Newspoll: 58-42 to Labor (open thread)

Labor’s two-party lead back out to its equal widest since the election, though Sussan Ley remains favoured to lead the Liberal Party.

The Australian reports the latest Newspoll has Labor’s two-party lead at 58-42, out from 57-43 three weeks ago. The primary votes are Labor 36% (steady), Coalition 24% (steady), Greens 13% (up two) and One Nation 15% (steady). Anthony Albanese is up one on approval to 47% and down four on disapproval to 47%, while Sussan Ley is up one to 26% and down three to 55%. Albanese’s lead on preferred prime minister is unchanged at 54-27. Also included is a question on preferred Liberal leader, which has Sussan Ley at 21%, Andrew Hastie at 15%, Angus Taylor at 9%, Tim Wilson at 6% and Ted O’Brien 3%, the balance being “don’t know”. Among Coalition voters, the respective numbers are 28%, 20%, 12%, 7% and 2%. The poll was conducted Monday to Thursday from a sample of 1245.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. 5 reasons why Ukraine will keep fighting even if Trump walks

    If the U.S. administration pulls American arms, fighting on would be difficult but not impossible for Ukraine.

    U.S. President Donald Trump shocked European capitals last week with an extraordinary ultimatum to Kyiv: Accept Washington’s surprise draft plan to end the war in Ukraine or risk losing American weapons and intelligence.

    That plan has since been amended with Ukrainian and European input to be less overtly pro-Russian, but the threat still hangs over Kyiv.

    That raises two questions: whether Europe has the capacity to smoothly step in and replace the weapons provided by the U.S., and whether Ukraine can continue fighting without U.S. arms. Short answers: No and yes.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/5-reasons-why-ukraine-will-keep-fighting-even-if-donald-trump-walks/

  2. pp
    My mistake. I missed that paragraph, hidden under the adds. It states:

    “The Australian Financial Review reported this month that AGL Energy was making about 300 workers redundant as the company prepares to reskill staff for a switch to renewable energy sources.”

    Which kind of refutes your point, anyway.

  3. Steve 777
    Even for Wikipaedia that is a crap article. Prime ministers from the last 20 years get numerous ephemeral entries while most 20c Pms are ignored
    Some that are missed but quickly come to mind:

    McMahon Tiberius on the telephone
    Fraser Kerr’s Curr
    Watson Labour’s Gentleman
    George Reid All Piss and Wind (from the same speech as Yes-No)

    More will come to me

  4. Turnbull having to deal with Trump V1 is in hindsight somewhat amusing. The new money toff who put on airs & graces millionaire meeting with a guy who also happens to be a millionaire, but is a garish, vulgar racist with a penchant for horrendous gold furniture. It must have killed him inside that his beloved neoliberal experiment in high capitalism resulted in Trump being the “leader of the free world”.

    Followed not long after by being booted out of the Prime Ministership by the bible bashing Morrison with only his millions of dollars and harbourside mansions to console him.

    “China is engaged in the biggest naval build up in world peace time history. Ever.”
    I would too, if I were China and getting enveloped by bases owned by a country run by Trump and Stephen Miller where half the nation place their racist blame on my country for all the woes inflicted upon it’s people by capitalists who willingly worked with the businesses in my nation without coercion.

  5. Fancy having a dypso as the founding father, even worse, a founding associate justice of the HC of A, though it is said that he was a competent judge. He lived to 70, when his heart, not his liver, gave out.

  6. While the Europeans and various factions in the US administation bicker and negotiate among themselves, the Russians continue to creep forward along the contact line. If this so-called “peace plan”—now watered down by the Europeans and the neo-con faction in Washington—is presented to the Russians, they will simply reject it. And the war of attrition will continue, mainly to the detriment of Ukraine.

  7. Mavis
    – but where did he die?
    I have been at the spot and the people there knew that he had “passed” but didn’t want “to make a thing of it”.

  8. Overall we have a shortage of people not jobs at present. If workers are not needed in a fossil fuel industry job, the solution is to assist them retrain for something else, not prop up jobs that are essentially useless.

  9. The Nobel Peace Prize is decided by a committee of 5 Norwegians:
    Anne Enger, former Leader of the Centre Party and Minister of Culture.
    Asle Toje, foreign policy scholar.
    Kristin Clemet, former Conservative Party cabinet member who previously represented Oslo in Norwegian Parliament.
    Jørgen Watne Frydnes, businessman and nonprofit leader.
    Gry Larsen, former Foreign Affairs Secretary of Norway.

    So 3 women and 2 men. The range from conservative to quite liberal. Human rights including press freedom has been a major issue for some of them.

  10. Err Australia has over 700,000 unemployed and then there is the underemployed.

    Btw Labor luvvies bagging ice in USA for months so how about the labor state gov in Victoria for the next six months they are searching people with no warrant.

  11. S. Simpson says:
    Wednesday, November 26, 2025 at 9:00 pm
    While the Europeans and various factions in the US administation bicker and negotiate among themselves, the Russians continue to creep forward along the contact line. If this so-called “peace plan”—now watered down by the Europeans and the neo-con faction in Washington—is presented to the Russians, they will simply reject it. And the war of attrition will continue, mainly to the detriment of Ukraine.
    ________________________________________________-

    Of course, you are in a better position to understand the interests of Ukrainians than Ukrainians themselves.

  12. Ben Chifley was known as Chif.
    My father used to tell a bad joke. Menzies was having a bit of a breathing episode and someone said “What’s up Bob?”
    Menzies allegedly replied: “Chifley winned.”
    Must have been 1946.

  13. Victoria conceding that the new election laws unconstitutional to the extent they grandfathered in the major parties’ existing nominated fundraising vehicles but didn’t let new entrants establish their own. Seems right, it was always clearly advantaging the majors over new entrants. I’m not sure what they expected.

    This would all be resolved if people would get over their knee jerk hatreds of politicians and just allowed a public funding mechanism for election campaigns in exchange for banning political donations or banning donations above some minor amount like $5 or whatever (not including membership fees for actual party members).

    The government was right to seek to knock out the problem of huge political donations buying or giving the appearance of buying influence. And they’re right that elections still need to be funded. So hopefully the outcome of these challenges isn’t just back to open slather shit.

  14. Kevin Bonham@kevinbonham
    #Essential raw primaries not on same scale as other pollsters ALP 36 L-NP 27 Green 11 ON 15 TOP 1 IND/other 6 undecided 6
    Their “2PP+” by mostly respondent prefs 50-44 to ALP (=53.2, no change)
    My last-election estimate 55.6 to ALP (also no change)

  15. Stanley Bruce “spats”

    He didn’t initially wear spats but thought they were a good idea after seeing that David Low always drew him so attired.
    They kept the horse shit off his cuffs when he was walking around Melbourne

  16. I just caught up on the thing with Witkoff literally coaching Putin’s guy on how Putin should suck up to Trump to get his way about the Ukraine “deal”.

    Once upon a time that wouldn’t just be a firing offence, that’s fucking treason.

    But in Trumpworld being a Russian agent isn’t treason it’s just Wednesday, I guess.

  17. Aqualung and Upnorth from a couple of days ago. We are fine having survived what can only be described as a mini tornado. Power and communication restored tonight. Much clean up yet to happen.
    Lucky we had our camping equipment to help us through the after effects.

  18. @Bizzcan –
    “– This is all coloured though by the fact that the current incumbent president is the young-gun socialist who was supposed to fix everything in the first place; except he destroyed his presidency through running a constitutional referendum process so disastrous it makes the Australian Voice campaign look like a raging success by comparison.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Chilean_constitutional_referendum#Results

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Chilean_constitutional_referendum#Results

    Fascinating. I had heard nothing about any of this.

    Looking at the opinion polling for the 2022 outing, it looks very very similar to the Voice where early favourable polling might have wrong-footed the guy when serious opposition began and the numbers drop like a rock and don’t recover?

    And then his left wing constitution being rejected, he had to let the right wing have a go at their attempt at a new constitution being similarly rejected in 2023, which must be a fairly fun thing to have dominating politics for a year of a socialist President’s term.

    What do we learn from this kids?

    Anyone suggesting a referendum in this century should be sent away without further ado the moment they even start to say the word referendum. Referendums are embuggerated.

  19. From the ABC

    A City of Joondalup councillor who tried to claim a beer he bought at a strip club on work expenses has resigned from the council, citing “personal reasons”. 

    Nige Jones was found to have breached conduct standards for claiming the drink expense at an Adelaide strip club on a city-funded trip in August.
    On Wednesday, he resigned as the city’s North Central Ward representative, but it would not take effect until February next year.

    Mr Jones lodged an expense claim for a beer he bought at the Crazy Horse Revue in Adelaide’s CBD, which describes itself as “Australia’s most iconic gentlemen’s club for over 40 years”.

  20. davidwh says:
    Wednesday, November 26, 2025 at 9:36 pm
    Aqualung and Upnorth from a couple of days ago. We are fine having survived what can only be described as a mini tornado. Power and communication restored tonight. Much clean up yet to happen.
    Lucky we had our camping equipment to help us through the after effects.
    中华人民共和国
    Hi David

    Good to hear from you mate. Glad your ok and that things getting back to normal. My mate on Bribie is Overseas ATM and knows his electricity only came back on today because the security cameras came back on.

    His meat in the Freezer will be used for Crab Bait when he gets home!

    On other matters trust your health is ok cobber. All the very best.

  21. davidwh @ #1224 Wednesday, November 26th, 2025 – 9:36 pm

    Aqualung and Upnorth from a couple of days ago. We are fine having survived what can only be described as a mini tornado. Power and communication restored tonight. Much clean up yet to happen.
    Lucky we had our camping equipment to help us through the after effects.

    Good to hear David. Something similar but on a smaller scale hit Doonside today. I got lucky being on the right side of the tracks so to speak.
    The other side got hammered but nothing like Bribie.
    Blacked out. Sitting in the dark waiting for power. Thankfully I charged my power bank. Or I could sit in the car with the engine running 🙂

  22. Upnorth

    It’s one thing to go there on a councillors trip and quite another to actually claim to get the cost of your beer back.

    I’m surprised they give out receipts. I can’t remember getting a receipt for a beer anywhere in Australia.

  23. davidwh says:
    Wednesday, November 26, 2025 at 10:01 pm
    Upnorth recently completed radiation treatment for prostate cancer still in some recovery. Prognosis very good.
    中华人民共和国
    Good luck mate. That Wally Lewis XXXX will get you through. Please post when you are up to it. Just a Gday so we know how you are going. You are a Good Stick

  24. Diogenes says:
    Wednesday, November 26, 2025 at 10:04 pm
    Upnorth

    It’s one thing to go there on a councillors trip and quite another to actually claim to get the cost of your beer back.

    I’m surprised they give out receipts. I can’t remember getting a receipt for a beer anywhere in Australia.
    中华人民共和国
    Tight arse he deserves it. And in the City of Churches! I’m shocked.

  25. Oakeshott Country:

    Wednesday, November 26, 2025 at 9:06 pm

    [‘Mavis
    – but where did he die?
    I have been at the spot and the people there knew that he had “passed” but didn’t want “to make a thing of it”.’]

    It wasn’t on the loo, was it? When I was a youngster, our next-door neighbour died in his outside dunny. He was a big man and fell against the door. They had to dismantle it to get to him. The delay
    negated any hope of resuscitating him.

  26. Good to hear about the cancer Davidwh.
    Due for my next PSA test next year. I’m always tense when I go in for the results.
    Getting reports the power may not come on until tomorrow night. Ahhhh!!!
    Oh well. All the good shows like Home and Away have finished for the year. 😉

  27. That big wind experienced by Davidwh was probably an actual tornado. We do get them here. It might have been a microburst – a mass of cold air plops out of a storm cloud and races radially from where it hit the ground. Be all that as it may, glad to hear that David is OK.

  28. [‘A former member of NSW Labor HQ has alleged Chris Minns asked how to bank thousands of dollars of undeclared cash donations received at a campaign fundraiser in 2014, an explosive affidavit given to a parliamentary committee has detailed.

    But the Premier has emphatically denied the conversation took place, or any wrongdoing, revealing the allegations had been probed by the NSW Electoral Commission, as well as the corruption watchdog, accusing committee members of maliciously “drip feeding” information for “political attacks”. The Independent Commission Against Corruption did not call Minns as a witness or take action against him, and the NSW Electoral Commission investigated the allegations.

    Signed by David Latham, who was president of NSW Young Labor and ALP state organiser between 2013 and 2016, the nine-page affidavit was submitted to a committee considering the electoral donation reporting in Minns’ seat of Kogarah ahead of the 2015 election.

    The affidavit resurfaces the finding that straw donors were used to hide the “true identity” of prohibited donors to NSW Labor. Public hearings in 2019 heard Minns received around $10,000 in fake donations, but the matter wasn’t pursued by the corruption watchdog.

    In the sworn document obtained by the Herald, Latham alleged he received a call from Minns “after this fundraising event in late 2014” held at the Sunny Seafood Restaurant in Hurstville on September 12, 2014.

    Minns said on Wednesday he never had that conversation with Latham. “The alleged conversation never took place,” a spokesperson for the Premier said.’] – SMH

  29. Arky says:
    Wednesday, November 26, 2025 at 10:38 pm

    Good news.

    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/australia-records-biggest-annual-drop-in-emissions-outside-pandemic-20251126-p5niok.html

    Surely certain people have been celebrating this news and posting it all day, right?

    _______________________________________

    its because the data hasn’t dropped publicly yet – so it must be a very hot drop.

    Here is the March data that was released in August

    https://www.dcceew.gov.au/climate-change/publications/national-greenhouse-gas-inventory-quarterly-update-march-2025

    And here is what you get when subbing in “June” into the URL

    https://www.dcceew.gov.au/climate-change/publications/national-greenhouse-gas-inventory-quarterly-update-june-2025

  30. Upnorth: “The City of Churches” should be retired as a description of Adelaide. Most small churches have been repurposed into more useful things like restaurants. The large ones are picturesque anachronisms, and the rest are 90% empty.

  31. Leaked recordings show Witkoff coached Kremlin advisers on how to approach Trump over Ukraine — Bloomberg

    U.S. presidential envoy Steve Witkoff suggested to Russian presidential aide Yuri Ushakov in October that Washington and Moscow work together on a peace agreement to end the war in Ukraine, according to Bloomberg. On November 25, the outlet published a detailed report based on a transcript of a phone call between Witkoff and Ushakov held on October 14 — and later released the full transcript. The outlet did not say how it obtained the recording.

    During the conversation, which reportedly lasted just over five minutes, Witkoff laid out suggestions for Ushakov on how Russian President Vladimir Putin might approach the subject with U.S. President Donald Trump. Witkoff also told Ushakov that he has “the deepest respect” for Putin. He said he had told Trump that he believes Russia has always sought a peace agreement. Witkoff also said he understands a peace deal would require “Donetsk and maybe a land swap somewhere.”

    At one point, Ushakov asked Witkoff whether it would be “useful” for Trump and Putin to speak by phone. Witkoff answered in the affirmative and offered several suggestions for how to start the conversation — including that Putin congratulate Trump on the Gaza peace deal, note that Russia supported it, and emphasize that he respects the U.S. president as a “man of peace.” Witkoff also noted that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky would soon be visiting the White House and suggested that Putin speak with Trump before that meeting.

    Ushakov appears to have acted on some of Witkoff’s advice. After speaking with Putin on October 16, Trump announced: “President Putin congratulated me and the United States on the Great Accomplishment of Peace in the Middle East.” Ushakov himself later told reporters that Putin “opened the conversation by congratulating Donald Trump on his success in helping stabilize the situation in Gaza.”

    After that call, Witkoff met in the United States with Russian Direct Investment Fund CEO Kirill Dmitriev. (Dmitriev confirmed that he spent three days in Miami starting on October 24.) On October 29, Dmitriev and Ushakov spoke by phone and discussed how forcefully Moscow should press its demands in a prospective peace deal, according to another recording reviewed by Bloomberg.

    In that conversation, Ushakov said Russia should demand “the maximum” and voiced concern that the United States might later “twist” what what agreed on and then declare a deal had been reached.

    Dmitriev replied that Russia could share the document informally with the United States and expressed confidence that even if the Trump administration did not accept Moscow’s version in full, it would produce something very close to it.

    Kirill Dmitriev dismissed Bloomberg’s publication of the recording of his call with Ushakov as a “fake.” Yuri Ushakov did not give a direct answer as to whether the transcript of his call with Witkoff was genuine. He said only that he had no idea how Bloomberg obtained the recordings. “Someone is leaking, someone is listening in — but it’s not us,” Ushakov said.

    https://meduza.io/en/news/2025/11/26/leaked-recordings-show-witkoff-coached-kremlin-advisers-on-how-to-approach-trump-over-ukraine-bloomberg

  32. The Albonator says:
    Wednesday, November 26, 2025 at 11:02 pm
    Upnorth: “The City of Churches” should be retired as a description of Adelaide. Most small churches have been repurposed into more useful things like restaurants. The large ones are picturesque anachronisms, and the rest are 90% empty.
    中华人民共和国
    This is true. Last time I was in Adelaide had a very good feed and plonk at a repurposed House of God. I don’t think Jesus would mind given his penchant for plonk. It wasn’t a last supper though. Have been many since.

  33. ‘This is truly insane’: Trump stuns with eye-popping multi-million-dollar purchase.

    Buried within a mountain of financial disclosures made public recently is a potentially multi-million-dollar purchase made by President Donald Trump between August and October, a purchase that has left some critics stunned by its lack of news coverage.

    “In a normal administration, this would be a huge scandal,” wrote journalist and political commentator Molly Jong-Fast in a social media post on Tuesday on X.

    The purchase was, according to a report Tuesday from The New York Times, for between $1 million and $5 million worth of corporate debt of the technology company Intel. The disclosure was published amid the Trump administration’s decision to secure a more than $11 billion stake in the company, making the U.S. government hold 10% of the company’s stock.

    “This is truly insane,” wrote journalist Ryan Grim in a social media post on X Tuesday, responding to the news.

    Intel is not the only company Trump has personally invested in. Last week, reporting showed that Trump had also purchased as much as $6 million in corporate bonds for the weapons manufacturer Boeing, a purchase made close to the company being awarded a $877 million contract from the Defense Department.

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2674341799/

    So much corruption!

  34. @c@t:
    “Private company sacks some employees as conditions change.

    Hold the front page! ”

    Yes. And the news never really ever runs “company employs hundreds of extra staff!”. Only ever the negative. One of the big problems with how newspapers work, and give a misleading view of the world, is all the things they don’t report the other side of the story on.

  35. Fastwheels @ #1248 Wednesday, November 26th, 2025 – 11:21 pm

    ‘This is truly insane’: Trump stuns with eye-popping multi-million-dollar purchase.

    Buried within a mountain of financial disclosures made public recently is a potentially multi-million-dollar purchase made by President Donald Trump between August and October, a purchase that has left some critics stunned by its lack of news coverage.

    “In a normal administration, this would be a huge scandal,” wrote journalist and political commentator Molly Jong-Fast in a social media post on Tuesday on X.

    The purchase was, according to a report Tuesday from The New York Times, for between $1 million and $5 million worth of corporate debt of the technology company Intel. The disclosure was published amid the Trump administration’s decision to secure a more than $11 billion stake in the company, making the U.S. government hold 10% of the company’s stock.

    “This is truly insane,” wrote journalist Ryan Grim in a social media post on X Tuesday, responding to the news.

    Intel is not the only company Trump has personally invested in. Last week, reporting showed that Trump had also purchased as much as $6 million in corporate bonds for the weapons manufacturer Boeing, a purchase made close to the company being awarded a $877 million contract from the Defense Department.

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2674341799/

    So much corruption!

    To think they were so uppity about President Jimmy Carter’s peanut farm 50 years ago. These days they’re like “Oh whatever, God-King-Emperor Presidentrump makes his own rules and we’re okay with that.”

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