greens did not preference the ALP. In fact there were no directions as to preferences at all on the HTV a luxury afforded to the politically pure at heart by the optional preferential system pertaining in NSW.
Not that it made one whit of difference as the Funky Gibson romped home despite having been as recently as 1998 been the subject of comment at the ICAC:
But it has to be said that he is a dab hand at raising funds for the party. And since his re-election he has opposed the privatisation of the electricity industry although whether this is un-adjacent to his somewhat sharpish dumping from the post election ministry by Mo Io is open to speculation by the unkind and cynical.
Gazza who said intemperately
must be from one of the smaller states or territories. The fact is that on September 13 far more people will vote for their LGA representatives than will vote in upcoming WA election. Indeed the turnout for the election of the Blacktown City councillors will be greater than that in the NT recently. And bear in mind that each councillor will represent about 2.5 times as many people as in any of the NT’s pocket electorates.
It is a matter of some regret that Bill won’t open a thread on this statewide plebiscite of the mood of the people and which perhaps will be a bellwether of Mo Io’s fate in the coming weeks.
Well, Albert, wrong again. Here in Victoria (oh, what a small state that is) council elections have as much interest as watching paint dry. I’m very politically minded but I couldn’t tell you who, on my council, is with which party or faction. It just isn’t a big deal. So try again.
And Surprise Surprise, The Tip has piked on challenging as leader.
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24218429-5005361,00.html
As I said on another thread, you get the feeling Cossie is protecting Brendan from Malcolm. All Brendan has to do now is not call for a leadership spill because Malcolm won’t dare challenge while Cossie is there.
re Post 1125,
Sorry, wrong thread and I notice it’s being discussed in the AC Neilson thread.
Mexican Gazza invitingly says:
Well Vic is a big state (full of big hearted people like Cossie) I will concede.
Your attitude is probably coloured by the history of LG in Vic. My understanding is that until they were given the Jeff treatment they were tiny entities without a lot of power. Since amalgamation they are much bigger and have widerish powers but I suppose that the attitude that they are very parish pump is going to take a long time to change.
In NSW LGAs have tended to be bigger and with amalgamations over the last 40 years have got bigger. They have had fairly wide powers and have been battlegrounds between the ALP (and its factions) and the dark forces of the right either through proxies such as Civic Reform/Residents Action Groups or more latterly as out of the closet endorsed Liberals. Service as a councillor and especially as mayor has been seen as a stepping stone to greater glory at State and Federal level.
The political parties and the various independents take the NSW LGA elections seriously although the powers of the LGAs have steadily been eroded and there always seems to be quite a deal of public interest in the elections and the subsequent activities of those elected.
Gary, please don’t leave childish comments like 120.
Childish comment number 2 – “Mexican Gazza invitingly”
You are right Albert, my attitude is coloured by the way we see councils here in Victoria and I stick by it. Enough said.
Gary,
What’s this “we” whiteman.
Let me modify that for GG’s sake. “My attitude is coloured by the way me and most Victorians see councils here in Victoria and I stick by it.”