UPDATE: The Australian reports no change on two-party from last fortnight, and only a moderate shift in preferred prime minister from 70-12 to 66-17. Full press release from Mumble here, and further polling on petrol price issues here.
Peter Brent at Mumble says he hopes to be first to air with tonight’s eagerly awaited Newspoll result. We have also had a poll today from newcomers Essential Research (who a fortnight ago produced encouraging post-budget intelligence for the government), which shows Labor’s two-party lead down from 61-39 to 56-44. If I heard correctly from SBS, it also showed the Prime Minister’s approval rating down from 67 per cent to 60 per cent. Interestingly, 50 per cent of respondents said Peter Costello and Alexander Downer should retire.
Other news: Former Victorian Police Minister Andre Haermeyer has announced he is quitting politics, initiating a by-election in his rock-solid Labor seat of Kororoit.
Enjaybee, youre right, we also havent seen two polls combined ie. 15 point drop to get a result they like
TT did a show about the Derrance Stevenson murder {body in the freezer murder} the convicted murderer was on the show claiming innocence, trying to point the finger at a sixteen year old boy who was murdered two weeks later in the infamous family serial murders, this lad lived at home with his family and had no ties with the homosexual underworld, he was abducted on 3 30 pm on a sunday afternoon on his way home from a mates place, the only evidence TT produced is the murdered lad had blonde hair, the convicted murderer said he saw a boy with blonde hair near the Stevenson house {he was the only one who saw this so called boy} he conveniently claimed it could have been the murdered boy, he admitted he had never seen this boy before, TT blurbed that it was a massive coincidence that the murderer claimed to see a blonde boy and one was murdered two weeks later, this young lad’s family was devistated and the head of Major Crime was ropeable, over the years they had put this lads life and aquaintances through a magnifying glass and SAPOL knew it wasnt true–unfortunately the law of this land is the fact that you cant sue on behalf of a dead person, a dead person can be defamed in any way with no comeback, i’m weeping inside while i’m reliving that dreadful program, that blonde boy was my son, the first victim of the “family”.
Previous PB poster Steven Kaye copped a bit of a bloody nose from a fellow commenter on Bolter’s Blog.
One of the very few posts that made it through the moderator that shows up Bolter and his troupe of Lib trolls for the total idiots that they are.
{BL replied to Steven Kaye
Tue 03 Jun 08 (12:52pm)
It’s instructive to look back to what happened the last time an unpopular government was voted out (1996). The Prime Minister’s preferred PM rating was at 54% immediately post election and had dropped to a low of 32% (June 1998) before the 1998 election – it seems Kevin has a way to go yet.
Immediately post election Kevin was at 61% and he’s since only fallen to 66%. }
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/rudd_hurts_himself_more_than_labor/P20/
the convicted murderer only suddenly remembered seeing the blonde boy years and years later when doing the TT program.
sorry William and bloggers for going off subject, i just get a little bitter when TT is mentioned and i’ve shot off my mouth, William please feel free to delete my postings if you wish.
judy barnes – I didn’t see the TT prog you’re posting about and know very little about the Stevenson murders, but I have seen several of TT’s stories on the Anna Jane Cheney murder and they present a very strong case for Keough’s innocence, IMHO.
Judy it seems to me like you have a right to feel bitter
TT are scum
so sorry for your loss
There are no words to placate a tragedy. Disturbing and saddening to hear your story. And disgusting to see yet again how non-existent media standards are regardless of the issue they have at hand.
The Australian has tonight dropped any reference to their Newspoll BS and now are now running this junk:
“Labor feels pressure over child care costs
Christian Kerr | June 03, 2008
THE Reserve Bank of Australia handed Kevin Rudd a reprieve on rising interest rates this afternoon but his Government soon found itself under political attack on a new front – whether it could prevent child care cost increases.
In Question Time this afternoon, Julia Gillard warned childcare operators against profiteering off increased government subsidies but failed to explain how she would enforce her threat. ”
The (Lib) Government Gazette is back!
Judy, your story is a tragic one and my sympathies are with you. I’ve always suspected that you are who say you are (apart from your name) when you gave a hint some month’s back on this site. It’s a pity that this sad and sordid affair couldn’t be brought to a close and the offenders brought to justice.
253 Scorpio
All credit to you and particularly BL for braving that world over there where cause and effect seem strangely disconnected.
Steven Kaye seems to be particularly gifted in that regard.
Well we all know Ker.
Another non-story. In fact I think Gillard said that yesterday. Obviously the LNP have sat down with their media mates and gone through QT looking for any snippet to make into a ‘major’ issue. Gillard warning people not to profiteer.
It is the LNP the RBA handed a reprieve, they are the ones that gave us inflation and interest rates rises….but a little context? But sorry this is the OO we are talking about.
Gee, the government telling people not to take advantage of others and the OO trying to make it a negative? They tried this nonsense before the election and all it did was highlight the fact that Rudd and co were trying to do something positive. Only a cynical liberal hack could give the story a negative twist and the OO is where they all end up.
I wonder what is like working for a paper where all your stories have to paint labor in a negative light?
Kid’s in India miss out again as Rudd pledges ten billion dollars for childcare and education in Australia; when pressured by the Opposition Kevin Rudd was unable to explain his callous and racist oversight. Nelson also demanded to know where Labor was when kids where forced to work in down the mines at the beginning of the 19th century. Labors caring reputation in tatters.
We report the news, you decide. :]
What happened to the dream of a fair, impartial media in this country?
All I can say is thank Christ for the internet and blogs/forums like poll bludger!
Just what is that qualifies someone to be a murdoch political journalist? Being able to demonstrate a solid unwaivering right wing view? Being an ex-Liberal party hack? Being able to exist in a continuous delusion state. Having John Howard’s name tattooed on the bum?
Knowing that two half truths make a whole truth or that the more half truths you can put into a piece the more truthful it will be?
249 Andrew and Kina @263
I think I’m going to try and give up ranting against the MSM.
I’m pretty comfortable given yesterday’s newspoll shows them to be irrelevant.
I feel sorry for journalists who put in a hard impartial days work, but it’s as much their fault for letting their colleagues off the leash, and not writing about the problems in the MSM. There are now plenty of alternative sources of information and credible analysis.
MayoFeral, i have no idea whether Keough is guilty or innocent, i can only say that my friends from SAPOL firmly believe him guilty.
it may help to know a little of the background behind TT doing these stories, the police pathologist sued TT for defamation and won substancial damages, after that TT took it upon themselves to do these programs on cases he’d been involved with, as far as they’re concerned the Cheney family along with ours is only collatoral damage.
when the Sunday Mail head crime reporter asked them why they had’nt the decency to contact us before the program, they claimed they’d lost my phone number– regardless of the fact that ch7 news contacts us on that phone number regularly to try get me on to comment about the latest movements on the case.
i have a daughter who was twelve when her beloved brother died, an adult now she is riddled with bleeding stomach ulcers from post traumatic stress syndrome and the stress of growing up living with us spending eleven years in and out of courts, the shock of seeing that program bought about her stomach rupturing with a massive bleed again and she had to be rushed to hospital, now our case is blowing up again she is in the process of arranging to shift to W.A. where no one will know her as Alan’s sister, after that program i cant blame her.
Kina there is always the age. 😉
{What happened to the dream of a fair, impartial media in this country?}
Any semblance of it got totally corrupted by Howard and his cronies.
The Corporate media suckled on the public teat for a decade to the tune of 2 billion dollars.
To have the keys to the treasure taken away in such a sudden and unexpected fashion by Rudd and Labor is a situation almost too painful for the MSM to bear.
Of course, Auntie also got corrupted in that time.
Get used to a concerted campaign by these agents of corporate greed & corruption to prise Rudd from the Lodge and reinstate the rightful rulers of the masses and benefactors of the privileged classes.
Here’s one story I bet I won’t see Christian Kerr reporting:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7430627.stm
Its a story from the BBC where the head of the OECD has said he is pleased about high oil prices, because it will finally force changes that were needed anyway. Policies like Nelson’s are explicitely warned against:
“Speaking at the annual meeting of the world’s richest nations, Angel Gurria said it would be “disastrous” if they cut fuel taxes or subsidised prices.
“The best solution to high oil prices is high prices” to cut demand, he said. ”
Well, maybe if Nelson listens and learns he’ll be able to pass Economics 101 in future.
sorry again–back to politics, Kina 263 you forgot that Rudd should have been there when those chimney boys had fires lit under them to force them up the chimneys- mid 17 hundreds, and now Rudd has tha gall to pose as a saviour for the workers, excuse me while i dash off an email to bring this dreadful state of affairs to the attention of Brenda or better still the mad monk!
Andrew at 248
I read the Herald Sun mid morning in a coffee shop. McManus basically said that the news poll was good news for the government.
That’s it is it John? The Age. Nothing else? You are correct John. I can’t think of another one either.
House is still sitting. So much for the work/life balance.
272 Constant – That’s good to hear. I’ve been e-mailing Gerard McManus as some of my prevoius posts have detailed. I don’t buy the Herald Sun so I was wondering how he reacted to the poll in the paper. He said much the same to me in his e-mail reply.
The Age is I guess an interesting change to the others – but really, what is wrong with just analytical reporting without the bias? I mean, I would love to see some deeper honest analysis of the issues without any hint of being it tilted to suit any side.
AND with the very tough issues of greenhouse gass reduction and carbon trading etc coming up it is even more important that we are impartially informed.
But my real fear is that that energy industry in all its manifestations will hijack the media and have misinformation reported and discussed in the place important information.
274 James J – it doesn’t happen all of the time and parliament doesn’t sit everyday. Hell, we’ve all had to burn the midnight oil at some stage in our jobs.
“I mean, I would love to see some deeper honest analysis of the issues without any hint of being it tilted to suit any side.” I agree totally.
The only paper I buy is the weekend edition of the Financial Review. Age is too Melbourne focussed for me.
How many MSM outlets would be considered having a conservative hue about their reporting of political matters compared to the number with a “left” bias? Well, for the left there’s The Age and …. ah……the….ah
Rudd needs to announce alliances with our car makers in bringing about some of these changes here, it would work in with his climate change agenda and i’m sure would go down well with the punters, it would certainly take some of the heat off the petrol furore.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23807749-5005962,00.html
hanging my head in shame i have to admit i still get the OO and the Advertiser every day, they both have great cryptic crosswords and i LOVE cryptic crosswords, however tomorrow i’m biting the bullet and cancelling out, my home will be a newsltd free zone, i’ve been working up to it for the last few weeks, especially since the Advertiser started having Dolly every monday, i mean Dolly with breakfast is a sure way to have indigestion for the day and OO has’nt been the same since Matt died, George is about all they’ve got going for them now.
SYDNEY MORNING HERALD isn’t too bad, they are more intent at bashing the N.S.W State Labor Government, which one can argue is far more inept than the Rudd Government. The coverage of federal politics is pretty much straight down the line, even Gerard Henderson was defending Rudd today against the “evil arts community” over the Bill Henson matter.
From ABC
Liberals to run candidate for Kororoit seat
Thomarse: a complete waste of time! What the hell is Bailieu smoking?
Aren’t the Victorian Liberal Party meant to be in debt?
Hey! don’t shoot the messenger!
It appears that Nelson has now decided that it is a good idea to start commenting on the polls. Not a job that politicians usually indulge in for many good reasons.
http://tokblog.org/?p=481
Dunno about the SMH, Kina.
I can’t get it here but this below from their website doesn’t impress too much.
“TODAY’S TOP 10 ARTICLES
Multiple orgasms in parliament
Cop’s ‘gambling problem’
Bill Clinton admits Hillary’s end is near
Anti-knife campaigner killed
Father finds daughter, 1, alone in locked-up centre
Man sues hotel over too many Germans
Care centre owner admits baby blunder
Teen stabbed to death in a lift
Fountains on tap, Britney reads book
‘Sleeping’ driver ploughs into bike race ”
From here:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/mul … 46557.html
Anyway, a dead cat bounce is always an impressive sight.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-dea3.htm
If the next Newspoll shows that this is indeed a ‘Deadcat Bounce’ for Nelson’s PPM figures then some people are going to be looking very very silly indeed.
277: True, but why couldnt they start the sitting at 9am instead of 12pm.
I note that the NSW legislative assembly is currently still sitting (at 2am). There has to be a better way.
I watched the repeat version of QT tonight. The Rabble were very subdued compared to last week. I cannot recall Hockey making any interuptions- no bully boy stunts. Must be because of Newspoll Results.
Julia Gillard is certainly worth her wages.
Judy
A lot of Adelaide people have reached your views on the News tabloids. I just can’t in conscience give them my money. We don’t get the Advertiser or Oz and don’t miss them. We get the SMH; the Age is also good. Both are available at most news agents now. You can get the Age fairly early in the morning in Adelaide too. Xanthipe loves the crosswords and sudoku in both so I think you will be happy. We get the Independant on the weekend for local news. The Age covers a fair bit of SA news anyway.
Nelson new attack methods should use dodgy dagwood dogs. I think we have found the Kevinator’s weakness.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23807135-5001021,00.html
Bolt was on early morning TV this morning saying that the venue where this happens doesn’t sell Dagwood Dogs and hinted at it being a possible heart attack. As far as Bolt was concerned it showed Rudd needed to slow down and that he is full of spin. What a goose.
I know B.S. Fairman@293. I thought I’d typed in the wrong address and gone to http://www.newidea.com.au instead.
GB
gutter journalism is what i’d call it
“Tell us what you think about Kevin Rudd’s diet and his workaholic mentality and vote in our poll: Are dagwood dogs dodgy enough to make you sick?
Then go down memory lane and see K-Rudd’s early years…
Before his political life as Prime Minister.
And don’t forget his embarrassing ear wax eating moment, which made world headlines”
News Ltd. didn’t get the Newspoll result that they were hoping for so instead they invent stories about Rudd’s health in order to damage his standing.
These “journalists'” should return to the gutters from which they were recruited.
Can’t wait to hear what Porky has to say; after all, he is an expert on Dagwood Dogs and gutter journalism.
To make it even worse the original story mentioned Rudd and Kyle Sandilands in the same paragraph. Then they realised to make it seem like a more serious political dilemma they’d have to remove reference to Sandilands.
Bolt if he were to put his intelligence to work should be angling for the LNP to reform itself and develop some policies and platform. Their tactic at the moment, which only works with the help of a complaint media, is to simply carp.
They need to unequivocally dump workchoices and anything like it. I noticed that Nelson dumped Workchoices but then gave a view that made it plain they still wanted to get rid of collective bargaining (unions).
This attack on collective on collective bargaining is purely an ideological one and not at all necessary for improving the economy. Also they need to review their racist dogwhistling immigration, refugee etc attitude and come out with some mature adult policy not simply some bloody-minded thing.
But I guess that it would be all a wasted effort while we know there are so many hard-righters in control. Better they present their real face so we know to stay away. I prefer my red-back spiders to have a red dot on the back.
Funny, they never made a big deal out of Howard’s turn to alcohol or his addressing the parliament when drunk.
Well I guess it shows just how hard it is to find negative things on Labor and Rudd -they have to continually over blow trivia.